What does it say about the state of the industry when you’ve got people saying “can we get our stories turned into anime?”
What does it say about the state of the industry when youve got people saying can we get our stories turned into anime?
What does it say about the state of the industry when you’ve got people saying “can we get our stories turned into anime?”
Powerpuff Girls Z was in 2006?
So basically "hey get Japanese studio to do it instead of South Korea"
That the artists with talent switched to indie, porn, or even straight up moving to Japan to work on anime.
Like the good times
SPBP
The only difference is Japan studios instead of South Korean studios
as someone who doesn't know anything about animation why don't they hire Chinese and Indians to do it like every other industry does
Joke's on them, they outsource to South Korea too
I just wanna see an isekai fantasy anime with beavis and butthead
That's one isekai I'd watch
Bevis and Butthead do Isekai. Bevis is a cleric and his patron god is Cornholio and Butthead is a rogue who's specked into strength so he can't steal anything and his base stats as a rogue make him a shitty physical fighter too.
That kinda just Konosuba
Do Japs even know about these? I just assume exces paid a shitload of money to do them.
Animation is animation. regardless of what part of the world its made.
how is that version of jenny, "anime""?
animated by you yoshinari
animated by japanese studio = anime
simple as
Works for me.
The term "anime" isnt defined yet.
To some "anime" means style.
To others "anime" means country of origin.
>To some "anime" means style.
normies mutts and newbies
Who cares?
If your definition excludes Crayon Shin-chan from being anime, you have objectively fricked up.
That gif was made by Yoh Yoshinaril it’s Japanese. Also when the frick are we getting a MLAATR anime?
>Also when the frick are we getting a MLAATR anime?
Hopefully never because all of the characters especially the MC are annoying as frick.
have a nice day.
Is the Scott Pilgrim anime even an actual "anime"? It just seemed like it had the style from the comic.
It's beong done by a Japanese studio so yes. A proper, real anime by definition.
That sucks, I won't watch it now
Was the old Tiny Toons anime?
How much of it was animated in Japan?
anime has a certain use of perspective and shots that is uncommon in cartoons, regardless of the style they use, idk is more stylistic and 3dimensional
Not sure if this was always a problem in the west or its been only the latest trend, but if you put the Japs in charge of your production you are gonna get exactly what you ask for, for better or worse. Whether adapting trash or gold they'll respect the source material and their draftsmen(who are just better on average) will give it that sleek edge to boot. Put a western studio in charge of production,however, then you got a 50-75% chance of them just taking a big fat shit on the original source and use your property as an excuse to get their OWN shows on the ground and use the property as a means to an end, akin to a skin walker.
Usually a combination of greedy execs who dont care about the source, burnt out liberal art students who got their pitch shot down and dont want to actually work on a given property, and animators who who are increasingly lacking in talent over the years as far as draftsmanship is concerned.
If I ever had the money to drop and the connections to get an idea off the ground like that guy who made that Shelter MV, Id choose a jap studio over western any fricking day.
>Whether adapting trash or gold they'll respect the source material and their draftsmen(who are just better on average) will give it that sleek edge to boot.
Tell that to Ballmasterz. Frick right off with this tripe.
What's wrong with that show?
Nothing, the show's fantastic. Problem is they collabbed with Japanese studio Studio4C for Rubicon, and it's a shameless downgrade in every conceivable way. They turned one of the most unique shows in years and turned it into generic slop, the animators at 4C literally said the original designs were "too hard to animate" so the designs had to be simplified to the point of unrecognizability. I don't want to hear SHIT about Japanese studios "respecting the source material" or whatever horseshit when that embarrassment exists.
Well that's unfortunate then, and yeah, I'm not sure how anyone could seriously believe that Japanese studios always respect the source material beyond a weird belief about how the Japanese always do it best, Howl's Moving Castle was a good movie but it's wildly different from the book it's supposed to be an adaptation of.
>Howl's Moving Castle
literally one of the worst ghibli movies
The best Ghibli movie is technically not even a Ghibli movie.
Castle of Cagliostro is one of the most fun animated movies ever, it doesn't get boring even after you've seen it 10 times, but I wouldn't say it's the best ghibili movie ever. Ghibli movies excel at atmosphere and at relaxing your inner mind, so I would say that something like only yesterday or kiki is their best.
as much of a boring hack as Miyazaki is, I will say that is a great flick even if he does heavily water down all of the iconic characters. The soundtrack is also way better than most of ghibli's generic orchestra music but I guess that makes sense when you literally have one of the most talented and prestigious Jazz composers working on your film.
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>mfw when cartoongays will almost never have music as kino as this
I sometimes pity Cinemaphile gays,
Why are you even here you obnoxious homosexual go back to Cinemaphile if you want to sperg out about how your variety of cartoons is so much better.
This looks like it was inspired by studio trigger which is one of the worst Jap studios therefore this cartoon is also inherently shit as well.
>moshi moshi studio 4c?, Alex Mcberger here, I remember you working on the animatrix, my intern said this to me, the animatrix was sooo big, and I don't know any other stuff associated with westerners, but either way we have this amazing show we want you to animate
*proceeds showing picrel to the animators*
>animators think (what is this kuso dlawing is it made by todlel? Lepulsive shit, whele is beauty? Whele is design fol animation? Did they just dlaw some landom janky shit in adobe?)
>Oh vely intelesting ploject Mcberger-San, what would be budget?
>Well you know, how cost have soared and we can't really afford to spend much so we are in a tight budget, is 50k fine?
>vely well, oul studio is dead since like the 2010, and the budget is 5 times under market price, but fine
>Ok perfect then as we agreed 30k it is, looking forward to seeing the work
>Oh solly Mcberger San westeln talent so big we can't animate it like that we need to simplify designs sumimasen
>Fine fine but hurry since we need it for next week.
Or at least this is how I imagine the converstation went
My man, studio 4c's memories blows like 99% of western animation out of water lol.
God a MLAATR anime would be so beautiful. A perfect melding of peak western characters with superior eastern storytelling and animation. it would be especially great if they kept allot of the art deco style, melding it with the more detailed anime style. Ahhh, a man can dream.
>Superior eastern storytelling
Anon MLAATR is just a softer and more lighthearted Mazinger Z that happens to be made in America, I love both series but MLAATR with “superior eastern storytelling” would not be anything new in the slightest.
I mean animaics used to do it and it looks 100 times better than the shitty modern seasons, what's the probably exactly.
It's basically a desperate plea to not have any Am*ricans on your production team since they are a culture that worships ugliness and weakness
American here, you're not wrong. Japan could make the few good stories we have made better and prettier.
God you're such a cuck, not every story looks good or needs to be animated you moron.
Horror anime are all dogshit without exception.
Hey that's not true, Shiki was okay.
I loved those beards and hair styles
I don't know how they managed to put so many over the top hair styles in such a grim anime, but somehow it didn't manage to detract too much from the tone.
>Horror anime are all dogshit without exception
not true
Kitaro stuff is not horror in the same way scooby doo is not horror. The morphing animation in the 90s(?) series is excellent though.
i’m no strategist, but something tells me the animation industry needs a more fair and balanced workforce and fanbase if they wanna get back in the game
Wow what a strange a novel concept that has never happened before.
The TMS episodes of the DCAU were always a highlight.
Oh that episode wasn't animated by TMS anon, it was animated by Studio Ghibli.
No it wasn't.
https://dcau.fandom.com/wiki/Feat_of_Clay
I was talking about World's Finest.
That’s like saying a Trigger anime has nothing to do with Gainax
Not even similar.
Character designs, storyboards, almost all aspect of it was done by Westerners. Then outsource it to TMS to finish the legwork.
In OP case, its a Japanese production team making something based off a Western property.
It's still being written by westerners and the character designs are done by the west too.
Swat Kats was also animated by japanese studio
Is anyone scared of the cultural impact this is going to have? This younger generation does not need to know who Ramona Flowers or Scott Pilgrim is, especially with TikTok narcissism.
Most people know that Western animation fricking sucks so why would anyone deep down want it to be made by Americans? Nobody even likes Western animation, most of the world rejects it these days. Most people feel this deep down. Why would you want the morons who inhabit Cinemaphile to make something? Knowing the Japanese are making it fills your
This is of course a bad trend, because this is an entry way for Westerners and their stupid behavior to shit on anime in general. After all, Westerners sure love to latch onto something, yet actively despise the reason about why they love it in the first place. Westerners make woke lesbians and troons show, but those same woke lesbians and troon westerners don't like it, so they latch onto anime/manga that happens to feature genderbending/lesbians, but then they get mad when they realize that the reason they even like it so much is because the Japanese understand reality is not fiction, and that inclusions of genderbending or lesbians isn't some endorsement of it for reality, and then they get all mad like with G Witch and the marriage thing, a situation that would never happen if Westerners made them, because of Westerners don't segregate fantasy from reality. When Westerners include lesbians and troons in their work, the principal purpose is to promote and normalize and endorse it as something that should exist in reality. Good writing and appeal to fantasy takes 0 precedence, especially if it conflicts with the principal purpose.
Nobody likes Western animation
And the best part that its actually impossible for you to fix it. See, the problems are way more systematic so it wouldn't matter if a group of people noticed the problem and tried to make an effort to fix it. You are doomed. You are out-competed, and if Donghua decides to exploit the niches that Westerners once could, then you are utterly doomed.
To be fair, the Anglo world never really liked animation much. Its the main reason why animation and comics have always been smaller. They like real life, so all their efforts were exerted on live action movies,
have a nice day.
Why do you go here?
And why hasn’t he killed himself yet?
they hated him because he said the truth
>and then they get all mad like with G Witch and the marriage thing
t. shōnenspic
You probably unironically jerk off DBZ as an example of good anything, you're a moron with zero idea on what you're talking about.
as if that had changed since the 80s. TMS had been doing some gruntwork for WB for a while now and theReturn of the Joker movie might as well be an anime adaptation instead with all the heavy lifting they had with it
They should’ve gotten more jobs because Return if The Joker looked great.
i don't know if WB still give them contracts but if their modern stuff says anything they probably dropped them for koreans now
Well that sucks, at least they did some good stuff before WB kicked them to the curb.
>TMS
best anime studio followed by Madhouse, Sunrise, and then Toei
that western animation fans are braindead and dont know what they want or are asking for
what would be the point or benefit at all to a show like mlaatr becoming an anime? ppgz is proof that a very stylized western show will shit the bed if made into a conventional stereotypical anime
MLAATR is practically already an anime.
>ppgz is proof that a very stylized western show will shit the bed if made into a conventional stereotypical anime
In the other hand, something like Scooby Doo could use a fun anime take.
Lots of Marvel/DC comics runs that could use anime adaptations
>In the other hand, something like Scooby Doo could use a fun anime take.
so they can have shitty background art? No thanks.
How old is that background, Anon?
Have you seen the stuff anime does for backgrounds when they actually try?
Shit is beautiful
>when they actually try?
So nothing from the last two decades or so.
Just like cartoons, for all the autism there is about which variety of animation is better both Western and Eastern cartoons have been going to shit for ages now.
I miss when anime had good color schemes in their backgrounds. Now every anime has the same boring ass looking buildings that look copy and pasted across 500 other different anime.
here's one from cowboy bebop
Watch Kino's journey. Fantastic color pallete. Also better than 99.99% of western cartoons.
yes I hate that we don't have them anymore
my favorite aesthetic in particular is California crisis but it's stuck in VHS hell and needs a proper HD restoration
I wish the west had proper adult animation.
Watch more anime.
Those are some amazing backgrounds.
famBlack person posted one right here
. Also mushishi he phenomenal backgrounds.
>famBlack person posted one right here
That show is over 20 years old
>october 2003
I refuse to talk with someone that doesn't know basic maths. Go back to school you moronic 3rd worlder.
It's 2023. That was 20 years ago you fricking idiot. It's an old anime.
>idiot
Don't you dare call me that way, you filthy son of a prostitute.
Look at studio Pablo, even their lowest of the low backgrounds look nice enough
When they do weird Landscapes is when they truly shine
Anyone know what this style is called? I see it a lot in old 1940's Tom and Jerry cartoons too. Oddly realistic
traditional painting, maybe oil a forgotten art in cartoons
Anon this shit looks older than Scooby Doo itself.
>insulting anime on background art
fricking kek, the delusion
Yeah because generic tokyo city background art in most anime is good, right? I swear it's almost as if they get the same artists for every single show to do the same exact shots and they all look bland.
Aren't there any american studios capable of better output/quality than anime? It's been like 40 years and japan still has all that still frame and corner cutting shit but everybody holds them up as the gold standard for some reason
>It's been like 40 years and japan still has all that still frame and corner cutting
The thing that was invented by hb? The thing that is used in 99% of all animated series no matter where they are made?
>It's been like 40 years and japan still has all that still frame and corner cutting shit but everybody holds them up as the gold standard for some reason
the opposite happens with 3d animation. Spiderverse did all of that and they holdit up ike it was the second coming of Christ for animation while 3d anime doing those are summarily dismissed
People have low standards.
>It's been like 40 years and japan still has all that still frame and corner cutting shit but everybody holds them up as the gold standard for some reason
You're moronic when it comes to knowledge of how animation works. ALL animated programs cut corners. The big difference is that Japanese animation at one point consistently put out the highest quality animation in the days when America's most popular cartoons were done by Filmation and other horribly animated action figure cartoons. Nowadays it's a toss up.
>japan wins westerncucks by doing nothing
many such cases.
American studios have incentives to include nonwhites and non straights so no, by the metrics of this board none are capable of competing with grorious nippon
Japanese studios are far more incompetent than America. Toriyama made Goku grow up against his editor's wishes in Dragonball and hates Toei for making him a moral gay. The OG Pokemon writer wanted the show to be an adventure. He wanted Ash and Gary to be the main characters, constraints and demand for the formula were priority. Kubo whined that editors forced him to do their plots.
>Japanese studios are far more incompetent than America. Toriyama made Goku grow up against his editor's wishes in Dragonball
wait are you saying Toriyama was in the wrong or his editor
His editor was wrong. Toriyama said that Dragonball became all action and drew Goku taller to make Goku an action hero. Toriyama's second editor seemed more reasonable with his own flaw being demanding each Z villain be stronger than the last.
>Japanese studios are far more incompetent than America
Lol. My man. Pokemon makes more money in one day than your entire family did in all of their lives. For the pokemon company 10 million euros is pocket change. They are literally the opposite of incompetent. They are geniuses.
Goku's always been kind of a moralgay though? It's a part of who he is, he might be a bloodthirsty idiot who loves fighting, but he's not heartless, he cares about his friends and family and even at his worst he still values the lives of innocent people and does what he can to protect them.
Toei Goku is the moral gay. Toriyama writes Goku more as a hick with ChiChi, Gohan and Goten being as ignorant as Goten. The first dub just made Goku smarter. The only outlier is the Canadian dub were Goku is still dumb surfer dude.
Toriyama is a senile moron and forgot about SSJ being a transformation awakened by rage at seeing his friend die
Goku was never a amoral sociopath
With all the anime bullshit being inserted into cartoons and just straight up anime being made about comics it just goes to show how little the people involved in these projects care about cartoons.
Asian labor makes the stuff for cheap as frick so the bosses are happy, the weeb morons responsible to writing , designing and storyboarding this shit get their animes, its a win win for people who never gave a single shit about this stuff in the first place.
>animeslop wins by doing nothing
yes but ehmm... we have goblin shortstacks and ehm... furry waifus okay? now stfu weeb
I wish he'd make more MLAATR drawings, ah well, at least the few Yoh made were fantastic.
my life as a teenage thotbot was a fricking mediocre show even when it was still on and anyone who isn't a moronic coomer knows that. That shit was slightly better than the likes of Squirrel Boy but it was never going to be a classic.
Man this cute cartoon sure manages to find a way to make homosexuals and incels seethe, how does she do it?
That era of nickelodeon was shit in general. The only new cartoon that was decent when MLaaTR was airing was Catscratch. Mid-late 2000s Nickelodeon was a very dark time.. Same really could be said about Cartoon Network and Disney as welL. American cartoons really suffered during that time for whatever reason.
All Grown Up
My Life as a Teenage Robot
Danny Phantom
Avatar: The Last Airbender
Catscratch
The X's
El Tigre
Tak and the Power of Juju
Back at the Barnyard
The Mighty B!
The Penguins of Madagascar
Fanboy & Chum Chum
Planet Sheen
Every Nick cartoon from 2003-2010. Just an avalanche of garbage.
I never understood why anyone liked Danny Phantom. That wasn't all that great either but then again I also think FoP is overrated and Butch Hartman is a hack outside of his work on Johnny Bravo. I can sorta see why the kids younger than me enjoy Avatar and I think Catscratch is pretty underrated but the rest of those cartoons are truly forgettable.
Jesus, that is some lousy bait, I thought Summer was supposed to be coming to a close.
MLAATR thread? Mlaatr thread!
I wish.
so is thread now about posting shitty twitter art of bad cartoons?
Cry more pajeet
Cry more!
did you get this one from tumblr? I ask because of the color scheme
Nah, saw that posted on a thread here, apparently someone on DA made that.
I was making fun of you for posting tumblr looking art but I can see you think it's unironically fine to share tumblr art
Is it possible for someone to have such bad tastes?
Maybe if you're blind.
Turn into anime basically just means “make it have less frames”
Also make it look stylistically Eastern.
Less frames, loads of panning shots and static scenes
To mask this designs need to be better looking and backgrounds made prettier, inner monologues also help to mask the lack of animation
I'm honestly amazed at how well it works in execution if you like the characters on screen
West is dead
I'm waiting for the day when idol vtubers, like the ones from Hoe-girlve, will start voicing Western animations, making animation and voicework more profitable and attractive. The exportation of idol culture beyond Japan will be a good thing, especially for Cinemaphile.
>I'm waiting for the day when idol vtubers, like the ones from Hoe-girlve, will start voicing Western animations
can't tell if you're baiting or not but I'm going to assume you are
How so?
It's an honest question.
He's being a moron
I see
I really fail to see how idolshit infecting anything can be a positive.
Sexo Brit
Powerpuff girls had an anime
>westerners ruin western animation by making it garbage LGBTQ fanfiction
>lets copy the east instead
Lmao this is sad
batman has been doing it for a long time
>releasing November 17
Oh shit, so soon? I thought this show was an urban legend.
>anime
Does it mean it's gonna look like slideshow crap?
A lot of modern American animators who are active on social media were born in the 80s, which means they grew up during the anime boom in the US. Even though they grew up to work on western cartoons, a lot of their early art-learning years (tweens/teens) were likely spent with them absorbed in watching and copying DBZ, Sailor Moon, Pokémon, Gundam, Tenchi Muyou, Inu Yasha, etc, so the idea of anime being the peak of artistic expression is still deeply ingrained, even if they went on to draw completely different stuff in their animation career.
Western garbage is not and will not ever be anime.
Are we ever gonna get animators that were influenced by Looney Tunes, Tom and Jerry, old CN shows, etc rather than anime?
You get them pretty often. A lot of indie animators make slapstick comedy stuff inspired exactly by that. Even mainstream ones do it. ttgo actually has plenty of western humor, a bit more modernized, but sometimes still inline with old stuff.
We used to.
Now it's just talentless zoomers influenced by beanmouth garbage.
People want American style animation, but it's open secret that the studios here are giant clownshows.
>People want American style animation
Proof?
We're really at the point where anything that isn't family guy type shit is considered anime
All the kids who watch 4kids dubs are moving into the industry, so expect more of this stuff to come. Quality will depend on who's in charge though.
It's pretty fricking sad isn't it?
Means we want to set the artists behind Primos on fire.
It says they ran out of hungarians to make their cartoons.