>"What are you talking about, the Rebels aren't a threat? They launched a full-scale assault against one of our secret planets yesterday, and got away with the plans for this very battlestation"
>"What are you talking about, the Rebels aren't a threat?
force choke goes brrr
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They did
It's why they needed to steal the physical plans
Why the fuck did this guy think it was a good idea to mock the religion of the Emperor's right-hand man to his face?
Because vaders position and rank in the empire was extremely vague. Palpatien couldn't just announce he was a sith and vader was his apprentice because most people couldn't tell the difference between sith and jedi and assumed both were dangerous.
Imagine you’re trying to have a productive meeting at work and some retard stands up and starts bleating about muh Christianity or muh bible. Wouldn’t you make fun of him?
Youre comparing real world religion to force which is real in star wars universe. Retard.
Not him but the force was relegated to mythos by this time because there’d been no Jedi for so long.
It’s more like some guy at a meeting talking about Zeus but when you make fun of him for it because you’re pretty sure the Greek pantheon isn’t real, you get struck by lightning.
Jedi Order was destroyed less than 20 years before the movie starts. Imagine there was governmental agency disbanded in 2003 that played major role in war on terror. Do you really think people today would not remember about it existance?
Prequels aren't canon zoomie :^)
Yes, I would. Shit gets memoryholed in a world where access to information should be limitless. In the Empire it would be even easier, depends on how good his media machine is.
That's the thing about the prequels I hated. They made the jedi so involved in the government of the galaxy and made up this whole chosen one and bringing balance to the force garbage.
20 years is a long ass time, especially when a lot of the galaxy is poor and isolated. That’s an entire new generation of adults plus a whole generation of children following them. If you were young when the empire took over and you didn’t live in Corscucant or something you probably didn’t know much about the Jedi or let alone the force, especially when there were only about 10k or so Jedi knights by episode III compared to billions of other people.
I know it’s from the baby sneed show but Mayfeld described it well when he and Din were driving through the village on that backwater jungle planet
>Empire, New Republic. It's all the same to these people. Invaders on their land is all we are.
They probably don’t give a shit or know anything about force users.
Now implying he wasn’t raised in some backwater shithole and has an education enough to become an imperial officer, he looks as if he were about 10 or so when the empire was established, so he probably got blasted with a bunch of anti-Jedi and anti-force propaganda during/after Order 66.
Also, since the “Sith” to most people were “those dark force guys from some war 1000 years ago”, nobody was too suspicious about the empire being a bunch of edgy force guys behind the scenes and instead just anti-jedi (i.e. intergalactic S.A.D.). Besides that as far as they knew the Empire was just a stricter Republic with a space nazi aesthetic rebranding.
So he probably didn’t know too much about the force and if he did he was probably conditioned to think it’s something to be mocked as a fairytale (discourages exploration of potential force-sensitive people and prevents possibility of Jedi resurfacing) before he sees that Vader can use the force and chokes him out.
you’re living in a world where an atheist at a business meeting will get up and start talking about how trans rights need to be incorporated into the marketing budget and nobody says anything
Fuck off. At least transexuality has a basis in reality.
maybe someday but the current procedures are a sham
Mri studies show that trans brains fucntion in atterns that are less similar to their prenatal sex and more like the sex they see themselves as
Yes, brain defects and illnesses lead to physiological reactions, what is your point?
It's based in objective reality is my point unlike religion
Is imagination objective reality? What about the world of forms?
by your argument it’s the exact same level of reality, ie, something happening inside a persons head. if a man in a wig is proof that transgenderism is objectively reveal a cathedral is the same for religion. or, if you’re saying that someone experiencing “being a woman” as a man is objectively real, so is a person experiencing the numinous or god, both are mental events.
Reality is whatever is outside your subjective experience, you absolute retards lol.religion is purely imaginary
You’re the retard because you can’t see how your own argument makes no sense
>MRI (invented by a christian btw) scans show brain waves corresponding to feminine states in men, proving transgenderism is a real phenomena
Not only does this NOT demonstrate what you’re saying at all, but simply that trannies exhibit scans trending away from the average male, it can also be used in almost exactly the same way to talk about religion. There have been tons of studies of what sections of the brain activate when religious people talk about God or whatever. If your evidence is literally just the fact that these mental states can be observed to be happening in the brain, that applies to both things.
You're the one equivocating you silly little bitch. These aren't temporary brain states like when religious people make god claims, I've already mentioned that. I'm not saying it quintessentially proves it, there's never certainty, but it's reliable evidence for transexuality and I don't have a reason that doesn't involve a bunch of subjective/cultural rationalization not to see it that way yet.
It would help if you cited your study instead of vaguely alluding to "brain states".
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8955456/
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41386-020-0666-3
There are more. These are just the easiest to find on Google. They all independently got to the same results.
>ask you to provide proof for the claim that transgender mental states are permanent and religious ones are temporary
>gives me a study saying transgender mental states are temporary and based on averages in the fucking abstract: continuous probabilistic (rather than a binary)
lmao
Now you're just lying. Show me where that's even remotely implied.
>We employed a recently developed multivariate classifier that yields a continuous probabilistic (rather than a binary) estimate for brains to be male or female. The brains of transgender women ranged between cisgender men and cisgender women (albeit still closer to cisgender men), and the differences to both cisgender men and to cisgender women were significant
it says trannies indeed think differently than males, but also differently from females and still closer to men
a safe conclusion to draw is that trannies are still males but fucked in the head, something I could have told you from the outset
I did, after the colon.
>continuous probabilistic
ie, an average and extrapolation based on that average
Again, it's not the same. It isn't measuring their belief for the thousandth fucking time. The subjects weren't told to think about being trans. It isn't even the same part of the brain that's involved in that. Their brain function, while being closer to their birth sex, does lean significantly towards the sex they associate with every time, meaning it's good evidence that transexuality is true. Why can't you get that?
>it’s not measuring their belief
I never stated this. I stated that all the scans show is abnormality deviating from the male norm. Which doesn’t demonstrate anything except mental illness. I’m sure someone who thinks they’re a wolf shows brain activity that skews away from a normal persons, it doesn’t give any credence to their ideas about themselves.
>AGAIN, this is NOT me arguing for the validity of religious beliefs based on this- i’m saying that all the scan can conclude is that these individuals do infact believe what they’re saying, or else deviate from normal brain function in some way. What this *DOESNT* demonstrate is that what they’re saying they are experiencing is actually real.
Yes, you implied it here you cunt. How many times do I have to tell you. It doesn't just skew away, it skews towards the direction of the opposite sex. That's what significant. If it only skewed away, I'd agree it wouldn't be evidence for transexualism. Go be a stupid pol fag somewhere else.
>Invades a Star Wars thread
>Starts a flame war about trannies
>Accuses others of politics
>sharing beliefs with /misc/
>it skewed toward
What you mean here is, it was unmistakably male with some slight deviation from the average. Have you ever heard of the placebo effect? Where people’s brain activity can replicate the effect of a drug they haven’t taken? Again, if a mentally ill person has a self concept, all a brain scan can do is demonstrate that their self concept genuinely exists inside their mind. You’re trying to say that trannies naturally “trend” toward female brain patterns, which isn’t what the study says. It says that trannies exhibit deviation away from the male average, which would make sense, given that this is what they think of themselves. That doesn’t mean they have to be constantly going “i’m a woman i’m a woman i’m a woman” during the scan either. I don’t have to summon up my assumptions and personality consciously in day to day thought, never mind my mental illnesses.
>What you mean here is, it was unmistakably male with some slight deviation from the average.
A significant deviation towards the matching sex
>Have you ever heard of the placebo effect? Where people’s brain activity can replicate the effect of a drug they haven’t taken?
Yes, different context different part of the brain. Show me a study where it was the case that someone was tricked into believing they weren't the right gender. Try harder yoy fucking clown
>Show me a study where it was the case that someone was tricked into believing they weren't the right gender
I dunno, maybe the massive increase in incidences of “transgenderism” since it became trendy? Weird how as soon as this shit gets popular suddenly a far greater number of people are born in the wrong body!
>deviation towards the matching sex
Which as i’ve shown means fuck all when you’re observing the opposite sex and emulating them?
You're intuition isn't reliable evidence. You should know that by now. What are you, 2? The study wasn't measuring the property of the brain associated with performance, rather the way it functions as a whole. Try again.
These are the results from the study you cited. Even in your own head you are overwhelmingly male. You are a brain damaged male. Cope.
Yes, I see that it leans towards female. Lol thanks for discrediting yourself even further.
Being female brained doesn't change the fact your body has a penis and chopping off your penis doesn't make you born with a vagina.
No one seriously claims that you small minded prick
First that's a lie, second, it's unhealthy to engage in bodily delusion.
This result should be a surprise to nobody because any of the imaginary female "gender" memes, regardless of liberal or traditional, have about as much in common with the actual female sex creatures that have plagued us since the dawn of creation as I do with a featherless chicken.
Dude, the graph literally does the opposite of what you just said. Are you retarded too? Did you even finish high-school?
>Dude, the graph literally does the opposite of what you just said. Are you retarded too? Did you even finish high-school?
Nice try but you will never learn to gaslight like a woman. Horizontally the grey box overlaps with the male grey box and doesnt overlap with the female grey box. trannies are not women.
You need glasses. The gray box is literally about one standard deviation below the average male.
Agreed (about the bodily delusions). Transexualism isn't a delusion. It's a condition that can be treated with surgery and hormones.
It's okay anon you'll soon join your brothers in hell when you realize your gash smells like shit and pus and also why do you need to take hormones, your brain is already female, I'm confused? ???
So? It is completely out of bounds of the female average. All this shows is that it's a deviant form of man, and has nothing in common with women.
It's a considerable shift towards female lol not hard to see unless you're delusional
>I use one measure to decide it is different from man, and then do NOT use the same measure to decide it is the same as a woman
>trust the science!
And of course you have an explanation for how everything except the absolute lowest masculine outliers also exist as an overlap with the cisgender male graph, while a substantial portion does not overlap with the cisgender female graph?
I understand perfectly what the graph shows. It's saying that whatever you're doing to gaslight yourself into thinking you're a woman isn't working too well since a brain image classifier consistently puts you on the male side of the spectrum. This makes sense because you are a man with a Y chromosome.
And let's not forget that they're just trying to emulate what they think women think like based on memetics while in actual physical reality women's thoughts probably sound something like a basket of hysterical snakes in the process of slowly drowning.
First off, I'm not a transwoman. Second, fix your vision. The gray box is definitely not at the same height as the male one. Here, let me help you. tell me what you see in this image.
Your lifespan.
>temporary brain states like with religion
What does this mean? Can you cite whatever study you’re using here? Aren’t all brain states temporary? Surely you mean an average over a period of time? And a religious experience might be a temporary mental state, but the mind of a devout person is obviously going to be utilising the centres of the brain corresponding to religion more frequently, so again, using the averages these scans use we arrive at the exact same “permanent” mental state you’re taking about. It’s sort of a bizarre point to make. Obviously everything a tranny experiences is happening in terms of subjective mental states that can’t be falsified but can in some way be observed- it’s the same for religious people. If every religious persons brain was utilising different centres you might have a point, but they don’t, so there’s the same degree of “objectivity” going on. You’re basically stating that because thoughts can be observed to be happening in some second hand way that makes the thoughts valid, but not for religion for some reason.
Lol you're still not fucking getting it. Yes, thoughts can be observed to be happening in a second hand way. Thats not what we're talking about here and I don't know what the fuck you mean by valid (sounds like a fag term to me),. It's the fact that it corresponds to reality, that it's based on and corraborates scientific principles, that makes it infinitely better than religion which relies only on testimony. Its because of this that we can make novel testable predictions with science, not religion. We're talking about truth claims in reality not truth claims opinions. Let me put it this way, what's more justified, a book that claims magical pineapples created the world because a bunch of people said they saw it in a dream and they all genuinely believe it, or a natural abbaration like any other we've observed before. Fucking hell you're an idiot.
>corresponds to reality
Okay, i’ll slow down since you’re clearly not getting this.
>man says he is actually a woman
>brain scan shows activity that is abnormal for the average male
This in your view means the claims of transgender people are valid
>man says he is religious
>brain scan shows activity that corresponds with that of other religious people
For some reason this means one subjective experience has basis in reality, and the other doesn’t. Your premise is contradictory and makes no sense whatsoever. Then in the second part of your post you make an entirely different argument
>the bible isn’t true but mental illness is
Yes, it is. And the claims of mentally ill people (like, “i’m actually a woman”) usually aren’t taken as objective fact, even though mental illness is an observable phenomena. Both religious belief and transgenderism can be observed in the exact same sort of way, it doesn’t mean the claims are literally true. For some reason in your case, however, being a tranny is an exception to this rule.
Again, wtf is valid??? Lol if someone reports a discrepancy in their gender that they describe as being closer to the opposite one, and it can be demonstrated outside of their subjective experience (i.e mri tests), then yes that's good evidence and they are justified.
For the last time. NO ONE IS FUCKING CLAIMING RELIGOUS PEOPLE ARENT RELIGIOUS or that they don't get pleasure from the idea of a God. It's their claim that God, a conscious immaterial entity, exists in reality that's unjustified. Get that through your skull you imbecil.
Valid means… true? Like accurate?
>For the last time. NO ONE IS FUCKING CLAIMING RELIGOUS PEOPLE ARENT RELIGIOUS
First off, calm down. Secondly, I never said this. I said that the exact same metric you are using to demonstrate the “truth” of tranny claims can be applied to religious people. I know this is hard for you to get your head around but try
>man says they’re actually a woman
>brain scans show deviation from norm
Now, if that person claimed to be a dragon, and the brain scans deviated from the norm, would that make them a dragon trapped in a human body? No? Then your evidence doesn’t demonstrate your claims at all. It just demonstrates mental illness or abnormality. In the exact same manner that someone who is religious can have that experience observed using a brain scan- this doesn’t provide objective proof of their beliefs, just that they do exist in that persons head. The exact same criteria of evidence you’re using for trannies. Take a minute to cool off
You're either being bad faith or seriously stupid.
Yes, that's what you've been asserting all this time and you're equivocating again. The criteria for justfication isn't the same for God claims and claims like these. The mri results, if you actually take a look at them, arent unremarkable. They literally point and stretch to the same direction as the brain of the gender it associates with all the time. This very fact makes much more reliable than testimony evidence from religion. Fucking moron, what's so hard to understand???
You can keep calling me a moron but when you deliberately ignore my actual argument over and over again it comes across as projection. I’ll try again.
You say:
>man claims they’re a woman
>brain scans skewing away from the average give credence to this
It’s the exact same logic as
>man says he believes in God
>brain scans trending with other religious people give credence to this
AGAIN, this is NOT me arguing for the validity of religious beliefs based on this- i’m saying that all the scan can conclude is that these individuals do infact believe what they’re saying, or else deviate from normal brain function in some way. What this *DOESNT* demonstrate is that what they’re saying they are experiencing is actually real. Both standards of “evidence” are identical, yet you privilege one. You’ve yet to acknowledge this in any post, and just keep claiming that i’m trying to prove religious belief corresponds to objective reality. It’s the opposite. I’m saying brain scans don’t tell you shit about the validity of a belief except that the belief is occurring in that persons head
Dude, you're arguing with a troon. Stop trying to convince him with facts and logic, he's just going to resort to
>Name calling
>Using specific words that he gets to define in order to verbally trap you
>Deliberately ignoring/misinterpreting your argument so he can reply to a straw man
>Gaslighting you to think you're in the minority for believing objective reality about gender
It's worth an effort to keep idiots like him from astroturfing this shit, but at a certain point you just have to report for off-topic and stop giving (You)s.
Pro tip: calling your opponent imbecile, dumbass, idiot, etc. in every post (especially when making so many typos) you don't come off as correct or intelligent, you come off as a cornered animal lashing out. Also, we're not fooled here by israeli tricks; there's only two genders and you don't get to switch because "oh look I have a damaged brain, please zipper my tits".
you are genuinely dumb as fuck.
>trans shit is real because it shows up on brain scans
>religion isn’t real even though it shows up on brain scans
they’re both observation of thoughts happening in someone’s fucking head. neither one corresponds to anything outside of it
>corresponds to reality
It doesn’t though. Men with brain activity that skews away from the average isn’t proof that a woman exists in a man’s body.
You fucking retard, I said it was evidence not proof. Way better evidence than anything religion has to offer.
they’re synonyms in this instance, retard. you’re claiming troons are more valid than whatever else because of “evidence” which doesn’t correlate to what you’re saying whatsoever
No they're not lol. Proof has an element of certainty. Evidence doesn't
and you’ve got neither?
>Reality is whatever is outside your objective experience
>but trans people's condition exists only inside of their subjective experience
kek, retard contradicts himself in one sentence and doesn't even realize it.
It doesn't read the thread. Mri studies demonstrate it in reality
You're a fucking brainwashed idiotic retard that will fight against every observable fact and shred of rationality to conform to the popular narrative because you are a frightened, weak, NPC piece of shit. That's all there is to say about you, except kys.
Mri studies are part of reality dumbass
You really shouldn’t go around calling people dumb when you’re publicly losing an argument this badly. Nobody denies MRI scans are real. They’re saying the conclusions you’re drawing from them aren’t valid.
post the study demonstrating that MRI studies have proven that women can exist in male bodies
1mg pimozide taken daily completely eliminates the feeling of being stuck in the wrong body.
nobody could ever possibly become a woman who has lived their life with an entirely male brain chemistry. you’d have to replace your personality and basically die
What about personality is tied to gender? What does dying have to do with anything, you fucking retard?
>how does your entire physiology influence your brain function and personality
This was the guy calling christians loonies earlier kek. Every fucking time
What about gender requires your entire physiology to correspond to it?
You’re implying a causal relationship which is the inverse to what I am saying. I’m not saying that the nebulous concept of gender is a biological imperative, i’m saying men and women have fundamentally different physiology and brain chemistry. That influences their consciousness directly. Men and women’s personalities develop in distinct ways based on this. A person with a male brain can never subjectively experience being female, they have no analogue for what that would be like, they can only ever be a developed male mind injecting chemicals to induce “feminine” mental states. The underlying personality and subjective experience is always going to be tied to a male body and male brain chemistry through.
You're right that a man with a conventional make brain won't be a woman, but that's not what I claimed. Mri studies like I've mentioned is good evidence for this. They're not temporary states, they're wave patterns that correlate to certain sees. Sure a mtf brain isn't exactly the same as a woman but it's different enough not to be a man. I don't see what's so hard to understand
All this is saying is that trannies exhibit mental patterns that skew away from the average man’s. In the same way a mentally ill person would. It doesn’t make them not male and not experiencing male mental states
The properties of the brain is what's at the root of gender fundementally not some silly abstract immaterial thing like religious people claim about their God. Because of that, it will always be infinitely better supported.
I don’t know how you aren’t getting this. Nobody denies that sex exists. Your statement that MRI scans prove that one sex can exist mentally in the body of another sex isn’t factual at all. It’s based on an extrapolation of facts, in the same way religion is (something exists, something must have instigated the series of contingent things). If your evidence is that brain scans show activity corresponding to sexual identity, they also do the same for religion. So that’s not an argument.
>I’m not saying that the nebulous concept of gender is a biological imperative,
There is no such thing as gender. There is male and female sex. Gender is a term invented by a fraudulent, unethical bastard who should be considered history's most explicit example of scientific malpractice and violation of academic honesty.
All I know is that trannies should join the 41%
so true. why is a dogs brain different to a cats? they’re just different shaped beings at the end of the day.
HAHAHAHHA get a load of this fucking delusional homosexual
>At least transexuality has a basis in reality.
LMAO No
Reality is ostensibly the farthest thing from tRaNsExUaLs.
shalom
I would join him in praising Christ.
Probably should’ve used Islam or Hinduism as an example.
I’d politely yet firmly ask the Christcel to leave
If the Christian in question answered directly to the CEO and was known for having a short temper and being able to strangle people with his mind, I'd keep my fucking mouth shut.
Your analogy would be correct if the world was filled with literal physical demons and catholic priests went around exorcising them up until, like, 20 years ago
Imagine you have a productive meeting at work and Moses, one of your bosses, comes in after parting the red sea comes in talking about God being upset with your bullshit.
>tips fedora, my fellow redditors
Why the fuck would I? We're in a meeting, I'd just ask him to keep quiet.
grand admiral was in control of death star, most powerful weapon ever made and vader was subservient to him, so couldnt be that high ranking.
Vader was essentially a commissar in ANH. He deferred to Tarkin out of respect, but he was effectively outside the chain of command and free to fuck up anyone who looked at him funny if he felt like it.
Takin wasn't a grand admiral
vader was just some cringe clown that had to be tolerated
turned out he's emperor's fuckboy so he can get away with anything, even killing valuable high ranking personnel
This. He’s a glorified pity damaged goods nepohire.
Because the Emperor was not a Sith in the originally.
He browsed Reddit
He wasn't saying anything wrong. The "Force" is some Jedi hogwash, and the Jedi were a treacherous, fraudulent cult. That's the official line, and everyone has to adhere to it.
it’s sort of unfair really. the government he was serving officially supports his stance, yet the second in command punishes him for adhering to the party line
>the second in command
Don't be fooled, Vader is the one in charge due to the simple fact that he could slaughter everyone in the room with a mere thought and he is fully cognizant of that fact.
That's the party line, but they'd all know it was bullshit.
It would be like Soviets having to pretend Lysenko wasn't an utter retard, except in this case an actual geneticist is on staff to reinforce it.
Since when was the force a religion? It has more in common with a regular martial art than any religion.
This is the equivalent of saying my wushu kungfu is better than your wing chun kungfu
Since literally the first movie and this very scene which is the subject of this thread, in which the character in the OP calls it an "ancient religion". Wtf are you talking about?
>this is your brain on the extended universe.
This was before force users were turned into super heros.
one of the books said he felt safe in the presence of other high ranking imperials IIRC
It was probably more a show of bravado in front of the other high ranking commanders. Like he was signaling to them 'hey everyone it's okay to talk back to this douchba-ACK!'
Op hasn't played the pc games or even listened to the radio drama (and it shows)
>stupid ancient religion lmao
>yeah I used to pass by the jedi temple on my way to work, so what
Sounds like modern secularists when talking about Christianity.
Only if there were a thousand jesuses walking on water all over the place twenty years ago
thousand jesuses on a big planet of 7 BILLION people?
hardly anyone ever met any of them
A thousand Jesuses being recorded as very visible commanders in a massive war.
Sure that's something you could erode to the average pleb with propaganda, but a high ranking officer would absolutely be in the know about them not being frauds, since he'd potentially be one of the people who has to guard against water walking operations.
Add the fact that the Anti Jesus is standing in front of him, and even the most enthusiastic hat man would have to be retarded to tip at him.
I was making fun of one of the usual arguments
The equivalent scaled to Earth's population would be if in all the wars fought over the past 300 years, one person had used actual magic and no one is sure if he even really did anything magical.
Except Jedi were actually real.
so is Jesus
Wouldn't you think 35000 years is ancient?
A full scale assault that was completely routed by a modest garrison, and the Death Star. Their greatest effort to date has been a failure, outside of the vague possibility that they *might* find a weakness in this station, despite countless loyal engineers working to make it invincible for decades.
I rather think you overestimate their chances.
Only at he cost of scar riff and its entire garrison and staff and archival daTA
>disney triple reshoot movie with female instead of kyle
not canon
Except this was also taking place in the context of Rebel cells overthrowing the Imperial governments of Lothal, a key industrial planet where a Grand Admiral disappeared and was presumed dead, along with 4/5 of the Inquisitor Corps, and Mandalore. The Rebels were already taking key worlds across the galaxy when Rogue One happened, and high-ranking Imperial commanders were being killed off.
>Let me insult this 6'8 feet tall half machine death knight with mystical powers that could kill me in matter of seconds, what could go wrong.
Vader was right to use force in order to keep these retards in line.
keep it down, sandy
You can do that with a good blaster too. That was his point. The force is kind of shit from what he's seen of it. It can't conjure up the stolen data tapes or give you clairvoyance
>or give you clairvoyance
The Force can absolutely give you clairvoyance, but only when the plot says so. Otherwise it's "the dark side clouds everything lmao".
Imagine clairvoyance is like look at reflections of clouds in the sky from a still pool. Now imagine how difficult that might be if someone turned that pool of water into diarrhea.
>They launched a full-scale assault against one of our secret planets yesterday, and got away with the plans for this very battlestation
actually it was just a one-man operation
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>if g*d is real how come you didn't get the plans hmmm?
they didn't get the memo yet
how fast does information travel in the star wars universe, disregarding jj abrahams various speed subspace beams?
its almost as if vader was doing le epic long con to save the republic.
>Why yes it's true, Admiral. Despite being 0.00000013% of the population, Sith account for over 55% of all violent crime. Just look at the latest ISB statisti-ACK
>despite making up 0.000001% percent of the population, 50% of the dark force users were Jedi
I suspect he didn't disbelieve in the force but the death star made him so smug that he wanted to eventually coup the sith. Moffs with superweapons were modernity and force users were dinosaurs to him.
>fedora is easily propagandised by the state
It fits with reality, look at the soviet union.
I don't know why people assume that Motti didn't believe in the Force. He never says he doesn't. He might just assume that the Force isn't capable of doing anything more than minor feats of levitation or some other kind of similar stuff that isn't very impressive compared to normal weapons.
Exactly, he doesn't have some "holy shit the force is real" moment after he gets choked. He obviously knew Vader was capable of doing that.
Yeah, he might have just underestimated Vader's political power, not his power with the Force. The ability to choke a man who is standing a few feet away from you with your mind isn't that impressive. I mean, Vader could as easily have just brought a gun to the meeting and shot Motti. Motti assumes that Vader won't do that because of political reasons, not that Vader is not capable of doing it. And Motti was right about the Force not helping Vader find the rebel base or the plans, so his lack of confidence in Vader's Force ability was somewhat justified.
I think that both Christianity and trans activist dogma are inaccurate. Don't know why some people make it into an either/or thing.
Law of averages. Christians are more likely to be right wing and atheists leftist, and the trans debate obviously has its statistical preponderance going on with both those groups.
I thought this thread was about Motti. What the fuck are you guys doing?
Don't try to frighten us with your hot pocket ways, Janny.
Your sad devotion to board moderation has not helped you conjure on topic discussion, or given you the wage to find the shitposter disc-
*deletes your post*
I find my lack of wage disturbing.
Trannies gonna tranny.
If the SMO has proven anything, it's that military leadership will refuse to believe bad news in favor of propaganda. We have seen this from the Ukronazis at Adviika and Bakhmut. Ignore military officers looking out for the best for their men who have the best grasp of the situation and than turn around and listen to yesmen and incompetent but well connected peoples because they will tell you what you want to hear. Despite losing Bakhmut and being ground into paste there weeks ago, Ukraine's military leaders still force soldiers into the Bakhmut meat grinder purely for a propaganda victory despite the fact that the Ukronazi troops on the ground keep telling their superiors that it's a wasted effort.
>polcucks invading another thread
Transgender cultists have no standing to say other people are crazy.
the dude (or “dudette”) is clearly not very intelligent
>I'm an atheist because I love shoving things up my ass
Typical christtard delusion.
If you're dumb enough to pretend to believe in a book written by israelite with the IQ of a modern 5 year old then anything you say is completely meaningless.
>keep insisting your opponent is dumb while being demonstrably IQ mogged in the actual thread
Typical midwit delusion
also
>y-you’re israeli!
>votes in lock step with israelites
You realise repeatedly calling people dumb while losing an argument doesn’t make you start winning it? Or maybe because brain scans show that you have win waves that means I objectively are. You apply the same logic to “transfolk”
You fucking idiot lol you can be an asshole and correct at the same time.
You can also be an asshole and WRONG as you're so eloquently demonstrating
Who said I wanted to seem like I'm winning? I know I already am and I enjoy being needlessly rude. Isn't that what Cinemaphile is all about?
Nobody said asshole, more like person lashing out in emotional instability because they’re losing an argument on the internet. Your insults aren’t good enough to genuinely offend anyone, they’re just a tantrum
Okay??? Lol you found it compelling enough to reply and acknowledge it
Did the empire have a backup of all the data they held on Scariff?
>I am a member of the Imperial Senate on a diplomatic mission to Alder-
BITCH I JUST FUCKING SAW YOU LEAVE
To be fair, how long would it really take to go over the plans for the death star and find a weakness? It's the size of an entire moon, it'd be like combing through the layout of new york city times a billion over and over.
dunno I think the big hole leading out of the core would be a good start
The whole story of that I Rebel movie is a bad idea. In ANH the Death Stars' weakness is symbolic, not an act of sabotage. It is an apt metaphor for the Imperials' arrogance as displayed by Motti.
>You mean you fought in the war that happened less than 20 years ago and was still ongoing when I was a baby?!
Just twenty years earlier, when this guy was a lieutenant or whatever, the Jedi were an all powerful government organization yet he seems to have no recollection of any of that? Did Palpatine use the dark side to cloud his mind?
Fucking shit ass prequels contradicting everything set up in the Star Wars prequels
>hmmm im far too rational to believe in a metaphysical sky daddy!!!
>holy shit this dude in a wig said he’s female? HE CANT BE LYING
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>christcuck army invading the thread
you can’t win except by shouting down your intellectual betters. sad.
>phoneposter trying to talk shit
Starwars is just reminding the NWO that you will not control everyone without resistance.
What were they thinking with the ending of Rogue one? The vader hallway scene was cool but having Leia's ship escape from the battle only to lead up to beginning of ANH is retarded.
>going from flying spaghetti monster to getting genuinely angry because someone implied that a eunuch isn’t a woman
Modernity continues to amaze
>tranny discovers that if you selectively sample all the 1's and 2's of a d6, you can pretend it's a coin
it would have been better to just close the thread bro
>intellectual betters. sad.
So imagine Colin Powell is getting ready to invade Iraq, and for some reason he has this monk hanging around him. No one really knows why this monk is hanging around, but he is Cheney's right hand man, and has some mysterious history with him so has to be treated respectfully. While the Joint Chiefs of Staff are discussing invasion plans, the monk says "all your weapons of war are insignificant compared to shaolin kung fu" So general Petraues is like "ok, Mr Miyagi, but the grownups are talking"
And then the monk hadukens him.
That's what happened in that scene.