It was ok.
The more you think about it the less sense it makes, I think they should've given it some room to breathe and have stiller direct the entire thing instead of giving us dogshit filler. Excellent acting though.
This is the key difference with other mystery box shows: the filler is still enjoyable because the characters are good and watching them simply interact is fun and interesting. At the beginning you are obviously supposed to realize that, whatever the company is doing, it could be achieved more efficiently in a couple hundred ways; ultimately the characterizations and personal drama outweighs that distraction, so that's again how the show is on a different level than other ones that simply rely on the promise of eventual revelations.
fricking awesome scene. milchik is great. Portrays the patronising nature of corporate drones really well. So glad I don’t work with any c**ts like that anymore
I have it torrented, and its on my list to binge this weekend.
Just finished season 1 of "From" and it's like a better version of LOST so far.
RLM mentioned them both or I would have never heard of them.
Same here. I knew about Severance, but watched it because of Mike’s review. Had Jay said something about it, I wouldn’t have even given it a chance. Jay is the literal personification of a hipster incel. Have From on my torrent list, but haven’t downloaded it yet.
I want to add that the whole Turturro and Walken romance is vomit inducing. I’m sick of gays in every tv show these days, but seeing two old guys attracted to each other is particularly sickening. Fricking israelite Stiller.
And I’ve held off watching From right now because of the whole Black protagonist shit. I’m so sick of Black folks too.
kek i've been looking at bowie different ever since i listened to the recording of hunter biden getting super high with that stripper and she asks him who he thinks is iconic and without a beat he answers "david bowie". before talking a bunch of shit on kanye
honestly one of the more believable romances i've seem in recent media. if you cant empathise with other people's experiences to this degree, then you are probably deficient in some way
>Just finished season 1 of "From" and it's like a better version of LOST so far.
What? Literally the opposite. It's like all the bad qualities of Lost. I still watched the whole thing though. Best part is Boyd, which is funny considering his character was annoying as frick in Lost.
I also enjoyed watching the hippies get blown the frick out for being moronic enough to cram 100 people in one house.
It's pretty good, I just hope the payoff makes sense and is satisfying. I've been tricked by too many shows with interesting concepts that just shit the bed because the creator obviously never had a real plan
you didn't like the room with the goats and the statue's foot with four toes?
I think in the case of Severance it's pretty obvious that the work the innies do is completely pointless. There's no hidden meaning to it that needs to be explained, as it's implied whatever the company is up to is based on simply having these people there and keeping them occupied. That's the mystery, not the actual purpose of having them move numbers around, nurse goats, or 3D-print watering cans.
They want to uderstand human behaviour, nature. That is the point of maco data refininement, to understand human emotions. Don't have idea about the point of other departments. The point of Lumon is to understand humans, the chip can cut contiousness in half, you really think it can't do other things, like gather information?
>scary numbers >feel scared when see them
sort them based on emotions?
pretty sure it's just diagnostics and tests. MDR are basically just the human equivalent to to those cars they drive around test tracks, and leave running on a treadmill for thousands of miles, just to see how far they can go before they break
This, it seems more about control and "taking over the world" than actually doing things that normal companies do, like producing products and to sell that to the population. Or perhaps, the only job that actually matters is the stuff our main characters are doing and you need a blank mind to do that, but it still seems pointless.
My theory is that the work the innies do refining data is actually testing how to induce emotions in people. The computer knows whether or not the numbers are in the right place, and the emotuons they feel when seeing them are real, so the emotions have to be the main point
That's what I thought to. The various departments in the company are just testing out and studying severance and trying to perfect it for some greater purpose.
It will not. The only one that had a decent pay off, that Ican remember in the last like 20 years, is True Detective, and just the first season. If they had stretched it more it would have probably shit the bed. And this one is going that route.
I thought this show kicked ass. Some weak/questionable plot threads in the second half of the season, but it builds one of the most interesting settings for a show I've seen in forever.
What made Irv and Burt such a compelling relationship? Usually I hate anything gay in movies/TV shows but I loved every scene they had together. Something about it just felt a whole lot more 'real' than other media, didn't feel forced at all
It was alright, I'm more curious how they're going to continue it in the 2nd season.
Probably because they don't make a big deal of the fact that they're gay, they're just two people who share the same interest.
If they don’t do real work then why was the O&D card so important that Milchick woke Dylan up outside work? And Milchick asks Dylan if he smuggled it out. But the card has LUMON written on the back. If the code detectors were real then how would Dylan have smuggled it out?
>If the code detectors were real then how would Dylan have smuggled it out?
Maybe the code detectors can only detect text and not images.
It was alright, I'm more curious how they're going to continue it in the 2nd season.
Probably because they don't make a big deal of the fact that they're gay, they're just two people who share the same interest.
[...] >If the code detectors were real then how would Dylan have smuggled it out?
Maybe the code detectors can only detect text and not images.
pic related. looks like there's other text as well. something like the 7099-G that Burt referred to
felt this as well
I think it's because they acted like lovesick teenagers with actual personality traits rather than the usual gay couple body slam from the top rope you get in shows like this
The only nice part about it is how innie irv felt attracted to burt and paintings in general while his outie is apparently a painter of some sort. I still was disgusted with their relationship, idk i just really hate gays. Seeing two guys attracted to each other is disgusting.
Eh, my issue with it was more that the idea that two complete strangers who barely exist as human beings would fall so deeply in love with each other in such a short time and one of them would be so willing to betray the only thing he's every really cared about in all his short existence just to maybe be with an elderly Christopher Walken. Them both being homos just makes it even more ridiculous.
I have a feeling we're going to find out that their outies were also homos together and they parted ways in a depressing manner because of how ebbil and homophobic society is, or something equally hamfisted and contrived, and that's why they both individually turned to becoming severed.
Think of it more like this: The innies have only "lived" for a very short number of years. I think maybe Irv worked there the longest, but it was still probably less than a decade. On top of this, they have only "known" about half a dozen people throughout their entire life, maybe more depending on how many former MDR employees there have been. With no context of childhood or their own development, it's likely very hard to relate to other people on a deeper level, and makes sense that when Irv finds out Burt shares his passion for art, that he becomes so infatuated with him, because finally someone 'gets it'. Though they have the emotional maturity of adults, their lack of own experience would lead to it being a very similar situation where you form a relationship in like elementary//middle school with a girl you hardly know, but just like her because she's there.
>their outies were also homos together and they parted ways in a depressing manner because of how ebbil and homophobic society is
that's moronic, Burt's outie is gay married to another homo.
I'm going to argue that their attraction got perverted in the severance, and was rather something where they served together and were good friends/comrades, a relationship similarly strong to love when formed during wartime. i may be wrong and the homosexuals in the navy meme is real, but thats also kind off funny.
That's a really interesting take. I never considered that they were war buddies and their outies had a strong bond, which their innies assumed was sexual attraction because they don't have memories. That would probably be the most acceptable way of explaining their relationship.
I would say it's implied that they had some outside relationship/friendship, but doesn't Irv have Burt on that map he was making? Outie Irv, that is. If he knew him on the outside, it'd be weird for him to be lumped in with the rest of his coworkers.
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>doesn't Irv have Burt on that map he was making?
Yeah, he does. It will be interesting to see what happens when Irving switches back to outie mode because his outie knows Burt is a Lumon employee so they can talk regardless.
I think everyone just wants to see the fallout of Season 1's ending where >Helly tells everyone that Lumon sucks >Mark tells Ricken that his wife is alive >Irving went over to Burt's house
The only character switch that would mess things up is Helly because her outie is on Lumon's side.
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He had a whole list of Lumon employees actually. Burt had less data written by his name than others.
it was directed and acted in a very natural (and also believable) way. as another anon mentioned they are not hyper-feminine camp homos as compared to most gay characters in modern media
>What made Irv and Burt such a compelling relationship?
That fact they were both old made them seem more normal because homos are usually hyperhomosexuals who can't wait to tongue each others shitpipes but this is still a creepy writer's way to trying to normalize homosexualry by making you think these two nice older guys should be with each other instead of women.
I don't like gays either but what women? The old black lady in O&D? Harmony? who probably loved Mark like everyone else. There were no women. I've said it before but I think they were prison gay.
>I think they were prison gay.
When Irv visits Burt on the outside Burt's living with another old man who he kisses.
Also I don't think you'd necessarily need to go prison gay if your outie is regularly getting some, like your body chemistry would still register that you're getting pussy and you wouldn't be prison-level horny while at work- right?
If they don’t do real work then why was the O&D card so important that Milchick woke Dylan up outside work? And Milchick asks Dylan if he smuggled it out. But the card has LUMON written on the back. If the code detectors were real then how would Dylan have smuggled it out?
>if they don’t do real work
That's just a dumb meme, they are doing real work but it's deliberately abstracted from them to hide the true horror of what's actually happening when they choose a "bad" chunk of data - it deletes an off-topic thread from Cinemaphile
>they are doing real work
I have two ideas of what they actually do there. First is yes, they do actaul work, and it is deliberately nonsensical and complicated as a sort of whimsical way of depicting unimportant and mind numbing office work. Like it is literally just clicking on numbers all the time. Could be a comment on meaningless nature of corporate bureaucraucy also their quirky way of saying 'don't think about it' thay do work and it's not actually important to the actual plot what it is.
Second is that the job is meaningless within show's universe also, and not just to us the viewers. I'm pretty sure that LUMON's main focus is the severance procedure and the whole company and severance program exist purely to test this tech. Could explain why there is so much weird shit going on, they are just putting test subjects in any scenario imaginable to see if they'd remember anything
Close to perfect for a first season of a mystery/sci-fi show. I'm fully expecting it to go downhill from season 2 but that's ok, since the end of season 1 was satisfying enough for me.
I think it’s pretty clear Lumon’s goal is to have the entire world work for them. You will own no amount of work memories and you will be happy great reset type control.
Maybe it's a longshot, but given their cult-like reverence for the founder/previous CEOs I've got a feeling they finally want to plant their minds in living bodies. Would tie in with the satanic stuff, as that goal would essentially be necromancy.
Just finished it last night actually, after binging it in a few days. I really really liked it. Pretty much everything I wanted out of a TV show, interesting premise (although there was a short story online I read several years back that I wonder if this cribbed this from), likeable characters (even the bad guys), real tension and suspense and curiousity, satisfying story arc etc. Sad I'm going to have to wait a few years for season 2.
Also man Helly and Ms Casey were so fricking hot in this show. Do I just have a thing for office lady attire or were they actual bombshells?
Also did anyone find Milcheck's ass almost comical
Having watched Dollhouse back in the day I find it really odd that she plays a character that has an alternate-personality except it's still them. It's so incredibly specific that I'm surprised she's in both, anybody who's seen both shows knows what I mean.
For me it was Casey being sent down. The long narrow hallways they had for that room and the passage to the breakroom were really offputting. How does Irv know about the former?
I like that despite being noticeably fit under the office attire, Milchick still basically acted like a scared b***h during and after Dylan pouncing him.
If you get pounced by a human science experiment on the brink of his mental breaking point there is solid reason to be scared. Even weak fat humans can be surprisingly vicious animals when trapped with nothing to lose. He fricking bit him lol. I’m surprised he didn’t rip his throat out with his teeth. I think he would have killed him and ate the consequences if he didn’t have something over him. Milchik didn’t even register this until after when he gets the threat dropped on him so yeah he probably thought he was gonna die briefly. Milchik isn’t severed so he actually has something to lose
I don't even like Milchick but he wasn't being mean in that scene. He was being his usual overly optimistic self, which is why everyone was dancing (except Dylan).
The Board reminded me a bit of the video game Control. Actually a bit of the 'uncanny dated office aesthetic' reminded me of that game, although obviously this was a lot more mundane
The company founder cultist behavior, cutting-edge science, and immoral testing practices is similar to Aperture Science in Portal. And the memory loss and winding hallways is similar to Stanley Parable.
he was trying to play her to take her spot right? was probably a combination of being found out and usual wagie fear of your boss being an butthole
im unsure of his level of devotion to the Lumon cause, she seems a true believer (who wavers), whereas he just seems power hungry
I'm not so sure about that, when she gets fired she holds onto presumably her mother's hospital tags and some lumon breathing mask thing.
One of the leading theories seems to be that Cobel is working her way up to destroy Lumon from the inside, and the main cast have fricked things up for her because they've interrupted her rise.
I'm not so sure about that, when she gets fired she holds onto presumably her mother's hospital tags and some lumon breathing mask thing.
One of the leading theories seems to be that Cobel is working her way up to destroy Lumon from the inside, and the main cast have fricked things up for her because they've interrupted her rise.
The director himself confirmed she's just an overzealous cultist.
It was honestly pretty obvious from ep 1 that she would be the "Actually, I was on your side the whole time, haha!!" character. No clue as to her backstory or personal motivations though
>Actually, I was on your side the whole time, haha!!
Yeah that's why after getting fired still fricked them over when she found out they were on overtime.. You're genuinely moronic
Nah, it was pretty obvious she was a Lumon fanatic up till the point they fired her, and even after that since she got wise to the innies being out and told Milchek. The real question is whether she's going to stay loyal or if she'll decide to help the innies out of spite for Lumon. Hell, I really wonder why they just let her go like that since she obviously knows a lot about what's going on.
>Hell, I really wonder why they just let her go like that since she obviously knows a lot about what's going on.
Explosive chip at brain center of every non-severed manager
They want to pretend her experience working with the company was a success, so letting as few people know about the problems she faced was in her interest.
>Mike Scout (outie) almost runs over the heiress to the company he works at >Doesn't recognize her, doesn't get out of the car and apologize
He doesn't even know she's his boss's boss's boss?
Director said at the beginning Helly wasn't supposed to be an Aegan but after some discussions during production they decided she was because it's more interesting that she's the most motivated one to get out and she founds out she's the n.1 advocate for severance... Probably left it in there because why not
I literally give 0 shits about the corpo I work at and I know how the CEO looks because her pic gets plastered over To:All emails. Helena is at the forefront of a controversial discussion about severance procedures' legal status. She has to constantly be in TV news and newspapers that outie Scout reads. Are you dumb or just pretending?
If I worked for Exxon, yeah, most likely. I worked for a corporation called Medtronic for a little over a year back before the coofpocalypse and I saw the name and face of the CEO often enough that I have that shit memorized, against my will.
I'm pretty sure it is her but they've stripped all of her memories and personality out. Hence why she gets sent back to the testing floor to be reset, and is in this scene
>notice a high-concept sci-fi show is going to be more than one season >stop watching it because that in itself tells you the showrunners have no plan beyond milking it indefinitely
Becoming a (full-time) wagecuck genuinely destroyed my life. I started sleeping less to cope with how little free time I had, and after 6 months of sleeping 6 hours a night and finally caving and drinking free coffee at work to cope I eventually dropped to 5 hours a night and began to feel completely numb to reality. My job is utterly pointless. I've worked here 2 years now and I can't even enjoy movies sometimes without thinking "hmm I wonder what these characters do for a living" like who gives a frick. My entire conception of reality centers around wagecucking. I'm desperately trying to find a way to survive off of part-time work or at least work from home. I only make 39k a year so I'm a complete joke to women anyway. I go out in public and think, what is the point of all this shit? People just go to work, go home, play vidya, and sleep. That's my entire life. And I'm too burned out on the weekend to do anything. All my creative energy is gome.
>and after 6 months of sleeping 6 hours a night
I'm at this stage currently. I quit smoking for 2 years before taking on my wagecucking journey and i couldn't bear it. My manager is nice, i make 140k a year, the team i work with is nice, what we work on advances humanity in a way(automotive industry, i work in the design section of the brain of what will be the driver)... Still... It feels like if i could have money to do full time research into interesting shit in the field would be more fulfilling than cucking for nothing. Went through many relationships, 4 long ones(1yr+) and I'm sick of it. I want some nice girl to pump me out some kids and just enjoy my time but reality is worse than we would like. About your salary, there are women that literally don't give a frick bro. Search for a deeper meaning than that.
I used to have more free time when I worked part-time. My friend still does, and he lives with 2 trannies so his rent is 400 a month and he walks to work, grocery store, and bank. I'm tempted to join him. Why not? No woman will ever want me anyway and the woman I want will never want me back. Everything I did was subconsciously for women. Might as well castrate myself and get as close to NEET as possible.
>and after 6 months of sleeping 6 hours a night
I'm at this stage currently. I quit smoking for 2 years before taking on my wagecucking journey and i couldn't bear it. My manager is nice, i make 140k a year, the team i work with is nice, what we work on advances humanity in a way(automotive industry, i work in the design section of the brain of what will be the driver)... Still... It feels like if i could have money to do full time research into interesting shit in the field would be more fulfilling than cucking for nothing. Went through many relationships, 4 long ones(1yr+) and I'm sick of it. I want some nice girl to pump me out some kids and just enjoy my time but reality is worse than we would like. About your salary, there are women that literally don't give a frick bro. Search for a deeper meaning than that.
Wow. How do you recover after 4 long relationships that all went to shit?
>The cliffhanger at the end was pretty good too.
Cmon it wasn't. It left too much unanswered. One more episode and then make what's coming seem interesting would've been more rewarding.
I'm only halfway through but Peggy (the one writing the letter) was an employee at Lumon and even worked for MDR like the characters in Severance. Basically, she quits because her innie tells her to and she's assassinated (the outie) not long after.
A rival company's truck explodes right as Peggy's innie completes her macrodata file and so she thinks the work at MDR had something to do with it.
>The most interesting thing is the journalist who gets sent the info on Lumon has the surname Milchick.
Oh crap. I didn't even notice that. The editor is called Jim Milchick. No wonder he suggests that the letter is a waste of time; He has a brother working for Lumon.
Just finished through the whole thing
The second half of the letter is interesting, the first half is backstory. The innie communicated messages to the outie through a symbol language she created when she was young with her sister. They updated the Lumon detectors to stop that from happening anyway. Employee got suicided after quitting her job at Lumon. The innie told the outie that the handbook will explain everything if you look hard enough but i read through it and it didn't exactly say anything useful and i didn't notice anything interesting about it.
>handbook will explain everything if you look hard enough but i read through it and it didn't exactly say anything useful
neat. probably some hidden code, like first letter of each sentence or line, maybe incorrectly capitalized letters, something like that. I don't really have the attention span to even look at it tho
There's a shitton of numbers, binary and abbreviations in there but i can't be arsed lmao
Hopefully they use the handbook somehow next season or explain how the handbook could help in uncovering what Lumon is doing. Especially since the innie herself didn't indicate she knew what she was doing, so I'm not sure how she came to the conclusion that the handbook explains anything.
Read the manual part. If you're looking for clues, theres a matrix of numbers, and the same digit never appears more than twice in one row or column. Theres also an odd set of core principles, each assigned a number, and in a set order. The categories of emotions for sorting are named with two letters each.
There's comments of removing grime from under the nails, and washing hands after coming into contact with coworkers. Something about pathogens/diseases.
Also, does anyone have a clearer pic of page 8? I'm sure there's something worthwhile here
An idea: relating the numbers in the matrix some way to the letters in the principles.
Whether by the number in the matrix itself, and then the distance of the number being the letter from the left in one of the words, or anything similar
Don't forget the Lumon branded soap.
They could be collecting everything that is washed off of the person's hands, and the soap aids this by keeping the chemicals pure or whatever. This would explain why it wants them to wash so often
Overall plot introduced a bunch of great concepts and ideas and then barely expanded on any of them
The only way for me to fully enjoy the show is if I outright speculate and imagine all the cool potential things which might happen - which then don't happen in the show.
Still don't know why theres a goat room, peteys map details, the shadowy group fighting the megacorp, what the megacorp actually does, what the employees were actually doing (apart from being guinea pigs. Petey mentions that they're killing people everyday)
Basically the show shits out loose threads constantly and then never fulfills any of them. It's just sequel bait, which im confident won't live up to the expectations. ESPECIALLY now that there's actual hype surrounding the show, which just consists of redditors spewing theories and making somewhat interesting stories up - instead of the show actually containing these stories. The showrunners will just steal whatever theories they like from reddit, because they're making shit up as they go.
People like you who just "want the story to move forward" are filtered. Care about the ride, not the destination. I'm still glad I watched Lost despite the ending.
People like you who just "want the story to move forward" are filtered. Care about the ride, not the destination. I'm still glad I watched Lost despite the ending.
>muh hecking baby goat room
Easiest way to spot a pleb.
>cons
the gay subplot. BUT Tuturro and Walken execute excellent performances. I saw Tuturro in The Batman (2022) and then this and the range is amazing.
In addition, the somewhat clever series engages the audience with Walken's character through the fact that he possesses information and that information is interesting because it explains Lumon and its rules.
probably is a pastiche. Lumon is a reflection of the old school United States corporate culture. For me, is even a jab on IBM: that good old company that wrote songs to immortalize its employees.
Okay, well, I finished the second half and it's just a guidebook for MDR employees on how to perform their jobs and also rules like having to wash your hands 10 times a day and avoiding other departments. Only the actual letter was interesting.
What's more interesting is when I watched To Live and Die in LA recently and it had Irving from Severance.
I believe Michael Chernus makes a such much better job in this one that in Patriot (2015), but a lot of the onus falls on Patriot's script. The writers in Severance know what they are talking about. In Patriot I got the impression that the game between politics and intelligence was a fantasy serving the main character.
What caught my attention the most is how the book has absolutely incorrect information, but what is important is what people take away from what they read. It is a lesson in humility for...a well defined set of people.
What did Cobel exactly ask Milchik about running a 266 on MDR? I don't get it, it's when he printed the cannibalism photos, what the frick was that about
266 must mean propaganda to cause strife between departments so they avoid each other. MDR was sent artwork of murderous O&D employees and O&D had the same thing with MDR employees.
I feel they couldn't wrap it up but that it needed 1 or 2 more episodes to keep me interested. Instead it's just fricking annoying. They could go on for another season and explore other departments, understand what they're doing etc... But for now the innies seem like dead weight, Lumon should just fire all 4 of them and suicide them randomly, i can't think of any reason why Lumon should put up with their mutiny. Unless the goal of this expirement is to create the most docile employees in existence and are improving as people go more crazy
this is the correct course initially. but the "diverse" cast helps to recognize the characters easily in this bland setting. otherwise, you're still correct.
I wasn't planning on it. Cinemaphile said avoid S2, so avoid it I will.
Think of it more like this: The innies have only "lived" for a very short number of years. I think maybe Irv worked there the longest, but it was still probably less than a decade. On top of this, they have only "known" about half a dozen people throughout their entire life, maybe more depending on how many former MDR employees there have been. With no context of childhood or their own development, it's likely very hard to relate to other people on a deeper level, and makes sense that when Irv finds out Burt shares his passion for art, that he becomes so infatuated with him, because finally someone 'gets it'. Though they have the emotional maturity of adults, their lack of own experience would lead to it being a very similar situation where you form a relationship in like elementary//middle school with a girl you hardly know, but just like her because she's there.
>I think maybe Irv worked there the longest
I think he said 4 years.
I liked it but I can tell from a mile away that this show is going to shit the bed hard the moment it has to actually start explaining things. The cult aspects already seem kind of goofy as it is.
The cult aspect is an obvious parody of how corporations try to pretend to their workers that they are "a family" and train workers to feel loyalty and like they have a stake in the company's success.
That's something really nice about the show. It was always night on the outside because that's when they finish work. You have the colourful office and then the beautiful night time outside.
2 years ago
Anonymous
and only afterwards i noticed helly is wearing only lumon colors
2 years ago
Anonymous
>helly is wearing only lumon colors
What do you mean by that? Do you mean she's following the dress code?
2 years ago
Anonymous
and only afterwards i noticed helly is wearing only lumon colors
Also Irv is breaking dress code with his patterned tie. You could put a code in a series of distinctly coloured bars/stripes. Like some kind of bar/stripe code... And regardless of the utility of such a code system, the manual (which he has memorized) clearly states solid, patternless garments only.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Maybe it's uh... representing the fact that his outie doesn't nearly have as much faith in Lumon as his innie. The outie is the one that dresses for work and he's doing all kinds of research about the company.
2 years ago
Anonymous
He's been there three years, his outie would have been reprimanded for this by this point, if the code detectors didn't flag it right away. I've successfully spotted a plot hole, squirming won't change this.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Also Mark's tie is patterned here too.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The Lexington letter included the handbook from an employee in a different office from an unspecified time. Likely before the show because the code detectors weren't good enough to pick up the language she made as a kid. It's possible they upgraded the code detectors enough to allow for a wider dress code.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah that's possible.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Code detectors presumably don't detect code, that would be impossible. Although, that's unlikely to stop a writer from writing it anyway. But I assume they detect you knowing that you're trying to smuggle out a code. All the whack shit they're doing to those people's brains, they could identify whatever brain pattern that deception exhibits and then trigger on that.
Although, that would make it easy to sneak out a code by, instead of shoving it up your own butthole, planting it on someone who was unaware of it.
Unless the detectors are also triggered by your knowledge that someone else is smuggling out a code.
They should put a code in a box and then make it randomly spit out either the code or a blank page, and then go through the detectors to see what happens.
Most people with corporate jobs are literally a different person while at work. I made the mistake of going out for drinks with the people in my department once and it completely ruined the dynamic we had and I had to fricking transfer to a different branch.
was polite of her to inexplicably stop caring so that we could free up screentime for the gay's plotline instead
2 years ago
Anonymous
>was polite of her to inexplicably stop caring
About what? The goats? Lol.
2 years ago
Anonymous
moronic spammer shill
2 years ago
Anonymous
You call me a shill but you're not even smart enough to check the filenames to see that I pirated the show. Reply to me after I hide your post and add to the 90% of the board I have filtered that're bots and actual shills.
2 years ago
Anonymous
shilling not apple; your own pathetic obsession
2 years ago
Anonymous
based esl moron. people like you make me look good in comparison. thanks.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The should release the source code of Lumon technology on the show.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Bro there's no actual working program. It's just a video.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I only have the stuff I made and it's not much.
God I love skirts and blouses. Peak female attire.
It's a great show but I doubt season 2 can retain the quality. They already broke their conditioning. Are they going to be moved to a department? Are we getting new characters? I believe any new addition will only go further from the initial premise. I'd preferred even a bad ending, the innies get erased and the world hasn't changed.
Good but pretty highly overrated. Everything is fairly surface level even the mysteries like the waffle parties and the goats and what the computers are actually used for, are cool but not that thought provoking. A lot of episodes meander and just have 15 minutes of Dylan fricking SEETHING at Christopher Walkin, which was annoying as frick how much time was devoted to this
Think about how fricked up it would be if your innie was gay and you weren't- like imagine going home from work and your butthole just inexplicably aches.
A woman probably wrote the Burt and Irving relationship. The kind of woman who thinks Frodo and Sam are gay.
>I think they were prison gay.
When Irv visits Burt on the outside Burt's living with another old man who he kisses.
Also I don't think you'd necessarily need to go prison gay if your outie is regularly getting some, like your body chemistry would still register that you're getting pussy and you wouldn't be prison-level horny while at work- right?
>Also I don't think you'd necessarily need to go prison gay if your outie is regularly getting some
Correct, which is why Dylan wasn't gay even though none of the women at work like him.
>Friendship. Simple, flat and pure friendship is enough.
Yeah. I was thinking about this after the last Orville episode. There was a similar set-up that cried homosexual relationship but it was revealed in the same scene that they were best friends and i was somewhat shocked thats still a thing. It should be at least.
This. When they touched hands it was so out of left field I thought it's just their autistic innie behavior showing. But no, they were actually gay lol.
It kind of makes me mad that this show is already reaching a cult status... It's fricking soulless... >terrible acting mostly >quirky art direction >plot filled with holes >le_EViL_cOrPORaTiON but in a commercial and mass appealing way >mystery box which will not satisfy anyone in the end
It's exact type of show which appeals to redditors, unironically.
I referred to the art direction and directing with the soulless, obviously they're going for soulless, but it's so in the face and there's no play with sound, visuals, any original piece of setting or anything like that.
I referred to the art direction and directing with the soulless, obviously they're going for soulless, but it's so in the face and there's no play with sound, visuals, any original piece of setting or anything like that.
Also, there's no second dimension to it. A huge improvement would be if they would dig more in to the soul/soulless division, but there's simply no other side. It's just "look this le_minimalism, old technology = soulless", "it's always dark when the protagonist is home = work eats your life, how deep".
>"it's always dark when the protagonist is home = work eats your life, how deep".
Well, it's true. You don't have to be a lib or a commie to understand that modern working life is completely fricked. We're not meant to live like this and the whole concept of being an "employee" (i.e. trading some fixed number of hours per week for a wage) is a modern contrivance. And like most modern contrivances, it's a mistake.
>mystery box which will not satisfy anyone in the end
I agree with this one. Mystery boxes are complex to make. The only series that delivered the box was Devs (2020).
you're thinking of legitimate mysteries. mystery boxes, by definition, only have other mystery boxes inside.
take it from a jaded GRRM fan that there is absolutely no reason at all to think a showrunner knows what the answer to a question they raise is if they don't answer it within one season.
It was ok.
The more you think about it the less sense it makes, I think they should've given it some room to breathe and have stiller direct the entire thing instead of giving us dogshit filler. Excellent acting though.
you smug motherfricker
This is the key difference with other mystery box shows: the filler is still enjoyable because the characters are good and watching them simply interact is fun and interesting. At the beginning you are obviously supposed to realize that, whatever the company is doing, it could be achieved more efficiently in a couple hundred ways; ultimately the characterizations and personal drama outweighs that distraction, so that's again how the show is on a different level than other ones that simply rely on the promise of eventual revelations.
fricking awesome scene. milchik is great. Portrays the patronising nature of corporate drones really well. So glad I don’t work with any c**ts like that anymore
Yeah but you live with your parents.
How did you escape the mill. Pls anon I need help.
>The more you think about it the less sense it makes
You have no personality if this is your criticism.
It's ok if you send your split consciousness off to do the task of watching a television show. But don't have us give you an opinion too
lol
I have it torrented, and its on my list to binge this weekend.
Just finished season 1 of "From" and it's like a better version of LOST so far.
RLM mentioned them both or I would have never heard of them.
Are you me? I just finished From last weekend and enjoyed it. Also Severance and enjoyed that too. Also from torrent. Also based on RLM mentioning it.
me three homosexuals, from is pretty based, also watching invasion from apple tv, not bad not great
ohhhhhhhh, makes sense
Same here. I knew about Severance, but watched it because of Mike’s review. Had Jay said something about it, I wouldn’t have even given it a chance. Jay is the literal personification of a hipster incel. Have From on my torrent list, but haven’t downloaded it yet.
I want to add that the whole Turturro and Walken romance is vomit inducing. I’m sick of gays in every tv show these days, but seeing two old guys attracted to each other is particularly sickening. Fricking israelite Stiller.
And I’ve held off watching From right now because of the whole Black protagonist shit. I’m so sick of Black folks too.
Boyd is literally the best character in From.
Go touch some grass. This isn't healthy
kek i've been looking at bowie different ever since i listened to the recording of hunter biden getting super high with that stripper and she asks him who he thinks is iconic and without a beat he answers "david bowie". before talking a bunch of shit on kanye
People are giving you shit but it is really repugnant, no idea about From.
honestly one of the more believable romances i've seem in recent media. if you cant empathise with other people's experiences to this degree, then you are probably deficient in some way
t. heterosexual
>Just finished season 1 of "From" and it's like a better version of LOST so far.
What? Literally the opposite. It's like all the bad qualities of Lost. I still watched the whole thing though. Best part is Boyd, which is funny considering his character was annoying as frick in Lost.
I also enjoyed watching the hippies get blown the frick out for being moronic enough to cram 100 people in one house.
It's pretty good, I just hope the payoff makes sense and is satisfying. I've been tricked by too many shows with interesting concepts that just shit the bed because the creator obviously never had a real plan
Mr milchick is based too
you didn't like the room with the goats and the statue's foot with four toes?
>I just hope the payoff makes sense and is satisfying
Not going to happen in post-Lost tv series era.
I think in the case of Severance it's pretty obvious that the work the innies do is completely pointless. There's no hidden meaning to it that needs to be explained, as it's implied whatever the company is up to is based on simply having these people there and keeping them occupied. That's the mystery, not the actual purpose of having them move numbers around, nurse goats, or 3D-print watering cans.
They want to uderstand human behaviour, nature. That is the point of maco data refininement, to understand human emotions. Don't have idea about the point of other departments. The point of Lumon is to understand humans, the chip can cut contiousness in half, you really think it can't do other things, like gather information?
>the numbers are their outties brain information
BRAVO
>scary numbers
>feel scared when see them
sort them based on emotions?
pretty sure it's just diagnostics and tests. MDR are basically just the human equivalent to to those cars they drive around test tracks, and leave running on a treadmill for thousands of miles, just to see how far they can go before they break
This, it seems more about control and "taking over the world" than actually doing things that normal companies do, like producing products and to sell that to the population. Or perhaps, the only job that actually matters is the stuff our main characters are doing and you need a blank mind to do that, but it still seems pointless.
My theory is that the work the innies do refining data is actually testing how to induce emotions in people. The computer knows whether or not the numbers are in the right place, and the emotuons they feel when seeing them are real, so the emotions have to be the main point
That's what I thought to. The various departments in the company are just testing out and studying severance and trying to perfect it for some greater purpose.
>Mr milchick is based too
Frick you Mr Milchick.
It will not. The only one that had a decent pay off, that Ican remember in the last like 20 years, is True Detective, and just the first season. If they had stretched it more it would have probably shit the bed. And this one is going that route.
>bro everything is shit even though it didn't come out yet it'll be shit for sure do i fit in yet? This site is for nihilists right? guys?
You are sperging out anon. Imagining things.
I thought this show kicked ass. Some weak/questionable plot threads in the second half of the season, but it builds one of the most interesting settings for a show I've seen in forever.
What made Irv and Burt such a compelling relationship? Usually I hate anything gay in movies/TV shows but I loved every scene they had together. Something about it just felt a whole lot more 'real' than other media, didn't feel forced at all
It was alright, I'm more curious how they're going to continue it in the 2nd season.
Probably because they don't make a big deal of the fact that they're gay, they're just two people who share the same interest.
>If the code detectors were real then how would Dylan have smuggled it out?
Maybe the code detectors can only detect text and not images.
the card has an image on the front and says LUMON on the back
pic related. looks like there's other text as well. something like the 7099-G that Burt referred to
It could be an allowed word/image, their keycards have some text on them don't they?
felt this as well
I think it's because they acted like lovesick teenagers with actual personality traits rather than the usual gay couple body slam from the top rope you get in shows like this
The only nice part about it is how innie irv felt attracted to burt and paintings in general while his outie is apparently a painter of some sort. I still was disgusted with their relationship, idk i just really hate gays. Seeing two guys attracted to each other is disgusting.
Yeah maybe if they were two young cute twinks and not old guys
No.. It's just the fact that two males are attracted to each other is what's repulsing
Eh, my issue with it was more that the idea that two complete strangers who barely exist as human beings would fall so deeply in love with each other in such a short time and one of them would be so willing to betray the only thing he's every really cared about in all his short existence just to maybe be with an elderly Christopher Walken. Them both being homos just makes it even more ridiculous.
I have a feeling we're going to find out that their outies were also homos together and they parted ways in a depressing manner because of how ebbil and homophobic society is, or something equally hamfisted and contrived, and that's why they both individually turned to becoming severed.
Think of it more like this: The innies have only "lived" for a very short number of years. I think maybe Irv worked there the longest, but it was still probably less than a decade. On top of this, they have only "known" about half a dozen people throughout their entire life, maybe more depending on how many former MDR employees there have been. With no context of childhood or their own development, it's likely very hard to relate to other people on a deeper level, and makes sense that when Irv finds out Burt shares his passion for art, that he becomes so infatuated with him, because finally someone 'gets it'. Though they have the emotional maturity of adults, their lack of own experience would lead to it being a very similar situation where you form a relationship in like elementary//middle school with a girl you hardly know, but just like her because she's there.
Nah, the other severed we see don't seem to be developing any kind of similar infatuation. Also homosexuality is deeply unnatural.
t. a homo
>Also homosexuality is deeply unnatural.
You're objectively wrong, doesn't matter how self hating you are
He must secretly wanna frick spiders 😉
>their outies were also homos together and they parted ways in a depressing manner because of how ebbil and homophobic society is
that's moronic, Burt's outie is gay married to another homo.
I'm going to argue that their attraction got perverted in the severance, and was rather something where they served together and were good friends/comrades, a relationship similarly strong to love when formed during wartime. i may be wrong and the homosexuals in the navy meme is real, but thats also kind off funny.
That's a really interesting take. I never considered that they were war buddies and their outies had a strong bond, which their innies assumed was sexual attraction because they don't have memories. That would probably be the most acceptable way of explaining their relationship.
I would say it's implied that they had some outside relationship/friendship, but doesn't Irv have Burt on that map he was making? Outie Irv, that is. If he knew him on the outside, it'd be weird for him to be lumped in with the rest of his coworkers.
>doesn't Irv have Burt on that map he was making?
Yeah, he does. It will be interesting to see what happens when Irving switches back to outie mode because his outie knows Burt is a Lumon employee so they can talk regardless.
I think everyone just wants to see the fallout of Season 1's ending where
>Helly tells everyone that Lumon sucks
>Mark tells Ricken that his wife is alive
>Irving went over to Burt's house
The only character switch that would mess things up is Helly because her outie is on Lumon's side.
He had a whole list of Lumon employees actually. Burt had less data written by his name than others.
>didn't actually have to see Turturro kiss Walkin
Quite grateful, that would have been a bridge too far for me.
it was directed and acted in a very natural (and also believable) way. as another anon mentioned they are not hyper-feminine camp homos as compared to most gay characters in modern media
>What made Irv and Burt such a compelling relationship?
That fact they were both old made them seem more normal because homos are usually hyperhomosexuals who can't wait to tongue each others shitpipes but this is still a creepy writer's way to trying to normalize homosexualry by making you think these two nice older guys should be with each other instead of women.
I don't like gays either but what women? The old black lady in O&D? Harmony? who probably loved Mark like everyone else. There were no women. I've said it before but I think they were prison gay.
>I think they were prison gay.
When Irv visits Burt on the outside Burt's living with another old man who he kisses.
Also I don't think you'd necessarily need to go prison gay if your outie is regularly getting some, like your body chemistry would still register that you're getting pussy and you wouldn't be prison-level horny while at work- right?
You thought it dragged on a bit too much and would have made a better episode of Black Mirror than entire series unto itself.
>Black Memeor
go back
If they don’t do real work then why was the O&D card so important that Milchick woke Dylan up outside work? And Milchick asks Dylan if he smuggled it out. But the card has LUMON written on the back. If the code detectors were real then how would Dylan have smuggled it out?
The thing is he never smuggled it out, it was at Lumon the entire time. But is understandable that they are concerned the detection could have failed.
>if they don’t do real work
That's just a dumb meme, they are doing real work but it's deliberately abstracted from them to hide the true horror of what's actually happening when they choose a "bad" chunk of data - it deletes an off-topic thread from Cinemaphile
>they are doing real work
I have two ideas of what they actually do there. First is yes, they do actaul work, and it is deliberately nonsensical and complicated as a sort of whimsical way of depicting unimportant and mind numbing office work. Like it is literally just clicking on numbers all the time. Could be a comment on meaningless nature of corporate bureaucraucy also their quirky way of saying 'don't think about it' thay do work and it's not actually important to the actual plot what it is.
Second is that the job is meaningless within show's universe also, and not just to us the viewers. I'm pretty sure that LUMON's main focus is the severance procedure and the whole company and severance program exist purely to test this tech. Could explain why there is so much weird shit going on, they are just putting test subjects in any scenario imaginable to see if they'd remember anything
Patricia Arquette's character does mention the last part.
That's pretty stupid.
Close to perfect for a first season of a mystery/sci-fi show. I'm fully expecting it to go downhill from season 2 but that's ok, since the end of season 1 was satisfying enough for me.
Can someone post the gif of Helly R spitting out a (you)?
I think it’s pretty clear Lumon’s goal is to have the entire world work for them. You will own no amount of work memories and you will be happy great reset type control.
Maybe it's a longshot, but given their cult-like reverence for the founder/previous CEOs I've got a feeling they finally want to plant their minds in living bodies. Would tie in with the satanic stuff, as that goal would essentially be necromancy.
This show got real fricking kino in its final few episodes.
Just finished it last night actually, after binging it in a few days. I really really liked it. Pretty much everything I wanted out of a TV show, interesting premise (although there was a short story online I read several years back that I wonder if this cribbed this from), likeable characters (even the bad guys), real tension and suspense and curiousity, satisfying story arc etc. Sad I'm going to have to wait a few years for season 2.
Also man Helly and Ms Casey were so fricking hot in this show. Do I just have a thing for office lady attire or were they actual bombshells?
Also did anyone find Milcheck's ass almost comical
agree, Milcheck's the real bombshell
>Helly and Ms Casey
Devon activated my almonds so fricking bad
She's so cute and perfect
A lot of black guys have voluptuous asses. It's the glutes that give them their speed and acceleration.
>i watch it for she
what race is this
she was so pretty in autism mode
Nepalese 3/4 hapa iirc.
she was hot in that shitty cyberpunk flick, but she's getting too old now
fix'd
Jesus. It's hard to believe that the original isn't photoshopped. I like Ms Casey but I don't like her because of her appearance.
is it called Severance because the top half of her head is slowly attempting to sever itself from the bottom?
Having watched Dollhouse back in the day I find it really odd that she plays a character that has an alternate-personality except it's still them. It's so incredibly specific that I'm surprised she's in both, anybody who's seen both shows knows what I mean.
I watch it for she
Nice
>for she
ugly long faced chink mutt
>daddy.....daddy...
Legitimately one of the most chilling scenes iv seen in a long time. I really hope S2 can keep the momentum.
For me it was Casey being sent down. The long narrow hallways they had for that room and the passage to the breakroom were really offputting. How does Irv know about the former?
I like that despite being noticeably fit under the office attire, Milchick still basically acted like a scared b***h during and after Dylan pouncing him.
If you get pounced by a human science experiment on the brink of his mental breaking point there is solid reason to be scared. Even weak fat humans can be surprisingly vicious animals when trapped with nothing to lose. He fricking bit him lol. I’m surprised he didn’t rip his throat out with his teeth. I think he would have killed him and ate the consequences if he didn’t have something over him. Milchik didn’t even register this until after when he gets the threat dropped on him so yeah he probably thought he was gonna die briefly. Milchik isn’t severed so he actually has something to lose
Can Milchek not read people or does he just not care?
I don't even like Milchick but he wasn't being mean in that scene. He was being his usual overly optimistic self, which is why everyone was dancing (except Dylan).
Doing a goofy dance at somebody whose clearly seething is not advisable.
Well, I think he was being a party pooper because everyone else was having fun.
He doesn't care about innies. They are just stupid children for him.
He probably doesn't see them as people. The same way that if you worked with like 5 year olds, yeah they people but not completely.
If I worked with 5-6 foot tall 100-240 lb five-year-olds I'd be careful as hell about their feelings.
The Board reminded me a bit of the video game Control. Actually a bit of the 'uncanny dated office aesthetic' reminded me of that game, although obviously this was a lot more mundane
The company founder cultist behavior, cutting-edge science, and immoral testing practices is similar to Aperture Science in Portal. And the memory loss and winding hallways is similar to Stanley Parable.
>tv show takes inspiration from video games
that doesn't happen very often. its odd that people haven't really noticed it
We all noticed moron.
Same. The board in this show was eerily similar to the board (or whatever it was called) from control. I wonder if they took any inspiration from it.
I've been an office drone for 7 years and this show was too real
Did anyone notice how mikchik was shitting his pants at times when talking to Cobel? I still don't get it
he was trying to play her to take her spot right? was probably a combination of being found out and usual wagie fear of your boss being an butthole
im unsure of his level of devotion to the Lumon cause, she seems a true believer (who wavers), whereas he just seems power hungry
>she seems a true believer (who wavers),
I'm not so sure about that, when she gets fired she holds onto presumably her mother's hospital tags and some lumon breathing mask thing.
One of the leading theories seems to be that Cobel is working her way up to destroy Lumon from the inside, and the main cast have fricked things up for her because they've interrupted her rise.
I missed off the first paragraph. I think the lumon medical equipment killed her mum
The director himself confirmed she's just an overzealous cultist.
It was honestly pretty obvious from ep 1 that she would be the "Actually, I was on your side the whole time, haha!!" character. No clue as to her backstory or personal motivations though
>Actually, I was on your side the whole time, haha!!
Yeah that's why after getting fired still fricked them over when she found out they were on overtime.. You're genuinely moronic
She literally had a lunon shrine, she was full on koolaid cultist
Nah, it was pretty obvious she was a Lumon fanatic up till the point they fired her, and even after that since she got wise to the innies being out and told Milchek. The real question is whether she's going to stay loyal or if she'll decide to help the innies out of spite for Lumon. Hell, I really wonder why they just let her go like that since she obviously knows a lot about what's going on.
>Hell, I really wonder why they just let her go like that since she obviously knows a lot about what's going on.
Explosive chip at brain center of every non-severed manager
The fact that she got fired so easily could suggest the work they do isn't really that important
Why did the board took so long to find out about Helly R suicide attempt? Did Helly's outie kept it hidden?
Yes and also Harmony never told anyone
Actually that is a bit of a question, I'd assume that the Eagans and the board are aligned, but maybe not.
Yeah seems like helly cares more about severance than her own life so she wouldn't want to frick it up.
They want to pretend her experience working with the company was a success, so letting as few people know about the problems she faced was in her interest.
>you will never get MDE or waffle party in your job
What bonus reward item you picking lads?
For me it’s the finger trap
Lit rotating display
I want whatever this was
yeah the furies are pretty sweet, but they come with the waffle party.
Is sex.
Man, the show was great, but Helly is so fricking sexy. Her walk especially, the way she swings her hips...
Bud that's my wife you're talking about.
>Helly is so fricking sexy. Her walk especially, the way she swings her hips...
frick man I knowwwwww
Real question, would you stick with Helly or go back to Mrs Casey?
Casey for me
Helly for sure. Ms Casey is a defunct automaton.. She might bite off your dick as a joke
>She might bite off your dick as a joke
worth it
Helly
I would frick her like a piñata.
>Mike Scout (outie) almost runs over the heiress to the company he works at
>Doesn't recognize her, doesn't get out of the car and apologize
He doesn't even know she's his boss's boss's boss?
>Mike
Mark*
Director said at the beginning Helly wasn't supposed to be an Aegan but after some discussions during production they decided she was because it's more interesting that she's the most motivated one to get out and she founds out she's the n.1 advocate for severance... Probably left it in there because why not
Does the average McDonald's employee know what the CEO looks like?
I've never worked there but this dude seems quite memorable.
>Put that coffee down! Coffee's for closers only. You think I'm fricking with you? I am not fricking with you
Is the CEO of McD's in the center of public attention like Helena Eagan is?
Gun to your head, do you really think you could you pick the CEO of Exon out of a line up to save your life?
I literally give 0 shits about the corpo I work at and I know how the CEO looks because her pic gets plastered over To:All emails. Helena is at the forefront of a controversial discussion about severance procedures' legal status. She has to constantly be in TV news and newspapers that outie Scout reads. Are you dumb or just pretending?
The main guy's sister didn't even recognize the senator of her state...
State Senator. Not nearly as prominent a position.
assistant TO the manager
The vast majority of Americans don't even know the name of the mayor of their town, let alone the face of one of their senators.
If I worked for Exxon, yeah, most likely. I worked for a corporation called Medtronic for a little over a year back before the coofpocalypse and I saw the name and face of the CEO often enough that I have that shit memorized, against my will.
Frick you Omar Ishrak.
*actual spoiler*
le wife isn't dead plot twist
that's a yikes from me
The assumption is that it's not actually a ((real)) her. Just a way to test him - like the candle. But yeah it was cringe regardless.
I'm pretty sure it is her but they've stripped all of her memories and personality out. Hence why she gets sent back to the testing floor to be reset, and is in this scene
I'm betting she was comatose after the accident and Lumon had her declared dead, then chipped her to create a blank from scratch as a test subject.
If your thoughts were positive then you're the self-aware moron Mitchell & Webb joked about in their reality tv sketch.
>notice a high-concept sci-fi show is going to be more than one season
>stop watching it because that in itself tells you the showrunners have no plan beyond milking it indefinitely
it's that simple
link it or make it easier to find
Becoming a (full-time) wagecuck genuinely destroyed my life. I started sleeping less to cope with how little free time I had, and after 6 months of sleeping 6 hours a night and finally caving and drinking free coffee at work to cope I eventually dropped to 5 hours a night and began to feel completely numb to reality. My job is utterly pointless. I've worked here 2 years now and I can't even enjoy movies sometimes without thinking "hmm I wonder what these characters do for a living" like who gives a frick. My entire conception of reality centers around wagecucking. I'm desperately trying to find a way to survive off of part-time work or at least work from home. I only make 39k a year so I'm a complete joke to women anyway. I go out in public and think, what is the point of all this shit? People just go to work, go home, play vidya, and sleep. That's my entire life. And I'm too burned out on the weekend to do anything. All my creative energy is gome.
nice blog bro
get a gf and get bennies
Start lifting bro
I am..it doesn't help.
If I get a gf she will leave me if I am on bennies.
>and after 6 months of sleeping 6 hours a night
I'm at this stage currently. I quit smoking for 2 years before taking on my wagecucking journey and i couldn't bear it. My manager is nice, i make 140k a year, the team i work with is nice, what we work on advances humanity in a way(automotive industry, i work in the design section of the brain of what will be the driver)... Still... It feels like if i could have money to do full time research into interesting shit in the field would be more fulfilling than cucking for nothing. Went through many relationships, 4 long ones(1yr+) and I'm sick of it. I want some nice girl to pump me out some kids and just enjoy my time but reality is worse than we would like. About your salary, there are women that literally don't give a frick bro. Search for a deeper meaning than that.
Everything this guys posted is wrong, don't listen to him.
If you're single without kids, you're never going to have as much free time as you have now, until you retire.
I used to have more free time when I worked part-time. My friend still does, and he lives with 2 trannies so his rent is 400 a month and he walks to work, grocery store, and bank. I'm tempted to join him. Why not? No woman will ever want me anyway and the woman I want will never want me back. Everything I did was subconsciously for women. Might as well castrate myself and get as close to NEET as possible.
Wow. How do you recover after 4 long relationships that all went to shit?
You have no right to complain about your income level if you're making more than 30k a year
You're fine
I get paid 50k and I only work half the year.
What job? I'd give anything for that.
Season 2 when?
It been approved, but no date yet. Probably next year.
Its like they ripped off black mirror themes but tried to pad and drag a single episode into several seasons with no charisma.
I thought it was kino, especially that weird ritual mask dance thing at the end. Wonder what was going on there
Is plain and simple sex, but in the corporate universe of Lumon is a ritual you have to earn.
It was good. The cliffhanger at the end was pretty good too.
>The cliffhanger at the end was pretty good too.
Cmon it wasn't. It left too much unanswered. One more episode and then make what's coming seem interesting would've been more rewarding.
Frick outies. Kill slaveowners.
https://imgur.com/a/GOiKxEa
anyone read this? TLDR?
Wow
thanks for sharing
I'm reading rn and it's kino
Go for it anon
I'm only halfway through but Peggy (the one writing the letter) was an employee at Lumon and even worked for MDR like the characters in Severance. Basically, she quits because her innie tells her to and she's assassinated (the outie) not long after.
A rival company's truck explodes right as Peggy's innie completes her macrodata file and so she thinks the work at MDR had something to do with it.
The most interesting thing is the journalist who gets sent the info on Lumon has the surname Milchick.
Which suggests Milchick has a family member who's a major journalist in the newspapers, and that explains why the leak never got made public
>The most interesting thing is the journalist who gets sent the info on Lumon has the surname Milchick.
Oh crap. I didn't even notice that. The editor is called Jim Milchick. No wonder he suggests that the letter is a waste of time; He has a brother working for Lumon.
RIP
Or maybe that's Milchik's fake job like with Cobel being a part time baker.
Oh... it's possible. We never actually learn Mr Milchick's given name.
Just finished through the whole thing
The second half of the letter is interesting, the first half is backstory. The innie communicated messages to the outie through a symbol language she created when she was young with her sister. They updated the Lumon detectors to stop that from happening anyway. Employee got suicided after quitting her job at Lumon. The innie told the outie that the handbook will explain everything if you look hard enough but i read through it and it didn't exactly say anything useful and i didn't notice anything interesting about it.
>handbook will explain everything if you look hard enough but i read through it and it didn't exactly say anything useful
neat. probably some hidden code, like first letter of each sentence or line, maybe incorrectly capitalized letters, something like that. I don't really have the attention span to even look at it tho
There's a shitton of numbers, binary and abbreviations in there but i can't be arsed lmao
Hopefully they use the handbook somehow next season or explain how the handbook could help in uncovering what Lumon is doing. Especially since the innie herself didn't indicate she knew what she was doing, so I'm not sure how she came to the conclusion that the handbook explains anything.
Read the manual part. If you're looking for clues, theres a matrix of numbers, and the same digit never appears more than twice in one row or column. Theres also an odd set of core principles, each assigned a number, and in a set order. The categories of emotions for sorting are named with two letters each.
There's comments of removing grime from under the nails, and washing hands after coming into contact with coworkers. Something about pathogens/diseases.
Also, does anyone have a clearer pic of page 8? I'm sure there's something worthwhile here
An idea: relating the numbers in the matrix some way to the letters in the principles.
Whether by the number in the matrix itself, and then the distance of the number being the letter from the left in one of the words, or anything similar
Do you mean this?
Thanks anon previous anon was moronic
Don't forget the Lumon branded soap.
They could be collecting everything that is washed off of the person's hands, and the soap aids this by keeping the chemicals pure or whatever. This would explain why it wants them to wash so often
Does the first season complete itself or it end on a season 2 "cliffhanger"?
Why do they keeping making multiple seasons show? Don't they understand suicidal people live day by day.
It ends on a cliffhanger.
Thanks bro I just got cucked by Tokyo Vice. Gotta keep watching old series I guess
Overall plot introduced a bunch of great concepts and ideas and then barely expanded on any of them
The only way for me to fully enjoy the show is if I outright speculate and imagine all the cool potential things which might happen - which then don't happen in the show.
Still don't know why theres a goat room, peteys map details, the shadowy group fighting the megacorp, what the megacorp actually does, what the employees were actually doing (apart from being guinea pigs. Petey mentions that they're killing people everyday)
Basically the show shits out loose threads constantly and then never fulfills any of them. It's just sequel bait, which im confident won't live up to the expectations. ESPECIALLY now that there's actual hype surrounding the show, which just consists of redditors spewing theories and making somewhat interesting stories up - instead of the show actually containing these stories. The showrunners will just steal whatever theories they like from reddit, because they're making shit up as they go.
People like you who just "want the story to move forward" are filtered. Care about the ride, not the destination. I'm still glad I watched Lost despite the ending.
>Care about the ride, not the destination.
especially because we need you not to cancel Apple TV+. honestly the ride can go on forever as long as you please, please don't do that.
bro everyone here torrents
go back
I subscribe to 6 streaming services. Does that trigger you?
>muh hecking baby goat room
Easiest way to spot a pleb.
>cons
the gay subplot. BUT Tuturro and Walken execute excellent performances. I saw Tuturro in The Batman (2022) and then this and the range is amazing.
In addition, the somewhat clever series engages the audience with Walken's character through the fact that he possesses information and that information is interesting because it explains Lumon and its rules.
Why are the lakes in the shape of the Great Lakes?
probably is a pastiche. Lumon is a reflection of the old school United States corporate culture. For me, is even a jab on IBM: that good old company that wrote songs to immortalize its employees.
https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/songs-of-the-ibm.pdf
Back in the day, the Hamburgers believed in exceptionalism and we all wanted to learn from big brother.
Frick I miss IBM.
Okay, well, I finished the second half and it's just a guidebook for MDR employees on how to perform their jobs and also rules like having to wash your hands 10 times a day and avoiding other departments. Only the actual letter was interesting.
What's more interesting is when I watched To Live and Die in LA recently and it had Irving from Severance.
It's one of the best movies I've ever seen and I didn't know the actor was in it.
I like what they did with this. They redeem the hamburger airport literature.
agreed. I hated this smug piece of nu-age shit so much, but the sub plot about his book was fricking gold
I believe Michael Chernus makes a such much better job in this one that in Patriot (2015), but a lot of the onus falls on Patriot's script. The writers in Severance know what they are talking about. In Patriot I got the impression that the game between politics and intelligence was a fantasy serving the main character.
Milchick had the same reaction to this book as me
What caught my attention the most is how the book has absolutely incorrect information, but what is important is what people take away from what they read. It is a lesson in humility for...a well defined set of people.
What did Cobel exactly ask Milchik about running a 266 on MDR? I don't get it, it's when he printed the cannibalism photos, what the frick was that about
That one is also very clever: They use art to demoralize people.
266 must mean propaganda to cause strife between departments so they avoid each other. MDR was sent artwork of murderous O&D employees and O&D had the same thing with MDR employees.
This is the one O&D had and it was the same except the badges were switched.
Makes you wonder how many times they had to run a 266 for it being such a big deal that turned out to be absolutely nothing.
I liked it, but I'm left feeling like I'm done with being strung along by tv series'.
It felt like they were 1 or 2 episodes from wrapping this up.
There is no way they'll wrap up this thing in just one or two episodes.
I feel they couldn't wrap it up but that it needed 1 or 2 more episodes to keep me interested. Instead it's just fricking annoying. They could go on for another season and explore other departments, understand what they're doing etc... But for now the innies seem like dead weight, Lumon should just fire all 4 of them and suicide them randomly, i can't think of any reason why Lumon should put up with their mutiny. Unless the goal of this expirement is to create the most docile employees in existence and are improving as people go more crazy
I torrented it but 1st episode has 1 too many black person in it so I had to drop it.
Shame since rlm seemed to pretend to like it.
this is the correct course initially. but the "diverse" cast helps to recognize the characters easily in this bland setting. otherwise, you're still correct.
I can only think of three. Milchik, Mark's gf and the black guy at the dinner party. The last two are only in a handful of episodes.
I guess Dylan looks like some kind of quadroon maybe.
i love the shows website.
https://lumon.industries/
i also love my dogface hapa israelite wife.
I hope they don't frick up the internet gimmicks like Mr robot.
what happened with mr robot?
Let's say Irving is the most interesting thing after S1
what are you fellow severance bros watching now? i just finished the final severance episode the other day
Under the Banner of Heaven
cheers boy
Altered Carbon S1. Its not very good.
definitely do not watch S2 then
I wasn't planning on it. Cinemaphile said avoid S2, so avoid it I will.
>I think maybe Irv worked there the longest
I think he said 4 years.
I liked it but I can tell from a mile away that this show is going to shit the bed hard the moment it has to actually start explaining things. The cult aspects already seem kind of goofy as it is.
The cult aspect is an obvious parody of how corporations try to pretend to their workers that they are "a family" and train workers to feel loyalty and like they have a stake in the company's success.
So for that reason I let it stand
probably the most beautifuly show shot in recent years. everything seems so perfeclty framed and the colors are amazing.
I agree with you. It was really nice to look at and the characters were likeable. Pretty much what I need from a show.
One last one because I love these far away shots.
all these blues and greens, its lovely.
That's something really nice about the show. It was always night on the outside because that's when they finish work. You have the colourful office and then the beautiful night time outside.
and only afterwards i noticed helly is wearing only lumon colors
>helly is wearing only lumon colors
What do you mean by that? Do you mean she's following the dress code?
Also Irv is breaking dress code with his patterned tie. You could put a code in a series of distinctly coloured bars/stripes. Like some kind of bar/stripe code... And regardless of the utility of such a code system, the manual (which he has memorized) clearly states solid, patternless garments only.
Maybe it's uh... representing the fact that his outie doesn't nearly have as much faith in Lumon as his innie. The outie is the one that dresses for work and he's doing all kinds of research about the company.
He's been there three years, his outie would have been reprimanded for this by this point, if the code detectors didn't flag it right away. I've successfully spotted a plot hole, squirming won't change this.
Also Mark's tie is patterned here too.
The Lexington letter included the handbook from an employee in a different office from an unspecified time. Likely before the show because the code detectors weren't good enough to pick up the language she made as a kid. It's possible they upgraded the code detectors enough to allow for a wider dress code.
Yeah that's possible.
Code detectors presumably don't detect code, that would be impossible. Although, that's unlikely to stop a writer from writing it anyway. But I assume they detect you knowing that you're trying to smuggle out a code. All the whack shit they're doing to those people's brains, they could identify whatever brain pattern that deception exhibits and then trigger on that.
Although, that would make it easy to sneak out a code by, instead of shoving it up your own butthole, planting it on someone who was unaware of it.
Unless the detectors are also triggered by your knowledge that someone else is smuggling out a code.
They should put a code in a box and then make it randomly spit out either the code or a blank page, and then go through the detectors to see what happens.
Or maybe it's just Magic.
cuty evil mommyfu
I want to frick this GILF so bad
based
I'd love some real Mrs Casey ASMR about my outie
I consider the whole show a metaphor for wagecuckery. The “you” in a corporate soulless job is a completely different part of your personality.
Most people with corporate jobs are literally a different person while at work. I made the mistake of going out for drinks with the people in my department once and it completely ruined the dynamic we had and I had to fricking transfer to a different branch.
all right, what did you do?
It's not polite to rant about Black folk and israelites in public
how do i access the cameras though?
https://lumon.industries/intranet/terminal/
>public accessible website
>/intranet
>doesn't know how to access the innernet via the outernet
ngmi
it's because you've been severed from your real self, innie. wake up.
What's his endgame?
Christopher Walken's feces encrusted rectum.
avoid getting stabbed by blacks
co-op severance offices seem like a mistake- wouldn't they be frickin' all the time?
Do the severed know what fricking is?
It's frowned upon.
We need more Helly pics/webms.
I only have the stuff I made and it's not much.
was polite of her to inexplicably stop caring so that we could free up screentime for the gay's plotline instead
>was polite of her to inexplicably stop caring
About what? The goats? Lol.
moronic spammer shill
You call me a shill but you're not even smart enough to check the filenames to see that I pirated the show. Reply to me after I hide your post and add to the 90% of the board I have filtered that're bots and actual shills.
shilling not apple; your own pathetic obsession
based esl moron. people like you make me look good in comparison. thanks.
The should release the source code of Lumon technology on the show.
Bro there's no actual working program. It's just a video.
God I love skirts and blouses. Peak female attire.
It's a great show but I doubt season 2 can retain the quality. They already broke their conditioning. Are they going to be moved to a department? Are we getting new characters? I believe any new addition will only go further from the initial premise. I'd preferred even a bad ending, the innies get erased and the world hasn't changed.
prison break barely spent one season in prison
it can be done
ya but the show went down hill didn't it?i know i stopped watching early into season 2
Good but pretty highly overrated. Everything is fairly surface level even the mysteries like the waffle parties and the goats and what the computers are actually used for, are cool but not that thought provoking. A lot of episodes meander and just have 15 minutes of Dylan fricking SEETHING at Christopher Walkin, which was annoying as frick how much time was devoted to this
Think about how fricked up it would be if your innie was gay and you weren't- like imagine going home from work and your butthole just inexplicably aches.
You'd find a note in your pocket saying you hurt your butthole somehow while stacking shelves... every day kek
I hate the homosexual bow because for one reason only. Friendship and camaraderie are enough. Being best friends is more than enough.
The script is brilliant. The performances are excellent.
Friendship. Simple, flat and pure friendship is enough.
A woman probably wrote the Burt and Irving relationship. The kind of woman who thinks Frodo and Sam are gay.
>Also I don't think you'd necessarily need to go prison gay if your outie is regularly getting some
Correct, which is why Dylan wasn't gay even though none of the women at work like him.
>Friendship. Simple, flat and pure friendship is enough.
Yeah. I was thinking about this after the last Orville episode. There was a similar set-up that cried homosexual relationship but it was revealed in the same scene that they were best friends and i was somewhat shocked thats still a thing. It should be at least.
This. When they touched hands it was so out of left field I thought it's just their autistic innie behavior showing. But no, they were actually gay lol.
It kind of makes me mad that this show is already reaching a cult status... It's fricking soulless...
>terrible acting mostly
>quirky art direction
>plot filled with holes
>le_EViL_cOrPORaTiON but in a commercial and mass appealing way
>mystery box which will not satisfy anyone in the end
It's exact type of show which appeals to redditors, unironically.
>soulless
thats literally the point, just think about it
I referred to the art direction and directing with the soulless, obviously they're going for soulless, but it's so in the face and there's no play with sound, visuals, any original piece of setting or anything like that.
Also, there's no second dimension to it. A huge improvement would be if they would dig more in to the soul/soulless division, but there's simply no other side. It's just "look this le_minimalism, old technology = soulless", "it's always dark when the protagonist is home = work eats your life, how deep".
Lumon controls the whole town. Is the world according to Lumon handbook.
>"it's always dark when the protagonist is home = work eats your life, how deep".
Well, it's true. You don't have to be a lib or a commie to understand that modern working life is completely fricked. We're not meant to live like this and the whole concept of being an "employee" (i.e. trading some fixed number of hours per week for a wage) is a modern contrivance. And like most modern contrivances, it's a mistake.
>mystery box which will not satisfy anyone in the end
I agree with this one. Mystery boxes are complex to make. The only series that delivered the box was Devs (2020).
there really isnt much of a mystery, its very clear a couple of episodes in.
You always have to consider the last in line. The one whose IQ is at room temperature. Will he or she be satisfied?
These people will find this show boring and go back to watching 90 day fiance.
The hardest people to seduce with a good story are the fools.
>Mystery boxes are complex to make.
you're thinking of legitimate mysteries. mystery boxes, by definition, only have other mystery boxes inside.
take it from a jaded GRRM fan that there is absolutely no reason at all to think a showrunner knows what the answer to a question they raise is if they don't answer it within one season.
I think you need to stop shilling this putrid pile of shit. The Archive is choking with your threads. homosexual.
I'm lucky if I get ONE good Severance thread in one fricking month.
can i have the may may frog thats like this?
based. i remember another one though
Severance is the perfect information security procedure by the way.
>t. cybsec