>Budgeting for the department
That's done by HR and/or Finance
>delegating tasks & making sure they get completed on time
So, telling people to do what they're already supposed to be doing? Being a text-to-speech Jira board?
>payroll
Done by Payroll
>onboarding/off boarding
Done by HR and/or senior members of the team
Wait no, let's hire a completely new person who makes 3x as much as the average employee instead. Also the movie makes a note about excessive memoes, each of which could be used to remind people of their tasks.
I know you are 19 years old but in 1999 we didn't have every admin task exploded out to a separate pajeet contractor. we used to do budgeting, "scrum" horseshit, payroll, onboarding, HR, and everything else.
A well trained workforce can sort that out amongst themselves
>making sure they get completed on time
See point above.
>payroll
Staff submitting their own timesheets which managers just tick off does not require much time or effort.
>onboarding/off boarding
Induction type duties can be completed in less than a day for new starters - and for desk jockeys they are better off being shown the ropes by established staff already working at the desk - not the manager who is probably out of touch.
Managers are over-priced for what they actually do and accomplish and EVERY organisation could probably half their managers and see no worse output and possibly better staff morale.
Rather than just lay Milton off or fire him for being an autistic weirdo, for which there were little legal protections in the 90s, he just kept fricking with him like a passive aggressive wormy middle manager.
I'd say making Peter come in on the weekend was wrong but since Peter pretty much admits to doing only about 15 minutes of work per day, he was at least partially responsible for the hole they were in that necessitated weekend work.
They were being paid by other companies to update their software to handle four digit years before January 1st, 2000. That's what gave their company the money to pay them. If the work didn't get done, the client could refuse payment or sue, meaning the company could go under and no one would have income. That seems rather important.
Again, where does that correlate directly with they being behind on work? Who's to say it's not because a different department fricked up?
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Anonymous
But why would Peter be asked to work overtime if his department wasn't responsible for there being overtime to work? Employees from one department aren't typically pulled to do another department's work.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>But why would Peter be asked to work overtime if his department wasn't responsible for there being overtime to work
Woah, it's almost like...that's the point of the movie!! Basedbros, I need to watch a 40 minute video essay on this
From a higher level perspective he was a redundant middle manager that gave those below him menial paper push tasks like TPS reports so he could keep himself busy with pointless meetings and non essential clerical work so he could justify his own lack of actual output.
Kek
Time thieves
But when the shit hits the fan and it will, you’re there to clean it up. Never have guilt, you won’t get anything extra for it. Unless you’re in Japan then you’re already lost
I slept 2 hours last night and I feel like absolute garbage. I have so much work to do today but I still haven’t even gotten out of bed, I just move the cursor on my laptop every few minutes so Teams shows green. I hate this stupid job so much.
Kek
Time thieves
But when the shit hits the fan and it will, you’re there to clean it up. Never have guilt, you won’t get anything extra for it. Unless you’re in Japan then you’re already lost
I work in IT as an app dev. Most of my JIRA stories are super simple changes and I have time while waiting for builds, tests, code reviews, deployments and just general laziness to frick around and watch shows, play vidya, or browse Cinemaphile all from my home too every single day. I recognize the ridiculousness of it but it's what it is so I make do.
At my last company, one of our product managers told me he spent 20-30 hours a week gaming and less than 10 actually working. He lived in a $500,000 condo and drove a Porche.
Once you're in a position that makes six figs, you pretty much fall up perpetually. Unless you do something really fricked up or your entire industry crashes.
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I work in IT as an app dev. Most of my JIRA stories are super simple changes and I have time while waiting for builds, tests, code reviews, deployments and just general laziness to frick around and watch shows, play vidya, or browse Cinemaphile all from my home too every single day. I recognize the ridiculousness of it but it's what it is so I make do.
These days, especially in technology fields, as long as you get your work done on time and correct, no one really gives a shit what you do.
This.
It's based. No micromanaging, nobody bugging you. Just keep churning out your stories sprint by sprint without being late and you can play vidya for 30 hours a week.
>I just move the cursor on my laptop every few minutes so Teams shows green
put your mouse on a watch, the hands moving will move the cursor if your mouse is sensitive enough
While most offices were trying to modernize, the management had zero idea what that meant, what computers could do, how to utilize them, what to buy, etc, etc, so they kept doing a mostly useless multi-manager paper shuffle except with worse than useless technology.
all managers must fricking hang
Being a chud
What did he even do besides tell other people to do things?
Budgeting for the department, delegating tasks & making sure they get completed on time, payroll, onboarding/off boarding
So then why do people act like they do nothing? They do more than you even.
I never said that, dumb troony
The question was why people in general on Cinemaphile.
Jealous people who've never had a good manager.
>Budgeting for the department
That's done by HR and/or Finance
>delegating tasks & making sure they get completed on time
So, telling people to do what they're already supposed to be doing? Being a text-to-speech Jira board?
>payroll
Done by Payroll
>onboarding/off boarding
Done by HR and/or senior members of the team
You realize JIRA didn't exist back then.
>grab sticky note
>grab whiteboard
Wait no, let's hire a completely new person who makes 3x as much as the average employee instead. Also the movie makes a note about excessive memoes, each of which could be used to remind people of their tasks.
You should start a business with no managers
I might. Most untrained interns are capable of doing the same tasks managers do.
I know you are 19 years old but in 1999 we didn't have every admin task exploded out to a separate pajeet contractor. we used to do budgeting, "scrum" horseshit, payroll, onboarding, HR, and everything else.
>Budgeting for the department
A simple spreadsheet task
>delegating tasks
A well trained workforce can sort that out amongst themselves
>making sure they get completed on time
See point above.
>payroll
Staff submitting their own timesheets which managers just tick off does not require much time or effort.
>onboarding/off boarding
Induction type duties can be completed in less than a day for new starters - and for desk jockeys they are better off being shown the ropes by established staff already working at the desk - not the manager who is probably out of touch.
Managers are over-priced for what they actually do and accomplish and EVERY organisation could probably half their managers and see no worse output and possibly better staff morale.
Tough to tell if extremely naive or bait
>organisation
Managers only exist to be the scapegoat if the department royally shits the bed and you can't afford to restaff it
vanity car plate
Be American
Rather than just lay Milton off or fire him for being an autistic weirdo, for which there were little legal protections in the 90s, he just kept fricking with him like a passive aggressive wormy middle manager.
They did fire him. He just didn't know it.
He took no actions to fire him is the point. He wasn't proactive or willing to take charge of the situation.
I'd say making Peter come in on the weekend was wrong but since Peter pretty much admits to doing only about 15 minutes of work per day, he was at least partially responsible for the hole they were in that necessitated weekend work.
he didnt work on anything that mattered
They were being paid by other companies to update their software to handle four digit years before January 1st, 2000. That's what gave their company the money to pay them. If the work didn't get done, the client could refuse payment or sue, meaning the company could go under and no one would have income. That seems rather important.
And where did they indicate in the movie that Peter was the reason they were behind?
When Peter said "On an average day, I only do about 15 minutes of work".
Again, where does that correlate directly with they being behind on work? Who's to say it's not because a different department fricked up?
But why would Peter be asked to work overtime if his department wasn't responsible for there being overtime to work? Employees from one department aren't typically pulled to do another department's work.
>But why would Peter be asked to work overtime if his department wasn't responsible for there being overtime to work
Woah, it's almost like...that's the point of the movie!! Basedbros, I need to watch a 40 minute video essay on this
Imagine coming on Cinemaphile to white knight for Lumbergh
You must watch Fox News, lemming
Go back to 2007
Hahahaha
If he can get away with only working 15 minutes per day it means he is not given enough tasks to accomplish. Its a managerial problem
He wore suspenders with a belt
From a higher level perspective he was a redundant middle manager that gave those below him menial paper push tasks like TPS reports so he could keep himself busy with pointless meetings and non essential clerical work so he could justify his own lack of actual output.
after being a manager i connect with him and hate people like Peter with a passion
it ruined Office Space for me
Time thieves are truly the worst.
That was said in irony because I'm literally on my phone browsing Cinemaphile in the middle of a Monday.
i am fapping in my office LMAO
What tags?
Kek
Time thieves
But when the shit hits the fan and it will, you’re there to clean it up. Never have guilt, you won’t get anything extra for it. Unless you’re in Japan then you’re already lost
I slept 2 hours last night and I feel like absolute garbage. I have so much work to do today but I still haven’t even gotten out of bed, I just move the cursor on my laptop every few minutes so Teams shows green. I hate this stupid job so much.
Never taken a sick day before but I think I might today
>I just move the cursor on my laptop every few minutes so Teams shows green.
Just install an autoclicker my dude
Sounds like people would kill to have a job like yours where you can pretend to work from your bed.
It’s B2B SaaS sales so it’s stressful and I make almost nothing if I don’t close deals, but I’m sure it’s better than working at Arby’s or whatever
Holy based. I do the same thing but don't work based on commissions so I just make money to post on Cinemaphile all day.
I work in IT as an app dev. Most of my JIRA stories are super simple changes and I have time while waiting for builds, tests, code reviews, deployments and just general laziness to frick around and watch shows, play vidya, or browse Cinemaphile all from my home too every single day. I recognize the ridiculousness of it but it's what it is so I make do.
At my last company, one of our product managers told me he spent 20-30 hours a week gaming and less than 10 actually working. He lived in a $500,000 condo and drove a Porche.
Why the frick would he ever admit that
Once you're in a position that makes six figs, you pretty much fall up perpetually. Unless you do something really fricked up or your entire industry crashes.
He was drunk and high, we were pretty good friends
ahhh, there we are
Chad alpha behavior
These days, especially in technology fields, as long as you get your work done on time and correct, no one really gives a shit what you do.
This.
It's based. No micromanaging, nobody bugging you. Just keep churning out your stories sprint by sprint without being late and you can play vidya for 30 hours a week.
>I just move the cursor on my laptop every few minutes so Teams shows green
put your mouse on a watch, the hands moving will move the cursor if your mouse is sensitive enough
go low tech
Don't those things cost a lot?
Why didn’t he just tell him no?
You don't understand Wageslave mentality, they're so scared for themselves saying no has literally been conditioned out of them
I just opened Notepad and put my airpods case on the spacebar, that should do the trick
While most offices were trying to modernize, the management had zero idea what that meant, what computers could do, how to utilize them, what to buy, etc, etc, so they kept doing a mostly useless multi-manager paper shuffle except with worse than useless technology.
For me, it’s Bismuth on the arrow keys with MS Teams open.
Keyed
Arrow keys! Why didn't I think of that, I placed a steel rod on my space key in the search bar.
He couldn't run his building/department efficiently. If he did then there wouldn't need to be layoffs.
He was the only funny character in the movie.
People keep forgetting these movies were made in a different era.
I've literally browsed Cinemaphile all day today on my phone while making 32/hr.
What job?
Janny probably