What happened to this guy? He was the coolest character but he suddenly disappeared? Or did I miss something?
What happened to this guy? He was the coolest character but he suddenly disappeared? Or did I miss something?
What happened to this guy? He was the coolest character but he suddenly disappeared? Or did I miss something?
He dies at the beginning of the deathly hallows pt 1.
JKs worst decision by far was introducing this guy, letting you get invested in him, then saying jk it was a trick, then killing him off. Like what the frick. This strikes me as a "I made quittich make no sense to piss off men" thing
I agree, killing him off during the escape from privet drive was dumb. Should have kept him around for development and then killed him off during the last battle.
To be fair you're really getting invested on Barty Crouch Jr., the actual Moody is only in the story for a couple of scenes.
He was supposedly doing a good impersonation, so besides the wheedling/helping Potter and a couple of instances of getting too bloodthirsty/vengeful torturing spiders and turning Malfoy Jr into a ferret, it was probably accurate.
The real problem is there was basically no interaction with him after the fact. I was waiting for it all the way up til he got killed offscreen. Imagine if when the three stooges ran off on their camping trip he caught up to them, agreed to stay on and train them and was there drilling them and driving up their paranoia and only died at the end in a massively disadvantaged fight that Voldemort joined in on or something.
JK probably avoided that to le subvert your expectations.
all of his best moments weren't even him
I hate how most of his character build up was actually a lie, just someone pretending to be him, who knows what he's really like
It wasn’t so much his death that was the issue, it was that it happened off-camera and was presented as a fair accomplishment with no details.
There should have been a scene where he gets taken down but takes a bunch of death eaters with him or something.
the whole scene was just supposed to be a whirlwind of activity and chaos with people finding out information (with the viewer) at the end. There doesn't need to be a neat bow on every plot point
Mad-Eye was arguably more on Harry’s side than Dumbledore was. I agree that not every plot point needs “a bow” but his death was Harry Potter’s equivalent of pic related.
Dumbledore question:
How did he know about Harry being a Horcrux the summer before year 6 (He told snape about it) but still needed Harry to interrogate Slughorn about what dark magic Voldemort used to make himself immortal during year 6.
Dumbledore already knew that Voldemort was using Horcruxes, he knew that the minute he destroyed the ring and fricked up his hand. The question was never if Horcruxes were involved, but how many of them they were. That was the info Dumbledore needed to extract from Slughorn.
How would Slughorn know? Yes, Voldemort asked him if the soul could be fractured more than once and offered the number seven as an example but nothing in that indicates Voldemort couldn't have made more of these things while he was actually making them, they way Dumbledore and Harry both just assume it's seven is a huge leap that would have bitten them in the ass if Voldemort had made an extra Horcrux out of a random pepper shaker in the Philippines.
7 was a specific number given by Tom, so it made sense to think that was the total number of soul pieces he wanted.
Dumbledore also mentions that 7 is a special number in magic and that Tom would want a special number just like he wanted to use special objects.
The thing about that is we almost never see anything outside of Harry's POV so we don't see them hanging around a faculty lounge or at the head table where Dumbledore and Moody are discussing old war stories, or Snape could smell the polyjuice potion from Moody's flask.
Rowling uses that a lot to set up mysteries.
For example: Harry has to figure out that Moaning myrtle was the victim of the heir of Slytherin 50 years ago, but Dumbledore would know that. Aurors would have done some kind of magic autopsy to determine cause of death was basilisk eye contact. They would have searched the bathroom after interviewing her ghost and found the passage.
The plot only makes sense from Harry's perspective, but falls apart once you look at it from what other characters would have known or done
Doesn't Voldemort hit him in the face with a killing curse in the book? I don't see why they couldn't have just shown that. I guess the glance he gives Harry before flying off was their way of bidding him farewell.
He was killed off-screen by a random death eater during the flight to get Harry to the Burrow.
Which is idiotic, if Dumbledore could have a squib spying on him his entire life he could have equipped the squib's house with a fricking floo chimney.
The last few Harry Potter movies were a disaster
that eye is fricking stupid
looks like a last minute bargain bin halloween costume
I never understood why he even shows up in 6, 7 and 8. In 4, all we see is someone pretending to be him. So we have no idea what the guy is actually like whatsoever. Was Barty Crouch imitating him perfectly, including his decisions?
Shit was a cool twist for 4, but it becomes moronic when they retrofit the character into being in the order
>Was Barty Crouch imitating him perfectly
He would have had to. Moody was one of Dumbledore's oldest and closest friends so he would likely be talking to him frequently often about long past events that only the two of them could know.
Dumbledore was also a genius wizard capable of seeing through all kinds of deception so the disguise had to be perfect.
Luckily Barty Crouch Jr was able to not only subdue the most paranoid and powerful auror in the country, he was able to read his mind and take in the entirety of Moody's past memories to allow him to maintain his cover for nearly a whole year.
I dunno, those movies are a blur for me. Wasn't he cloned and locked into a pit or something?
How did none of his long time friends and allies tell that Barty Crouch Jr. was pretending to be him? Even if he was a good imposter, there should’ve been some obvious cues
He was a paranoid schizo loner, not too hard to pass off, especially as he'd been reclusive and possibly going senile. The real point of moronation is that he was utterly and thoroughly captured and interrogated, like
points out.
Getting the jump on him aside (it happened with such little scuffle that the fresh imposter waved off those who came to investigate), is Moody seriously not a good enough occlumens to not give up every detail of his identity to some deranged lunatic half his age who spent most of his adult life in an induced coma?
>Aurors would have done some kind of magic autopsy to determine cause of death was basilisk eye contact
The entire setting hinges on the fact that wizards are morons with no common sense who underutilize magic.
I think the book implies that Barry snuck into Moody’s house one night and put him in the gay baby jail
Yes, at the beginning Arthur is called out to his house thinking a disturbance was a paranoid outburst from Moody.
You later learn this was BC Jr. and Wormtail incapacitating Moody.
david yates is a worse director than even zack snyder and i'm tired of pretending he isn't
Let's not go too far. At least the action in his HP films was coherent and well shot. Can't say that for Sneeder.
What has he even done outside of Harry Potter?
>goes from Mad Eye to Bad Guy over the course of the movie
literal pottery
i was fine with all the characterization we got of the real man being from that one scene in ootp where he shows harry the picture of the old order. it was enough for me
i was more disappointed with wormtail's ending and the "payoff" of being spared by harry in the best book
Yeah, that was lame. If they thought him being strangled by his own hand would be too hard to translate on screen, then maybe redeem him by having him save Harry and then show him getting killed by Voldemort. Instead he just gets knocked out and is never seen again. It's crazy how rushed those last two movies were.
As it turns out, better to hold a lordship in Kerak
never watched or read that gay shit but from an outsider, he seemed like one of the only cool things in the entire twatterverse (even though i dont like the actor). it makes sense she would shit on him in an subverted expectations sort of way
should have had a last stand holding back a bunch of klansmen so that some of those homosexual kids could get away and when hes all bloody and dying and right after getting hit with some curse, he offs himself so that snek hitler doesnt get the satisfaction of watching him die slowly in pain or something. or kill himself so that they cant torture information out of him. something badass and heroic like that
The coolest character in one of the dullest franchises in the history of movie franchises. Each episode following the boy wizard and his pals from Hogwarts Academy as they fight assorted villains has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the gloomy imagery, the series’ only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of special effects, all to make magic unmagical, to make action seem inert.
Perhaps the die was cast when Rowling vetoed the idea of Spielberg directing the series; she made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody, just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for her books. The Harry Potter series might be anti-Christian (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-James Bond series in its refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.
>a-at least the books were good though
"No!"
The writing is dreadful; the book was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched his legs."
I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Rowling's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that she has no other style of writing. Later I read a lavish, loving review of Harry Potter by the same Stephen King. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are reading Harry Potter at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to read Stephen King." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you read "Harry Potter" you are, in fact, trained to read Stephen King.