We Fremen have a saying. "God created Arrakis to train the faithful". One cannot go against the word of God.

We Fremen have a saying.

"God created Arrakis to train the faithful". One cannot go against the word of God.

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >oh i almost forgot
    what did she mean by this?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      shit fricking ton of lore, oh where does the story take place?

      I'm sad David Lynch hated making this. He could make some kino epic sci-fi

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >I'm sad David Lynch hated making this.
        He didn't. He actually enjoyed filming the whole thing quite a lot and met lots of actors he harbors great respect for, and whom he worked with again and again over the years. Most notably Kyle MacLachlan, but also Everett McGill, Alicia Witt and Jürgen Prochnow, all of which had roles in Twin Peaks, as did José Ferrer's son.

        Nothing could be further from the truth than claiming that Lynch didn't genuinely enjoy working with those people, and with Frank Herbert, on-set, and love putting his vision to film.
        The bitterness and his unltimate disappointment, that came later, when the studio meddled and didn't let him have final cut.

        The reason Lynch was so deeply scarred by Dune was not that he didn't like it to begin with, but the exact opposite: That he liked it and wanted to carry it across the finishing line himself, but they forcefully yanked it out of his hands and turned it into something that wasn't his anymore.
        On the plus side, Lynch learnt a lot about studios and corporate culture through that experience, and that led to his future projects all being stronger (and more independent) for it.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I don't think they meddled, he was bankrupting them and refusing to deliver it without being paid more. So in the end Rafaella De Laurentis did it to get something out. It wasn't "yanked out of his hands" because he wasn't doing it anyway.

          Lynch might have found it scarring but then he's never worked on something with that kind of budget again either.

          It easy to take poor tortured artist Lynch's side but it wasn't his money he was burning and refusing to deliver anything with. If everyone acted like Lynch, no films would ever get made.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >I don't think they meddled
            They literally did.
            >he was bankrupting them and refusing to deliver it without being paid more.
            No. Most of his work was already done. Shooting had finished. It had nothing to do with the budget.
            What they didn't want was to let the film have the runtime it needed. And Lynch insisted. That's why they got rid of him and had DeLaurentis cut together a relatively short theatrical release.

            >he's never worked on something with that kind of budget again either.
            Twin Peaks: The Return was comparable.
            And most of the budget for Dune had already been spent by another director (Ridley Scott) before he joined the project. The real money sink for Dune was all the time it wasn't being made. Lynch was the first one to actually funnel that money into a finished product.

            >it wasn't his money he was burning
            Again, he wasn't "burning" any money. I don't know where you got that idea from.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    What bugs me is that it's canon (at least from Herbert's notes), that the sandworms are NOT in fact native to Arrakis and were introduced from elsewhere. From where they were imported from and by who is never explained.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I wasn't aware of this... that is indeed fricking moronic, given how perfectly adapted/specific they are to the environment. If they were just brought from another 'Arakis'-like planet, what is even the point in specifying it the canon at all.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        i think it's because the bizarre interaction on Arakis is due to them NOT supposed to be there. i dont think that's moronic at all, when anon mentioned that i thought to myself 'wow thats cool'

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          It would be 'cool' if it were explained properly. But it begs more questions than it answers which is why i say moronic.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I think there’s this autistic thing where it’s impossible to leave it be and let something unexplained pass by to just exist to add to the story
            Not every element needs some plausible background and technically sound reason for being in the story
            It explains why certain authors jump into these exhaustive backgrounds and minutiae of everything for some non realistic scenario and others just get on with it
            Cinemaphile prefers the former, because it is filled with mainly the autistic and personalities that sperg
            Every cool movie is ruined by discussion here
            The only reason it’s safe to browse for a non moron, is because all new movies and shows talked about suck shit

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Given time, sandworms and their sandtrout larvae are shown to terraform any planet they're introduced to by leeching all the water and turning it into a desert. We see this in Chapterhouse.

        That guy who did scientific field work for the emperor found that sand on Arrakis is rich in sea salt which implies that sometime in the past the planet was covered with huge oceans.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          see, this is fricking cool. how can anyone hate hearing stuff like this.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    What orangutan are they going to use to destroy this established beautiful character with?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Florence pughu

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        not even mad

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    This is such a fricking kino opening. So simple yet so effective

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Plans within plans

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    i could literally sit through 2 hours of virginia madsen just reading the script

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    ?t=13

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Could a chinless neurotic failure really have a chance with this hotty?

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    fricking imagine if David Lynch adapted Legend of Galactic Heros.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    both intros are fricking kino

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >H*rbert doesn't give any detail on what the Weirding Way that made Paul so valuable to the Fremen actually was
    >Just says it's essential for them beating the Harkonnens
    >Lynch realises it's probably some kind of heightened fighting sense or something
    >Doesn't want to have "kung-fu in the desert"
    >Opts for a way more embarassing thing where they shoot guns by shouting

    I'm personally glad Lynch turned down Jedi because he had a headache

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      why not, psychic
      seems to me like it was psychic

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe but iirc in Dune itself it's not explained what it actually is or does, it's just a maguffin than gets Paul in with the Fremen.

        If it was just Paul teaching them the Bene Jesserit methods then that would be fine

        I haven't read any of the other books so possibly its explained better there though

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Its the Bene Gesserit martial art based on "prana bindu" control of the body. Its the thing Jessica uses to immobilise Stilgar.

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >One cannot go against the word of God.
    Dennis Vileneuf: Hold my beer ...

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I’m reading Heretics of Dune right now. I can’t believe I’m on a fifth book about these god damn worms

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >reading past the fourth book
      You've done this to yourself.

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