What did Matthew Weiner mean by this?
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What did Matthew Weiner mean by this?
What did Matthew Weiner mean by this?
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60s new age bullshit is the key to happiness
You should have a nice day. Why haven't you yet? Are you scared?
yeah
The Man will take what you love and hold dear, your spirituality, and twist and corrupt it for capitalism
The series creator talked about the ending in an interview. He is moronic enough to think it is hopeful and there’s nothing bleak about Don using his spiritual awakening as inspiration for a Coca Cola add since it came “from a place of honesty”. Although Don would definitely be stupid enough to think he’s doing humanity a favor by putting shit like “give the world a coke” out there.
>Capitalism is.... LE BAD!
Don was struggling with so much shit in his life and was totally unhappy with his life until he went to that hippie retreat, after which he learns to truly be happy and creates the greatest ad of all time.
Don has had "awakenings" before this moment that went nowhere and he went back to being the same miserable alcoholic he always was. It all depends on if you believe Don could actually change by the end of the series.
>Don has had "awakenings" before
when?
they are significantly different than this one no?
Weiner was a writer on The Sopranos. Don is cut from the Tony Soprano mold of character. Tony's awakening (being shot by Junior) and inevitable capitulation on that change is written into the show. Don has an awakening by acknowledging that guy with the fridge dream and we see him happy by the end. Does it last? Does whether or not it lasts matter? I think that's what Weiner is asking with the ending, among other things.
I'm assuming you are a different anon since you didnt answer my question.
The main character struggles the entire show and it ends with him being happy. Why wouldn't his happiness last? It seems like an obvious happy ending.
If Weiner says it's to be taken as a straight happy ending then I guess there's not room for debating that for you. I still think it's more open ended but we can agree to disagree.
>using the human propensity to spirituality as a way to sell cheap soda that rots you from the inside out is good
I think the way they show the ad after Don's smile is acknowledging the obvious cynicism present in Don's change and you'd have to be kind of thick not to see it.
Weiner himself said the end is played out straight. Of course the whole thing is cynical to anyone with half a neuron, but the series creator unironically thinks there’s nothing cynical about it.
I didn't know he commented on it honestly. I thought he was like his former boss David Chase and just let people debate about it without getting involved.
Literal commie brains
Don loved selling and marketing, it was his passion. In the entire show, he smiles about 3 times. And when was Don shown as the happiest? Its when we see a flashback of him selling a furcoat to Sterling and trying to get hired at Sterling Cooper.
Selling is what made him happy, and his spiritual awakening allowed him to once again enjoy his passion, and his life
the show itself spells out how rotten and cynical the business is when joan prostitutes herself for an account that they lose anyway. or the whole arc with dow chemical. acting like don's character journey just happens in a vacuum is moronic
>I think of black men fricking my wife
lmao the anon who made that meme absolutely cursed this scene for me
Did he become Sane Man?
heh
don realized he could leverage all that new age hippieism/spiritualism to make an ad and thereby taint the movement forever
All wicked deeds from the weiner are forgiven for giving us the most adorable girl who ever smoked a cigarette and showed toes in a way that can only be described as natural
>All wicked deeds from the weiner are forgiven for horrifically abusing a little girl
Seriously fricking have a nice day, you evil piece of shit. You being alive makes the world worse. People like you need to be killed by normal people
Sally was a disgusting boomer. She deserved it anon.
love it when moral crusaders expose themselves as violent savages
kek, the mad men schizo always gives me chuckle
>if you don't hate little girls and love evil israeli shit you're INSANE
You're the insane one here.
have a nice day, e-girl hater
The only person who molested her was probably the Hammer and without doubt, she loved it.
>tfw all January Jones does nowadays is keep lusting over married basketball players over social media
>molested her
Where did I ever imply anything like that? She was horribly abused by everyone involved with the "show" and they all need to be killed. And her parents allowed and facilitated the extreme abuse of their daughter, they're horrible parents, people like them should not be able to have children.
The parents and Kiernan are surely grateful for your concerns about the abuse of her. Daily they cry over the horrific things which happened to her on their way to the bank.
>its not child abuse if the victim is paid off
This is why you deserve to be killed
>NOOOO SHE CAN'T JUST SMOKE A FEW CIGARETTES FOR SOME SHORT SCENES AND NOT INHALE
>HOW DARE SHE GOT PAID FOR SMOKING ONCE OR TWICE
>SHE WAS ABOOOOOOOSED
>WHY DON'T YOU HATE AND WANT TO HURT LITTLE GIRLS AS MUCH AS I DO?
>DON'T YOU KNOW HOW GOOD CHILD ABUSE IS?
This "show" and its defenders should be reason enough to genocide israelites like you
Your appointment at the
is due
HE'S A PINBALL WIENER
>Mad Men
>Clearly smiling
Who wrote this shit?
jej
Mad as in crazy, like joker-crazy, idiot
I read it as an open ending.
This is the moment where Don is lost the most , he quits NewYork et quits being Don Draper et quits McCann. But running away doesn’t solve his problems, he have a panick attack the day before this scene because he realise that he is still broken.
Yet there is a glimpse of hope during the retreat (that is a disaster at first). He realise he can connect with another man struggle and with his own battle. That he can face it. And this is the hippie bullshit that makes it possible for Don to open himself, to find this hope that seemed forever lost.
So Don makes the coke ad because he is deeply emotional, the ad is a medium for his creativity and it’s a way to express himself as silly as it sound. It shows that Don buys into the hippie philosophy and it’s him that understand that times have changed. It’s not 1960 the world is not the same and he can be someone else.
I don’t think we should read the ad at something cynic. The ad shows the hope that Don feels at this time and this hope is real. We just don’t know if this hope will translate in lasting happiness.
Anyway it is beautiful show, I hope you love it too.
Don found some new happiness by discovering the value of simple human connection. He is not a new man of course, he will still be superficial and conflicted, but he is better now, because he just accepted himself a bit more.
a lot of people thought the ending was don tries out that enlightenment shit and comes up with a coke ad. i like to think that don found peace there, but the coke ad just signifies that he was sold some other bullshit like he had been doing for companies for years. its a suckers market.