I’ll see Quantumania for sure, probably Guardians to finish out the trilogy. Maybe Blade depending on how connected it is to the rest of the MCU. I could probably care less for the rest, but not enough to actually quantify it.
It'll almost certainly have Yelena in it. I wonder if they will give her a love interest, or if the chemistry (they forced) with Kate Bishop is intended to go somewhere later.
GOTG, Ant-Man, and Daredevil are the only ones I'm genuinely interested in, and maybe Thunderbolts too if their cast is decent
Everything else there can go hang for all I care. There's far too many shows dedicated to nobodies, and the focus on the same old boring multiverse bullshit is stupid. Plus, there's just too many damn products. Disney's strategy of oversaturation is fricking ridiculous.
They actually have less stuff now than they did 5 years ago., Only difference is that back then it was all spread out due to Marvel Studios and Marvel Television being two different companies. That is no longer the case and everyting is on D+ now, which has lead to low IQ people like you to think they're making too much when in reality there's less stuff now than there was back then.
>, Only difference is that back then it was all spread out due to Marvel Studios and Marvel Television being two different companies.
Yes and back then the TV shows and Netflix stuff were mostly good because they werent being sabotaged by Feige's inane leadership. That's no longer the case.
>, Only difference is that back then it was all spread out due to Marvel Studios and Marvel Television being two different companies.
Yes and back then the TV shows and Netflix stuff were mostly good because they werent being sabotaged by Feige's inane leadership. That's no longer the case.
You were shit out of luck if you didn't like Agents of Tedious Guest Stars and thought Daredevil (and *maybe* Jessica Jones Season 1) was the only decent Netflix content. Man, that was a dark time. People shit on the current Marvel shows, and it's largely fair, but I think they forget how shit most of what we got on TV was. AOS was boring as frick whenever Caulson or Ward wasn't on screen, Luke Cage/Iron-Fist were absolute shit, Defenders was only good when Daredevil was onscreen, and we also got shit no body even watched like Cloak & Dagger and Inhumans. I mean, frick, I actually managed to sit though the worst of the new Disney shows, which is more than I can say for C&D and Inhumans.
Oh, yeah, Punisher and Runaways existed too. They were so forgettable I genuinely forgot the first existed and that the second was technically counted as MCU.
Eh, I liked AoS, but I overall agree with you on that, Daredevil (frick season 2) and Jessica Jones S1 being the high points. Robbie/Ghost Rider was good, and Luna knocked it out of the park. I've never gotten around to seeing Cage and Danny's show, so I'll reserve judgement on that.
Cage really isn't Luke, as you'll probably remember from JJ. I actually don't mind it as much as my shittalking implies, but he isn't Luke Cage, and they made the weird choice of making him a mini-(benevolent)-kingpin rather than pairing him up with Jess for the Pulse storyline. Iron-Fist is... dire.
Agents of Shield again I'm being hyperbolic with, but there is precious little about it I remember fondly all these years on (Coulson, Ward, Robbierider, and the Sif appearance) but I eventually dropped off around the time the science guy got brain damage and never got back into it. It just went on too long imo.
Dire? Hah, I'll adjust my expectations accordingly.
>science guy got brain damage
What's funny about that is according to my (incredibly biased) opinion, science guy ended up being the breakaway character of the show, so far outclassing all of the other characters he was in a league of his own by the series' end(followed closely by Simmons, Yoyo, and even Mack). Skye/Daisy, Coulson, and Mulan were all above average actors when the series started (with some remarkably arcs throughout/moments throughout the series), but their characters never had the same growth across the series as the rest of the cast.
>TFATWS
Pretty weak. It was just setting up Sam Wilson as Cap. Flag Smashers are the worst villians in the MCU. Isaiah Bradley showing up was cool though.
>WandaVIsion
Good and fun show, but your enjoyment of it is probably proportional to how much you love Wanda.
>Loki
One of the best MCU projects, period. Easily the highlight of Phase 4.
>Hawkeye
Fun show, but like WandaVision your enjoyment of it is probably proportional to how much you love its female lead.
>Moon Knight
Biggest disappointment of all the shows for me. I was hoping for gritty street level Moon Knight shenanigans, instead we got the Oscar Isaac show and literally like 5 minutes of Moon Knight in 6 hours.
>Ms Marvel
Have yet to watch this.
All in all, I'd say D+ shows are on average much better than the Marvel TV shows.
I've never been a big fan of Cap movies, but I'm still going to watch it anyway because Falcon Cap actually leads to some fricking awesome action sequences as the last episode of TFATWS proved.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I generally object to giving Sam the shield before Bucky, if he's going to get it then it should have been after his childhood friend and fellow super soldier with ties to it beyond being Caps jogging buddy. That and the guy playing Sam is a charisma vacuum for me. Unless he's speaking with the camera pressing against his forehead I barely even notice he exists, which isn't ideal for your movie lead.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I like Anthony Mackie because he's one of the few who acknowledges how inherently stupid/dumb the MCU capeshit is, but as an actor he's just not quite leading man material
2 years ago
Anonymous
Well Bucky presumably already has a future ahead of him. He's going to be the White Wolf, pic related.
But I agree about Anthony Mackie. He just isn't the one to lead a film.
2 years ago
Anonymous
If they do go that route with Bucky, I'll genuinely have have (at least a little) less distain for CapFalcon, but there isn't anything they can do about the Mackie factor. They should at least give him the super soldier serum if they plan on putting him up front. It was barley cohesive when Steve was doing image related, never mind a normal human doing the shit Cap has done.
I didn't even bother to watch the third season because season 2 was so meh and Karen Page's actress was garbage. No interest in a continuation of a show that would be middling even on network TV.
Me neither, honestly, but I'm going to now we have Born Again coming. Honestly, it's one of the best Marvel stories imo, so it being adapted (even though they are going to brutally butcher it, because we can't have a woman being shown to be weak and vulnerable, or a white man regaining his faith in a Disney 2023 production) is pretty interesting at the very least.
I feel like Wandavision is the only show that utilized the show format well. The rest, especially Hawkeye and Falcon and Ms. Marvel, could have been movies.
No way that's true. They're doing 4 movies a year now, and then about 4/5 disney+ shows on top of that. It's pretty different from back when they were just doing two movies a year with a show or two you might watch
There were ten shows in total, and other than DD and JJ early seasons, a lot of them were running in the same few years leading up to Infinity War/Endgame.
Let's see >the 5 Netflix shows (6 if you count the Defenders miniseries) >Agents of SHIELD >Agent Carter >Inhumans >Runaways >Cloak & Dagger
huh, it is actually more than I expected
But I think the big difference is that these shows were more spread out, and they weren't promoted like you were meant to watch all of them. I reckon most MCU fans will have just watched Daredevil, and maybe Agents of SHIELD too. But I highly doubt there's anyone who gave a frick about any of the last three shows on the list above
Funnily enough, thinking about it it seems that the Netflix shows fell into the same trap that the Disney+ shows have now, where they rushed into putting out as many series as they could in (relatively) rapid succession and the quality dropped as a result
Cautious interest. Phase 4 has been utter shit overall, though I liked Hawkeye, DS2, and NWH. My mom loves the Guardians so I'm glad she's getting another movie next year. I'm hopeful that Daredevil is a soft continuation of the Netflix series rather than a shitty reboot. I'm also open to seeing what Secret Invasion, Thunderbolts, The Marvels, and maybe Iron-Heart are all going to turn out like. Hell, the only think I'm flat out not interested in is Echo; I'll skip through it for the Kingpin scenes and any Daredevil cameos.
Does Marvel expect me to watch all this shit? The only MCU movie I have watched entirely without spoilers in my lifetime was The Avengers, there is so much fricking MCU shit now and it's too damn much. I hope this franchise crashes and burns.
>Daredevil (should have started fresh)
Worst take ever. Hell, you can't even do Born Again without the Netflix series setting it up, because Kingpin learning his identity from druggie Karen requires at least a few seasons of hate between Matt and Fisk and for us to grow to like Karen to feel the betrayal alongside Matt. Saying that, I doubt Disney will go with the drug-prostitute story because Disney, but I guess we'll see.
I didn't even bother to watch the third season because season 2 was so meh and Karen Page's actress was garbage. No interest in a continuation of a show that would be middling even on network TV.
It'll be interesting to see what Disney does with this Daredevil reboot sequel. They're stuck in a bind, since if they abandon the grittiness and violence of the original Netflix series then they'll lose a ton of goodwill, but that tone so obviously clashes with what they want for the MCU
I mean, they already said they're doing R-rated Deadpool 3. They should at least be able to do R-rated DD. It won't be TV-MA levels of gritty but they can still get away with a lot on an R rating.
After I thought about it and read a couple of leaks, I feel like phase 5 is gonna be way better. The universe actually feels like it’s moving forward with the movies and the stories aren’t about people b***hing and crying about shit as much (looking at wanda). On the tv side, I think Loki, secret invasion and daredevil are stuff I want to watch and not just, oh it’s mcu so I need to tune in like with phase 4 stuff.
I have no strong feelings one way or the other
Same
I want someone to please make it stop
Just don't watch moron
I’ll see Quantumania for sure, probably Guardians to finish out the trilogy. Maybe Blade depending on how connected it is to the rest of the MCU. I could probably care less for the rest, but not enough to actually quantify it.
>Secret invasion
>Blade
>Daredevil
Only things I'm looking forward to
>Watching
Quantumania
GOTG3
Loki S2
Blade
Daredevil
>Maybe
Secret Invasion
Iron Heart
Agatha
>Skip
Echo
The Marvels
Captain America (unless it ties into Kang)
Thunderbolts
I could watch Thunderbolts depending on the roster, I like Daniel Brühl, Sam Rockwell and Wyatt Russell, maybe GotG vol 3 too, that's it.
It'll almost certainly have Yelena in it. I wonder if they will give her a love interest, or if the chemistry (they forced) with Kate Bishop is intended to go somewhere later.
I have multiverse fatigue.
GOTG, Ant-Man, and Daredevil are the only ones I'm genuinely interested in, and maybe Thunderbolts too if their cast is decent
Everything else there can go hang for all I care. There's far too many shows dedicated to nobodies, and the focus on the same old boring multiverse bullshit is stupid. Plus, there's just too many damn products. Disney's strategy of oversaturation is fricking ridiculous.
>I will watch the things I am the target audience for
>and get mad when they make things for other target audiences
They actually have less stuff now than they did 5 years ago., Only difference is that back then it was all spread out due to Marvel Studios and Marvel Television being two different companies. That is no longer the case and everyting is on D+ now, which has lead to low IQ people like you to think they're making too much when in reality there's less stuff now than there was back then.
>, Only difference is that back then it was all spread out due to Marvel Studios and Marvel Television being two different companies.
Yes and back then the TV shows and Netflix stuff were mostly good because they werent being sabotaged by Feige's inane leadership. That's no longer the case.
You were shit out of luck if you didn't like Agents of Tedious Guest Stars and thought Daredevil (and *maybe* Jessica Jones Season 1) was the only decent Netflix content. Man, that was a dark time. People shit on the current Marvel shows, and it's largely fair, but I think they forget how shit most of what we got on TV was. AOS was boring as frick whenever Caulson or Ward wasn't on screen, Luke Cage/Iron-Fist were absolute shit, Defenders was only good when Daredevil was onscreen, and we also got shit no body even watched like Cloak & Dagger and Inhumans. I mean, frick, I actually managed to sit though the worst of the new Disney shows, which is more than I can say for C&D and Inhumans.
Oh, yeah, Punisher and Runaways existed too. They were so forgettable I genuinely forgot the first existed and that the second was technically counted as MCU.
Eh, I liked AoS, but I overall agree with you on that, Daredevil (frick season 2) and Jessica Jones S1 being the high points. Robbie/Ghost Rider was good, and Luna knocked it out of the park. I've never gotten around to seeing Cage and Danny's show, so I'll reserve judgement on that.
Cage really isn't Luke, as you'll probably remember from JJ. I actually don't mind it as much as my shittalking implies, but he isn't Luke Cage, and they made the weird choice of making him a mini-(benevolent)-kingpin rather than pairing him up with Jess for the Pulse storyline. Iron-Fist is... dire.
Agents of Shield again I'm being hyperbolic with, but there is precious little about it I remember fondly all these years on (Coulson, Ward, Robbierider, and the Sif appearance) but I eventually dropped off around the time the science guy got brain damage and never got back into it. It just went on too long imo.
Dire? Hah, I'll adjust my expectations accordingly.
>science guy got brain damage
What's funny about that is according to my (incredibly biased) opinion, science guy ended up being the breakaway character of the show, so far outclassing all of the other characters he was in a league of his own by the series' end(followed closely by Simmons, Yoyo, and even Mack). Skye/Daisy, Coulson, and Mulan were all above average actors when the series started (with some remarkably arcs throughout/moments throughout the series), but their characters never had the same growth across the series as the rest of the cast.
Current D+ shows:
>TFATWS
Pretty weak. It was just setting up Sam Wilson as Cap. Flag Smashers are the worst villians in the MCU. Isaiah Bradley showing up was cool though.
>WandaVIsion
Good and fun show, but your enjoyment of it is probably proportional to how much you love Wanda.
>Loki
One of the best MCU projects, period. Easily the highlight of Phase 4.
>Hawkeye
Fun show, but like WandaVision your enjoyment of it is probably proportional to how much you love its female lead.
>Moon Knight
Biggest disappointment of all the shows for me. I was hoping for gritty street level Moon Knight shenanigans, instead we got the Oscar Isaac show and literally like 5 minutes of Moon Knight in 6 hours.
>Ms Marvel
Have yet to watch this.
All in all, I'd say D+ shows are on average much better than the Marvel TV shows.
>It was just setting up Sam Wilson as Cap.
I'm morbidly curious whether his movie will bomb or whether it'll get #WakandaForever money.
I've never been a big fan of Cap movies, but I'm still going to watch it anyway because Falcon Cap actually leads to some fricking awesome action sequences as the last episode of TFATWS proved.
I generally object to giving Sam the shield before Bucky, if he's going to get it then it should have been after his childhood friend and fellow super soldier with ties to it beyond being Caps jogging buddy. That and the guy playing Sam is a charisma vacuum for me. Unless he's speaking with the camera pressing against his forehead I barely even notice he exists, which isn't ideal for your movie lead.
I like Anthony Mackie because he's one of the few who acknowledges how inherently stupid/dumb the MCU capeshit is, but as an actor he's just not quite leading man material
Well Bucky presumably already has a future ahead of him. He's going to be the White Wolf, pic related.
But I agree about Anthony Mackie. He just isn't the one to lead a film.
If they do go that route with Bucky, I'll genuinely have have (at least a little) less distain for CapFalcon, but there isn't anything they can do about the Mackie factor. They should at least give him the super soldier serum if they plan on putting him up front. It was barley cohesive when Steve was doing image related, never mind a normal human doing the shit Cap has done.
Me neither, honestly, but I'm going to now we have Born Again coming. Honestly, it's one of the best Marvel stories imo, so it being adapted (even though they are going to brutally butcher it, because we can't have a woman being shown to be weak and vulnerable, or a white man regaining his faith in a Disney 2023 production) is pretty interesting at the very least.
I feel like Wandavision is the only show that utilized the show format well. The rest, especially Hawkeye and Falcon and Ms. Marvel, could have been movies.
No way that's true. They're doing 4 movies a year now, and then about 4/5 disney+ shows on top of that. It's pretty different from back when they were just doing two movies a year with a show or two you might watch
There were ten shows in total, and other than DD and JJ early seasons, a lot of them were running in the same few years leading up to Infinity War/Endgame.
Let's see
>the 5 Netflix shows (6 if you count the Defenders miniseries)
>Agents of SHIELD
>Agent Carter
>Inhumans
>Runaways
>Cloak & Dagger
huh, it is actually more than I expected
But I think the big difference is that these shows were more spread out, and they weren't promoted like you were meant to watch all of them. I reckon most MCU fans will have just watched Daredevil, and maybe Agents of SHIELD too. But I highly doubt there's anyone who gave a frick about any of the last three shows on the list above
Funnily enough, thinking about it it seems that the Netflix shows fell into the same trap that the Disney+ shows have now, where they rushed into putting out as many series as they could in (relatively) rapid succession and the quality dropped as a result
sadness, they used to make fun to watch movies, now they're just a cringefest
Cautious interest. Phase 4 has been utter shit overall, though I liked Hawkeye, DS2, and NWH. My mom loves the Guardians so I'm glad she's getting another movie next year. I'm hopeful that Daredevil is a soft continuation of the Netflix series rather than a shitty reboot. I'm also open to seeing what Secret Invasion, Thunderbolts, The Marvels, and maybe Iron-Heart are all going to turn out like. Hell, the only think I'm flat out not interested in is Echo; I'll skip through it for the Kingpin scenes and any Daredevil cameos.
I hate it more than I hated phase 4. So much sludge
Where the frick is Black Knight?
Does Marvel expect me to watch all this shit? The only MCU movie I have watched entirely without spoilers in my lifetime was The Avengers, there is so much fricking MCU shit now and it's too damn much. I hope this franchise crashes and burns.
Yes they do
>Properly Hyped
Thunderbolts
>Sounds good
Quantumania
GotG3
Agatha
>Might be good
Cap 4
Secret Invasion
Blade
Marvels
>Don't care
Echo
Loki
Ironheart
Daredevil (should have started fresh)
>Daredevil (should have started fresh)
Worst take ever. Hell, you can't even do Born Again without the Netflix series setting it up, because Kingpin learning his identity from druggie Karen requires at least a few seasons of hate between Matt and Fisk and for us to grow to like Karen to feel the betrayal alongside Matt. Saying that, I doubt Disney will go with the drug-prostitute story because Disney, but I guess we'll see.
does in current comic kingpin still know about daredevil identity or everything forgotten after secret wars 2015 events?
No, he forgot and when he looked st his old files he can't read them
I didn't even bother to watch the third season because season 2 was so meh and Karen Page's actress was garbage. No interest in a continuation of a show that would be middling even on network TV.
You're missing out anon, season 3 is pretty great.
It'll be interesting to see what Disney does with this Daredevil reboot sequel. They're stuck in a bind, since if they abandon the grittiness and violence of the original Netflix series then they'll lose a ton of goodwill, but that tone so obviously clashes with what they want for the MCU
I mean, they already said they're doing R-rated Deadpool 3. They should at least be able to do R-rated DD. It won't be TV-MA levels of gritty but they can still get away with a lot on an R rating.
>but that tone so obviously clashes with what they want for the MCU
what they want for the MCU sucks
Well yeah, that goes without saying
Nothing worth shilling here.
I feel completely indifferent to 90% of it
The only things that I interested is Ant-Man and Guardians. Daredevil I feels skeptical when it's D+ production
After I thought about it and read a couple of leaks, I feel like phase 5 is gonna be way better. The universe actually feels like it’s moving forward with the movies and the stories aren’t about people b***hing and crying about shit as much (looking at wanda). On the tv side, I think Loki, secret invasion and daredevil are stuff I want to watch and not just, oh it’s mcu so I need to tune in like with phase 4 stuff.
Only looking forward for GotG 3
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