what did you think of his performance as bond? how will his era be remembered in decades to come?
what did you think of his performance as bond? how will his era be remembered in decades to come?
what did you think of his performance as bond? how will his era be remembered in decades to come?
He will be known as the last bond
A pretty actually good bond that was more or less wasted on generic blockbusters who were trying so hard to escape the silly bond legacy they copied Bourne and mission impossible's homework and called it a day.
This too.
>generic blockbuster
Craig's more of the soulless artsy fartsy Bond. EFAP the wrong way.
This, just like Christian Bale was the last Batman. Movies DO peak and Bond finally met a worthy end with Craig. They’ll inevitably try to reboot it yet again but it will crash and burn faster than Indiana Jones 4.
fpbp
idris elba might actually make it work despite being black, since he is a genuine bond fan, but it doesn't like it will happen
Melba would be a better choice than something like Chalamet because at least he's British.
>Melba would be a better choice than something like Chalamet because at least he's British.
You reminded me that Clint Eastwood rejected an offer to be the new Bond, because he believed Bond should be British.
I am genuinely so scared with what will happen to this franchise now. It's at that point where they're going to start going off the beaten path and destroying the franchise to cater to whatever is trending at the time rather than relying on the strong legacy of the product. The british are excellent at doing such things now - see Doctor Who.
Bond films always tried to reflect modern leanings. Moore in Nawlins during blaxploitation era. Moore in space during Star Wars era. Dalton nabbing a coke dealer during CIA drug running era. Craig era reflected the grimdark era but quickly became a series of references to older films when the creativity dried up. This next run will be as pozzed as ever if the trend continues.
FRWL is Cold War era Bond but doesn't negate the fact that it is a Hitchwiener s[y film. The Spy Who Loved Me is a much better reflection on how Lewis Gilbert's pre-Bond British heroes and Post-Bond British heroes are done in cinema
There's no reason to be afraid because its fate is already completely sealed.
next one will probably be a bipoc trans woman and the series will crash and burn after Craigs leave
Skyfall was kino, I don't care what anyone says.
Skyfall falls apart in the third act
A lot of Bond movies do.
he ruined the franchise
how the frick is that on him and not the writers?
You probably arent wrong
They're going to frick up the reboot. There's no question about it.
There'll always be the Bond before and the not really Bond after.
While there's plenty to praise about Craig's Bond. There's also a lot to criticise. What has happened is the legacy of the Bond franchise has guided the films more than the producers guiding the franchise.
For all the bad choices made in the Craig films, there are worse ones that almost happened. Sean Connery was rehearsing for a role in Skyfall as a retired double 0 agent. Like wtf?
At this stage there is nothing to trust in the producers that they won't go woke with the next Bond. It'll be a different character with the same name and some tropes. As silly as Bond is, the new one will be less believable as a character.
No one wants to see Bond die, yet they did that. What will they do to our boy next?
if craig is a bad bond then dalton is too
and dalton was great
No. Dalton =/= Craig despite what Craig gays want to pretend.
Dalton was "darker" than Moore sure but so is literally every other bond and his movies are still very much classic bond unlike Craig's. He was emotional at times but he wasn't a crying drunk like Craig's bond and still maintained the coolness and fun moments that are required for bond
I didn't like him as bond because:
1) He looks like Putin
2) The ball torture scene.
Crap.
>2) The ball torture scene.
That right there deserves a lot of flak. Looking back, that was the "wait what the frick" moment where you knew something was off and was only going to get worse.
The torture scene was in the novel.
I don't give a frick about the novels. I don't want to see a homoerotic scene of bond getting his balls whipped by a french pervert.
what was wrong with the ball torture?
It was really stupid. I would have liked it better if the bad guy just went to shoot him but the gun jams so he has to leave, letting Bond escape.
The ball thing was just gay as frick.
you dont even actually see any balls, how fricking fragile are you that the mention of testicles makes you immediately call it gay?
what was gay about it? torturing genitals is a very real thing done in the underworld, and the last fricking thing I thought about while watching that horror was sex
It was from the novel.
Who?
I appreciate how intense he was, he did a fantastic job in all his action scenes. he doesn't look like a bond at first glance but he grows on you despite the abysmal writing in almost all his of his movies
If I want an intense bald guy I'll watch Jason Statham. If I want James Bond I'll watch literally anyone else.
all bond movies have a lot of action, you can appreciate one aspect without embracing him as bond
I love Skyfall. Got halfway through Spectre. Then there's the last one I didn't watch, I gotta watch
>Then there's the last one I didn't watch, I gotta watch
No, you don't. It's boring.
If you only made it half way through Spectre you won't finish No Time to Die
this. only good parts are the chases in italy and norway, rest is complete ass
What about the cuba scenes? I love Paloma bros, she’s my favorite Craig bond girl. Too bad we won’t get more of her ever.
>Cuba scenes
Ah yes, the 'lets wipe out the entirety of spectre (sans blofeld obviously) with our macguffin scene.
Yeah, that’s true, that was kind of stupid.
Why is Skyfall so much better than all his other Bond films? There is a huge, noticeable jump in quality with this one then it vanishes again almost immediately
best Craig era
>song
>shots
>plot (even if it was also stupid)
>settings
>ending
And a cute hapa girl they wasted just to sweeten the deal.
Good action and cinematography, nonsensical story. I like casino royale way more
Weet ik
Worst Bond in the history of Bonds, looks like a Russia mongoloid and I say this as a Russian mongoloid. Should never been cast Bond.
And all the movies with him sucked too. Yes even that one.
Just going to say this, CR was mostly okay but the others were too polished with no substance, can't bring myself to watch NTTD
It must be boring hating fun this much.
>WAAAAY THIS BOND MOVIE DOESNT CONFORM TO MY POLITICAL COMPASS THEREFORE IS TRASH REEEEEEEEEEE
You are utter human garbage.
>REEEEEEE YOU CANT LIKE THE STUFF I DONT REEEEEEEE
>no argument
>no intellect
>"me söyjak"
Wow, what a hot opinion. Thanks for the win.
Welcome to the internet
The internet did not have this many moronic Black folk before
Anon the internet was created by autistic wizards of the highest homosexualry. Never has there been a serious user since it’s inception. Including you for being a senseless hategay shitting on decent movies to sound like an intellectual.
>daniel craig
>fun
Almost got me to reply with this moronic bait.
It’s a movie with spy cars, laser watches, and exploding pens and you analyze it like a philosophy text book? Weak.
Weak bait
Kek it’s literally not bait. I enjoy Craig’s movies. I totally agree it’s a vastly different style and a lot of long time bond fans weren’t really satisfied. I was the same way for a while. But after watching them all again I found a lot of enjoyment from them.
Casino was pretty well received by most people here when it was new. QoS was 50/50 and Skyfall was again received pretty well.
The latter ones not so much, but I think the last movie in particular really ruined the overall reception.
Checked and true. The last movies were really over the top but I assume it’s because they knew once Craig was done Bond movies would peak and never be as profitable again.
SPECTRE has some good scenes, but the overall story was so nonsensical that it poisoned everything. Weak writing--especially weak third acts--isn't new for Bond movies, but SPECTRE is so self-serious about its awful soap opera Blofeld twist it's like an indictment of seriousness in general from someone who hates the entire business of screenwriting. There are worse Bond movies, but SPECTRE is one-of-a-kind as sabotage.
Yeah, and his movies were boring too
he was good. peoplegive too much shit because he wasnt a 50s dandy like if this was 1956 but they don't get that him being autismo rambo was exactly what the 21st called for
>how will his era be remembered in decades to come?
Literal postmodern marxist trash.
>le communism is good, west is bad
>EEEBIL rich guys laughing at le poor oppressed people who want the minimum wage increased
>Bond berated by film itself for doing Bond things like seducing women
>"Everything you touch dies[, white man]!"
>EXTREME closeup of M's digusting, aged, haggard face as she removes her makeup, angrily pulling and tugging her corpselike flesh over her gaunt skull, scene doing everything in its power to disgust the viewer and break le "females should be attractive" patriarchy oppression
>Bond's close friend dies and the character literally just throws his body in a garbage can because le people are just chemicals who cares
Utter fricking garbage. These people all need to be hanged.
Lol its just a movie, are you trying to act like a big baby on purpose or are you genuinely this offended by James Bond of all things
Also they were doing the "thats sexual harassment!" Thing in Brosnan movies
terminally online incels are like that
>Postmodern
>Marxist
This bastard got this talking points from Jordan Peterson of all people. Frick off to Cinemaphile, learn this shit properly and then form your arguments.
Postmodernism and Marxism are by their sheer nature, noncompatible. Dumbfrick.
People should really read about post modernism and what it is exactly it tries to criticize. Of course, I pretty sure the irony will be lost on them.
>le communism is good, west is bad
how was that your takeaway? i dont remember any mentions of communism there
>EEEBIL rich guys laughing at le poor oppressed people who want the minimum wage increased
>EXTREME closeup of M's digusting, aged, haggard face as she removes her makeup, angrily pulling and tugging her corpselike flesh over her gaunt skull, scene doing everything in its power to disgust the viewer and break le "females should be attractive" patriarchy oppression
that was always a thing
post chin immediately
this is what being a terminally online poltard does to you. use this post as a psa.
Black person loving homosexual for a Q bond. It should have been Jude Law.
Connery > Brosnan > Moore > Dalton > Craig
you left out lazenby pseud
A fricking charisma black hole, perpetually constipated, squinty “cool” homosexual look on his face, his mouth looks like an butthole, ugly rat blonde hair, overstaying his welcome hundred movies having, piece of shit movies with nary a classic amongst them, bad action, weird scripts, tonally inconsistent, sterile, drab, scared to take risks, one step forwards two steps back, ruined he own career by being chained to the hip with a failing franchise, bond will never ever be fun again, ruined spy movies for all time, guilty of destroying the imaginations of a generation, sexless, limp, obviously homosexual- no chemistry having piece of worthless shit, he should fricking DIE.
A few typos, needs a little polishing up, but overall well said. Craig is just miserable and his movies are pozzed postmodern shit.
Woah woag, take it easy. You know the wine makes you emotional.
>what did you think of his performance as bond?
He wasn't.
Pretty fricking grim, in all 3 senses of the word.
I liked him. Other Bonds are a bit too cliché for my taste. Connery was cool but after that it's like a bad cosplay most of the time.
>every single bond that ever played bond is too much of a bond cliche
>i like the one that played bond like a watered down lukewarm generic off-brand spy movie
It being different and "off-brand" is what I liked about it.
It's the most unique Bond, and what made people hate it or enjoy it.
This. I’m a huge sucker for the cheesy spy classics. So the “modern” bond really threw me off. But i learned to appreciate it for what it was.
>desperate samehomosexualry for obvious trash
Ouch
This one actually isn’t me. Other one is though. Seethe more.
I didn't even notice someone had replied because I closed the thread.
Bond has never been a 10/10 Oscar worthy franchise so I'm not sure why you're seething that someone liked objectively decent movies.
>different = good
kys
it sucked ass
>bond
>Craig
>Bond
>Image not named as "bondgirlslaughing.jpg"
He will be remembered as a woman
he never looked british to me, he looks like a russian henchmen
He never felt like a Bond to me, but I enjoyed his movies enough. Moreso than most of Brosnan's at least.
Great bond
Shame about the troony producers
Ruined the character and sucked the life out of the franchise
He will become the default choice for best bond despite everyone realizing he was only in one good movie.
The era (not the actor) ranking is
Connery > Craig > Moore > Brosnan > Dalton > OHMSS
They can reboot the series and do it right but they won't for various reasons (lack of creativity, terrible present conditions in the business, trash audience expectations). They could cast a young lad and plan out a series of movies that span the next 20 years, planning for every 3-4 years like the early runs. Change the setting to a timeless place that isn't trying to capitalize on the popular thing du jour and offset this tone, although the series has always been about putting the hottest, newest shit onscreen so they'll never do this. Lean into the cold war atmosphere, focus more on geopolitical intrigue rather than throw it in as an afterthought to frame the action scenes, go back to a time of sexy femme fatales, and make Bond un-PC again but don't call attention to it. Fewer gadgets, more character work. Every now and then toss in a big lair but keep it tight and engaging.
I guess just run with From Russia With Love tier storytelling and occasionally dip into a You Only Live Twice when you want to grab the audience. Instead we'll likely get Mulatto Bond who hardly ever fricks, which the zoomers will eat up.
Verhoeven should be in a one Bond one-and-done deal. No wonder Boyle ditch its rotting corpse
You do realize that Cold War Bond was a product of its time, right? No different than the last two Bonds of whom both have ultimately boiled down to
>muh modern age no need for spies anymore
>muh modern age no need for spies anymore
But spying and espionage is more prevalent than ever, israelites and chinks are robbing western countries blind. Makes sense that ~~*Hollywood*~~ would now choose to conveniently downplay this.
He was fine. He put his own unique spin on it and sold it enough.
The worst part of his tenure was the writing, mostly the forced MCU-ification of needing everything to be connected. This all culminated in NTTD which I still hold is the worst Craig Bond film. Yes, worse than Spectre.
imo the next Bond actor should have a limited tenure like Lazenby or Dalton did. Two films max. Something to allow the ip to breathe a bit before we move onto the next long-term mainstay.
I could never get into Craig Bond because of how he looks more like a slav bodyguard for the villain than the real 007, he's too ruthless compared to suave mofos like Moore, Dalton or Brosnan. Even Connery who was exhuding pure raw manliness still had some smooth charm.
Also, the way his movies are shot more like Bourne movies rather than Bond ones, taking themselves way too seriously. Part of 007's DNA is the "fun" like gadgets, hot women, cool cars and exotic locations. They kinda still were here, but to a far lesser degree.
>he looks more like a slav bodyguard for the villain than the real 007
this
He's literally gay, the only time he's ever acting is when he pretends to be a hardboiled man. Look for the articles of him being caught at gay clubs and playing it off as 'a nice place to avoid toxic masculinity'. Any straight man can see it clear as day, this dude takes dicks in his mouth and ass and probably rubs his dick against other dicks like a swordfight, and seeing him as bond disgusts me, it's repulsive and vulgar
He's got kids moron
So does Barry Hussein sotoro but that doesn't make him any less of a flaming homosexual.
i've been many times to gay clubs with my gf and her friends, doesn't mean anything
Means you're a homosexual is all
they're nothing special, just a lot of Rod Steward on big screens
And all the poop blood and cum lining the bathroom stalls
probably not too kindly but not his fault, most of the movies were just soulless
>1 good movie
If you don't have time to read this entire review, here's all you need to know about Quantum of Solace: the second-in-command to the super villain is named Elvis, and is played by this guy:
This summer, terror has a new name: Elvis.
Imagine finding out you got rejected from community college, then finding out that your alcoholic father got arrested for domestic abuse, you lost all your life savings in a Ponzi scheme, and all of this happens to you while you're on the space shuttle Challenger. Then you wake up and it's all a bad dream, except you realize that you're at work without clothes on, and work is NASA and you're really on the space shuttle Challenger. That's what this movie is like, only infinitely worse. Everything about this movie pissed me off, save for the lesbian finger bang scene. Except even that sucked because it wasn't in the movie.
Here's the premise:
Bolivia. That's what's at stake in the new James Bond movie. Except not the entire country, just the public utilities. And not all public utilities, just 60% of the water... Yes, if a certain evil villain gets his way, 60% of the water in Bolivia will cost more.
JESUS NO!
Only James Bond—the secret agent who foiled a plot to destroy London with nuclear missiles—can make water more affordable for Bolivians! This is easily the stupidest James Bond movie since the last one. I don't know what Hollywood's obsession is with making jerk-off movies where the bad guys are "realistic." You know what's another word for realistic? Boring. If I wanted realism, I'd walk down the street to get Mexican food, and maybe stop by a Borders and pick up some magazines. You know why they don't make movies about me shopping for magazines? That's because nobody gives a shit. And that's what Quantum of Solace is: me shopping for magazines, with no Mexican food.
>Yes, if a certain evil villain gets his way, 60% of the water in Bolivia will cost more.
>JESUS NO!
lol
I don't see movies for realism, and if I did, I sure as hell wouldn't watch one made by some butthole who thinks "reality" can best be represented with the aid of 219 special effects artists. Which leads me to this movie's biggest problem:
Marc Forster is an idiot.
If Marc Forster was an X-man, his super power would be ruining brands. Question: what's the difference between Oscar winning director Marc Forster, and a first-year film-school student? Nothing apparently, because his movie is wrought with compromise and stupid film-school gimmicks. There was a scene in the movie shot in Siena where Forster agreed to conditions which forbade him from using helicopter shots or showing any violence "involving people or animals." That's why when a gunshot was fired into a crowd of thousands of people, you don't see a single limb explode. Emphasis on you and not me because I imagined a scene where the bullet not only kills people, but is sentient and kills every single person in the stadium, starting with grandmas and horses, then when the last person is killed, the bullet turns into a hot alien babe who then proceeds to make love to my junk, orally. Except my wiener is really a shotgun, and I blow her head off. Too bad, hottie!
As for the film-school gimmicks, Forster cram-packed this movie with symbolism. There's a scene where some chick gets inexplicably drowned in oil, and it's supposed to parallel an iconic scene from Goldfinger. There's another scene in an opera house that "pays homage" to the Hitchwiener movie The Man Who Knew Too Much, and a planefight that pays homage to yet another Hitchwiener movie, North by Northwest. Then Forster made all the action sequences in the movie revolve around earth, water, air and fire. HOLY SHIT WE GET IT, YOU LIKE TO USE SYMBOLISM IN YOUR MOVIES:
Everyone always thinks that directors are super smart if they use symbolism, like somehow conveying something visually gives the movie some validity it wouldn't have had if the same message was conveyed through dialogue alone. But nobody ever asks: why? Why do pretentious artsy dipshits think symbolism is the holy grail of filmmaking? And yes, I know Forster was trying to say that oil is more precious than gold (it's not), and even if it was, that message has nothing to do with the movie because THIS MOVIE IS ABOUT WATER. Does anyone other than James Bond nerds care that some chick was arbitrarily made to look like some other chick from an old movie? If you took the symbolism out of the movie, would it make any difference? That's a rhetorical question, and the answer is my fist. Nobody cares about artsy gimmicks. Focus on making the movie not suck instead, buttholes.
Marc Forster: part-time director, full-time idiot.
Characters from foreign countries usually speak english in a foreign accent instead of their native tongue in movies, because subtitles don't sit well with audiences. It's sort of a cop out, but not a big deal because there's an unspoken agreement between audiences and directors that states: "we, the audience, don't want to read and in return, we promise not to make a big fuss about you dumbing down society and culture."
Well Marc Forster has done the seemingly impossible, and found an analogue to "english with an accent," only visually. Every time there's a location change in the movie, the name of the country flashes up on the screen, but instead of using plain type, Forster uses a different font for every country. So when there's a scene in Russia, they use a font that looks kind of Russian, but is still in english.
Not only is it unnecessary and condescending, but it shows just how much contempt Forster has for his audience. Hey Forster, you know why we don't need ethnic-looking fonts to illustrate the fact that we're in another country? Because letters placed in close proximity to each other spell words that represent the names of those countries. That, and the obvious change in scenery. Where's your artsy visual symbolism now, butthole? I mean, this is some Windows movie maker shit. Even my mom who's a total /b/tard and sucks at non-linear editing knows that using fancy fonts makes her a lameass.
Hey, guess who's still an idiot? Marc Forster.
The decision to set this movie in Bolivia was puzzling, because based on my knowledge of the geopolitical influence of Latin American countries, I posit the following: Bolivia doesn't matter. Extra-Stupid! In fact, none of the scenes in the movie were even shot in Bolivia (shot in Chile instead). But what makes this plot industrial-strength stupid is that it's based on a true story. Only they forgot to tell you that. What's it called when you borrow a story without giving credit? Oh yeah, theft. But to be fair, they did change the story by making it duller:
In 1999, Bechtel corporation signed a contract with the president of Bolivia to privatize the water supply in the 3rd-largest city, and shortly thereafter tripled the water rates (source - new window). Yeah, that's right, they tripled the rates in real life... so when the bad guy in James Bond threatens to double the rates, it's like the producers are challenging you to give less of a shit. They took a non-interesting real-life story and somehow made it less interesting than real life.
And finally, no review of Quantum of Solace can be complete without talking about how extraordinarily stupid the title is. I know people all over the world jumped all over it as soon as it was announced, but I don't think anyone truly realizes how literally the title is meant to be taken. So don't email crying about how I'm not the first person to point this out, because I am, and frankly I'm writing this as a gesture of charity by sharing my genius with the world, so shut your fat mouth.
Here's what each word of the subtitle means:
Quantum: Noun
1. A discrete amount of something that is analogous to the quantities in quantum theory.
Solace: Noun
1. The comfort you feel when consoled in times of sadness or misery.
So the title literally translates to "James Bond: A discrete amount of comfort felt when consoled during a time of sadness." In the final scene of the movie, James Bond finally catches some dude he was chasing for revenge, and then Bond (Daniel Craig) shows off his acting chops by showing the tiniest glimmer of a smirk, an almost infinitesimally small, but measurable amount of consolation.
Man, this review is like 10 pages long already and I haven't even started talking about the stupid boat scene (basically there's a 2-hour long boat scene where Bond gets chased by 3 boats, and it ends when Bond just decides to drive off), or how Bond spies on the super villain by driving his motorcycle up to a chainlink fence on a sunny afternoon and just listens to them talk. Quantum of Solace is a shit pastry. Avoid
Simply epic review my good man... I salute thee and award you 1 internet
i don't really see the inherent problem with the bolivia plot
>Except not the entire country, just the public utilities. And not all public utilities, just 60% of the water... Yes, if a certain evil villain gets his way, 60% of the water in Bolivia will cost more.
This was a real thing that happened in Bolivia. Bond villains don't always want to take over the world.
It’s nice to have a more self contained plot. Not every villain has to have some insane superweapon. It’d get boring.
that scene where his wigs falls off, lol and we were expecting some kind of illuminati
I miss when Maddox wasn't a cuck
>Verification not required.
>Whine when Craig's villains have "realistic" motives
>Whine when Craig's villains are ridiculous and they do bad things because they're evil
at some point I think people just want to b***h and moan
Craig is fun to watch, but he does not look like Bond and he is not written like Bond as far as audience expectations for a film version. Casino Royale was a great film, but if I'm in the mood to watch Bond I'll put on From Russia With Love or, hell, Live and Let Die well before it. And the less said about pretty much every other Craig film, the better. Quantum was an absolute low point, and it's nice they started to up the goofiness a little bit going forward, but it took way too long and didn't go far enough. Then they tried so hard not to be Austin Powers but made Bond and Blofeld brothers???
I hope the next bond isn't a homosexual that frequents gay bars to avoid "heteros".
>what did you think of his performance as bond?
Great, writing permitting (and sometimes even when it wasn't, as in SPECTRE's climax).
>how will his era be remembered in decades to come?
The same as it's regarded now, which is that it had an excellent start but then plummeted. Which has been true for most Bond tenures, even if not for the same reasons.
Skyfall is kino even if the plot is pants on head moronic. The other movies I don't care about.
you should see casino royale at least, mads is amazing as always
I feel sorry for Craig.
>be announced as the new Bond
>everyone goes apeshit because you're blonde
>Casino Royale comes out
>everyone loves it. You're top of the world. Everyone wants to see the next film.
>writers strike kills the next film
>Quantum is the worst Bond film ever made
>the media starts hyping up Skyfall as Oscar worthy
>it's a shitty Dark Knight ripoff with a shitty Joker ripoff as the villain, also uses tropes that were parodied by Austin Powers in the fricking 1990s
>at this point Craig is fricking done with the whole franchise
>Spectre is somehow even worse as it doubles down with whatever Skyfall was trying to do
>Broccoli c**t drags him back for one more movie, the most emasculating Bond film ever made, and a straight up character assassination, figuratively and literally
>a year later Broccoli c**t tries to pin the "Bond death" idea on some comment Craig made to her over a decade ago, as if she wasn't rubbing her clit to the idea of killing Bond every night
Can you even imagine going from the biggest action star in the world to the most hated cuck, starring in 2 hour long Omega Seamaster/Aston Martin/It's Her Turn commercials?
I can think of a few I like less than QoS. But the drop in quality from CR to QoS is probably the most steep.
depends kind of on where the series heads from here. if it goes full woke then he'll be remembered as the last Bond. if it returns to his roots then he'll be remembered as the Bond that was a temporary distraction a la Dark Knight and Bourne.
The lows from the Craig era are higher than the lows from Moore and Connery, but the highs are nowhere near as high. The character is distinctly different from the classic Bond we all know and love, but the movies themselves are tolerable.
Thunderball to YOLT was worse for me, especially since Thunderball itself was a marked step down from Goldfinger. YOLT was just so unbelievably bad.
YOLT was excellent.
wrong, satan.
even by the era's standards, connery in yellowface supposedly passing as japanese to other japanese people is moronic.
bond "becoming a ninja" because he spends an afternoon with a dude is moronic. this then led to what, him throwing a star at a dude?
bond, a master spy, leading a frontal assault on a fortified position with other dudes who are supposedly trained primarily in hidden and asymmetric tactics? moronic.
worst Connery dialogue by a mile. worst Connery girl by a mile. worst Connery plot by a mile.
the only redeeming part of YOLT was the stuff in Tokyo.
i super disagree. the snorkeling and underwater stuff was dope (for the time). it didn't age well, but that doesn't make it a bad movie. the plot, the girl(s), and the dialogue were all great by comparison to YOLT.
you all need to remember that there's more to an action movie than explosions and gunshots...
Calm down Chang
was that supposed to be a retort?
also, the proof is in the pudding that everyone knew YOLT was terrible at the time. watch the trailer for OHMSS sometime. it's 100% "omg y'all look at this NEW bond!! it's NOT the old bond!" for like 6 minutes straight. they knew YOLT was terrible, so much so that they had to find a new Bond to save the franchise.
Settle down miss, no need for a meltdown
i accept your concession
That's right, you won. The bad men can't hurt you anymore.
>worst Connery girl by a mile.
I like how quickly he was over his main girl's passing, following the next in line. Literally
>hey B, I heard your b***h died, here's another one
it was a better time
YOLT is unironiccally my favorite Bond movie
YOLT
>YOLT
>not YOLTT
>Thunderball to YOLT was worse for me
There is no Bond film worse than Thunderball. I mean, there are those that are technically worse, but I'd rather watch paint dry than a movie that considers its actors aimlessly snorkeling to be worthy of the majority of its runtime. YOLT was a masterpiece in comparison.
YOLT has Roal Dahl.
The action climax in Thunderball was godawful. The girls were sexy, espsecially the femme fatale.
The best part of the film was Bond basically raping that girl after getting stuck in the stretch machine.
>you all need to remember that there's more to an action movie than explosions and gunshots...
I watch Bond for the misogyny, racism, and ridiculous shit like a guy getting inflated to death; don't really care for action setpieces.
YOLT is, along with TSWLM, the movie that defines James Bond. It's no wonder it was parodied in Austin Powers.
As
said, the underwater scenes show their age, but at the time, it was revolutionary. Plus, Largo is a great villain and Tom Jones' song is one of the top 3 intro songs.
The pre-credits scene is probably my favourite of the franchise, Connery walking up to a grieving widow and sucker punching her, only to reveal her to be a guy, was hilarious. Way better than when Austin Powers kept trying to parody it. Then the following fight scene is one of the most brutal and kino of the franchise, second only to the train fight in From Russia with Love.
Tunderball is a top3 movie for me and YOLT is great.
>YOLT is great
could someone who parrots this please provide some details?
I tried earlier to defend my reasoning as to why YOLT is bad, but the other anon just REEE'd his way to his mom's basement instead of actually communicating.
He made tens of millions on these films. I think he sleeps well at night beside his post-prime wife.
Craig's run is basically TDK trilogy ripoff. Begins gave way to CR and TDK to Skyfall
I agree with a lot of that except for the any hate on Skyfall. That movie absolutely slapped. Great action and great intro.
He's okay. He did have charm and an alpha vibe. In the later movies, his looks were a bit off, but whatever, it's not bad per se.
Not the worst movies, too. Just addled with an unnecessary push to ''renew the franchise'' by the producers. The series just needed better stories; the formula itself was and is fine.
The producers will probably frick up the next reboot. The current deranged but established pop culture basically demands Bond's head on a spike, or his penis chopped off and his hair dyed pink.
Craig won't be referenced like this
Mediocre, like almost all bond movies. Dr no and casino Royale are the only 2 bond movies I've ever even considered rewatching, the rest are boring slogs to get through. Pulpy spy thrillers only really work in writing. Please let bond die.
Doesn't look like a Bond. Doesn't have the suave sophistication. Literally looks like a bond henchman
He never acted like an elite. Bond comes from the British elite, it rather those that are about 2 or 3 classes below them. Craig Bond doesn't act wealthy, and doesn't have the air of self-aware snobbery that Bond typically carries.
In Casino Royale Bond's origin was meant to be working class before Skyfall retconned it to make him nobility again
Bond was never working class, that's the issue. Bond was always from the upper classes (like Fleming, since he based Bond on himself), who is self-aware of the foolish aspects of the upper classes. He went to Eton, is an intelligence officer, and served as a commander in the royal navy. These are things that poor people did not do in Britain up to (and even after) the 60s, especially considering the books were mostly written in the 50s, and a lot of the aspects come from Fleming's time in the intelligence service. Bond has a coat of arms.
>how will his era be remembered in decades to come?
that's what I will remember
7/10 I think
These movies tend to age alright and even QOS isn't looked at as fiendishly as during release. Without a sense of hype to drag it down, it's a perfectly serviceable, even solid action movie.
QoS is a 6 at best. Even that opera scene doesn't hold up and that's maybe the most memorable sequence.
I feel like there's enough raw footage of the opening car chase at the beginning of QoS to make it a top 5 in the series. Just edit it in a way that doesn't make people sick and you have a great opening action scene
NTTD is a bottom 3 Bond movie
CR would be a 10/10 if the card game was shorter and the 3rd act was either gone or condensed to 10-15min. If the movie cut 30min it would be a top5 Bond movie. In its current state it just misses the top10
what are your top 10 Bond films, if CR is below that?
Goldeneye
2. Thunderball
3. The Spy Who Loved Me
4. Goldfinger
5. License to Kill
6. Dr.No
7. For Your Eyes Only
8. Moonraker
9.The World is Not Enough
10. Casino Royale
I guess it does make the top 10 for me
>no from russia with love
into the trash it goes
Incredibly boring movie and very overrated. Its a mid tier Bond movie. The only memorable part of that movie is on the train. I can barely remember the rest, and I love the Connery era.
and your opinion remains in the garbage bin
Whats your top 10 list then buddy?
I liked that old bag as M but I hope the next run eliminates all crossover and references to the past films. We need a hard reset. Especially if they maneuver into hyperpozzed territory so they're easier to disregard.
>Lucifer Satan
Bond, I'm Anthony Cumia
How come he and Felix Leiter are best buddies in the last movie all of a sudden? All we ever see onscreen before that is that they’re allies on occasion who help each other in their missions. But in No Time to Die they’re playing dice games and bantering about how white Felix’s obviously evil new partner is.
The best weve had. His Bond was actually a human being, and Casino Royale is the best Bond film no contest. Im just worried that theyll try too hard to get some big superstar like Kit Harrington to be bond, and focus on the actor rather than the character.
casiono royale falls off a cliff in the third act.
>here's 30 minutes of bond playing a cardgame bro
the poker scenes are the best in the entire movie
It's boring and if you don't know the rules of game it's ten times worse. This was before the whole poker craze so I really doubt many people really understood just wtf was going on.
they literally explain what's going on even if you don't understand poker
and in any case, the whole point of the poker scenes is to focus on the people playing, like Felix, Bond and Le Chiffre. Vesper is literally there to provide a distraction from the game, and somehow people dont realize that thats supposed to happen to the viewers of the movie, as well. She is there for the people who arent interested in poker.
what's the issue with that? watching bond and le chiffre duel was fun as frick, and it was sprinkled with action between the games
theres no issue with it, im just saying that there was backup stuff for the people that arent interested in the cards. personally i love every minute of the movie
Those are the best scenes
Bond constantly excusing himself to kill people in the stairwell, walk fully clothed into a shower, and stumble around like an butthole drinking saltwater and then politely returning to the table are hilarious comedy setpieces. And it culminates in him getting his ballsack tortured to the point he is wheelchair bound.
You'd have to be a doofus not to understand the comic genius of that
This. The first half is amazing. Cool globetrotting and a no nonsense bond. Then the casino sequence starts...
>Casino Royale is the best Bond film no contest
Maybe for someone who doesn't like Bond, yeah
Waste of a good actor. Casino was good and the rest tried and failed to ride its coattails
We should have gotten him in a legit action film. Now he’s too old.
The woke 'modern' bond that killed the francise. Only way to save the francise is to return to the cold war setting and scrap all the elements they copied from the bourne movies.
There's nothing woke about modern bond. Unless you mean casting a black moneypenny.
have you fricking seen NTTD?
Yes, I dont care about the faux 007 black woman in that. Bond got his codename back. Not really woke.
did you miss when he got rejected twice as an obvious way to tell you that the old bond is over?
>rejected
He flirted with Ana and his waifu Lea was obviously a bit mad at him after he literally abandoned her and their child.
>He flirted with Ana
yeah and failed miserably, she literally laughed at him in the wine cellar when he thought they were gonna have sex. she didn't flirt back
>Lea
I was talking about 007 leading him to the bedroom only to own him epicly
>yeah and failed miserably, she literally laughed at him in the wine cellar when he thought they were gonna have sex. she didn't flirt back
That’s more of a nervous laugh than a derisive one, and she doesn’t come across as opposed to them fricking. She flirts with him multiple times after too.
you can't be the audience for bond movies.
>women want him and men want to be him
all you need to know to avoid writing the shittiest bond movie. but no.
>i think bond should.... have a wife! yeah
>i think bond... lost his job to a black woman
>who can't do the job...
>so we bring him back!
>oh and he kinda doesn't really have a wife anymore
>and maybe she lied about it being his kid or not... but... uh...
>in the end it kinda works out?
>but he probably dies... maybe?
the above is real life. it's so pathetically real life for a white man i can't imagine any white man with testicles still functioning who would want to see a movie like this and then go, "yeah, that's the life right there!"
incels might be moronic, but this movie is literally a poster child for why choosing not to participate is the only way to win for men in such a 'real' setting. god damn depressing and pathetic movie, only outdone in both by the audience that defends it and thinks it's acceptable
>having a kid with lea sexydoux
>anything else but winning the lottery
sign me up bro
I just know you’re not white and therefore your opinion is irrelevant
Keyed is goyslop
Performance was great, Casino Royale is a classic film, but man they fricked up after that
they should've just made each movie self contained, the attempts at connecting them were dreadful
>it was me james
genuinely one of the most moronic things I've ever seen in a movie
A connected 'Quantum' trilogy, followed by some stand alone movies would have been fine as an exploration of Bond's early years.
>CR- Bond's first 00 mission and where he learns the hard way that emotional connections don't work in his line of business
>QoS - Bond's quest for revenge exposes a larger organised threat
>Movie 3 - Bond takes on Quantum and its leader. The first time he has faced a villain with the resources and manpower to destroy or dominate the entire planet.
I feel like this was their original plan and it was abandoned when Mendes came along and Rian Johnson'd the whole operation.
the only james bond that matter, the vidya bond
He showed promise in Casino Royale, then the rest of the movies just went to shit. Not sure if its him or the writing tbh.
CR was a reboot but by his 3rd film he is washed up and old and broken? Make up your mind. He played the same "bad boy going rogue" over and over. Then in NTTD he is a little simp b***h falling in love and taking 2nd seat to a nigress and getting himself killed.
Frick Craig, Dalton crawled so Craig could walk.
James Bourne was very bland and boring
He lacks charisma plain and simple. Also doesn’t look British he looks very slavic.
Serviceable but joyless, the perfect fit for his movies.
Nevermind Craig himself. On his own he will be pretty popular especiall for Casino Royale and you know it.
But his run as a whole will age worse and worse especially as it's clear they had no idea what to do and ended up in the worst way possible. Killing off Bond (especially by making him give up and choose to die) was a mistake.It's not what these movies are supposed to be. That's why the series is losing and next time they promised Bond will be talking about his feelings more.
Crying sissy babby
He was good. Not my favorite, but not awful as so many think he was
his Bonds were dumb.
They weren't bad movies, but when I'm re-watching Bond movies I skip them because they're just not "fun". I think it's unfortunate that they felt the need to go gritty and serious due to Austin Powers. What's even more depressing is that it's just going to keep getting worse from here on out due to ~~*Diversity & Inclusivity™*~~ ruining all of western media.
Craig was fine at Bond. The productions around him were subpar, despite being visually stunning.
I hope the next Bond keeps the visuals and we go right back to Roger Moore style Bond where he has wacky gadgets and fun and has lots of hot girls and there's no over-arching plot. Less serious John Wick with a lot more sex.
Out of his movies I think Casino Royale was the best 'Bond' film, QoS was the most realistic, Skyfall had the best cinematography and music, Spectre had the best concept.
>generic supervillain cabal running the world
>main bad buy somehow orchestrated all the previous movies just to annoy bond
>best concept
no
>how will his era be remembered in decades to come?
it wont
He completely stopped caring after Quantum of Solace, and you can tell. In Casino Royale he was (relatively) young and excited, Quantum of Solace he was still really trying with the action scenes, then after that there's absolutely no emotion. You can see it on his face all through the last three films. He even declared he'd rather cut his wrists than come back after SPECTRE, but he did anyway for the paycheck and asked that they kill him off. Don't you think everyone would have been better off if he retired and let someone else have a shot? Someone who didn't look and feel so fricking miserable all the time? What an butthole.
They tried to go for a gritty bond rather than the normal bond. It wouldve been better off if they created a whole different series from it rather than use bond as they went off the script with him a little bit. Instead of just doing a singular movie, they tried to string it together but it was just stupid.
Now we get a black female bond, good luck for this series.