What did you LIKE about Steven Universe? How would your "perfect" version of SU roughly go?
What did you LIKE about Steven Universe? How would your "perfect" version of SU roughly go?
What did you LIKE about Steven Universe? How would your "perfect" version of SU roughly go?
the shitposting
seriously, this show was bad, but it was kinda fun how bad it was, and experiencing it it was the last proper instance of Cinemaphile getting together to really take the piss out of something in a way that's fun
i miss old Cinemaphile
SU may have been the first in an era of poo, but it was the last in an era of good times
I feel that way about a lot of shows, not just SU. The shitposting that went on was always fun.
This anon gets it, SU has no value besides shitposting.
And porn. There's some good quality SU smut out there.
But if you enjoy SU for the story it told? Frick off outta here, you dumb as shit.
It IS bad and you should feel bad for liking it, beyond laughing at it and beating off to the smut it inspires.
/sug/ was great
Never 5get I cry evary tiem.
in hindsight I wish I had participated in /sug/ more. I only posted a couple of times and didn't browse that many threads.
People like this are the biggest parasites on this site. I don't mean wrt SU in particular, just for anything. They've dragged this board down the toilet
literally the only thing noticeable is the shitposting because otherwise its just advertising and botposting.
discussion is fun, but content creation is what drives a site.
the homosexual lesbo undertones should have been wiped from the script. Its not a hill to die on.
This shitposting was fricking awful and I'm not entirely sure what you're on about, there were points where it was literally just people having DeviantArt-tier fantasies of beating up Steven. I don't like Steven either but that was some cringe shit.
people got really really pissed off that steven just let the diamonds live instead of organising a lynching. then they got pissed that he didn't like spinel even though she tried to kill him numerous times.
Clussy good. Glowing giantess’ bad
>"Hey guys don't you just want to beat up Steven"
>That one guy that just spammed those ugly drawings he did
>The art is inconsistent thread #10 billion (not defending the inconsistencies at all but holy frick)
>Political bait thread #10 billion
>Dozens of threads demanding that the show be sent to /trash/ even when new episodes were airing
I actually see the shitposting surrounding SU as the point where old Cinemaphile really started to die.
>How would your "perfect" version of SU roughly go
The same as it went, I'm not rebecca sugar so I don't have a say in how the show should have been
I would be consulted for things of making the series and it would be made simultaneously with cosmic tales of my Ring monsters.
guy why won't you ever make anything?
That’s your line for me posting a drawing to mess with my head. Enjoy the failed cartoons and other media that made you as pitiful as this.
you drew something? lemme see! i never see you draw anymore dude
>Inane Zoomer gooning like this
>his cartoons by John K students like me and other types fell apart because of the animation community being a shitty place
> perpetuates the same behavior as an adult that ruined his Childhood
Your life is a cosmic joke
well? make something already
A random Catholic is necessary for Steven Universe to be good instead of a therapy session for Millennial women, and other things too if you’re not a fan. Have a good day w/cartoons
ok call me when you create something
guy why are you here
>John k decided I wasn't worth grooming so now I'm bitter and argue on Cinemaphile as a substitute for human interaction
Homie learn to chill
More adventure, more motw, less crying.
I thought the characters had some really fun dynamics with each other. It was enjoyable watching them banter and learn and develop with time. I liked seeing them going on adventures and doing funky Gem shit, or occasionally getting other peeps involved. I liked Steven, for his naivete and how much the people around him could let him down sometimes he was a good kid and a good guy. I liked seeing the plot unfold and seeing all the goofy or serious shit the cast could get up to. If I had a say in running the show I'd trim a few episodes' fat and try to tighten some relationships, e.g. prevent Lauren Zuke from going ballistic- but overall, this would be trying to make Sugar herself a firmer showrunner. I remember SU fondly.
Peridot would have stuck her nerdy wiener up Lapis Lazuli's tight butthole
Fellas, find yourself a lady who looks at you the way Lapis looks at Steven.
Zuke ruined them.
Tie aspects and future and the movie more into the original series instead of spin offs. Spinel would've worked great as a season long antagonist who begins the shift of Steven realizing the fricked up reality of the gems.
Make the diamonds the villains on the series instead of be summarized in "yes, Rose was a victim of the diamonds, but she is to blame for everything, she made the diamonds cry so she is the bad guy"
And for god's sake, seriously, remove the stupid movie from the canon.
Seriously, Spinel doesn't contribute anything new to the series, doesn't she even contribute something relevant, a gem that had been betrayed by Pink? For that we can have Pearl
A gem who was betrayed by Rose? That's why we have Bismuth.
Spinel is a leftover
Showing Rose's bad actions doesn't mean the writers wanted to portray her as a villain but more like showing how flawed she used to be and even if she didn't mean to she did end up hurting people.
In Familiar during the song Steven briefly sang about how mistreated Pink was with the Diamonds. They never intended to make the Diamonds the victims just because they missed her and they were very explicit in those episodes about how Pink was neglected and abused.
That Rose/Pink were flawed is actually a good thing, what seems like a problem to me is how in the end the message was so diluted that people just didn't understand it.
That is, let's take for example the Cluster
The cluster is an amalgam of gems forced together destined to exploit the earth in the future.
Who did that? Who made that unnatural aberration and destroyed all those gems? The diamonds
But people somehow ended up blaming Pink alone for initiating the release of the gems.
Definitely not the porn generals
I liked the lore and monster fights for the first season and a half even though they quit the monster-of-the-week thing and then the lore shit the bed so Steven could cry more and talk to the humans.
I'd change it to be 3 seasons max. S1 being a low tier MotW. S2 building to Jasper/Peridot as the main antagonists with the threat of the Diamonds looming on the horizon, and the occasional monster for the Gems to fight/Problem for them to solve. S3 being the Gems triumphing over/converting J&P, a surprise Cluster 2-3 episode special, then moving into space to deal with the threat of the Diamonds. Blue/Yellow could possibly be converted to the Gems side, but White can't be and must be conquered with the new found combined power of the Gems. The heroes save the Earth/Humanity/Gem-kind, the Diamonds change their ways, Steven is celebrated and then impregnates all the gems and Connie thus leading to a new Crystal Harem.
I'm a lefty anyway so I like inclusivity, but also in that inclusivity the gems exemplify so many different body types it's like a horny buffet for me.
The biggest downside is the lack of a healthy aggression -- sometimes you -should- be mad and the show's philosophy didn't leave much room for that.
Also, reminds me that my ex-boyfriend used to frick me raw everytime I watch SU, so I really loved it.
>I'm a lefty
>my ex-boyfriend used to frick me raw everytime I watch SU, so I really loved it.
Yeah that tracks.
>How would your "perfect" version of SU roughly go?
I'd take Rose/Pink being a liar even further than the crew did, and find a way of integrating Spinel into the Crystal Gems
Well if I had complete control over the show.
>bump the episodes to 30 minutes
>keep some of the mystical elements the gems had in the first season
>have more fight scenes with better choreography
>have fusions be a metaphor for relationships/bonds and remove the sex theme
>don’t have the fusions be voiced by celebrities so they can be used in more episodes
>only put townie episodes in-between major arcs and have all of them reveal something about either a gem character or the lore
>have the cluster be a looming threat throughout the series and the main reason the gems need the diamonds
>have Rose and Pink be separate characters with rose sealing pink in the chest before being release and joining the crystal gems later in the series
>make lapis, peridot, and bismuth actual CGs with their own rooms in the temple
>possibly include Stella and the Metal Men as minor rivals to show that other aliens exist and there is more going on outside of steven’s POV
>have several non-Steven POV episodes
>include some lars in space episodes to show what’s happening in the galaxy
>have more one off homeworld villains
>don’t have jasper giver herself GAIDS and make her more of a rival to steven at least until the pink reveal
>make the diamonds or at least white actually villains
the complaints about the Diamonds being Redeemed Space Hitlers never made sense to me. of course if Hitler was 50 feet tall and invincible changing his mind would be a more practical solution
it's moreso about how quickly they were redeemed
>we have killed millions
>but you act like child
>oh shit u right okay were friends now lawl
although whether that was the original plan, or because CN was breathing down their necks i don't know
The problem is that th diamonds didn learn anything and have (as far as the audience can tell) no empathy for anyone that isnt a diamond, the moment steven dies or changes his mind everything will most likely go back to what it was before
>"perfect" version of SU
redundant. Houseki no Kuni has already been made.
But that show sucks. CGI slop that even SU mogs in terms of soul.
Honestly I never understood the appeal of the show but recently my eyes have been opened
More focus on the main characters for one, S1 had a nice enough balance if memory serves. Biggest differences would come from how Homeworld/the Diamonds were handled
>war plays out roughly the same, the Diamonds lose Earth and think Pink is dead
>in their grief and paranoia, the Diamonds reach a drastic joint decision that shall change the fate of gem-kind forever
>within months, they have merged and integrated their form into a massive transmitter, broadcasting their consciousness across the galaxy
>in essence, they have enacted martial law upon the collective will of the gems
>all for the prevention of any further conflict and heartbreak
>by the time Steven and co encounter Peridot, Homeworld gems are almost unrecognizable
>their bodies covered in what seems to be "organic" armor with even their faces being covered, more preventative measures from the Diamond singularity
I can touch on Peridot and the like if there's any interest.
I'm interested.
>Peri is introduced as largely mute/using a garbled synth language
>attempts to avoid confrontation like in canon, acts more like a cornered animal
>could openly read as either comical or uncanny depending on the tone of the scene
Cut to When it Rains
>reformation happens without Steven present
>armorless form is kept out of frame or obscured by convenient bad lighting
>can make out stuff like her hands and face being indistinct, almost featureless save for eyes and thumbs
>fashions a crude helmet out of household items, attempting to reconnect with her masters
>rain and CG confrontation scenes smushed together
>Peri scrambles out the door to escape immediate harm
>Steven manages to calm them down before they kick her ass
>as he's doing this, it begins to rain with the CGs noticing she's stopped running altogether
>he looks back as she discards the helmet while looking skyward
>for the first time in her life, Peridot can feel something without immediate feedback from the singularity
>whatever feelings or thoughts she's having in that moment are hers alone
>she's cut off here
>but maybe that was more of a blessing than a curse
>before they know it, she's already grown a distinct face and hands, more closely resembling the green dorito we all know and love
>but where in canon she's borderline neurotic, here she's humbled yet curious about the world around her
This all sounded a lot better in my head but here it is. Also picrel is what I had in mind as far as her design and that of the helmet.
You made it sound like she had some body horror thing going on, but she looks perfectly fine in your art. Unless that's actual concept art from the show.
Yeah it's actual concept art, that little ID4 alien pic at the bottom right's closer to what I had in mind for the organic suit. Whole design philosophy for Homeworld was just a mix of the really early stuff and a kid-friendly Giger approach.
Actually stick to the original concept of a bunch of gay space rocks fighting space nazis and keep the diamonds as villains. All I wanted out of this shit show was to see Steven fight a giant woman and they couldn’t even do that
It could have been great.
>sequential dubs
Whoa mama
God this comic becomes a lot more depressing when you realize that pearl only rebelled because her master told her to
its way funnier when you realize the gems only love steven because he used his diamond commands to make them feel good. Blue made them cry, yellow made them fear, pink made them feel loved.
the whole revolution goes down the minute steven no longer wants to play house if the only reason it exists is because a diamond wishes it so
>the evil space nazis… were actually just depressed wine aunts
>none of the gems actually rebelled they were simply following another Diamond
>steven saved the day with nepotism
>all pearls are natural slaves and Pearl would gladly suck Steven’s dick if he order her to
>good dick is all it takes to break a empire
Bravo sugar
I want to have a pearl wife
Can’t even say the classic “she’d hate you” considering our pearl put up with being cuckqueened for several thousand years with a smile on her face
>I'm not a prostitute
Yes you are, Pearl. You're my prostitute.
I really liked how Yellow Diamond's introduction sold her as this ruthless, mercurial sociopath whose calm and tactical facade falls apart when a single insult causes her to seethe with autistic rage. I was looking forward to seeing how she'd interact with Steven and the Gems, so having her turn into a mopey, "merely" mean sadsack was so fricking disappointing. They also mishandled her VA by having Patti Lupone sing what I consider to be the show's worst song.
>How would your "perfect" version of SU roughly go?
Not taking constant breaks for "townie" episodes. Not injecting townie episodes in the middle of dramatic story arcs. Actually following through on plot threads in a timely manner. Ignoring the opinions of shipper crewmembers. Have Amethyst suffer actual consequences for the things she does, namely shapeshifting into Rose to torment Greg with images and the sound of his dead wife. Have Amethyst go through her character development much, much earlier, so that she's not insufferable or "just there" like she ended up being. Have Pearl get over Rose earlier, rather than repeatedly dragging that dead horse out of the ground to beat it for the sake of cheap, forced drama for the twentieth time. Have Sadie actually answer for her crimes in the island episode, because while Steven and Lars do point out how fricked up that is, nothing really comes of it. Don't retcon the Gem society as having never encountered organic life before Earth despite having existed for millennia.
Keep the Diamond Authority as mostly cold, malevolent aliens who need to be dealt with: Yellow stays as she was introduced (vengeful, hateful, just really wants Earth dead). Blue can keep her characterization (depressed but just as bad as Yellow, an unpredictable moodswinger, sees nothing she's done as wrong). White can keep her initial characterization (vain, perfection obsessed). Blue could maybe be redeemed, but Yellow and White would stay antagonistic until finally shattered: Yellow because she's done too much, White because she's psychotic and does not care in the slightest how much damage she causes in her pursuit of perfection, and no amount of singing, crying, or dollar store quips will change her mind (if anything, they'd just piss her off MORE).
Also, make Pearl x Greg canon both because it was the logical endgame and because it would piss off the tumblr/twitter crowd.
IMO Blue is the only one of the Diamonds that actually deserved to be redeemed. She realized her own actions were terrible on her own accord and when finally given the right guidance led the charge herself against Yellow and White. Yellow needed a fight to change her mind and even then she wasn't really 100% on board, and White was willing to fricking murder everyone in that room. Blue realized her mistake early on, showed genuine compassion, and was willing to risk her life without needing any additional convincing.
she said 'i never shatter anyone, i never make anyone cry' as if those were equally bad
Yeah Blue's got the strongest case for redemption by FAR, I always thought if the other two ended up shattered that she should have basically become the sole Diamond overseeing the reformation of the Gem Empire.
I enjoyed the concepts and characters for the most part but I wish they focused more on lore and the plot
>What did you LIKE about Steven Universe
The songs
The character relationships before it got way too 2SLGBTQ+++ near the end
>How would your "perfect" version of SU roughly go?
I would make Rose less of a c**t or at least explain her motivations behind her actions more beyond than just the me me me shit it came across as.
I like Say Uncle, and the very early cosmic horror elements the show had were neat, which Say Uncle kinda feeds into funnily enough.
>how would your 'perfect' version of SU go
too much work to make it into an 'ideal' show without it losing its whole identity. the concepts it treads on can actually be interesting, but since it's written by fujoshi and warped little freaks who hate their families you can't make the relationship/family drama have any meaning or interesting parts
The show sucked because it had an identity crisis and didn't really know what it even wanted to be, so it was all over the place until it settled on being lame predictable shit with a rushed ending. My favorite episodes are actually Cat Fingers and Frybo, because they're the closest the show got to having actual horror elements to it, which is pretty funny when you think about how safe, gay and lame the rest of the series is.
>they're the closest the show got to having actual horror elements to it
What about the artificial fusions and The Cluster? They were lame later on the series but Keeping it Together and Nightmare Hospital had some nice horror and the concept itself is messed up.
I completely forgot about those. I guess they just didn't leave much of an impression.
The fact hat this also happened to Danny Phantom despite washisname and Sucrose beig polar opposites is surprising.
I liked all the parts they cribbed from Utena, and I liked the schizo fandom lore of Homeworld in the first two seasons better than what we actually got.
It referenced Sonic memes in like episode 3. That's it. Everything else was trash.
I liked when it had potential, and then we get townie shit after townie shit instead. And then it ended.
I was just thinking about this earlier today. I don't remember the latter part of the show that well but mainly I'd say delete every episode involving Peridot (after season 1), the cluster, or connie's parents.
this but delete every episode not involving Peridot (after season 1) instead
worst take I've seen in weeks, wtf happened to SUgays?
It's not SUgays, it's just the usual Cinemaphilentratians coming up with the most moronic ideas because they are either baiting or think they're smart for being against anything popular/good. It has become Cinemaphile culture to do this shit
>Peridot with mecha limbs
good episodes. Cool lore bits about the current state of Homeworld. Interesting design and humor as the tech nerd villain with potential to turn good
>smol uwu fem Invader Zim autism expy Lapis-fricker Peridot
awful episodes. Jesus christ what the frick were they doing. I hate that such an outspoken portion of the online fanbase loved what was essentially Steven from season 1, like Scrappy Doo when we already have Steven/Scooby.
Why did you reply to yourself?
Peridot wasted every minute of my time when she lost what made her cool.
Are you sure you're not just autistic?
Autist here, please don't group me with these gays who have shit taste
I loved the general it made the 2010s very hilarious for me
Season 1 was very very good. I really liked the family's dynamic, with the main character being in the role that's traditionally the comedic/mascot role. Always fun to see how this fat frick manages to save the day, or at least unfrick his mistakes that ignited the episode's problem of the day.
It's such a fricking shame the the show gets caught up in shallow identity politics insead of a straightforward adventure fantasy romp. Some of the biggest hype moments were fusion reveals, and those were often hit or miss. Not involving Rose or some "reflection" of Rose to interact with Steven and the gang more often annoyed the frick out of me. I don't think I'll ever agree with the writer's decision to shit all over her corpse in the latter episodes without even walking back to consider the complexities of her life and impact on the world she controversially left behind.
I'm glad Rebecca Sugar will never get a sequel for this show. Her best quality is songwriting. Ian, Matt, and Ben evidently had the stronger story vision. Without them at the helm, Rebecca's direction was all over the place and unsatisfying.
>Not involving Rose or some "reflection" of Rose to interact with Steven and the gang more often annoyed the frick out of me.
thank god you weren't writing the show then
have steven wind up leaving connie for a gem
The gem stuff was significantly better than the townie stuff, obviously. If the townie stuff was shelved, or at least involved gem stuff like most of season 1, it would've been a lot better of a show.
>like
The gems, because I have a nonhuman girl fetish
the fact they never did a pearl/rose song duet is fricking... what the frick were you doing, sugar. that should have been priority 1.
Rose is actually a turbo heterosexual and pearl made up everything about rose loving her in her head (gem?)
gay copout
So just like the rest of SU?
what a high effort post
Literally all Pearl had to do was shapeshift herself a dick and Rose would have been all over her, she was just way too autistic to think of that.
She literally was.
That's why she deserves to get dicked next and have 5 gem-human hybrids
I'm actually shocked that there's so little art of this, it seems like one of the most obvious dynamics. Pearl's thirsty as frick for Rose, realizes all she needs is a dick, shapeshifts one, they bang. Like it's right fricking there.
You are really not in the know then.
So far as I'm aware there's like, 5 pieces that have that dynamic.
Thankfully
i dont know how you'd think that. the show makes it pretty clear pearl preferred greg because he was willing to actually challenge her beliefs
unless you are spergposting, in which case never mind
Did you respond to the wrong person, because I'm talking about the like 5000 year span before Greg was even born.
She was a rock dyke and had no interest in dick before then none of them did or even really had the equipment for it.
Rose canonically slept with human men before Greg and Pearl even sung about it in "It's Over Isn't It". She liked dick anon.
A major plot point of the show was that Rose had been with men but only viewed them as toys to be used before she met Greg. The flashbacks make that really clear and Pearl even mentions "The men who would come into her life now and again" in that song of hers.
I find this idea almost more funny than hot.
>Like 4000 years into Pearl lusting for Rose.
>"Ugh, what do those human men have that I don't?"
>"...WAIT A MINUTE."
>Proceeds to unleash thousands of years of sexual frustration into Rose.
>What did you LIKE about Steven Universe
murderwiener memes
>Have to keep it within the constraints of the original idea
-Townie episodes remain like they did in seasons 1 where there's a lot of overlap with the gems
-Keep the religious/mystical aspect of gem society that season 1 constantly implied even after they're revealed to be aliens. Those concepts aren't mutually exclusive
-Don't put townie episodes in during major plot points, and if you have to do it like season 2 where the plot interweaves with those episodes
-Also keep the missions/corrupted gems/gem artifacts as reoccurring episode ideas like they were in season 1, letting them flesh out the world more as the main plot introduces more concepts
-Make the White Diamond confrontation an actual moral test that forces Steven to evaluate his entire approach to things instead of just "lol ur acting childish", if the writers decide she actually cannot be redeemed shatter her
-Do fricking not listen to Zuke with her fricking moronic barn shit and have Lapis and Peridot become regular characters living in the gem temple instead of barn buddies
>If I'm allowed to do whatever I want
-It's an adult series
-Steven is now 18 and setting off on his own journey
-He must frick every gem to bring them to the side of Earth in order to fight against the Diamonds
-In the end he fricks them too
An entire season of me buck naked except for a top hat and a monocle hatefricking her vice grip tight bald israelite dicky with my uncut ten inch bbc while she dresses up like various gems.
Will win multiple awards.
I wish we got to see more of ruby and sapphire separated they were cute separate and hot together
Sapphire is easily a top 5 gem hottie for me, I'm sad we didn't get to see more of her.
The series is more good than bad, just needed a few tweaks.
No hiatuses.
Fewer townie episodes in the later seasons.
Integrating Peridot, Lapis, and Bismuth as supporting members of the team instead of banishing everyone to the barn
Stop at the movie, the movie was a solid epilogue, but Future was a mistake.
Because of some buttfricking kid from Russia spamming Cinemaphile and /aco/ because he got butthurt, I can't post my favorite Gemstone without being thrown into the same boat as him. Frick you Perianon. I hope you get drafted.
Maybe you shouldn’t have shit taste
I mostly like her for what she used to be, or what she could've been. Something different. Not some, green midget autistic dorito thats a whizz at computers and is metallikinetic.
> in the children's show about emotional growth and second chances, why did they simply not murder the antagonists???
Some people shouldn't be given second chances.
there are plenty of antagonists in the show that weren't given second chances
The primary ones, the Diamonds, the cause of all this - were.
that's because they control a vast empire with billions of loyal subjects, and are also ostensibly invincible
Shattering a diamond fixes nothing. That's like one of the foundational plot points of the show
Because the early seasons were about a band of rebels fighting a evil empire and it went out of its way to show how evil the diamonds were with things like the cluster or them wiping out entire worlds
>it went out of its way to show how evil the diamonds were
This is just speculation on my part, and probably a lot of one-sided lifting to justify/make excuses for the mess that Sucrose and gang ended up with, but Steven's hamfisted message of forgiveness, understanding and "emotions > fax and logixs tips fedora" makes a lot more sense if it gets recontextualized as Homeworld being truly alien, unable to fully comprehend that their terraforming destroys something they don't regard as being "alive" in the same way they are, and the overall mission of the Gems being not just to protect and care for Earth but under Steven, to try and get Homeworld to understand what they're doing is harmful. Sort of like a budget Ender's Game, or Forever War.
also they retconned it so the gems only killed animals and never species with actual life
doesn't actually make sense when you think about the fact they have an entire soldier caste, but there it is.
Yeah I wish the dialogue was a bit tighter. Peridot's throwaway line about them being a warrior race ruins the alien Otherness of it for me. Again, this is just me speculating and theorycrafting, but Homeworld would be even more threatening if it *didn't* have a soldier caste. Like, Lapis is insanely powerful and destructive but that wasn't her function, it's just a consequence of her abilities. Jasper and the other quartzes should have been simple construction or earthmoving platforms. Homeworld simply doesn't recognize the erasure and repuprosement of organic life as anything but efficient resource management, the same way we make fertilizer out of dung.
i suspect the original stuff about a rebellion+evil empire+DEEPEST LORE was ian jones-quartey and other's input, and rebecca was never that into it. as an estranged family metaphor the redemption, plot, conclusion is all perfectly fine, it just didn't marry up that well to the literal text of the show.
this is probably true and why they start to explicitly state the 'Garnet is a metaphor even though she physically exists' type of stuff harder in the later seasons. The worldbuilding of the show is representational first and logical second
yeah. i might just be getting too old to yell at shit, but SU is a lot better if you watch it like an exploration of a mood, an aesthetic, instead of grasping for continuity. a lot of the most kino episodes had this dreamlike vibe, like little nemo. even the way the s1 humans don't consider the gems or their temple particularly noteworthy felt cosy and insulated from reality.
Porl is cute
And hot
Accidentally called the thicc MILF I was smashing at work mom while I had her bent over in the breakroom.
She went into full body convulsions and started moaning loudly pulling my hand too her now exposed breast I got over the embarassment and started drilling into her with evething I had I saying it over and over again
I didn't even pull out I just erupted inside of her. She didn't walk or sit right for the rest of the week and was never the same towards me after that.
Fun flirting, touching, and anytime I'm stressed blowjobs or powerfricking her when I'm pissed went to a complete..
Anyway. That's my little story.
By beheaded you mean forced to crossplay as steven while I hatefrick her with my massive uncut wiener into sobbing orgasm induced submission?
Close enough i guess, but her brother, Steven, has to watch.
Why didn’t the Steven simply rape the diamonds?
>implying he hasn’t
He made his grandma hug the wall and poke it out for him, bro was a menace that day.
Crank up the religious symbolism for maximum edge. White outright calls herself god and occasionally references Bible passages during her speech. The series ends with a defeated white using Onion’s essence to birth the true gem messiah
>White outright calls herself god and occasionally references Bible passages during her speech
Very vased
White is absolute
>gay satanists raise the literal anti-Christ to kill god and bring about an era of degeneracy
I would have forgiven rebeeca for all her shitty writing choices if it turned out that was the direction she was taking the show
I mean Gems did have a religion based on scrapped ideas during Peridot's arc where she talked about Gem mythology. Even the Lunar Sea Spire looked like a place of worshipping with the Moon Goddess Statue, and Rebecca said the Diamonds' origins is religious. It's a shame they've considered doing an episode about Gemkind's origin and religion 3 times and they all got dropped.
I wish we saw non-gem ayys or at least got some more info about the gems and their origin
Same would have helped the setting feel less small
What do you all think of the gemsonas that spawned from series and threads anons?
i hate that stella and the metalmen thing for sheer laziness of concept
Eh I found the metal men fairly interesting whenever it didn’t veer straight into edgy SS or jojo references and made a basic attempt to fit into SU I also made a disgustedly large amount of Stella greentexts so what do I know
does anyone even remember kidney stone? or any of his comics?
Tbh, what would make Steven Universe better is stop redeeming the villains, especially the Diamonds and stop pushing gay shite.
amathyst actually tried.
>Season 1 had a slow build I really liked. Drip feeding lore through slice of life episodes.
>Honestly liked Steven. He was charming and I enjoyed seeing him grow as the show went on.
>The backgrounds and music were fricking great and the overall visual style of the show was very pretty.
>Connie learned to swordfight and there's not much I love more than a good battle couple.
>I liked pretty much all the gem designs and amethyst is just great in general.
If I was gonna change anything about the show I would allow the show to escape Steven's perspective after season 1. It's a very limiting way to tell your narrative. I would also probably have a few more fights, especially ones that show off the gems individual skills. Finally I would just give Steven a bit more to do. Even in the finale he's treated like an in-over-his-head kid and he only wins because white Diamond is objectively wrong.
Also I would have Lars and Sadie get together.
I always liked when it snuck in horror elements and fricked up concepts to contrast with the grossly sweet tone.
>Cat Fingers
>Steven aging to death in the span of a few minutes
>Amethyst shape shifting into Greg's dead wife to screw with him
>The gem mutants essentially being the desecrated corpses of the fallen being mashed together and reanimated.
>The concept of using sentient living beings as power sources ala the mirror Lapis was trapped in.
>Lapis raping Jasper into submission.
It bummed me out that after the cluster arc, the stories seemed to moreso focus on space stuff that didn't interest me as much. The townie episodes involved the gems and otherworldly elements less and less as the seasons went on and became boring.
It's weird how horror was basically an intermittent theme in early SU and it just was completely abandoned as the show went on, I really do wonder if that wasn't Ian JQ's influence. Aside from what you mentioned there's also shit like the lighthouse episode, the episode where the gem shards bring the french fry costume to life, Pearl getting stabbed by her clone which proceeds to spend the rest of the episode more or less hunting down Steven, and even just sudden tonal shifts like Amethyst's breakdown at the Kindergarten or Garnet being fricking pissed at Steven when he was trying to free Lapis. There was this genuinely unsettling background vibe permeating the whole series early on, I feel like the show lost a bunch of its edge when that got dropped.
Welll the horror was seen as a way to induce trauma in the children viewers so their messages could be digested easily and create a trauma bond.
doubt it was quartey, sugar loves horror and eerie shit. i imagine she dropped the horror when the series became more 'escapist' in tone. less 'realistic about the nature of being a hero' and more 'everyone can be a hero'.
It shows that being raised by members of the LGBT would end up giving you PTSD.
He also became king of all women within a week so it all worked out
how would the show have been received if everyone called him 'Steve' instead but the show was otherwise unchanged?
You know, I liked the non-violent message it had.
I wasn't a big fan of encouraging teens to have sex, the orgies, the incest, and everyone fricking everyone else. Because fusion was a metaphor for sex, and dancing was foreplay. It's not subtle at all. This is a show by a troony israelite to sexualize children and it's really fricked up when you think about it. They even gave him a double-shafted guitar when it was 2 dudes.
The initial vibe was immaculate. Everything through the last note of Stronger Than You was great (save Sugilite), and then it immediately went to shit.
I think the only real way to save it is to have it get cancelled about halfway into the following season, the show becomes a massive hit in Japan and a Japanese studio picks it up. America can't be trusted with it.
>Everything through the last note of Stronger Than You was great (save Sugilite), and then it immediately went to shit.
I sort of don't believe that anyone who says this actually watched the show, because aside from the Cluster letdown season 2 was still incredibly solid and mostly kept the tone of season 1. People fricking loved it when it was airing, it was season 3 where things fell apart.
Yeah the "Season 1 was the only good season and then the show went to SHIT" thing feels like an after-the-fact revision to me. People were going nuts for season 2 and the first part of season 3 was where the show hit its maximum hype levels. It's after Mr. Greg that you start to feel things really go off the rails.
i thought things slowly derailed after peridot/yellow diamond, it was the start of the barnening.
True but nobody at the time realized that the barnening was... the barnening. It was only one episode at the time and everyone thought they'd still be regular characters, even though people were disappointed that they weren't living at the temple. In retrospect it's a canary in the coal mine.
The only time it genuinely piqued my interest was when it implied the CGs had done some seriously morally dubious shit like trap Lapis in the mirror.
Yeah they never addressed that or had lapis really confront them about trapping her in a living hell past her introductory episode. Guess the gay barn was more important than giving lapis a actual dynamic with the other gems besides Steven and peridot
Let me guess and then everyone clapped
i actually don't mind lapis character concept, how she is so OP but crippled by her depression. but she was always a very ill defined character so i don't think she was worth wrangling.
they already had a superior 'gem antagonistic to the CGs, semi-loyal to homeworld, healed by steven' character in centipeetle, and she was actually relevant to the endgame. they should have just used her in place of lapis if they had planned the show out better.
>Lapis panicking as soon as she sees the CGs and yelling at Steven to not trust them.
>Turns out the worst they did to her knowledge was Pearl keeping her in the mirror, it was Homeworld that trapped her in the mirror, she didn't even see Bismuth crack her gem, and never interacted with Garnet and Amethyst before
Yeahhhhhh I'm 99% sure they were hinting at a lot more there and dropped it. Lapis's initial reveal is insanely tense and weirdly kind of implies that Pearl doesn't know what's going on while Garnet and Amethyst immediately panic.
I liked the female characters, and if I had my way it would've been a shounen/harem anime and Becky Shug gets beheaded on the last episode.
Frick u mods, it's censored.
No pointless townie episodes after season 2.
just make it a battle shonen with 300 eps
Focus on gens exclusively, stevens not a low T homosexual and actually fricks the gems like in a harem anime, MUCH more focus peridot aka best gem
>harem anime
>main character actually gets to frick his harem
Lol Lmao
I fricking hate how modern anime has it where the MC never actually fricks any of the girls but in my rendition of SU steven fricks, and he fricks the brains out of the gems
My biggest issue with SU besides the obvious (Townie bullshit filler) was the fact that nobody outside of Steven seemed to care one iota about the gems. So you have a group of aliens on earth for millennia leaving magitech and ruins all over and not a single human is remotely curious about this at all?
The show wanted to have something like coherent world building but didn't want to think things through at all.
>So you have a group of aliens on earth for millennia leaving magitech and ruins all over and not a single human is remotely curious about this at all?
i'm glad they didn't, some bullshit plotline about the fbi would have been boring as hell
>>rose isn’t pink
any rewrite that does this is extremely lame
>keep the fantasy element the first season had
>focus more on the world building
>have non gem aliens
>have Greg be more involved with helping Steven with his human half
>have the gems be more involved with the townie episodes
>no Steven bomb format
>steven leads a second rebellion against homeworld
>more nephrite
>rose isn’t pink
>white gets a villain song
What was White Diamonds problem?
She needed everything to be perfect for... reasons and wanted to expand the gem empire at the expense of life in the universe for... reasons. Neither of these reasons are ever explained.
Okay, but that still dosen't explain why she esisits.
She was an autist who never left her room and couldn’t handle people being different from her.