>wasted
No he wasn't.
He's portrayal, while superb among all the other Hobbit cast, would be standard in a LotR movie.
Good performance, interesting character, not everything is revealed from him so he has some mistery, some agenda on his own..
It's not that Thranduil is "too good", everyone else on the Hobit movies is "too fricking trash"
They feel cheaply made and like filler material vs. the originality and substance of the LOTR trilogy. Especially the 3rd, which is abominable and based off of like 5 pages of book material. It should have been 2 movies max, and I honestly kind of liked the 2nd one.
Only an Amazon Shill or stubborn contrarian would think so, as obviously Bombadil was not a major visible influence throughout the story of the Lord of the Rings
Seeing as the entirety of the fundamental story is changed, the only truly major change was the omission of the Scouring of the Shire
Seeing as by then Evil was already defeated, I'm fine with that omission from an over three-hour film
2 years ago
Anonymous
>imagine getting filtered by the chapter "in the house of tom bombadil" >imagine tom has zero impact on the overarching mythos/ world building
yeah, i can tell you enjoyed the trilogy
2 years ago
Anonymous
name one meaningful thing that tom bombadil adds to the story, world and mythos
2 years ago
Anonymous
Filtered.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Concession accepted
2 years ago
Anonymous
11 hours 55 minutes is the runtime of the movies. How would you have fit Tom Bombadil into them? >imagine tom has zero impact on the overarching mythos/ world building
You're grasping at straws, as what I said >Bombadil was not a major visible influence throughout the story of the Lord of the Rings
Bombadil can simultaneously be a large factor in the mythals and mysterium and also not be a significant plot of the overall story.
As it were, it might have worked as Fellowship was the shortest of the films, and the sites of the Arnorians is interesting. However, opting to keep the primary tension on the pursual oft he Nazgul works in and of itself.
Lamentably, you appear to be bereft of cost-benefit analysis.
The whole "everyone that has anything bad to say about Hackson is a Amazon shill" angle needs to stop.
It's pure moron shit. Anyone that honestly has problems with Jackson's liberties is going to have the same issue with Amazon's garbage which is obviously taking it to new degrees of fan fiction.
The Amazon shills are copypastaing the same tripe so you're not in luck.
2 years ago
Anonymous
in the house of tom bombadil had all of the tension because it alluded to things far greater, it was the calm before the storm which only heightened the desperate escape from the ringwraiths it also embodies hope - i cant explain it well, english isnt my first language
people shit on tom bombadil and his chapters but there is a lot of meaning in them long before you read the silmarillion tom has already successfully given you an insight into the sadness and devastation of middle earth
2 years ago
Anonymous
Strangely enough I like the Barrow Wights scene seperately from Bombadil
Yes he was cool and filled a purpose, but it wasn't a moving piece on his own
The world was dangerous and shit was going on and he enhanced that, but he wasn't the sole movement of it
You said it yourself >heightened
The primary change from the books was the removal of the scouring of the Shire
The conflict is relatively low-intensity and the big-bad evil had already been defeated, and Jackson gave the returning Hobbits pretty moving scenes where the Shire hasn't changed, but they have, meant to be an illusion of soldiers returning from war and a hearkening to Tolkien as a veteran of the first World War.
Honestly, I just feel there's a lot of artificial shittery going on from the Amazon execs so that's why I can't take seriously >"THEY OMMITTED A SUBPLOT WHICH MEANS THEY SHIT ON THE BOOKS"
2 years ago
Anonymous
For me, Tom Bombadil and his Anna Liffey bride are one of the best parts of the book. However, with that being said I don't think Fellowship suffers as a movie due to their absence.
>some moronic irish guy dancing, singing and being a thinly veiled tolkien self insert and happens to be the strongest most powerful bestest character in the whole universe wasnt shown on screen
who gives a frick. he is pointless in the books and does literally nothing
he is the bridge between the humble shire world view of the reader into the vast and mysterious world of middle earth. tom literally connects the past with the present and hints at the future of middle earth, from the fallen kingdoms of arnor to the end of days
name one meaningful thing that tom bombadil adds to the story, world and mythos
mystery. he literally personifies the expansion of the world of middle earth.
i suggest both of you go back and actually READ the chapters of tom bombadil rather than skim through it
There's an excerpt in the Two Towers where Tolkien explains the craftsmanship of a door in Edoras: As it were, no one would want the camera to pan over the doors in the film and for there to be a narration of their craftsmanship and how this relates to greater Rohirric culture.
They're movies and there's no major changes to the overall plot to destroy the Ring nor any modern political messages.
Reminder: Spoony hates the LotR trilogy because they didn't include Bombadil. Also the main reason he hated the Hobbit trilogy. As if that was its biggest flaw.
The whole "everyone that has anything bad to say about Hackson is a Amazon shill" angle needs to stop.
It's pure moron shit. Anyone that honestly has problems with Jackson's liberties is going to have the same issue with Amazon's garbage which is obviously taking it to new degrees of fan fiction.
>Legolas, go to the North. Meet with the Dunedain. There is a young Ranger among them. His father, Arathorn, was a good man. His son may grow to be a great one. He is known in the wild as Strider. His true name…you must discover for yourself. 😉
Im honestly shocked that the Valar had the audacity to pull Tol Eressea so close to Numenor so long, given the general hotness of the population.
I mean, look at the hotness of the Sindar. Look at how frickable the king is. You cant tell me that genuine Aman natives werent the height of every human fantasy for time out of mind.
Pharazon was fricking stupid to try to steal immortality from the blessed lands. What he needed was more high-elven war brides for hybrid vigor.
>Pharazon was fricking stupid to try to steal immortality
he succeeded though and gained immortality, no one expected eru to intervene. he will redeem himself in the end of days
>great character >too moronic to take orders >too moronic to lead >dead marshes a monument to his catastrophic failure as a leader >gets btfo so bad in the last alliance that he runs away with his army in the height of war deserting his allies >great character
heh
He was absolutely nothing like book Thranduil and you can tell Jackson and whoever wrote the script was itching to film The Silmarillion, so they just turned him into Thingol.
in the books he just wanted food and my israeliteels
>wasted
No he wasn't.
He's portrayal, while superb among all the other Hobbit cast, would be standard in a LotR movie.
Good performance, interesting character, not everything is revealed from him so he has some mistery, some agenda on his own..
It's not that Thranduil is "too good", everyone else on the Hobit movies is "too fricking trash"
Just forget that these films exist and your life will be markedly improved.
my life is not affected by these movies
Why does everyone seethe over these movies while giving Hacksons earlier works a pass? He butchered the books. Is it just nostalgia goggles?
They feel cheaply made and like filler material vs. the originality and substance of the LOTR trilogy. Especially the 3rd, which is abominable and based off of like 5 pages of book material. It should have been 2 movies max, and I honestly kind of liked the 2nd one.
You can hate the trilogy for being rushed and not so faithful capeshit. But it still wasn't bad as standalone but the prequel sucked ass regardless.
>He butchered the books!
Imagine being a third worlder and getting pennies to make low-effort posts all day
you're right anon, i too enjoyed the portrayal of tom bombadil in hacksons trilogy
so we are in agreement then, hackson butchered the books?
Only an Amazon Shill or stubborn contrarian would think so, as obviously Bombadil was not a major visible influence throughout the story of the Lord of the Rings
Seeing as the entirety of the fundamental story is changed, the only truly major change was the omission of the Scouring of the Shire
Seeing as by then Evil was already defeated, I'm fine with that omission from an over three-hour film
>imagine getting filtered by the chapter "in the house of tom bombadil"
>imagine tom has zero impact on the overarching mythos/ world building
yeah, i can tell you enjoyed the trilogy
name one meaningful thing that tom bombadil adds to the story, world and mythos
Filtered.
Concession accepted
11 hours 55 minutes is the runtime of the movies. How would you have fit Tom Bombadil into them?
>imagine tom has zero impact on the overarching mythos/ world building
You're grasping at straws, as what I said
>Bombadil was not a major visible influence throughout the story of the Lord of the Rings
Bombadil can simultaneously be a large factor in the mythals and mysterium and also not be a significant plot of the overall story.
As it were, it might have worked as Fellowship was the shortest of the films, and the sites of the Arnorians is interesting. However, opting to keep the primary tension on the pursual oft he Nazgul works in and of itself.
Lamentably, you appear to be bereft of cost-benefit analysis.
The Amazon shills are copypastaing the same tripe so you're not in luck.
in the house of tom bombadil had all of the tension because it alluded to things far greater, it was the calm before the storm which only heightened the desperate escape from the ringwraiths it also embodies hope - i cant explain it well, english isnt my first language
people shit on tom bombadil and his chapters but there is a lot of meaning in them long before you read the silmarillion tom has already successfully given you an insight into the sadness and devastation of middle earth
Strangely enough I like the Barrow Wights scene seperately from Bombadil
Yes he was cool and filled a purpose, but it wasn't a moving piece on his own
The world was dangerous and shit was going on and he enhanced that, but he wasn't the sole movement of it
You said it yourself
>heightened
The primary change from the books was the removal of the scouring of the Shire
The conflict is relatively low-intensity and the big-bad evil had already been defeated, and Jackson gave the returning Hobbits pretty moving scenes where the Shire hasn't changed, but they have, meant to be an illusion of soldiers returning from war and a hearkening to Tolkien as a veteran of the first World War.
Honestly, I just feel there's a lot of artificial shittery going on from the Amazon execs so that's why I can't take seriously >"THEY OMMITTED A SUBPLOT WHICH MEANS THEY SHIT ON THE BOOKS"
For me, Tom Bombadil and his Anna Liffey bride are one of the best parts of the book. However, with that being said I don't think Fellowship suffers as a movie due to their absence.
>some moronic irish guy dancing, singing and being a thinly veiled tolkien self insert and happens to be the strongest most powerful bestest character in the whole universe wasnt shown on screen
who gives a frick. he is pointless in the books and does literally nothing
he is the bridge between the humble shire world view of the reader into the vast and mysterious world of middle earth. tom literally connects the past with the present and hints at the future of middle earth, from the fallen kingdoms of arnor to the end of days
mystery. he literally personifies the expansion of the world of middle earth.
i suggest both of you go back and actually READ the chapters of tom bombadil rather than skim through it
There's an excerpt in the Two Towers where Tolkien explains the craftsmanship of a door in Edoras: As it were, no one would want the camera to pan over the doors in the film and for there to be a narration of their craftsmanship and how this relates to greater Rohirric culture.
They're movies and there's no major changes to the overall plot to destroy the Ring nor any modern political messages.
Reminder: Spoony hates the LotR trilogy because they didn't include Bombadil. Also the main reason he hated the Hobbit trilogy. As if that was its biggest flaw.
if thats what you took from those chapters than you really have been filtered
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So basically "Doomwiener said it".
The whole "everyone that has anything bad to say about Hackson is a Amazon shill" angle needs to stop.
It's pure moron shit. Anyone that honestly has problems with Jackson's liberties is going to have the same issue with Amazon's garbage which is obviously taking it to new degrees of fan fiction.
>Legolas, go to the North. Meet with the Dunedain. There is a young Ranger among them. His father, Arathorn, was a good man. His son may grow to be a great one. He is known in the wild as Strider. His true name…you must discover for yourself. 😉
Really glad Viggo refused to do a cameo appearance as Aragorn.
Aragorn would be 11 years old, so I don't think he could even if he wanted to
The age matter didn't stop Jackson & company from asking him anyway. They would probably try and rely on 2014-quality CGI to de-age him.
>His father, Arathorn
>His true name…you must discover for yourself
lol always gets me
north of the lonely mountain is the grey waste, wtf would aragorn being doing up there?
What is even the point of this line? Isn’t their first meeting at Rivendell?
Lee Pace as an actor is utterly wasted, has been for close to 20 yrs.
He is SO good.
Im honestly shocked that the Valar had the audacity to pull Tol Eressea so close to Numenor so long, given the general hotness of the population.
I mean, look at the hotness of the Sindar. Look at how frickable the king is. You cant tell me that genuine Aman natives werent the height of every human fantasy for time out of mind.
Pharazon was fricking stupid to try to steal immortality from the blessed lands. What he needed was more high-elven war brides for hybrid vigor.
>Pharazon was fricking stupid to try to steal immortality
he succeeded though and gained immortality, no one expected eru to intervene. he will redeem himself in the end of days
oooohh daddy!!
>scene that cemented the trilogy as irredeemable trash
Frick off moron. He literally sees himself with his wife's corpse.
DO NOT SPEAK TO ME OF SNEEDFIRE.
Would Lee Pace be a good Elric?
Yes
For me it's the Maple Edit.
>great character
>too moronic to take orders
>too moronic to lead
>dead marshes a monument to his catastrophic failure as a leader
>gets btfo so bad in the last alliance that he runs away with his army in the height of war deserting his allies
>great character
heh
He was absolutely nothing like book Thranduil and you can tell Jackson and whoever wrote the script was itching to film The Silmarillion, so they just turned him into Thingol.
I enjoyed the Hobbit movies a lot.
agree 100%
perfect casting as well as legolas' father.
*is unspeakably more handsome than you*
they should have casted him as a first age elf, he deserved better than a woodland roach
was theoden a good character?