What happened to traditional animation?

What happened to traditional animation?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Shrek had more effect in killing 2d animated movies than the first toy story films.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yep

        Toy Story proved you could make a cheap CG film and keep audiences interested
        Shrek proved you could make a cheap CG film, fill it to the brim with pop culture references, and it would sell like fricking gold

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Shrek proved you could make a cheap CG film, fill it to the brim with pop culture references, and it would sell like fricking gold

          No, that would be the Minions. Shrek and Toy Story were not cheap to make, and during their time they were fresh and brand new ideas.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    You already know the answer. israelites, Pixar and Disney israelites. CalArts' character animation department was established to churn out the 80s/90s crap but they turned to something that's far more profitable; morons with money.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Cool it with the antisemitic remarks.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Never. You have some good israelites but that doesn't mean you have evil israelites too. The ABC/Capital Cities merger was the cancer that killed Disney.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Let's see paul allen's antisemeitic remarks

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Pixar directors aren’t even israelites.
      Ran by literal white men.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        jews are white. theyre def not latinx, asian, or black. Ginger is as white as you can get

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Jews financed Pixar movies from the start, the ABC merger pivoted on it. Disney was there from the start as Alvy Ray Smith was a huge fan who wanted to use computers to make animation and the CAPS system relied on Pixar technology.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >"It was Disney's money that saved Pixar. They paid for the production of Toy Story, which went on to great success for the company. Animated movies were Pixar's vision, from its earliest days at NYIT on Long Island, not Jobs's vision."

          Quoting Alvy there. Toy Story was a huge deal for Disney and Disney milked it for all it was worth, and all the 2D animated movies after that were basically afterthoughts, love letters or jerking off a nostalgic property (see Space Jam, one or two).

          As soon as Moore's Law made long-form 3D animation viable, 2D was going to go out the window anyways. NYIT first tried in 1982 with The Works but it was a colossal failure.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Disney was trying to get rid of animation at the studio after Walt died.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Animated movies were Pixar's vision
            Don't you mean Big Idea's (creators of Veggie Tales) vision?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          God, I remember going to see Treasure Planet at the El Capitan when they had the funhouse set up for it. It had everything, games, character actors, obstacle courses themed after parts of the movie, 6-inch-thick foam carpet to simulate the mossy surface of the planet, weirdly great food, snacks, and candy. That was probably one of the best days of 10-year-old me's life.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Jews in America are largelt White, whether they want to admit it or not.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Digital is easier and cheaper to produce.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Disney already jumped to digital ink and paint with their movies after Little Mermaid.
      Which Pixar also had a hand in with the hardware.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What said. Even the original movie had the coloring, lighting, particle effects and camera movements done in computers.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      If that's the case, why are the majority of TV cartoons still 2D? Television productions are often far more concerned about cutting costs than Hollywood movies are.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        digital 2D is different to traditional 2D animation.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        When you're making a feature length film, CGI is cheaper than traditional animation. Part of the reason the Renaissance films were successful was because they were made on a budget. Little Mermaid being the cheapest one

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Your thread is low effort, just informing.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I seriously doubt most anons here would put in the effort to look up the box office of the 2D animated Disney movies by the time they stopped making them compared to the 3D Pixar ones.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What's the average high effort thread on Cinemaphile?

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >that one time disney pretended the lion king remake was live action and norimes believed it

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >this totally different style is "evolution"
    I hate brainless shit like this.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >What happened to traditional animation?
    you bootleg'd enough of it that they needed to cut corners to make a profit

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    All traditional animation is now outsourced to Asia and occasionally France.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >traditional animation
      >Asia
      Good joke.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Sorry bro, cell animation is forever dead, you're going to have to understand that when people say "traditional" they're referring to digital 2D animation.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

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  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Animation is something that kids watch and adults have to endure.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >endure
      im enduring alright!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >CGI is something that kids watch and adults have to endure.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    When they started making Princess movies with computers I knew the days of art at Disney were over

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    If this is evolution we need to regress

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    We started treating animators like people instead of the peons that they are. They're essentially beasts of burden with thumbs.

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    10

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    2D Animation couldn't shake the stigma that its 'for kids'

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >What happened to traditional animation?

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    it's dead. get over it.

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Computers that were meant to save time on low-skill time-intensive tasks were instead used as crutches by less skilled animators for...well, everything. Today many animators do not see the value of traditional animation techniques, and are not capable of them anyway. Even the Nips and zips are this way now.

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It didn't go anywhere. It's just that there always is the same amount of traditional animators over years.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Could be.

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    YOU didn't support traditionally animated movies when they came out and instead watched that Minions movie. Twice.

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Still alive, it's just mostly on TV these days.

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Treasure Planer and Titan A.E. pretty much destroyed the 2d animated movie in one of the most disastrous cases of dueling movies.

    Disney all but abandoned Traditional animation and Fox Studios completely shut down their animation department.

    Combined with the Advent of 3d animation and early success like Toy story and shrek investment pivoted to CG animation.

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    it isn't efficient and movies are products created to make money

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Companies realizing that using 3D is cheaper and less time-consuming than traditional animation, despite "traditional" animation being created on computers for years beforehand

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >he fell for the meme

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Frank Wells died in a helicopter accident.

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >evolved
    This is the problem with the US. 3D is an evolution of 2D, therefore quality must be higher with 3D.

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Can't you read what you posted?
    It has been improved!

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >"Look how much animation has evolved"
    >Posts a still image

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    western studios got lazy and relied on outsourcing the job to computers that animators were supposed to do. it takes genuine effort hard work to animate, and leftoid companies are averse to it.

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >animation has evolved
    >that image
    I want to die.

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Disney destroyed the thief and the cobbler using pixar. 2d animation was just about to evolve from 12fps to 24fps and Disney had to hijack the industry and run it into the ground by releasing the thief and the cobbler while everyone got hyped up for toy story. the only way we can undo this curse is if pixar does the thief and the cobbler as a project.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This movie was fricking amazing. Loved every second of it as a kid.

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    TradAnimation is too expensive whereas any semi-skilled moron can hammer out 3D animation and cheaper too.

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Animation is expensive and there aren’t enough people skilled in it without outsourcing
    To further justify the cost companies constantly need to be pushing the technology for future investment
    I blame art school being so damn expensive and America’s muh talent culture
    If more people knew how to draw we’d be like Japan where animation could be cheap

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    why are americans so obsessed with israelites?

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I really, really really really fricking hate how photo realism considered an improvement over 2d animation, I actually wanna fricking beat up people who makes statements like that.

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