It wasn't bashing Christianity, it was bashing self-righteous lunatics who use Christianity as a way to manipulate people and get power. The villain of the story is the one who pretended to be pious but didn't have any actual faith, for fuck's sake. And the actual priest was just a well-meaning person who fucked up. Half the heroes are devout Christians for crying out loud.
Can you losers stop being incredibly fragile for five fucking seconds?
I'm just glad we finally got to see a muslim finally be the good guy in a movie, since it's apparently 2003 and america hating muslims is still an issue.
This, it literally ends with all the good religious folk standing around singing and praying, waiting for the end, while the actual villain desperately tries to save herself.
It's almost like the people complaining on /misc/ don't actually watch the shows they talk about.
I liked the acting of the priest and Bev, I think that was her name. The crazy ginger woman.
The weird subplot with the muslim cop who was a delusional piece of shit was strange but memorable. So was the town drunk's sad little story. And the supposed main character immolating three quarters of the way through was neat.
It also had a nice kind of feel about the isolated small town location.
Some really fucking retarded shit in the plot and some indulgent monologues.
As a we have a Steven King story at home goes, it was alright. I don't really care about the criticism of christianity, I guess I'm a bad catholic. It's just a silly horror story with nothing insightful to say where that's concerned. But as piece of television it was a decently well-made, especially as a covid project.
its been a while since I've seen it but starts off as pretty interesting and really sets the mood for the mystery at the beginning then as soon as "It" shows up and I felt like the entire movie was made to whoever was writing it could get his existential rant off his chest. his great white whale that he needed to tell the world about humans being made of stardust and dust. that there is no magical "saviour" for anyone but we just have to believe in ourselves.
I mean dont get me wrong. thats a perfectly fine attitude to have but why did you have to hold a horror movie hostage to deliver it?
so thats what I thought. Everytime I think of the movie I just immediately think of the song "We are Between" by Modest Mouse because of the little 5 minute rant that serves as the transistory piece for the ending and wind down .
Exactly this. I really liked episode 7, but the first thing I ALWAYS think of when this show comes to mind is the insane monologue that just goes on and on. It takes you out of the show and it unforgettable for all the wrong reasons. The show was generally good, and despite the really indulgent monologue, it gets better as it goes. Until episode 8 where you really have to turn your brain off to enjoy it.
Interesting. Do you feel like the writers were ranting because it didn't align with your personal beliefs?
I have read criticism about the dialogue but considering how controversial it is with religious people I can't tell if the criticism is valid or if it's coming from a biased religious perspective.
>Interesting. Do you feel like the writers were ranting because it didn't align with your personal beliefs?
lmfao no.Even though my family is Christian I personally have never have been a religious type. Im a skeptic and a smart alec so the minute I was told the story of Jonah and the Whale I called bullshit. the idea of God and Utopia is just outright paradoxical of a concept for me because of how dynamic your average person truly is then reading through the bible its obvious its not of divinity or an all knowing because it changes its mind on a dime and only reflects the mindsets for the time period. For what its worth I actually 100% agree with the diatribe. we ARE stardust. we ARE nothing but a bunch of chemicals and synapses being piloted by a little biochip. we dont have souls, just brains and when thats gone YOU are gone. This is not a good nor a bad thing. simply a thing that happens and it doesnt matter if you choose to reject or accept it because it happens either way.
I call it a rant because thats really just what it felt like. it goes on for way longer than you think and after the first minute of speech your eyes begin to roll to the back of your head. she never stops talking and then everything just decompresses. the problem auto-resolves itself almost magically once this moment is over so the ending can roll up.
with how its structured like that its almost as though that ladys inner monologue is what saved the day and its fucking lame.
AGAIN. its not that I disagree with what she said. its that WHY DID YOU HIJACK A GOOD HORROR MOVIE TO SAY IT?
Alright, I can see where you're coming from. That's a good explanation and I agree that some of the dialogue goes on too long in a few scenes.
You're alright, anon.
they could have at least kept it metaphorical like Annihilation did. I dislike it when movies spell things out their own themes as if the person watching is a actual invalid who needs to be told how to feel process it. like Rob Sterling at the end of a Twilight Zone episode giving a closing speech for those who didnt understand what they just watched.
>"Love is the one thing we are capable of recieving that transcends Time and Space"
oh comon. If you had let me finish the movie I could have probably realized that. a lot of the fun of looking at a art piece is coming to your own conclusions you know.
I'm surprised that the motion picture association of america, which is 100% run by old white cigar smoking men that look just like your dad, even allowed it to be released.
Its freaky how there's like twenty posters with the same lockstep "muh Christianity but atheists secretly love other religions" opinion. Did I miss a YouTube video or something?
Not so much love, they're just pointing out that post-2012 internet atheists aren't gutsy enough to go after other major religions for fear of being accused of being racists. Someone like Christopher Hitchens now would be slaughtered.
It's funny too since most Catholic and mainstream Protestant churches now have their parishes primarily made up of darkies, Vietnamese and Koreans.
Can you blame them? Its actually risky to go after islam. I can't remember the last time a christian went into a cafe in an explosive vest packed with ball bearings, or shot up a cartoonist making antichristian images. Is islam is a third rail its because they're dangerous more so than racism. What's funny is they're dangerous because they're brown.
all these Flanagan shows are pretty weak. it's a handful of spooky moments and a handful of eyeroll moments and then a lot of conversations for women in between. i finally watched them all after i got a 3 month free trial for Netflix. Midnight Mass was carried HARD by Hamish Linklater
>Rural white religious people are misguided at best or outright malicious at worst and need lesbians and brown people who FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE to show them the error of their ways
I liked it and the priest guy was such a good character and well-acted. There were some really shitty dialogue moments though, the part where the main kid and the girl are talking about death was the worst. Not even remotely like a real conversation, it was just gay as hell
It was mid, it completely convinced me that Mike from RLM prefers the setting and themes of entertainment over its execution.
The religion bashing certainly detracts from the overall experience and even today feels dated. I would say it had a very solid start but really tripped up the middle and just ducking blew the ending. It had the potential to be great like the Terror but absolutely fumbled it.
If I had to describe it I would call a crappy version of the mist with vampires and grug tier symbolism.
I wouldn’t even go as far as to call it unique because 30 days of night exists and there are plenty of knock off shutter islands.
you can't discuss Midnight Mass on /misc/, else the LARPing christians and catholics come out.
yeah dude bashing Christianity is super high brow and not a low hanging fruit. Man isn’t the 1000 year traditions of mass just weird?
Fucking OBSESSED with the fact you called out exactly how this thread was going to go. Fpbp
>Eat the slop or you're a LARPer.
It was really good. Mike Flanagan don't miss.
This, and his next tv series is Fall of the House of Usher coming out next month on Netflix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvuAWVzP6wI
>Midnight Ass?
AMEN BRO, PREACH IT
i liked the vampire angle and the light blinding makes it look like a halo
I love this movie. It's been a while since white small town christianity has been criticized. They've had it good for too long.
>what if religion bad?
>except islam ofc
>Christianity? Bad.
>Angels? Actually monsters.
>White people? Racist.
>Muslims? That's a good thing.
Extremely controversial direction for Netflix.
? Actually monsters.
uhhh....well I mean.....
>evil racist white people elect a brown Muslim sheriff
Why did they do that if they were evil racist white people?
Whatever the reason was, the important thing is that it wasn't enough and they all had to die for being racist and white.
CURRIDGE
anyone else get the priest mixed up with the shazam guy sometimes?
It wasn't bashing Christianity, it was bashing self-righteous lunatics who use Christianity as a way to manipulate people and get power. The villain of the story is the one who pretended to be pious but didn't have any actual faith, for fuck's sake. And the actual priest was just a well-meaning person who fucked up. Half the heroes are devout Christians for crying out loud.
Can you losers stop being incredibly fragile for five fucking seconds?
I'm just glad we finally got to see a muslim finally be the good guy in a movie, since it's apparently 2003 and america hating muslims is still an issue.
This is how I interpreted it as well. Why do you think so many people on this site see it differently?
i thought it was a good vampire adaptation
This, it literally ends with all the good religious folk standing around singing and praying, waiting for the end, while the actual villain desperately tries to save herself.
It's almost like the people complaining on /misc/ don't actually watch the shows they talk about.
I liked the acting of the priest and Bev, I think that was her name. The crazy ginger woman.
The weird subplot with the muslim cop who was a delusional piece of shit was strange but memorable. So was the town drunk's sad little story. And the supposed main character immolating three quarters of the way through was neat.
It also had a nice kind of feel about the isolated small town location.
Some really fucking retarded shit in the plot and some indulgent monologues.
As a we have a Steven King story at home goes, it was alright. I don't really care about the criticism of christianity, I guess I'm a bad catholic. It's just a silly horror story with nothing insightful to say where that's concerned. But as piece of television it was a decently well-made, especially as a covid project.
its been a while since I've seen it but starts off as pretty interesting and really sets the mood for the mystery at the beginning then as soon as "It" shows up and I felt like the entire movie was made to whoever was writing it could get his existential rant off his chest. his great white whale that he needed to tell the world about humans being made of stardust and dust. that there is no magical "saviour" for anyone but we just have to believe in ourselves.
I mean dont get me wrong. thats a perfectly fine attitude to have but why did you have to hold a horror movie hostage to deliver it?
so thats what I thought. Everytime I think of the movie I just immediately think of the song "We are Between" by Modest Mouse because of the little 5 minute rant that serves as the transistory piece for the ending and wind down .
Exactly this. I really liked episode 7, but the first thing I ALWAYS think of when this show comes to mind is the insane monologue that just goes on and on. It takes you out of the show and it unforgettable for all the wrong reasons. The show was generally good, and despite the really indulgent monologue, it gets better as it goes. Until episode 8 where you really have to turn your brain off to enjoy it.
My fault - episode 7. I really liked episode 6; it brings everything to a nice head. But then it fumbles the bag pretty hard.
Interesting. Do you feel like the writers were ranting because it didn't align with your personal beliefs?
I have read criticism about the dialogue but considering how controversial it is with religious people I can't tell if the criticism is valid or if it's coming from a biased religious perspective.
>Interesting. Do you feel like the writers were ranting because it didn't align with your personal beliefs?
lmfao no.Even though my family is Christian I personally have never have been a religious type. Im a skeptic and a smart alec so the minute I was told the story of Jonah and the Whale I called bullshit. the idea of God and Utopia is just outright paradoxical of a concept for me because of how dynamic your average person truly is then reading through the bible its obvious its not of divinity or an all knowing because it changes its mind on a dime and only reflects the mindsets for the time period. For what its worth I actually 100% agree with the diatribe. we ARE stardust. we ARE nothing but a bunch of chemicals and synapses being piloted by a little biochip. we dont have souls, just brains and when thats gone YOU are gone. This is not a good nor a bad thing. simply a thing that happens and it doesnt matter if you choose to reject or accept it because it happens either way.
I call it a rant because thats really just what it felt like. it goes on for way longer than you think and after the first minute of speech your eyes begin to roll to the back of your head. she never stops talking and then everything just decompresses. the problem auto-resolves itself almost magically once this moment is over so the ending can roll up.
with how its structured like that its almost as though that ladys inner monologue is what saved the day and its fucking lame.
AGAIN. its not that I disagree with what she said. its that WHY DID YOU HIJACK A GOOD HORROR MOVIE TO SAY IT?
Alright, I can see where you're coming from. That's a good explanation and I agree that some of the dialogue goes on too long in a few scenes.
You're alright, anon.
they could have at least kept it metaphorical like Annihilation did. I dislike it when movies spell things out their own themes as if the person watching is a actual invalid who needs to be told how to feel process it. like Rob Sterling at the end of a Twilight Zone episode giving a closing speech for those who didnt understand what they just watched.
>"Love is the one thing we are capable of recieving that transcends Time and Space"
oh comon. If you had let me finish the movie I could have probably realized that. a lot of the fun of looking at a art piece is coming to your own conclusions you know.
Woah making fun of Christians? This must be some truely edgy TV here. Can't believe they got away with that
I'm surprised that the motion picture association of america, which is 100% run by old white cigar smoking men that look just like your dad, even allowed it to be released.
>christianity is… LE BAD
brave
The priest was kino, everything else was mediocre. Especially the muslim cop and Flanagan's talentless wife
Its freaky how there's like twenty posters with the same lockstep "muh Christianity but atheists secretly love other religions" opinion. Did I miss a YouTube video or something?
Not so much love, they're just pointing out that post-2012 internet atheists aren't gutsy enough to go after other major religions for fear of being accused of being racists. Someone like Christopher Hitchens now would be slaughtered.
It's funny too since most Catholic and mainstream Protestant churches now have their parishes primarily made up of darkies, Vietnamese and Koreans.
Can you blame them? Its actually risky to go after islam. I can't remember the last time a christian went into a cafe in an explosive vest packed with ball bearings, or shot up a cartoonist making antichristian images. Is islam is a third rail its because they're dangerous more so than racism. What's funny is they're dangerous because they're brown.
>Listen guys what if monism, but even gayer??
>hear good things about this
>currently have Netflix
>turns out it's a show
>never check it out
I'm not going to sit around for 8 hours watching something that could either be a movie or a book that I could read faster.
all these Flanagan shows are pretty weak. it's a handful of spooky moments and a handful of eyeroll moments and then a lot of conversations for women in between. i finally watched them all after i got a 3 month free trial for Netflix. Midnight Mass was carried HARD by Hamish Linklater
The priest was a great character but the show was extremely indulgent and had pacing issues.
had its moments and priest was a good performance. probably the last good thing he will make midnight club was garbage
It's alright I guess, but the show's understanding of Catholicism is absolute dogshit.
>Rural white religious people are misguided at best or outright malicious at worst and need lesbians and brown people who FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE to show them the error of their ways
I liked it and the priest guy was such a good character and well-acted. There were some really shitty dialogue moments though, the part where the main kid and the girl are talking about death was the worst. Not even remotely like a real conversation, it was just gay as hell
I saw minorities in the first episode so I don't remember anything about that pile of shit.
Onions horror
It's not even scary
It doesn't really try to be scary. The first episode builds up like it's going to be horror, the fact it turns into something else is a twist
I dunno. The last 15 minutes of the penultimate episode had my heart racing.
It was mid, it completely convinced me that Mike from RLM prefers the setting and themes of entertainment over its execution.
The religion bashing certainly detracts from the overall experience and even today feels dated. I would say it had a very solid start but really tripped up the middle and just ducking blew the ending. It had the potential to be great like the Terror but absolutely fumbled it.
If I had to describe it I would call a crappy version of the mist with vampires and grug tier symbolism.
I wouldn’t even go as far as to call it unique because 30 days of night exists and there are plenty of knock off shutter islands.