That's not Sauron's vision though. Sauron would rather turn the entire Middle-Earth into a hyper optimized Factorio campaign instead of le globohomosexual burger dystopia. Sauron wanted efficiency and industrialization and wouldn't really care how many innocents suffered as long as the gears kept turning.
Isn't that literally how things work nowadays? So in the end Sauron won the Middle Earth after all since LoTR is suppsoed to be ancient history of Earth
The world is definitely NOT hyper optimized and efficient right now. In Sauron's vision all welfare leeches would be put into factories and manual labor and shit like humanities/art/"soft sciences" would be nonexistent because that gets in the way of productivity.
Assuming he won: >turn middle earth into massive factorio map >you're immortal therefore in charge forever
What now? You think he'd get bored at some point? The struggle for power is more motivating then running things, plus he'd mostly have just dumb orcs to chat with.
>Sauron wanted efficiency and industrialization and wouldn't really care how many innocents suffered as long as the gears kept turning.
That's literally what that image shows
If he takes over the western kingdoms, he's not going to be able to keep them happy and productive without mcdonalds and football tv. The whip can only get you so far. He could genocide them all, but then what is the point?
Where there's a whip, there's a way. Some fat frick gorging on McD and watching sportsball is not productive and would be whipped into shape or culled.
Pretty much this. The autistics that say that arts and shit are useless as they post on a film board for hours on end, I mean even geniuses like me need to unwind after a long day.
>he's not going to be able to keep them happy
Why tf would he care about that? He has orcs who will gladly do his bidding without any cajoling.
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Sauron could literally just keep building industry in Mordor until it's so useful that others beg to buy from him and use his products. But that's not enough. Sauron wants all beings to be his subjects, love him, and work for him. He managed to take over the Easterlings and make them fight for him. Guaranteed that he wants to do it to the west as well, but once the battle is done, what really is there that keeps people happy with his rule and doing the demanding things he order?
More than anything, he wanted control. Absolute, utter and total control over every minute aspect of life (and un-life as well, necromancer ya know). Basically Sauron is a control freak of epic proportions, literally. That's a big difference between him and his master, Morgoth, who only ever wanted to corrupt and destroy (since he was unable to truly create).
I think partly it's because Melkor is so powerful that mere control doesn't really appeal to him. He has blotted out the light of Arda and in his fury he can sunder continents, raze mountains and sow discord in the very fabric of reality. Why would he care about controlling the life of an ant or a human? He can snuff out the life of thousands in an instant.
Whereas Sauron is a lot weaker (though interestingly he is debateably less of a coward than Melkor) so he desires to control his surroundings. Well, that's just my enterpretation.
This memereaks of still trying to fit in to mspaint culture. Like the elf is purposely bad but not in a way a mspaint artist would be, and the sauron is too good.
Shill memes always feel uncanny
It's because it uses NuMSPaint which defaults to the anti-aliased brush that the fill tool can't handle properly. It's SOULLESS
It’s not that, the shill purposely made her skull off shape to make it look amateur but that is the one thing you would get right as a meme Maker
Anon who made the original meme here (just trust me bro). I haven't even watched the show, but I have lurked the threads since I am somewhat interested in it because I like Tolkien. I just got the idea to make this meme because the idea and the possibility that they would make Galadriel fall in love with bad boy Sauron felt so hilarious. Then I just used the arthoe wojak as a template since I thought it fit here.
In short, you are overthinking it all anon and are literally obsessed.
Sauron simply wants complete control over Middle-earth. He has a thing for order and efficiency, which he would achieve through industrialization. Compare that to Morgoth, who wanted to destroy all of creation.
Didn't he genuinely think they could do it? I thought that was his legitimate shot at getting the Valar to stay away from his sandbox, and to be fair to him he probably wasn't going to get a better one.
He didn't.
Realistically Numenor would have conquered Valinor or at least provoked the Valar into destroying their own continent. Sauron had won and it was only because Eru intervened, which had never once happened before, that he lost.
He knew the Numenorean fleet would be smited leaving him with total power over the civilisation, I don't think he expected the entire island to get smited too while he was still on it.
If Sauron's vision is that then what would be Saruman's vision?
Manager at McDonald's
You REALLY don't want to know
>that rant about all colors
>seething when mentioned the color white
what was his problem
What did Tolkien mean by this?
His robe refracted light like the back of a CD. That's what he was going for.
That's not Sauron's vision though. Sauron would rather turn the entire Middle-Earth into a hyper optimized Factorio campaign instead of le globohomosexual burger dystopia. Sauron wanted efficiency and industrialization and wouldn't really care how many innocents suffered as long as the gears kept turning.
Isn't that literally how things work nowadays? So in the end Sauron won the Middle Earth after all since LoTR is suppsoed to be ancient history of Earth
The world is definitely NOT hyper optimized and efficient right now. In Sauron's vision all welfare leeches would be put into factories and manual labor and shit like humanities/art/"soft sciences" would be nonexistent because that gets in the way of productivity.
Assuming he won:
>turn middle earth into massive factorio map
>you're immortal therefore in charge forever
What now? You think he'd get bored at some point? The struggle for power is more motivating then running things, plus he'd mostly have just dumb orcs to chat with.
Imagine an immortal autist with unlimited lego blocks.
Based moron
I'm right though.
>Sauron wanted efficiency and industrialization and wouldn't really care how many innocents suffered as long as the gears kept turning.
That's literally what that image shows
No it's not.
If he takes over the western kingdoms, he's not going to be able to keep them happy and productive without mcdonalds and football tv. The whip can only get you so far. He could genocide them all, but then what is the point?
Where there's a whip, there's a way. Some fat frick gorging on McD and watching sportsball is not productive and would be whipped into shape or culled.
Pretty much this. The autistics that say that arts and shit are useless as they post on a film board for hours on end, I mean even geniuses like me need to unwind after a long day.
>he's not going to be able to keep them happy
Why tf would he care about that? He has orcs who will gladly do his bidding without any cajoling.
Sauron could literally just keep building industry in Mordor until it's so useful that others beg to buy from him and use his products. But that's not enough. Sauron wants all beings to be his subjects, love him, and work for him. He managed to take over the Easterlings and make them fight for him. Guaranteed that he wants to do it to the west as well, but once the battle is done, what really is there that keeps people happy with his rule and doing the demanding things he order?
>Sauron is the Once-ler
Now I see who Tom Bombadil was supposed to be
Imagine if Ted lived in the Middle Earth.
More than anything, he wanted control. Absolute, utter and total control over every minute aspect of life (and un-life as well, necromancer ya know). Basically Sauron is a control freak of epic proportions, literally. That's a big difference between him and his master, Morgoth, who only ever wanted to corrupt and destroy (since he was unable to truly create).
I think partly it's because Melkor is so powerful that mere control doesn't really appeal to him. He has blotted out the light of Arda and in his fury he can sunder continents, raze mountains and sow discord in the very fabric of reality. Why would he care about controlling the life of an ant or a human? He can snuff out the life of thousands in an instant.
Whereas Sauron is a lot weaker (though interestingly he is debateably less of a coward than Melkor) so he desires to control his surroundings. Well, that's just my enterpretation.
This memereaks of still trying to fit in to mspaint culture. Like the elf is purposely bad but not in a way a mspaint artist would be, and the sauron is too good.
Shill memes always feel uncanny
*reaks of shill
It's "reeks", ESL-kun.
They truly are pathetic.
It's because it uses NuMSPaint which defaults to the anti-aliased brush that the fill tool can't handle properly. It's SOULLESS
It’s not that, the shill purposely made her skull off shape to make it look amateur but that is the one thing you would get right as a meme Maker
jesus christ get a life
>have an iq high enough to notice things
>get a life
I bet you watch sports.
>just consumelop and be happy
You're completely obsessed
With dick?
Yes.
Anon who made the original meme here (just trust me bro). I haven't even watched the show, but I have lurked the threads since I am somewhat interested in it because I like Tolkien. I just got the idea to make this meme because the idea and the possibility that they would make Galadriel fall in love with bad boy Sauron felt so hilarious. Then I just used the arthoe wojak as a template since I thought it fit here.
In short, you are overthinking it all anon and are literally obsessed.
Sauron simply wants complete control over Middle-earth. He has a thing for order and efficiency, which he would achieve through industrialization. Compare that to Morgoth, who wanted to destroy all of creation.
>He has a thing for order and efficiency
Isn't that Saruman's gig?
I think Sauron swayed Saruman to feel that way. He was serving his master, working towards a common goal.
Everything was going well until Saruman found out about the Ring, and went full moron afterwards.
Orc loves matter!
Why does Sauron want a truck stop?
Sauron caused the fall of Numenor, which unironically made Arda spherical instead of flat. This will all lead to Arda become modern day Earth.
>Corrupt Numenor
>Cajole them into attacking heaven
>Lolz
>Numenor sinks
>Realize you forgot the part where you escape
Lmao
Didn't he genuinely think they could do it? I thought that was his legitimate shot at getting the Valar to stay away from his sandbox, and to be fair to him he probably wasn't going to get a better one.
I mean how would he know to escape. I don't think he expected them to sink Numenor.
He didn't.
Realistically Numenor would have conquered Valinor or at least provoked the Valar into destroying their own continent. Sauron had won and it was only because Eru intervened, which had never once happened before, that he lost.
>Numenor would have conquered Valinor
The Valar gave up their dominion of Arda rather than try to fight Numenor. They literally appealed to Eru to save them. They were afraid.
one had to stay in the wreckage brother
He knew the Numenorean fleet would be smited leaving him with total power over the civilisation, I don't think he expected the entire island to get smited too while he was still on it.
He didn't like how Eru made things so he wants to build his model train set HIS way.
That's Morgoth you're thinking of
no, morgoth wanted to break the whole train set
What a Buddhist accelerationist c**t.
Sauron wanted to create America and humans & elves fought a war of extermination to prevent it?
He just wants some elf pussy.
Spoderman?
harem
what's their deal?
What's Sauron's class?
20th-level Wizard (Incel)
nah he's a charisma caster
Agreed but he also wears armor.
he dips hellknight signifier from pathfinder
Brilliant. Of course Sauron would be a pathfinder incel.
He's literally a Sorcerer.
Here's the same street from a different angle.
Order