Godzilla 2014 was okay. The family drama stuff was boring but the movie was well-directed and treated the subject matter believably.
Then with King of the Monsters we suddenly we had giant flying aircraft carriers, underwater civilizations, secret bases, and a dozen giant monsters trapped in prisons worldwide. WTF?
And don't even get me started on Godzilla vs. Kong. Legitimately one of the most retarded movies I've ever seen.
I read that Legendary Pictures was sold to the Chinese right after G14 came out. I'm just going to assume that that's what led to the 180 in terms of realism and tone.
tldr: Godzilla 2014 is a decent American Godzilla movie, the Monsterverse crap (K:SI and on) is soulless slop for international markets.
you're supposed to watch the toho films
Godzilla 2014 was shit. The monster scenes for brief moments had excellent scale and there were some nice visuals, but it hardly had any Godzilla and when you DID see him it was for little cocktease moments and never anything substantial. On top of that, they kill their best actor in the first 30 minutes and substitute him for the least charismatic cast member of the whole set.
Literally the movie would've been 10x better if they'd even just swapped Olsen and Taylor-Johnson. That's how much he drags the movie down.
The sequels are goofy and retarded, but are tonally and logically consistent with the likes of the Showa era of Toho films. They're a big budget Hollywood version of that and are both way more entertaining and more true to the spirit of their source than G14 was. It didn't even do "Serious Godzilla" right. It's just an empty movie that occasionally waxes poetic about "man small, nature big". I'll take the empty movies that at least feel like genuine Godzilla movies.
is right, but if you're going to go American, I'd put even the Roland Emmerich movie over this one.
>The sequels are goofy and retarded, but are tonally and logically consistent with the likes of the Showa era of Toho films.
No way. The Showa movies have the charm of low budget fantasies. The Monsterverse stuff is on the level of Marvel and the Fast and Furious movies: soulless, overblown CGIfests with respectable actors degrading themselves for money.
It's literally just a big budget version of the Showa film. While I agree that the low budget quality makes those movies superior and charming, especially in how hap-dash and creative they were being, there are valid reasons for a big budget Hollywood throwback to exist. And so far they've made them at least as smart story-wise.
>The Showa movies have the charm of low budget fantasies.
This is a image from a 1961 Godzilla movie. How is it a low budget film from 1961 look way more realistic than modern high budget CGI crap
>a low budget film from 1961
The budget for Mothra in 1961 was ¥200 million JPY which is equivalent to $7.7 million USD today.
This anon goes to a gourmet restaurant and complains that the portions are too small. Fucker has no self-control
I have, all of them,apart from the anime stuff and Shin.
>A Godzilla movie with barely any Godzilla is the best one.
Silly OP, the correct ranking is as follows.
King of the monsters>Kong Skull island>godzilla vs Kong>Godzilla
these people have never seen the original film.
i'd be surprised if a single person in this thread hasn't seen the original film
My trips beat your dubs and I've seen Gojira many times. It's much more thoughtful, entertaining and impressive than Godzilla 2014. It's actually one of my favourite films of all time. My favourite from Ishiro Honda as well, though I feel that Matango may be his masterpiece.
G14 is cringe.
Nice digits
But ofcourse I have seen it otherwise I wouldnt have had a huge smile on my face when they brought out the Oxygen Destroyer in King of the monsters. Which is a direct nod to the first. KOTM is packed with references and winks and nods to the past of Godzilla which is why its the best. Micheal Dougherty was a true fanboy making a film for fans of the franchise.
+ Mothra. And that automatically makes it best.
>these people have never seen the original film.
I did, but I was under the age of 10 and in a hospital when I watched it and can barely remember anything.
he's in Invasion of Astro Monster for literally 5 minutes and that movie rules
But that movie is also entertaining when Godzilla isn't on screen. Which could not be said at all of Gareth Edwards' movie.
Americans will never make a good Godzilla movie. Never.
just watch shin
Gojira II is KINO OF THE MONSTERS you fucking pleb
King of the monsters if by far the best for ghidorah and rodan scenes alone. Caring about the shity comedic bits outs you as a retard
Just give me Godzilla versus Mothra
But they made two movies like that and the first one is one of the best in the series.
G14 is almost unwatchable, and was only praised because it was better than G98 (a very low bar). KSI was also somewhat mediocre and carried by the big name cast members normies love like Hiddleston and Sam Jackson. I personally thought KOTM was very disjointed with way too many half-baked ideas and characters, but it was more entertaining than G14. GvK is the best monsterverse movie by far. It wasn't nearly as exposition-heavy as the others, and it kept the human cast small rather than bloating it with named throwaway characters. None of the heroic human cast were killed off in hamfisted ways either, so it didn't force any emotional downers onto the audience like the other movies. The big downer in GvK was Kong losing to Godzilla and momentarily "dying," as it should have been. GvK was a movie that knew what the audience wanted.
G2014 wants to be a serious movie and almost seems embarrassed by the monster fights. KOTM must have had budget issues or something because the special effects were worse and it was using the human characters as an excuse to cut down on the monster screentime despite obviously reveling in cheesy monster action. GvK was really the first one to use its budget properly and just have a shit ton of proper monster fight scenes with good CGI.
I always thought that G2014 felt like a canned disaster/milfag script that Godzilla was shoehorned into as an afterthought once Legendary acquired the rights to the character. KOTM felt like a rough draft that was made into a full movie without trimming any fat or receiving any feedback/constructive criticism from test audiences. GvK was the first one that I felt really recreated the spirit and feel of the golden age Japanese monster movies from the 60s and 70s.
KotM is what I as a child dreamed what godzilla could like one day when cgi was good. I agree with you on everything
He is king, therefore his entire existence is oppressing those around him. Really though he's such a unapologetic terrorizer with such a naturally strong powers set that he's just refreshing to see a villain who can win with sheer force
This is the best way to watch the legendary films: https://drive.google.com/file/d/14YuVCpOl0XCXTfw09qId87zM6YYF_jFu/edit
Red pill me on King Ghidorah, who is he? Is it a god? Is it guarding a secret magical kingdom? Is he Godzilla's father? Is he from another planet? First time I saw him I was immediately fascinated by him. Look at him, he's got three heads and wings.
Giant golden dragon who flies through space and destroys planets for keks.
Sometimes he’s an alien, sometimes he’s three genetically-engineered Pokémon from the future that get mutated by the bomb that originally created Godzilla, and sometimes he’s a guardian spirit or something. He’s got a neat design, whatever he is.
Skull Island is decent, and can completely be taken as its own thing. In many ways, it’s a better Kong movie than Jackson’s version.
>tfw this franchise is awesome and King of The Monsters was a great flick
>tfw OP will never get to enjoy them like I do because they are a brain dead moron
A lot of retards overly focused on things like the gonnoreia joke or other comedic moments that came out of nowhere, it's like they seethe so much that they were blind to the ultra kino monster scenes like rodans intro and ghidorah blasting lightning into the sky.
Because forced MCU-tier humor like that ruins the tone of the whole movie and just leaves a bad taste in people's mouths. Cracking jokes about gonorrhea when the world is about to get destroyed by a giant monster makes no fucking sense. KOTM did have some good visuals, but there was so much of that movie that should have been left on the cutting room floor. You could probably delete 50% of the human cast from that movie and lose nothing as far as the plot goes.
That’s such a fucking normie take.
Anyone even halfway familiar with the franchise could see what they were going for here: the Showa series with a colossal budget.
After the super cereal original, Toho themselves were like “Wow, who would have thought that this movie about a cool looking giant invincible dinosaur that breaths radioactive lasers, fights the army, and smashes buildings would be popular with kids? Let’s start marketing this shit to them, and to nerds who are into cheesy scifi”
Yeah I agree the human segments were totally retarded but that doesn't negate that the monster scenes are the best we've ever seen. But I'm not too autistic too let bad comedy ruin top tier kaiju action. It's easier when you're a fan
I also thought KOTM was good until I saw GvK and realized that KOTM could have been so much better with even some minor tweaks.
Ghidorah>mecha godzilla
That and KotM having more monsters made it an easy pick for me.
>Showa MechaGodzilla > Showa Ghidorah
>Heisei Ghidorah/MechaGhidorah > MechaGodzilla II
>Kiryu > Monster X > GMK Ghidorah
unironically i enjoyed all 3 movies
i didn't expect to as i loathe 2010s culture
I treat them the same way that I treated the old Godzilla movies as a kid. I just skip to the monster bits any time I feel like rewatching them. Say what you will about the plot, but I personally couldn’t my give a fuck about the plot, and those movies probably have the best kaiju spectacle ever committed to film.
Don’t come at me with that Shin Godzilla shit either. The movie is literally him walking in a straight line, shooting some lasers, taking a weeks-long nap, and then getting frozen. That movie is great as a disaster film, but turns into a boring slog for the 30-40 minutes following the laser scene.
>I just skip to the monster bits
see
it's just the monster bits.
>Don’t come at me with that Shin Godzilla shit either.
>t. got filtered by the most Japanese movie ever made
sad. many such cases.
I would probably have considered it the greatest Godzilla film of all time if it weren’t for the boring bullshit stretch toward the end. It’s great when it’s about a bureaucratic government failing to contain a disaster that they’re in no way equipped to deal with, but then the laser scene happens, and the rest of the film is just Anno mad libbing the Operation Yashima plot from Evangelion, only with more origami and French people.
Agreed. KoTM was a cheesy Japanese monster flick in American clothing. Was it shit? Kinda. Was it awesome? Yeah. Just like most of the Toho ones.
Saw Godzilla 2014 while I was recovering from a concussion. I don’t remember enough of it to form an opinion other than “Hey, guess Hal from Malcolm in the Middle got that promotion.”
I am compelled to post this in every kaiju thread I see in case there is anyone left who has never experienced it.
https://archive.org/details/laketexarkanagamera
Enjoy.
i refuse to spam the catalog with my own thread so just friendly reminder that there are only 143 remaining until gojiraboi comes back to smack ass and smoke grass
>anon, you dont prefer a stinky monke to the genetically superior nuclear god tyrant lizard king do you?
kotm was hot dogshit and I havent watched anything since. the plot is so fucking retarded while also being so retardedly humancentric is baffling. Most notably the fucking underwater lab where the dumb animal behavioralist stares down Godzilla as if to communicate with the audience that he could somehow beat Godzilla in a fight. Absolutely ridiculous
Finally got around to shin godzilla. I think KotM is best of modern era but shin godzilla was just a great movie rather than a good kaiju flick
I liked Shin Godzilla, but Shin Ultraman and Shin Kamen Rider were unironically better. Shin Godzilla is pretty dull aside from the atomic breath scene which was certified kino.
It gets worse on repeat viewings.dh4rm
Reading another non-fiction Godzilla book and it reminded me about a possible generational gap in the fandom. The book has lots of useful information but like every other page is whining that the series got sequels and became light-hearted and that Godzilla changed from a villain. Shame because it could've been a perfect book.
I've never seen Godzilla as a villain, and even in the early movies he was only the antagonist by circumstance.
>Anyone even halfway familiar with the franchise could see what they were going for here: the Showa series with a colossal budget.
GvK achieved that.
>After the super cereal original, Toho themselves were like “Wow, who would have thought that this movie about a cool looking giant invincible dinosaur that breaths radioactive lasers, fights the army, and smashes buildings would be popular with kids? Let’s start marketing this shit to them, and to nerds who are into cheesy scifi”
Yeah I just love jokes about STDs in my kiddie movies.
>I've never seen Godzilla as a villain
Well as destructive force. Making Godzilla movies more light-hearted was Tanaka's idea (Tsuburaya also liked it) and that's what turned Godzilla into a franchise. Honda didn't like that. But hating on that is just so outdated. We have decades of history to compare and most fans see merit in both types of Godzilla movies.
People can disagree with the execution, but it's a good thing that so many Godzilla movies were made. Otherwise Godzilla would just be some generic 1950's movie monster that only turbonerds even know about.
Yeah and Honda's view was because it's he who was in the director's chair and had stories he wanted to tell. Tanaka was also in the right. He knew what Godzilla needed in 1964 and later in 1984.
Which of these is the best?
They all suck next to this one.
based
cringe
>Godzilla 2014
>incredible sound design and great artistic choice to never show the kaiju fully until half the film is over
>sadly "AMERICA" army bullshit focus ruins the film
>Kong
>Great setting, great atmosphere, interesting characters (minus Nasal Brie), but suffers from uninspired monsters/spiders and the skullcrawlers are kinda lame
>King of Monsters
>They blew their load on all Kaiju within 1 film, and ruined it with Stranger Things girl that cant act
>Godzilla vs Kong
>Actually entertaining until HOLLOW EARTH GUYS
Dead franchise.
Hollow Earth is kino because it came from Toho's scrapped "Bride of Godzilla" script that eventually got retooled into Rodan iirc.
Its idiotic. You have to pretend that gravity (one of the single most constant scientific concepts) somehow doesnt apply to the Godzilla universe.
>implying it ever did when the blue whale is the largest animal in the history of the planet
True. Newton was a bitch.
haha big lizard goes skreeeonk
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