You are severely autistic. Try to watch at least one episode of the show.
I fell asleep trying to watch it. It's so boring and basic.
t. Zoomer who couldn't make it through expositional character building in the first couple of episodes, let alone the first one to get any sort of payoff.
Go watch some TikToks you ritalin addled dopamine addicted homosexual.
its a good show but in retrospect it gets worse with every season. s4 is a significant step down and s5 has its moments and goes after israelite media but large parts of it are forgettable and flat out bad. s1, 2, and 3 are really good though. i have too much Black person fatigue to want to rewatch now
>people said this show was on par with Breaking Bad
Its better
Its the greatest show of all time
S4 is the best season
>my heckin little black childrenerino!
1-they dumped the main white character 2-they killed stringer. so they cut their two most interesting characters and replaced them with shit especially littlefinger sucks
>not only more interesting and nuanced than the wire but has a better critique on the police.
You want it to be one way, but it's the other way.
Bunk's defining character trait was doing the minimum amount of work, he was just unnaturally good at police work. He almost never gave a shit when it wasn't his turn.
Nah, his defining trait was being extremely by the book, whereas McNulty was just a loose canon and didn't care for the rules.
2 years ago
Anonymous
There is no scene as kino as this in the wire
2 years ago
Anonymous
Look at this fool.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The book says to do the bare minimum so that you can keep the stats up.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Or to use the terms of the trade, juke the stats.
not even that, the shit with the "ITS AN INELASTIC PRODUCT" and him trying to portray himself as a criminal mastermind when he couldn't even kill Omar.
The Shield more nuanced and interesting than The Wire? Are we on the same dimensional plane?
Don't get me wrong, The Shield is really good, but The Wire is on another level. The Shield is still kind of in fantasy land with half its plots. The Wire is firmly rooted in reality. The Wire is the kind of social realism that isn't trying to pander to every demographic (it literally couldn't be made today), something that is unbelievably rare. The Wire easily rates top 5 TV shows of all time.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>The Wire is the kind of social realism that isn't trying to pander to every demographic (it literally couldn't be made today)
It's still quite PC and pozzed >blacks are only violent dumb criminals because of the environment >gays and dykes are cool and prominently displayed >interracial relationships
The only thing missing is more strong black women characters and it could easily be made today.
How the frick could it not be released today? There's a season long arc where entire street blocks are turned into an open drug market. Simon recently came out with We Own This City, which is basically The Wire 2.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>We Own This City,
Is this good? I notice Marlo is in it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's a good mini series.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Freddy. Grey.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>It’s not as though The Wire shies away from depictions of police brutality, corruption, incompetence, and malice. But, to the extent that there are any heroes in the show — Howard “Bunny” Colvin, Cedric Daniels, and Lester Freamon come closest — they are police officers, and black police officers too. And, although we regularly see police mistreating the black people of Baltimore, the show refuses to offer up any kind of simple narrative to explain the problems besetting the city.
>The orthodox Leftist analysis of crime — that it is a consequence of structural factors including poverty, racism, and police overreach — is not rejected as such, but the show is far more concerned with the complexity of character and moral agency, with some of the most sympathetic figures (Bubbles and Dukie) suffering the most wretched misfortune, while outright villains (Mayor Royce and Major Valchek) enjoy power and affluence. In the world of The Wire, there is no clear relationship between virtue and circumstance — the two are constantly shifting.
>The Wire does have a political message, and a progressive one: decriminalise drugs, stamp out corruption, and focus police resources on the most powerful gangsters, rather than on petty criminals. But while this kind of moderate, reforming instinct might have been acceptable two decades ago, I fear that the progressives who set the cultural agenda would not now look kindly on a white man writing a show about (mostly) black people that tries to complicate their simple political narrative.
>Above all, I doubt very much that the redemption of a character like Pryzbylewski, the violent white police officer turned compassionate teacher and mentor to black teenagers, would be acceptable in the current climate. Redemption, complexity, nuance, moral humility — these are the values of a bygone era.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Redemption, complexity, nuance, moral humility — these are the values of a bygone era.
I hate social media so fricking much.
God I do. The internet has forsaken society.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The show is pretty much all nuance, all the time, which is why both dumb c**ts like yourself who sees everything as either 100% "pozzed or based" as well as wokist trannies hate it. It requires your brain to be turned on to watch it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>The show is pretty much all nuance, all the time
No it isn't, it's pozzed globohomosexual far-left propaganda. If you don't believe me just scroll through David Simon's fetid twitter account to see the mind of the person who created this trash show. There isn't room today for a show to accurately portray Black folk and other minorities as the violent criminals they are, and the sole problem of America in the 21st century.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>No it isn't, it's pozzed globohomosexual far-left propaganda
The irony of you morons not realizing you are spewing far-right neofascist propaganda.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The irony of you promoting nuance and then putting everyone with criticism into some stupid category.
A show that features explicit homosexual scenes is pozzed, simple as.
I don't even hate the show, I actually like it. But I see too many people describe it as very realistic, when it has a clear bias (like everything else, tbqh).
>sopranos >every episode is about a fat Italian nobody killing another skinny Italian nobody >reminder that mafioso culture never even came close to taking hold in America. Dogshit films like the godfather were produced by Italians just so they could NOT look like guinea wop wastes of immigrants. >being in an Italian crime gang is the cringe equivalent to being in the Patriot Front
that mafioso culture never even came close to taking hold in America. Dogshit films like the godfather were produced by Italians just so they could NOT look like guinea wop wastes of immigrants.
in an Italian crime gang is the cringe equivalent to being in the Patriot Front
so which other ethnic crime group did Trump have to pay off to get his projects allowed to proceed in the eighties? Triads? Zoe Pound?
...aaaaand they never do! The cucks who say The Wire isn't good just LEAVE THE THREAD when somebody asks one of them to name a better show. It's like magic! The question instantly repels them.
The Shield is easily the superior cop show that is not only more interesting and nuanced than the wire but has a better critique on the police.
Well, actually, The Shield fans always post this when The Wire is mentioned. I must applaud them for being the lone exception, by not being cucks and at least naming a show that they like. However it is not better than The Wire; they are mistaken.
>DAMN homie US homieS BE SECOND CLASS CITIZENS CUZ, DEY TREATING US LIKE WE SHIT ON A SHINGLE MOFUGGA, THEY DON’T CARE BOUT NO NAPPY HEADED HO GETTING KILLED THEY ONLY CARE ABOUT MS BECKY WHITEb***h GETTING KIDNAPPED SHIEEEEEEET, THE SYSTEM IS FRICKED FOR US BROTHAS YFM NEPHEW? >hey Bunk, I have an idea to make the system care about black people >STFU YOU CRAZY CRACKKKA ASS FOOL, WTF YOU SMOKING homie SHIEEET THIS SHIT CRAZY I WILL NOT STAND FOR GOING AGAINST THE SYSTEM THAT CRAZY AF FRFR
wtf was Bunk’s problem?
Bunk's defining character trait was doing the minimum amount of work, he was just unnaturally good at police work. He almost never gave a shit when it wasn't his turn.
Sorry that doesnt match with my records. Lets see here...
Top 5 OFFICIAL Baltimore Power Rankings
Lester Freamon > The Greek > Kenard > Bloodlusted Brother Mouzone > Clay Davis
he played the sucking balls in the office game at top notch. if you ever worked in any american office it doesn't matter how fricking hard you actually work but socialmaxxing
He did. It's the subtext of his dialogue with Rawls. >look how straight we are *wink*
Rawls is supposed to take it as a threat but also feel like maybe Jay doesn't know and he's just being paranoid. Or that Jay is making a very clear and obvious deal of silence as long as he's looked after.
All the banter clearly makes Rawls uncomfortable and Jay ignores it because he's playing a game.
BB is shit compared to The Wire
Wire gave me hope that this level of writing would be a new standard in television
it wasn't, every show is still garbage
it gets better and better as it goes, peaking in season 4. season 5 is shorter and more focused so not quite as great as the others but still wraps up in an excellent way, tying everything together.
the show is a masterpiece that will ruin most other media for you.
every season expands and build on the next in the most wonderful ways.
i just finished my 4th rewatch and it felt like i was watching most of it for the first time, like things were finally clicking into place. Every line matters, every second. Sheeeeeeeeet.
every time a kid died in this show u genuinely felt anger and cried especially when those kids were getting ready for school and those frickers were shooting and not even hitting each other and that kid got shot that really riled me up for real and omar oh omar 🙁
I'm watching the 1st season of The Wire and I just got done watching the episode where DeAngelo teaches the younger kids chess. I was blown away! I had to watch it a couple times to really pick up on it, but did you guys realize that when he was teaching them about the chess pieces, he was really referring to THEM being the pawns! What an amazing metaphor!
It was so deep and meaningful, I am amazed by the deep symbolism of this.
Do the later seasons continue on with masterful symbolism like this? This was truly the pinnacle of storytelling that I have ever seen on a television show, and I think I can confidently say The Wire is the best show ever made without even having seen the entire series.
Also the acting is amazing. Idris Elba and Dominic West do a great job with their Baltimore accents.
There's a lot to the scene here, but one of the more important takeaways is that it continues to build D as a paternal figure to them, and that all of them tried to break the rules of The Game and died because of it, all except Poot who just worked at a shitty shoes store.
It already has gotten good, you just don't realise it yet, by season 2 you'll start to realise you've been watching kino the entire time without realising it
It already has gotten good, you just don't realise it yet, by season 2 you'll start to realise you've been watching kino the entire time without realising it
unironically this. It can be a little hard to get into but it's just like reading the first couple of chapters of a long book. The first season is an excellent stand alone story that will feel decent when you finish it. But it is the foundation for the show and each season builds on one another. By the end everything is tied together and the first season is magnificent on rewatches seeing how it all ties together.
Honestly a really big pleb filter. You'll find a lot of bitter people here who hate this show because it takes an honest look at the justice system and its influence on gang crime, instead of just shoving "all cops are good/bad" propaganda down your throat. Not just rightoids, too, I've seen a lot of leftists on twitter accusing david simon of being a racist
That's true, but for the duration of the show Herc is fricking up in all sorts of ways, yet gets ranks because he obeys the chain of command, never asks the questions he doesn't need to and just minds his business. Compare him to Carver and that much is clear.
You won't re watch as much as sopranos
Wrong, both are immensely rewatchable and there's no need to pit them against one another.
also him getting chummy with Levy the Lawyer by the end
2 years ago
Anonymous
Because Levy saw that Herc was a moron, but a useful one.
2 years ago
Anonymous
his last name is Hauk, but his nickname is Herc, as in Hercules, because of his rough and violent nature.
its funny how my opinion of carver and herc flipped by shows end, and prezbo skyrocketed to mvp
2 years ago
Anonymous
Carver became one of my favorites by the end, Prezbo had a great redemption arc in s4, that's for sure, but Herc just became worse and by s5 was a total dirtbag.
Nah I think Sopranos has more replay value, the wire in the last 2 seasons is pretty depressing to rewatch also its not like Sopranos where you can just pick and watch a random episode
2 years ago
Anonymous
>its not like Sopranos where you can just pick and watch a random episode
Because the show adopts the structure of a novel and every episode ties into another and you can't pick and choose because you miss out on important bits and pieces of the story.
>Nah I think Sopranos has more replay value
Maybe for you that's true, and that's okay, but making general statements like these just because you prefer The Sopranos is misguided and a bit silly.
He was literally just playing both sides of the fence. but yeah if he was just patient with Randy for even a minute shit would have been much smoother.
One of the greatest scenes in this show for me is when McNulty just goes all in on D'Angelo's mother and tears her to pieces, exposing her hypocrisy and the way she sold her son just so she can have her wealth. Imagine if D' had the luck Namond's luck, he would be the one giving speeches and would surely fight for justice. But in the end, he gets to be fricking hanged in a prison as if he was trash. Pitiful.
Stringer orchestrated his murder because he was scared of D' flipping down the line, even though Brianna managed to convince him not to snitch, and ironically enough, gave him a death sentence.
Ye I know he got whacked since Stringer thought he was gonna flip since he pleaded ( i forgot if he did) also his time wasnt even that long for him to "flip", pretty moronic. Why do people not like S2, I Thought it was pretty good especially the contrast that the gangs in Baltimore weren't really tough shit/small fries compared to the Greek Mob ( or not since the Greek isn't even Greek) and all their cashflow is tied to the connect/drugs
Stringer was a paranoid b***h, and eventually pays for it.
>why did people not like s2 as much?
It's a bold departure and introduces an entire new cast of characters that take majority of the time, so it's not as strange that most didn't warm up to it at the beginning, but you're right, it's a phenomenal season and foreshadows quite a bit down the line.
>Stringer was a paranoid b***h
yeah he was, I also like how him being "semi smart" was enough to evade the cops but he still acted like a moron, goes to show policing is pretty ineffective
2 years ago
Anonymous
He thought being able to play small fish that are the corner rats and gang leaders is enough to swim with the sharks like Clay Davis, but he was proven wrong.
2 years ago
Anonymous
not even that, the shit with the "ITS AN INELASTIC PRODUCT" and him trying to portray himself as a criminal mastermind when he couldn't even kill Omar.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah I like that, he ends up being the definition of a midwit, way overestimates his own intelligence and how much sway his gangster rep actually has, and the scene where his lawyer finally clues him in to how badly he got played is brilliant "he rain made you"
2 years ago
Anonymous
>definition of a midwit
fricking ds annoying ho proved it
do better
2 years ago
Anonymous
Spot on. The scene where his lawyer laughs it up after he goes to consult with him is one of the funniest moments in the entire show.
>rewatching the wire last week >they are doing a raid in the black neighbourhood during season 1 >homie disrespects and punches old cop >all the other cops inmediately start beating the shit outta him >female black officer sees this and inmediately rushes in >i think she is gonna stop them, but actually joins in
can you imagine if they actually did on modern year
Funny enough one of my friends actually watched this exact scene with me and he immediately got perturbed by it, saying there was "no reason" to do what they did and it was considered police brutality. Is this what Reddit does to a person?
imagine you made a gritty crime drama focusing on hood Black person gangbangers but took out all the rape, 75% of the murder and drug use and increased the IQ of all the blacks by 30 points
Black gay superheroes
White cucks
you didn't watch the show frickin moron
shove it, israelite
You are severely autistic. Try to watch at least one episode of the show.
t. Zoomer who couldn't make it through expositional character building in the first couple of episodes, let alone the first one to get any sort of payoff.
Go watch some TikToks you ritalin addled dopamine addicted homosexual.
its a good show but in retrospect it gets worse with every season. s4 is a significant step down and s5 has its moments and goes after israelite media but large parts of it are forgettable and flat out bad. s1, 2, and 3 are really good though. i have too much Black person fatigue to want to rewatch now
imagine getting fatigued everytime you see a black person on tv. hilarious
Don't have to imagine
>on tv
>my heckin little black childrenerino!
1-they dumped the main white character 2-they killed stringer. so they cut their two most interesting characters and replaced them with shit especially littlefinger sucks
why would I need to imagine that
>people said this show was on par with Breaking Bad
Its better
Its the greatest show of all time
S4 is the best season
>Its the greatest show of all time
Name a better show. Sopranos and the bravoverse are the only other two shows that are solid contenders
>bravoverse
What show is that?
LOST
The Shield is easily the superior cop show that is not only more interesting and nuanced than the wire but has a better critique on the police.
>not only more interesting and nuanced than the wire but has a better critique on the police.
You want it to be one way, but it's the other way.
Nah, his defining trait was being extremely by the book, whereas McNulty was just a loose canon and didn't care for the rules.
There is no scene as kino as this in the wire
Look at this fool.
The book says to do the bare minimum so that you can keep the stats up.
Or to use the terms of the trade, juke the stats.
40?! AIN'T NOBODY GONNA GIVE A FRICK ABOUT 40!
I hope you're being ironic
The Shield more nuanced and interesting than The Wire? Are we on the same dimensional plane?
Don't get me wrong, The Shield is really good, but The Wire is on another level. The Shield is still kind of in fantasy land with half its plots. The Wire is firmly rooted in reality. The Wire is the kind of social realism that isn't trying to pander to every demographic (it literally couldn't be made today), something that is unbelievably rare. The Wire easily rates top 5 TV shows of all time.
>The Wire is the kind of social realism that isn't trying to pander to every demographic (it literally couldn't be made today)
It's still quite PC and pozzed
>blacks are only violent dumb criminals because of the environment
>gays and dykes are cool and prominently displayed
>interracial relationships
The only thing missing is more strong black women characters and it could easily be made today.
https://unherd.com/thepost/the-wire-could-never-be-made-today/
How the frick could it not be released today? There's a season long arc where entire street blocks are turned into an open drug market. Simon recently came out with We Own This City, which is basically The Wire 2.
>We Own This City,
Is this good? I notice Marlo is in it.
It's a good mini series.
Freddy. Grey.
>It’s not as though The Wire shies away from depictions of police brutality, corruption, incompetence, and malice. But, to the extent that there are any heroes in the show — Howard “Bunny” Colvin, Cedric Daniels, and Lester Freamon come closest — they are police officers, and black police officers too. And, although we regularly see police mistreating the black people of Baltimore, the show refuses to offer up any kind of simple narrative to explain the problems besetting the city.
>The orthodox Leftist analysis of crime — that it is a consequence of structural factors including poverty, racism, and police overreach — is not rejected as such, but the show is far more concerned with the complexity of character and moral agency, with some of the most sympathetic figures (Bubbles and Dukie) suffering the most wretched misfortune, while outright villains (Mayor Royce and Major Valchek) enjoy power and affluence. In the world of The Wire, there is no clear relationship between virtue and circumstance — the two are constantly shifting.
>The Wire does have a political message, and a progressive one: decriminalise drugs, stamp out corruption, and focus police resources on the most powerful gangsters, rather than on petty criminals. But while this kind of moderate, reforming instinct might have been acceptable two decades ago, I fear that the progressives who set the cultural agenda would not now look kindly on a white man writing a show about (mostly) black people that tries to complicate their simple political narrative.
>Above all, I doubt very much that the redemption of a character like Pryzbylewski, the violent white police officer turned compassionate teacher and mentor to black teenagers, would be acceptable in the current climate. Redemption, complexity, nuance, moral humility — these are the values of a bygone era.
>Redemption, complexity, nuance, moral humility — these are the values of a bygone era.
I hate social media so fricking much.
God I do. The internet has forsaken society.
The show is pretty much all nuance, all the time, which is why both dumb c**ts like yourself who sees everything as either 100% "pozzed or based" as well as wokist trannies hate it. It requires your brain to be turned on to watch it.
>The show is pretty much all nuance, all the time
No it isn't, it's pozzed globohomosexual far-left propaganda. If you don't believe me just scroll through David Simon's fetid twitter account to see the mind of the person who created this trash show. There isn't room today for a show to accurately portray Black folk and other minorities as the violent criminals they are, and the sole problem of America in the 21st century.
>No it isn't, it's pozzed globohomosexual far-left propaganda
The irony of you morons not realizing you are spewing far-right neofascist propaganda.
The irony of you promoting nuance and then putting everyone with criticism into some stupid category.
A show that features explicit homosexual scenes is pozzed, simple as.
I don't even hate the show, I actually like it. But I see too many people describe it as very realistic, when it has a clear bias (like everything else, tbqh).
>sopranos
>every episode is about a fat Italian nobody killing another skinny Italian nobody
>reminder that mafioso culture never even came close to taking hold in America. Dogshit films like the godfather were produced by Italians just so they could NOT look like guinea wop wastes of immigrants.
>being in an Italian crime gang is the cringe equivalent to being in the Patriot Front
>show made about just how minor and pathetic italian mob is
>t-the italian mob was never important they're only minor and pathetic!
Patriot front are feds
name a right leaning group or organization that is not either feds or controlled opposition
Atomwaffen
turned out to be feds too, try again
Patriot front are clearly feds, shit there's footage of cops helping them load up into their transport trucks after one of their "protests"
really? source
https://rumble.com/v1b5i0r-patriot-front-busted-working-with-law-enforcement.-credit-millennial-trucke.html
I don't really see this as evidence of anything, i can barely tell what they're doing. why would they do this at a busy intersection?
that mafioso culture never even came close to taking hold in America. Dogshit films like the godfather were produced by Italians just so they could NOT look like guinea wop wastes of immigrants.
in an Italian crime gang is the cringe equivalent to being in the Patriot Front
so which other ethnic crime group did Trump have to pay off to get his projects allowed to proceed in the eighties? Triads? Zoe Pound?
Mad Men, Sopranos, and the Wire are the only three in the top tier
...aaaaand they never do! The cucks who say The Wire isn't good just LEAVE THE THREAD when somebody asks one of them to name a better show. It's like magic! The question instantly repels them.
Well, actually, The Shield fans always post this when The Wire is mentioned. I must applaud them for being the lone exception, by not being cucks and at least naming a show that they like. However it is not better than The Wire; they are mistaken.
ROME S1
>DAMN homie US homieS BE SECOND CLASS CITIZENS CUZ, DEY TREATING US LIKE WE SHIT ON A SHINGLE MOFUGGA, THEY DON’T CARE BOUT NO NAPPY HEADED HO GETTING KILLED THEY ONLY CARE ABOUT MS BECKY WHITEb***h GETTING KIDNAPPED SHIEEEEEEET, THE SYSTEM IS FRICKED FOR US BROTHAS YFM NEPHEW?
>hey Bunk, I have an idea to make the system care about black people
>STFU YOU CRAZY CRACKKKA ASS FOOL, WTF YOU SMOKING homie SHIEEET THIS SHIT CRAZY I WILL NOT STAND FOR GOING AGAINST THE SYSTEM THAT CRAZY AF FRFR
wtf was Bunk’s problem?
>complaining about Bunk
>SHIEEEEEEEEET
Are you forgetting who Bunk is? Shieeeeeeeeeeee-iiiIT, off the hook again
Bunk says it at least once, frick you fake fan
being too based for his own good. Black person kept it real 100%
Except in that season. It makes no sense that Bunk was so angry about Mcnulty’s wacky scheme
Yeah, but in the situation I’m discussing he was randomly cringe
Bunk's defining character trait was doing the minimum amount of work, he was just unnaturally good at police work. He almost never gave a shit when it wasn't his turn.
I hate Black folk as much everyone else but Bunk was based.
GIT ON DA DAM PLANE
IM ONLY HUMAN
AFTER ALL
lmao that shit was stuck in my mind for months
now it's back in there
He's just an analyst he can't go to Yemen
just finished it last night. absolute kino. ignore anons itt who grew up in white picket neighbourhoods
A great show, falters a bit sometimes but overall it's very, very good.
I fell asleep trying to watch it. It's so boring and basic.
I tried watching this but couldn't get past the chess analogy scene. You people really overrate black media
It definitely has some cringe moments.
It's also not very realistic in some ways and it fails to show the randomly violent aspect of black youth.
Still worth watching, though.
>I thought I might legalize sneedposting
Great show, very slow at times but well worth sticking with
unironically the smartest man in the entire show
Sorry that doesnt match with my records. Lets see here...
Top 5 OFFICIAL Baltimore Power Rankings
Lester Freamon > The Greek > Kenard > Bloodlusted Brother Mouzone > Clay Davis
nah, he didn't report Ziggy killing Glekas to Daniels. that was a big frickup.
Rawls was
no, he was just the best as self preservation and knowing his place
he played the sucking balls in the office game at top notch. if you ever worked in any american office it doesn't matter how fricking hard you actually work but socialmaxxing
him gaslighting/baiting rawls with Hetero gay-banter and 5% threatening him with it is genius
did he know? i thought that one scene with Rawls at the bar was only for the audience to know
He did. It's the subtext of his dialogue with Rawls.
>look how straight we are *wink*
Rawls is supposed to take it as a threat but also feel like maybe Jay doesn't know and he's just being paranoid. Or that Jay is making a very clear and obvious deal of silence as long as he's looked after.
All the banter clearly makes Rawls uncomfortable and Jay ignores it because he's playing a game.
>Rawls sucks wiener
on rewatch i just find him annoying but it's mostly the writing
It’s shit. Watch the Sopranos instead.
Sopranos will always be #2 to The Wire
>people said this show was on par with Breaking Bad
name 3 people who said that
it far far better infact
well duh
>dude sees waitress
>orders from menu
>cut to waitress and dude having sex
>repeat
it gets tiring after a while
oddly, the main character is probably the worst on the show. maybe it's just the actor, but the curly haired white cop is the least interesting.
make sure to use subtitles so you can understand the Black folk.
this entire thread is an embarassment
BB is shit compared to The Wire
Wire gave me hope that this level of writing would be a new standard in television
it wasn't, every show is still garbage
it gets better and better as it goes, peaking in season 4. season 5 is shorter and more focused so not quite as great as the others but still wraps up in an excellent way, tying everything together.
the show is a masterpiece that will ruin most other media for you.
every season expands and build on the next in the most wonderful ways.
i just finished my 4th rewatch and it felt like i was watching most of it for the first time, like things were finally clicking into place. Every line matters, every second. Sheeeeeeeeet.
every time a kid died in this show u genuinely felt anger and cried especially when those kids were getting ready for school and those frickers were shooting and not even hitting each other and that kid got shot that really riled me up for real and omar oh omar 🙁
frick bodie and poot for that shit man, wallace, the stray bullet kid, etc
I'm watching the 1st season of The Wire and I just got done watching the episode where DeAngelo teaches the younger kids chess. I was blown away! I had to watch it a couple times to really pick up on it, but did you guys realize that when he was teaching them about the chess pieces, he was really referring to THEM being the pawns! What an amazing metaphor!
It was so deep and meaningful, I am amazed by the deep symbolism of this.
Do the later seasons continue on with masterful symbolism like this? This was truly the pinnacle of storytelling that I have ever seen on a television show, and I think I can confidently say The Wire is the best show ever made without even having seen the entire series.
Also the acting is amazing. Idris Elba and Dominic West do a great job with their Baltimore accents.
biting this bait again, but the point is they never take the lesson to heart and realize they are pawns and fricking die
There's a lot to the scene here, but one of the more important takeaways is that it continues to build D as a paternal figure to them, and that all of them tried to break the rules of The Game and died because of it, all except Poot who just worked at a shitty shoes store.
working at the PootLocker
Kino. Simply, kino.
About halfway through s1. When does it get good?
It already has gotten good, you just don't realise it yet, by season 2 you'll start to realise you've been watching kino the entire time without realising it
unironically this. It can be a little hard to get into but it's just like reading the first couple of chapters of a long book. The first season is an excellent stand alone story that will feel decent when you finish it. But it is the foundation for the show and each season builds on one another. By the end everything is tied together and the first season is magnificent on rewatches seeing how it all ties together.
Honestly a really big pleb filter. You'll find a lot of bitter people here who hate this show because it takes an honest look at the justice system and its influence on gang crime, instead of just shoving "all cops are good/bad" propaganda down your throat. Not just rightoids, too, I've seen a lot of leftists on twitter accusing david simon of being a racist
It's a fricking police procedural that has homosexualry inserted because IT'S HBO.
kino
comfy
engaging
rewatchable
GIVE IT 5 EPISODES it starts slow but it's really worthed
Anon, my office.
Now.
she hot
A israeli liberal journalists fantasy
The highest count of the n-word said in a tv series
Probably the only HBO show that doesn't start adding male nudity in the later seasons
The best session of cops and robbers.
>Herc literally ruined a dozen people's lives
What a guy. haha
WAS IT HERC OR HAUK I CANNOT TRUST THE SUBTITLES OR MY EARS
It's Herc.
>be a dumb motherfricker that obeys orders
>sore through ranks
he caught the mayor getting a blowie which catapulted him iirc
That's true, but for the duration of the show Herc is fricking up in all sorts of ways, yet gets ranks because he obeys the chain of command, never asks the questions he doesn't need to and just minds his business. Compare him to Carver and that much is clear.
Wrong, both are immensely rewatchable and there's no need to pit them against one another.
also him getting chummy with Levy the Lawyer by the end
Because Levy saw that Herc was a moron, but a useful one.
its funny how my opinion of carver and herc flipped by shows end, and prezbo skyrocketed to mvp
Carver became one of my favorites by the end, Prezbo had a great redemption arc in s4, that's for sure, but Herc just became worse and by s5 was a total dirtbag.
Nah I think Sopranos has more replay value, the wire in the last 2 seasons is pretty depressing to rewatch also its not like Sopranos where you can just pick and watch a random episode
>its not like Sopranos where you can just pick and watch a random episode
Because the show adopts the structure of a novel and every episode ties into another and you can't pick and choose because you miss out on important bits and pieces of the story.
>Nah I think Sopranos has more replay value
Maybe for you that's true, and that's okay, but making general statements like these just because you prefer The Sopranos is misguided and a bit silly.
I don't wanna be that anon but wire is good to watch twice
He was literally just playing both sides of the fence. but yeah if he was just patient with Randy for even a minute shit would have been much smoother.
and don't marlo post me about how i want it to be one way
But it's the other Wey.
his last name is Hauk, but his nickname is Herc, as in Hercules, because of his rough and violent nature.
You won't re watch as much as sopranos
Are you fricking serious? Clay Davis in C list? Prop Joe and Jay in B? Those three are all A list at least
they all annoyed me.
Sheeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiittttttt
almost like it was designed to.
new tier list, wdyt ?
>Omar S
>Clay A
No
you're just judging shardene based on her (admitadly sad) breasts.
she got out the game. who else managed that ?
>simon's shitty self insert in A
what the frick man, he's the most boring one dimensional character in the entire show
but he knew how to use the word evacuate in a sentence
Some of the characters you have lumped together in B are just atrocious and appalling.
because it is bait
>stringer in B
>fricking GUS above strang
I will kick you in the teeth
String was a b***h
he was still a fantastic character, did you grade them om likeability or something?
One of the greatest scenes in this show for me is when McNulty just goes all in on D'Angelo's mother and tears her to pieces, exposing her hypocrisy and the way she sold her son just so she can have her wealth. Imagine if D' had the luck Namond's luck, he would be the one giving speeches and would surely fight for justice. But in the end, he gets to be fricking hanged in a prison as if he was trash. Pitiful.
pretty sad D died since they thought he was gonna snitch even though he resolved to do the time, also it wasn't even that long.
Stringer orchestrated his murder because he was scared of D' flipping down the line, even though Brianna managed to convince him not to snitch, and ironically enough, gave him a death sentence.
Ye I know he got whacked since Stringer thought he was gonna flip since he pleaded ( i forgot if he did) also his time wasnt even that long for him to "flip", pretty moronic. Why do people not like S2, I Thought it was pretty good especially the contrast that the gangs in Baltimore weren't really tough shit/small fries compared to the Greek Mob ( or not since the Greek isn't even Greek) and all their cashflow is tied to the connect/drugs
Stringer was a paranoid b***h, and eventually pays for it.
>why did people not like s2 as much?
It's a bold departure and introduces an entire new cast of characters that take majority of the time, so it's not as strange that most didn't warm up to it at the beginning, but you're right, it's a phenomenal season and foreshadows quite a bit down the line.
>Stringer was a paranoid b***h
yeah he was, I also like how him being "semi smart" was enough to evade the cops but he still acted like a moron, goes to show policing is pretty ineffective
He thought being able to play small fish that are the corner rats and gang leaders is enough to swim with the sharks like Clay Davis, but he was proven wrong.
not even that, the shit with the "ITS AN INELASTIC PRODUCT" and him trying to portray himself as a criminal mastermind when he couldn't even kill Omar.
Yeah I like that, he ends up being the definition of a midwit, way overestimates his own intelligence and how much sway his gangster rep actually has, and the scene where his lawyer finally clues him in to how badly he got played is brilliant "he rain made you"
>definition of a midwit
fricking ds annoying ho proved it
do better
Spot on. The scene where his lawyer laughs it up after he goes to consult with him is one of the funniest moments in the entire show.
>he got them building permits and all that
anyone know if the podcast they kept advertising is worth a listen?
did you guys watch the new david simon show about baltimore?
Marlow plays a straight murder police and Jay is the commissioner.
poot is a cop too, i only watched episode 1 so far
and Dukie
it was boring shit
>never actually learns anything and keeps making his life worse
oh man he just like me
Mcnulty having his kids tail Stringer at the market, and in the car with him with Omar gave me full blown anxiety
PANDEMIC GOT THAT PANDEMIC
The Wire has now given me a hatred of all tier lists
mostly boring shit with some happenings
>what am in for, bros?
I couldn't say. I watched the first episode and couldn't continue.
>what am i in for?
just watch it and find out you fricking homosexual. anyone that asks "what am i in for" should be exterminated
Wirebros I HIGHLY recommend this. It's one of the only shows i've seen that comes close and it's comfy in many of the same ways.
The seasons are all up with eng subs on 1337x
Even though Audiard's last episodes were good, the last season was too much.
Really good overall and Darroussin was amusingly very convincing.
Black person kino.
It has the most annoying character I've ever seen, on par with AJ from the sopranos: Ziggy.
Filtered.
how is Ziggy not an annoying c**t?
>rewatching the wire last week
>they are doing a raid in the black neighbourhood during season 1
>homie disrespects and punches old cop
>all the other cops inmediately start beating the shit outta him
>female black officer sees this and inmediately rushes in
>i think she is gonna stop them, but actually joins in
can you imagine if they actually did on modern year
Funny enough one of my friends actually watched this exact scene with me and he immediately got perturbed by it, saying there was "no reason" to do what they did and it was considered police brutality. Is this what Reddit does to a person?
why is the wire so good, but we own this city so bad?
David sacrificed his self awareness to join the cabal
Maurice Levy would never be allowed today
Comfy show, even season 5.
imagine you made a gritty crime drama focusing on hood Black person gangbangers but took out all the rape, 75% of the murder and drug use and increased the IQ of all the blacks by 30 points
B O A R D W A L K
It's definitely better than breaking bad, but also isn't nearly as good as people say so it's on par with breaking bad in that regard