It was probably exciting and fun in its day, but feels very dated now. It's a shame. Shots like this are pretty good at first glance, but if you watch more than once, the weird parts start standing out until it looks odd.
He's excellent, but not as a character designer. Titan A.E. has some great characters though.
It's weird, he can design a lot of exaggerated and unique characters, but can't design attractive characters. He sort of leans into the ugly for the sake of it being more cartoony.
>not a single frame of them standing still >not a single moment of cutting corners
Honestly beautiful. Not even most indie or internet animators would put in this much effort. And they only have to fill only a few minutes with action.
>not a single frame of them standing still
Honestly, I don't like that. It doesn't look natural. Even Disney realized the idea that animated characters have to be moving all the time was faulty.
It was probably exciting and fun in its day, but feels very dated now. It's a shame. Shots like this are pretty good at first glance, but if you watch more than once, the weird parts start standing out until it looks odd.
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The camera change was awkward
Delouise Dogs sigh/slump is over exaggerated and weird
This is like Oasis not being able to play like YES or ELP, so they go on a seething rant about technical prowess is actually bad and ambition is pretentious.
Frick off CalArts. His work has more life in it than Steven fricking Universe. Did I mention that he is also talented?
more reason to hate cal arts
There were segments in Bluth's work that seemed weightless, but it's part of the aesthetic and it works in the context of the whole film; you know you're watching a bluth based on the physics involved.
From an industry standpoint, it's a lot of work to make something look funny while you run behind schedule and go over budget. That's where the sighing comes from so I get it. Calarts is about making you an industry person first and foremost, making your work as simple and efficient as it needs to be.
This is how I actually felt as a kid born in 1991. The flowing animation is good but the guy will not stop waving folds of fat and fat lips in your face. His animation twerks at you
I quite like it, wish I had learned to draw eaelier in my life, would have probably replicated his art style, or that Bronze-age style Disney movies used
When it comes to art direction and score, this remains one of the greatest animated films of all time.
But come to think of it, a lot of Don Bluth's films wouldn't work half as well without their respective scores. No surprise looking at the names composing them. Burns, Horner, Holdsmith, Newman.
Don Bluth's style is still one my favorite in animated cinema up until Titan AE where it became apparent it doesn't change or evolve as time goes forward.
Love it I wish more films were done in his style there is a youtube that does limited animation shorts in his style with audio from Seinfeld and other media and it's pretty good. Don Bluth style is better then Disney in my opinion.
I hate how he insists on drawing nasolabial folds on characters at odd times and he also holds “oo” mouth shapes after a character is done talking which is weird.
Other than that, I can dig it.
His overall style and animations are good, but his villains are some of the least creative designs out there. I don't know why he keeps doing this specifically for villains. It doesn't matter if it's a dog, a penguin, or a reptile. He warps them all to look like this specific same cookie-cutter look. It's boring.
If I had to guess, it's because it helps the audience quickly figure out who the bad guy is. It didn't take me long to figure out that Carface was the bad guy in All Dogs when I was a kid, just by his general appearance
I figured that would be the case. I love Don's work, but this one thing glaring keeps me from calling his works perfect. Frick that penguin especially.
Really enjoy it. Bluth was a head of his time in regards to a lot of things. He's highly regarded as one of the greatest animators in history for a reason. Huge part of a lot of people's childhoods including mine.
His art and animation is fantastic. His sense for storytelling and especially for characters is considerably less so. Especially his need to keep putting lisping kids into his movies.
Don Bluth makes me feel molested. Now I don’t know if that’s because his VHS were on in so many strange uncomfortable day cares and child waiting rooms, or if it’s because the constant bear hugs from increasingly slovenly and fat bottomed characters, but there is a sense of intimate touch to his work that isn’t always nice. I’m fairly sure I’ve never been molested by the way
Nah, I just don’t have any stories like that. I’ll tell you though I saw Matilda in the waiting room of a child psychologist while my mom was looking into an ADD diagnosis. It was the scene where she blows up the tv and now forever I think of that whole movie as appealing way to hard to edgy kids. It’s also no surprise that veggie tales smells like piss and lots of bleach because you’d usually see it in some Christian day care setting where some poor woman spends her whole day changing other parents childrens’ diapers
It feels extremely "specialized" if that makes sense. Like it's very good at what it does, but it only really works in the very narrow context of the kinds of movies he was making.
SOUL
This
It was probably exciting and fun in its day, but feels very dated now. It's a shame. Shots like this are pretty good at first glance, but if you watch more than once, the weird parts start standing out until it looks odd.
What weird parts?
The camera change was awkward
Delouise Dogs sigh/slump is over exaggerated and weird
>Delouise Dogs sigh/slump is over exaggerated
I don't know how to tell you this but... it's a cartoon
>Feels very dated
Frick off back to your inevitably dated in a year danger hair protag noodle limb disposable shit
Lots of buzzwords and no substance.
It's weird, he can design a lot of exaggerated and unique characters, but can't design attractive characters. He sort of leans into the ugly for the sake of it being more cartoony.
his human girls are hot, yes, even the fat ones
I hate them too but cool it with the buzzwords
no such thing as a "dated" artstyle.
ok calarts universe
>dated
you're just not used to seeing actual good animation.
>Dates
If you call something that is this expressive as dated, then something is wrong with you.
YOU JUST KNOW
Dog x e-girl art when?
>not a single frame of them standing still
>not a single moment of cutting corners
Honestly beautiful. Not even most indie or internet animators would put in this much effort. And they only have to fill only a few minutes with action.
>not a single frame of them standing still
Honestly, I don't like that. It doesn't look natural. Even Disney realized the idea that animated characters have to be moving all the time was faulty.
I disagree
It actually makes the characters feel like they're alive instead of cardboard standins
Dunning kruger
Yep.
It insists upon itself.
more reason to hate cal arts
Yes.
Frick off CalArts. His work has more life in it than Steven fricking Universe. Did I mention that he is also talented?
funny because toniko tries to copy don bluth over-flowiness while spitting on him
This is like Oasis not being able to play like YES or ELP, so they go on a seething rant about technical prowess is actually bad and ambition is pretentious.
There were segments in Bluth's work that seemed weightless, but it's part of the aesthetic and it works in the context of the whole film; you know you're watching a bluth based on the physics involved.
From an industry standpoint, it's a lot of work to make something look funny while you run behind schedule and go over budget. That's where the sighing comes from so I get it. Calarts is about making you an industry person first and foremost, making your work as simple and efficient as it needs to be.
This is how I actually felt as a kid born in 1991. The flowing animation is good but the guy will not stop waving folds of fat and fat lips in your face. His animation twerks at you
this guy is such a hack. his animation looks awful.
>Cal arts laughing in classrooms while Chad bluth making cinema dollars on the big screen
Keep laughing in poor
I quite like it, wish I had learned to draw eaelier in my life, would have probably replicated his art style, or that Bronze-age style Disney movies used
The best time to start was ten years ago. The second best time is now
i bet his institute fell through
He likes purposely ugly characters a little too much.
He's excellent, but not as a character designer. Titan A.E. has some great characters though.
I personally don't like it, especially his dinosaurs. He has a weird obsession with wrinkles and bumps
>wrinkles and bumps
So he's a fat fetishist?
When it comes to art direction and score, this remains one of the greatest animated films of all time.
But come to think of it, a lot of Don Bluth's films wouldn't work half as well without their respective scores. No surprise looking at the names composing them. Burns, Horner, Holdsmith, Newman.
>a lot of Don Bluth's films wouldn't work half as well without their respective scores.
That is true of 95% of all American cinema.
Okay, maybe 90%.
love it. princess daphne, space princess kimberly, and of course nimh. titan ae was pretty good.
He made me attracted to rodents
Don Bluth's style is still one my favorite in animated cinema up until Titan AE where it became apparent it doesn't change or evolve as time goes forward.
The "curving-inward face" expression was the DreamWorks "raised-eyebrow smirk" expression of the 90s.
He makes interesting waifu designs.
I like the sparkle effects.
Why they stop doing that?
Guess is they started making most cartoons super bright so it doesnt stand out anymore.
He apes Milt Kahl too much, but it's not terrible.
Also, this thread is semi-low effort.
No.
I like it
some of his more exaggerated designs like the alligator don't gel well with me but his general style I like a ton
Love it I wish more films were done in his style there is a youtube that does limited animation shorts in his style with audio from Seinfeld and other media and it's pretty good. Don Bluth style is better then Disney in my opinion.
I hate how he insists on drawing nasolabial folds on characters at odd times and he also holds “oo” mouth shapes after a character is done talking which is weird.
Other than that, I can dig it.
it's certainly better than 2D Dreamworks' art style
Wannabe Disney that only furries like and droopy animation.
That's because he used to work for Disney
>same twitter screencap posted twice instead of posting your own opinions
cancer
I never liked it as a kid. Something always felt off
His overall style and animations are good, but his villains are some of the least creative designs out there. I don't know why he keeps doing this specifically for villains. It doesn't matter if it's a dog, a penguin, or a reptile. He warps them all to look like this specific same cookie-cutter look. It's boring.
If I had to guess, it's because it helps the audience quickly figure out who the bad guy is. It didn't take me long to figure out that Carface was the bad guy in All Dogs when I was a kid, just by his general appearance
I figured that would be the case. I love Don's work, but this one thing glaring keeps me from calling his works perfect. Frick that penguin especially.
Some people just really just do not like villains.
The penguin with teeth will always bother me.
Big lipped alligator moment is real and it can hurt you
Quads of pain
He draws bombshells like no other.
And it's a shame, because the people who try to imitate his art style completely forget that.
I love it. I think peak Bluth art style is Thumbelina, but I'm biased towards how pretty it is. It puts a lot of Disney Princess movies to shame.
Artstyle is basically like Disney but his animation and way he draws characters feels more soulful.
Really enjoy it. Bluth was a head of his time in regards to a lot of things. He's highly regarded as one of the greatest animators in history for a reason. Huge part of a lot of people's childhoods including mine.
His art and animation is fantastic. His sense for storytelling and especially for characters is considerably less so. Especially his need to keep putting lisping kids into his movies.
Don Bluth makes me feel molested. Now I don’t know if that’s because his VHS were on in so many strange uncomfortable day cares and child waiting rooms, or if it’s because the constant bear hugs from increasingly slovenly and fat bottomed characters, but there is a sense of intimate touch to his work that isn’t always nice. I’m fairly sure I’ve never been molested by the way
I thought this was gonna go the direction of that one anon who got raped by a janny while watching a Superted VHS
Nah, I just don’t have any stories like that. I’ll tell you though I saw Matilda in the waiting room of a child psychologist while my mom was looking into an ADD diagnosis. It was the scene where she blows up the tv and now forever I think of that whole movie as appealing way to hard to edgy kids. It’s also no surprise that veggie tales smells like piss and lots of bleach because you’d usually see it in some Christian day care setting where some poor woman spends her whole day changing other parents childrens’ diapers
Way too specific Anon
That’s the way it is
There's also a funny fact that he voice of Fievel in he dtv films was molested
I've never liked. As a kid it always felt like the worst part of Disney stuff. Usually stayed clear from Bluth stuff.
A bit of sameface syndrome with the expressions but its fine, less static than current standards
It feels extremely "specialized" if that makes sense. Like it's very good at what it does, but it only really works in the very narrow context of the kinds of movies he was making.