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What director could make this work on film?
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ridley scott
taika waititi
david o russell
Edgar Wright
Sofia Coppola
Wes Anderson
never post here again
kathryn bigelow
Deborah Chow
Angus MacLane
Tyler Perry
David Lowery
Adam McKay
>Tyler Perry
Unironically would see it
realistically speaking, playing every role himself, how many days would it take him to make this?
Knowing him, on a good day he could probably do it in an afternoon
There's gotta be like 50 fleshed out characters, at least. So that would be impressive.
I dunno anon. Seems a little optimistic. Production values are everything with Perry. People who've worked with Perry and Kubrick say Perry is much more of a perfectionist.
Kubrick could never put on a wig and emulate a sassy black lady in her 50s like he was born to do it, afaik that's the only relevant parameter to evaluate how good a director is
I take it you haven't seen an already fat man wearing a fatsuit then. anon. there's so much more to cinema that you've been missing.
Noah Hawley
Also these
Literally the worst choices ever. KYS.
Except for Wes (who has the talent but not the inclination),none of those could pull it off- Wright PERHAPS but not sure after Last Night in Soho.
The correct answer is PTA
what a shit book
>He read through the whole thing
Dios mio
Why? It's probably my favorite ever. But I can really relate to Don Gately, hell I would argue that anyone who's read it can identify with someone. Then again I was a junkie the first time I read it.
yeah but you got one problem, this isn't a fricking book board. the only other idiot ITT who has even heard of this shit didn't like it so I suggest you go someplace else
The thread is relevant to this board. Why are you angry?
No one here is shaming you for not being well read, sweetie.
Go to Cinemaphile right now and post an in-depth review of the book, that doesn't involve skimming the Wikipedia page. Do it. You won't because you can't.
Why so angsty? If you don't like the thread you can just leave.
And if you had anything of value to contribute you’d post an in-depth review, so I guess we both lose.
>if you don't like the thread just leave
he said, crying about people posting rude comments in a bait thread
I wish I knew how to convince you that I made this thread in earnest.
>acting like this bait thread isn't a bait thread
is gaslighting the only tool in your troll belt, along why seething that is
This is the best I can do man.
Talk to your doctor about heart disease.
Oh God am I dying?
Hopefully.
That isn't very nice.
you're already dead my literal Black person
i don't like anything post modern
go leave Black person homosexual, this is an Avengers board
This guy doesn’t read books.
This guy didn’t read the book. He gave up after 100 pages tops and then read through the R*ddit literature threads until he found one that resonated with his mediocre take on the first few pages because he wanted structure and felt like a moron flipping back and forth before giving up.
Book is based. Not the best ever, but a really good postmodern work. Great response to GR. Read more. Stop smoking weed.
Terry Gilliam or P.T.Anderson are the only ones alive who could do the book justice.
>he gave up after 100 pages tops and then read through the R*ddit literature threads until he found one that resonated with his mediocre take on the first few pages because he wanted structure and felt like a moron flipping back and forth before giving up.
see anon, it's not their fault that DFW and Pynchon have the prose skills of an artless moron. people respond to art, and there's no art to be had in pynchon; just guffaws and endless references and poor jokes with poorer punchlines. POMO lit was an exercise in sterility and we'll all be better off when it's safely forgotten.
>DFW and Pynchon have the prose skills of an artless moron
you're actually the moron who has a withered and exhausted attention span who can't follow a sentence that continues on for more than 5 words before having to reread it or just give up and skip on to the next, you think you're smart because you read through literature threads and you read reviews of books but you're still a mindless twit who can't appreciate good prose.
this
I got meme'd into reading it and the Infinite Jest is that anyone would actually finish the damn thing.
Like yeah if you were a pseud and hadn't read anything since you were in high school and you listen to pseud shit like NPR you'd think it was the greatest novel ever written. But DFW has asbolutely zero style or voice of his own. He just mimics what other authors have done generations before him much better. But people who are unfamiliar with older, more genius authors mistake his emulation for creativity.
He's the literary equivalent of Tarantino.
>He's the literary equivalent of Tarantino
Well I wasn't planning on reading it, but now you've convinced me to, thanks pal.
DFW is like the Radiohead of authors. You think he's great if you're just dipping your toes into reading literature, then the facade kind of dulls once you read more stuff, and some of it becomes hit or miss, but it's still decent for what it is
Damn what a sterling recommendation!
I enjoyed his essays a lot, but he had a habit of writing about a ton of stuff yet not making any real conclusions about it. Like you get the sense he is going to say something important but he never does. I think this is part of why he killed himself, you can see it even in his writing. For instance, "This Is Water" sounds very grandiose as a speech, but if you're actually struggling with life or mental issues it doesn't help.
>he had a habit of writing about a ton of stuff yet not making any real conclusions about it
That's just the ~~*postmodernism*~~ mental illness in general. I still enjoyed IJ.
Almost as if he liked the sound of his own literary voice... so much so that he published a book nearly 1000 pages that was trimmed down from 1300+... and that every character in it has the same pretentious inner monologue despite their background or level of education...
it must have been mild autism, ya know. who could think it's OK to come up with 1000 characters that all sound similar and have no strong distinction in voice? he's like the anti-dickens.
I think that's fair, his writing his heady enough to not make you feel stupid but palatable enough that it's obviously being written to entertain. This is kind of gone over in IF, the book doesn't take itself too seriously, it's funny pretty much the whole way through and ultimately is entertaining but not patronizing.
I wonder if he were alive he would have become one of those boomers with Ukraine flags on twitter.
He wrote an essay about the war hawk fever after 9/11 and admitted he fell for it, so probably.
His rolling stone articles are great if you want a taste before you dive in
That's postmodernism for you, anon
ebic take anon, show me a novel in the past 20 years that did what DFW accomplished with Infinite Jest.
It's a great work of comedy and literary rhetoric. It doesn't have to be some sort of over the top groundbreaking invention of literature. Honestly, the people who can't enjoy IF are likely so far up their own asses, they can't just enjoy something at face value.
There is nothing to enjoy in the book. You're asking anon to draw blood from a stone.
Why do you read? There's plenty to be enjoyed, if you pulled your head out of your ass and stopped reading it in the perspective of all its exaggerated praise.
Sorry I didn't find cross dressing daddy issues as an explanation for femcel on moron rape an enjoyable experience to read about. What parts did you like?
>not being able to relate to how awkwardly sexuality expresses itself in the traumatised and physically disabled
I enjoyed the well blended slapstick and cultural critiques. The annoyingly wordy yet relatable descriptions of scenery, atmosphere, emotion and familial experiences as found in characters big and small. I appreciate that he mentioned that blacks were often times more racist than whites, etc.
Maybe if you had an imagination, you could enjoy reading.
>They can't just enjoy something at face value.
The plot (if there even is one) is incredibly boring. It's pure narrative meandering. And worst of all the multiple stories barely overlap and none of them resolve.
And at face value, I just don't find the separate stories interesting. Maybe if I was a junkie and had more of an experience with addiction I'd find it compelling. But the fact that the author can't draw in an audience at the very least through a compelling style just goes to show how ineffective his writing is.
I suspect he simply wrote all his neuroses out about his addiction, his unease of media consumption, his experience with the tennis world, etc. and didn't know how to write anything else since he had no experience with it.
Wardeen be cry.
The ebonics parts are the best. Based Bandana head dabbing on nog
you probably thought house of leaves was amazing
Charlie Kauffman
One non-idiot itt
Actually a fantastic answer.
Kaufman is unironically too smart for Infinite Jest
Actually good answer.
Antkind reminded me a bit of Infinite Jest
Definitely the right answer. It would still be a tough task for one movie. Could see it as a limited series with an episode for each main character
I'm not trying to be hateful, but wouldn't it be cool if Director's bio's in wikipedia changed "J*wish" to "K*ke"? Not saying I wouldn't watch his film.
Gus Van Sant.
Honestly, Yorgos Lanthimos
I forgot about him, but he'd actually be perfect
Jordan Peele
Ari Aster
Robert Eggers
David Robert Mitchell
None. No director would. Are you happy now? Stop it. Stick to your homosexual board. Why do you have to subject yourself to this low effort posting, what do you gain from it?
xDDDD
I understand that it's a meme book so you think I'm shitposting but I'd consider it unfilmable and wanted to see if anyone thought otherwise. Sorry that upsets you.
It's never going to happen. Ever. You know this. Use your imagination.
I do know that anon. But that's why I made the thread. I wanted to see what some other people could come up with. It's not like I have anyone to talk about it with in real life.
Neil Breen
Jerry Lewis.
That's mean, and a little too on the nose.
I unironically believe DFW would have trooned out if he was alive today.
He shouldn't have taken his meds. The Pale King not being finished is criminal.
More like a little too on the NOOSE!
Haha.
Me
t. only knowledge of David Foster Wallace comes from Cinemaphile memes
Erich von Stroheim.
Only one director that is enough of a pretentious butthole.
NOLAN
only amerifats like this trash
the only eurochads who know about this book think is worse than the da vinci code
The only kino choice.
Tinto Brass?
>Orin
Ryan Gosling
>Hal
Jesse Eisenberg
>Mario
CGI
>Avril
Eva green
>Himself
Ciarán Hinds
>The Darkness
Timothee Chamalet
>Joelle
A pretty woman with a sexy voice
>Gately
Jonah Hill
>Hugh Steeply
Josh Brolin
>Remy Marathe
Willem Dafoe
Lmfao I hate you. How about John Wayne?
For some reason I pictured Mike Pemulis as looking like a teenage Jude Law when I read it. Also Hunty should play Joelle.
>Gately
>Jonah Hill
wat
Judd Apatow
It could never work as a movie, it'd have to be a miniseries.
Unironically Taika. There's a lot of characters and there's no better actor director working in Hollywood right now. But don't let him touch the script.
He literally won an oscar
Spielberg could do the Incandenza storyline well since all of his films are self-admittedly about broken families
Total hack fraud glad he killed himself
They would just have to only focus on the tennis academy bit and the halfway house bit. The Quebec separatist shit goes by the wayside
fricking tim burton is one of the only ones and it would suck, there's no way it can be made
i could do it
Kaufman. But he wouldn't do it because he already surpassed it with his own films.
the cohen brothers
whoever directed mathilda
ZACK SNYDER
judd apatow
Me.
>no directing debut as of yet
gtfo Goose
Paul ws Anderson
I always imagined Hal as Timothee Chalamet, but I think this would work better as an anime because it's too cartooney
Nicolas Winding Refn
Isn't this book about an Irish guy who pretends to be a noble or something but he's actually a gay and the reader is supposed to laugh. I don't know
Jordan Peele
Uwe Boll
>Nonsensical, unconnected plotlines
>Blurs between comedy and serious moments
>Unnecessarily long as frick
>A homage of other shite
>Juvenile; tries to be adult
Matt Reeves
I can sit down and watch a movie, play a videogame, or visual novel for 5 hours stright but an hour of a book is too exhausting
it really sucks because I want to engage with better long form story telling that's not limited to real world production hurdles that audio-visial media is, but the last real fiction book I finished was literally in highschool
Get a prescription for amphetamines
You just have to find something you want to read. Something that interests you. I know that's basic b***h advice, but sometimes that's all you need.
Well I like Steven Segal movies
Maybe I should start there
Read "The Futurological Congress" by Stanislaw Lem.
It's hard to really commit to reading. But it's like a muscle.
I would honestly start with an anthology of short stories to get you back to where you need to be. Just pick a compilation in whatever genre you like (you posted anime so you probably like sci-fi) so something like Philip K. Dick or Ray Bradbury would be a good place to start. The beauty of short-form fiction is that you're meant to read it in one sitting. So you don't really have to commit to something you don't like, you can always just skip to another story.
this
start with short, trashy, or easy to read books, stuff you read before
use the pomodoro technique and read for a certain measure of time, then take a quick break if you're bored, and return to it
eventually you'll stop wanting to take breaks
isn't that a little strange? for me there is no difference between reading a book and a VN, except that one is done on my phone and the other on the PC
it's basically the same thing, as long as it's a classic type of VN without real gameplay
Visual novels are to literature are what tiktoks are to cinema
I wasn't comparing VNs to "literature", merely pointing out that you need about as much focus to do either one
your reading comprehension is about as good as I'd expect from the average Cinemaphilecuck, though, well done
>isn't that a little strange? for me there is no difference between reading a book and a VN
try reading something like charles dicken's bleak house and try to wrap your head what a "VN" interpretation would look like. it's not a good enough medium to really capture the full potential of long-form prose.
try getting a nicotine vape and hitting it while you read
I liked the first chapter, the huge weed smoking preparation chapter, and the brother punter chapter, but eventually stopped because the other characters just weren't interesting enough.
Is it worth powering through another 100 pages for someone else exciting to show up?
Most of the characters that appear in the first 100 pages get decent amounts of development as the book goes on. I think the character development and exposition is one of the strong elements of the book
how is it "unfilmable"? what makes it so? or are bookgays just pretending
It's simply too much material to cover man. It'll never be done.
it's really not. the problem is that there isnt really a lot of plot momentum. Most of it is implied, and no one really wants to extract it. I could explain.
Please do. Would the story even be interesting to people? I can only imagine the format being a 5 season hour long episode show
definitely would be either a mini-series or a film.
the story itself is actually very short if you break it down.
>too much material
never a real problem. volume doesn't translate into worth. (and at some point, overt volume makes the thing lose worth.) if the author doesn't know how to trim their shit, somebody else with more competence can do a better job
>Film
It's gotta be a series bro.
What about pic related?
Unironically I think it could only be done as an anime. The prose and action is just too cartoonish to be accurately represented in film.
This is the last of the Cinemaphile memes I have yet to read.
hated both IJ and Blood Meridian
considering I just clearly hate pomos, is it even worth attempting?
I spent a whole summer reading it (checking Weisman's guide every other page), and it was well worth the effort. Pynchon has what is probably the most ambitious and yet coherent view on Western society and history that I've encountered in any novelist. When it clicks, it clicks like a million fricking bombs just went off on your doorstep. Plus it's legitimately funny and has some of the most jaw-dropping passages you'll ever read.
That said it is fricking hard. Way harder than Ulysses, which I would say is a good primer, just in terms of reading a dense epic tome that can't really be understood on its own terms. It's less like reading a book and more like solving a puzzle. If you're not a fan of researching every esoteric reference you come across, then I wouldn't recommend
"and has some of the most jaw-dropping passages you'll ever read."
yes, endless paragraphs ending in a fart joke and plots that don't particularly go anywhere. pynchon is the king of midwit Cinemaphile. DFW is the duke.
>If you're not a fan of researching every esoteric reference you come across, then I wouldn't recommend
Never was a problem to me. I'm just more concerned that the plot is not compelling and that I'm too dumb to understand all the scientific stuff. The only thing by Pynchon I've read was a short story called Entropy and I still don't know wtf it was about
There's a guide? Yeesh. Wish I'd known about that before I read the whole thing, over a whole summer, just like you.
I agree that once it clicks, it clicks. There was some point in the novel, before which I felt like I was constantly fighting against a tidal wave of non-sequiturs, character arcs going nowhere, tangents, narrative threads with no clear beginning or end, just all out delirious insanity. But after said unknowable point, it felt like I was going with the tidal wave, and everything came together. My eyes flew across the page and I felt like I was injecting pure human emotion into my veins through the book. I realize how reddit that sounds, but it's the closest feeling I can describe to the feeling of reading it. The actual narrative meaning of the words in context became less important than the mathematical structure of the prose and the sensory experience of it all. In some sense GR is the ultimate "look for the forest, not the trees" novel. And if that sounds like I just checked out and stopped caring about the plot, what's incredible is that I didn't. Somehow I remember more of the actual content of that book than nearly any other book I've ever read. When you remember the forest, you remember the trees too, I guess.
Man.. I haven't read a book since last year. I tried picking this book two/three weeks ago and got overwhelmed and dropped at where the Arab is having a tasy dinner and checking the video tape and his wife is out. How do i get back to reading? I can't just get away from these screens.
How old were you when you read it by the way?
PTA
Inherent Vice was fantastic
whoever does IJ must also do GR.
No one had any good suggestions in this thread.
the Wes Anderson & PTA suggestion were the closest we got.
Charlie Kaufman already did his adaptation with ant-kind.
Tommy Wiseau. Also producing, and writing, and starting in.
tried reading it, was really interesting but just way way way too long
>Jim Jarmusch
>Spike Jonze
>Yorgos Lathimos
More surreal the better. The more it frames the author's an hero as "yea frick this noise" the better. The more it trivializes what passes for contemporary literature like
the better
It’s long if you think there’s a destination you have to get to.
There isn’t, it’s the journey, each moment of precise observation.
Couple of pages a day, you’ll get there.
I feel like I could make IJ a good 10 episode miniseries on HBO Max, they should give the project to me. I also feel like I can properly adapt Blood Meridan into film. I got certain shots and scenes already composed in my mind for the both of them.
Anyone else have these delusions of grandeur or is just me?
oh no. I do that shit all the time. I’m certain I could compose a shot better than most cinematographers working today.
our whole generation is like this.
i would never say something like this unless someone asked.
Britta Berwig
I really like this book so far (almost 400 pages in) but if I had to make a complaint is that, sometimes it feels like DFW doesn't know what the average person talks like. It feels like most people in the book talk like college professors, even if they're like 8 or a hardcore drug addict . Maybe its just a Boston dialect thing that im missing out on idk
I also hope we see more of the weed addict from the 2nd chapter cause that shit hit close to home
I read it one paragraph at a time
I read Infinite Jest
Don't read it, it's literally a trash book, just utterly overflowing with filler
I like books with interesting prose and reincorporated themes even if the plot doesn't ad up to much. Plot can be an overrated feature in film and lit.
Funnily enough, to get the kind of hyper aware attention to detail… Maybe Snyder.
His obsession with slow mo might actually match well with the book.
>Snyder
>Attention to detail
Infinite Jest is literally the most enthralling, depressing and hilariously amazing book ever written, it feels like a miracle it even exists. It's way more layered than people give it credit for, it's really post-postmodern and it filters every pretentious homosexual who refuses to give it a chance. No director could give it justice, it should be left alone.
I don't really think its adaptable. This is the closest you are getting.
It also makes me think if it did happen it would play off more as Wes Anderson than Zack Snyder.
You could probably do something like a HBO series with The Pale King or do a Black Mirror type thing with Oblivion.
I've read it several times and you start to realise if anything its far too short. The D.T. Max biography is bracing reading and goes some way to explain it, in some ways its the autobiography of an extremely desperate liar. Its also the case that if DFW had lived he'd have been #metoo'd into oblivion anyway.
what did he even do
https://devonprice.medium.com/a-brief-on-hideous-things-about-david-foster-wallace-72034b20de94
Sadly this is also quite a childish piece. The attempts at the bottom to attack his writing are stupid and shit.
Someone please give me a rundown of this book in less than 1 sentence.
tennis, film and television analysis, and drug addiction
How would they do the footnotes?
Get rid of most of them and do a few cutaways
I got 500 pages in and threw it in the trash, yeah I "get" it. the book fricking sucks
The Pale King chads ww@
IJ was good too but TPK was pure kino
Spike Jonze
Noah Baumbach
Paul Thomas Anderson
Vincent Gallo. Not joking
>that "heartwarming" Mario story right at the end
DFW YOU HACK!
PTA
The Wachowski sisters
Abel Ferrara
Gaspar Noe
Cronenberg maybe
david robert mitchell
pta