Victoria Alonso. She controlled everything from after End Game to Echo and Captain Marvel 2. She greenlit every stupid show and movie as long as it passed a message. She was fired but her bullshit will still linger. This is all Feige's fault for thinking the MCU will just keep going without any effort
I used to respect feige, but now he's a shell of his former creative genius self, he's been compromised by woke homosexualry beyond repair as well as the rest of israelitewood. I don't even consume current media anymore, I have a hyper response to even an ounce of woke propaganda.
>I used to respect feige, but now he's a shell of his former creative genius self
I am sorry but he was never a genius. Just a guy there at the right time that had some passing knowledge of Marvel which overshadowed him. He took all the best Marvel stories that should have spanned an entire year and used it for a movie or a show or in the case of Thor Ragnarok, two major stories in comics into one movie. He just pick and choose the best stories and made movies out of them. There is no genius of this guy and it's obvious that he was being carried hard by RDJ and Chris Evans. He is like the Phil Jackson of movie producers where Jackson was called the greatest coach ever in the NBA but he coached Jordan, Pippen, Shaq, Koby etc so was he really a good coach or just coached the best players and they carried him?
Interesting take and analogy, I never thought of it that way, and you're right, RDJ and Chris were the lifeblood and pre 2012 the woke virus wasn't as strong. But eventually the woke virus took everything over post 2012 and Feige was compromised and couldn't even do what gave early MCU it's success.
It's the story of everything popular. It starts as white male dominated and gets really popular and eventually "where are the woman and POC" demands start and then it inevitably gets worse. This happened with the walking dead where like there was one black character but towards the end almost everyone was black and at that point the show was done. It's like a mathematical formula at this point, the longer you have something successful, the greater the chance that calls for diversity will start and once you give in its over and the quality goes dramatically down. South Park was the only show ever to handle this bullshit well adding a black character literally named Token.
well said anon. Just to add some context to my posts, I'm not even white , I'm actually pakistani born in raised in cali, and I fricking hate what this woke ideology has done to the shit I grew up with. These fricking woke revolutionaries literally have made me not consume media. Perhaps it's time to stop consuming israelite homosexualry at this point.
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Not only that but people will start becomming bitter and resentful towards you by default because they will assume you agree with all that shit as a brown guy. My libertarian black friend explained this to me that he hates liberals because they are the reason white supremacists hate him because they assume he believes that shit.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I have gotten that from random people when I am out and about. When people ask me about any current marvel/star wars, or even Hollywood in general, I tell them the woke ideology has ruined media for me, and they can't believe a non white has these opinions, one dumb b***h called me an uncle tom and white washed. Unbelievable if this is what we're dealing with. it's like they can't comprehend there are people of other races who fricking hate this woke shit, which is the majority.
11 months ago
Anonymous
One of my favorite teachers from high school is currently being canceled on Facebook because he said things, and I quote, "unbecoming of a man who was experienced oppression personally". He is asian. He's a fantastic geometry teacher. His family are wealthy business owners. How on Earth is that oppression?
The worst thing is that "academic representatives" from other states are also getting in on the hate wagon. They probably don't even know who he is.
11 months ago
Anonymous
If it’s any consolation, because of affirmative action in admissions I strongly favor Indian and south East Asian medical staff
11 months ago
Anonymous
most of my family and extended family is a professional degree holder of some sort, and I can promise they didn't need affirmative action(they earned it), which I vehemently disagree with, people should be judged by their merits and character not superficial checkboxes.
11 months ago
Anonymous
No, I mean that schools hold Asians to a higher standard so it’s led to me becoming biased towards believing that Asians in professional positions are particularly competent
11 months ago
Anonymous
r/asianmasculinity redpilled me about how Chinese and especially Koreans that live in the US hate white people with a passion to almost psychotic levels. Worse than blacks I would even say.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Asian males are good in worker roles. They are not good in leadership roles for the most part. When you assign some work tasks to some asian dude that shit will get done in a timely manner.
r/asianmasculinity redpilled me about how Chinese and especially Koreans that live in the US hate white people with a passion to almost psychotic levels. Worse than blacks I would even say.
Okay what they are gonna do about it?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Okay what they are gonna do about it?
They should find a nice Asian woman and marry them instead of b***hing that white girls don't like them.
11 months ago
Anonymous
They can even find white girls especially these days with all the anime zoomer girls
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yea because that's a forced social media fad. Zoomettes will post that Korean doctor guy over and over and say he's so cute and still only date white guys. It's a tale as old as time, claiming you support something just because it sounds right.
11 months ago
Anonymous
that johnny gat guy you all basedface over on Cinemaphile is not attractive. there are no attractive asians at all really. women have a better sense for beauty than you do
11 months ago
Anonymous
Hey Kamran Pasha just wanted to say I love your videos and frick everyone who shits on you and Doomwiener. You guys are much more entertaining and fun to listen to than the Midnight's Edge guys or anyone else from that sphere.
11 months ago
Anonymous
not Kamran, but hey I appreciate it either way, there are a lot more of us indian/pakis like Kamran, we hate woke israelite homosexualry and want to go back to the good ol days, we have no issues with white people being the majority in their own country. I love USA (not the woke shit tho) kek
11 months ago
Anonymous
Holy shit it really is Kamran Pasha. Tell me who Sparrow really is you fricking dweeb, I'm not paying you $2 a month to read Doomwieners videos an hour early.
it would be worrisome if this also occurred on the societal level
11 months ago
Anonymous
isn't it already happening on a societal level? I work in tech and I literally have to lie about my opinions.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>it would be worrisome if this also occurred on the societal level
It does. I live in a super blue state. Every company outing people always start talking politics and they assume since you live there you must agree with their far left opinions. I just stay quiet because there is no winning in this situation if I argue.
11 months ago
Anonymous
isn't it already happening on a societal level? I work in tech and I literally have to lie about my opinions.
Vaclav Havel has a book about this phenomenon
An ideology can be carried along by inertia and if it’s suppresses dissent but is unable to measure sincere public sentiment the regime runs the risk of hollowing itself out - like the coyote running off the cliff, it doesn’t fall immediately because it doesn’t realize that it’s foundations have already disappeared
Havel was also in the entertainment industry and successfully took over a country just so he could produce his scripts
Interesting take and analogy, I never thought of it that way, and you're right, RDJ and Chris were the lifeblood and pre 2012 the woke virus wasn't as strong. But eventually the woke virus took everything over post 2012 and Feige was compromised and couldn't even do what gave early MCU it's success.
>There is no genius of this guy and it's obvious that he was being carried hard by RDJ and Chris Evans. >Evans
Are we pretending we like that gay now?
He's somehow managed to burn decades worth of decent stories and now they're left with the box office poison Marvel Comics has pumped out for the last couple decades or nothing. It's incredible how short-sighted he was.
>and now they're left with the box office poison Marvel Comics has pumped out for the last couple decades or nothing
Literally only from the last 10 years
It took Marvel comics 80 years until the multiverse and diverse characters kill them. The MCU got there in 15. MCU right now is literally mirroring everything that brought comics down.
We will never know if that is true based on how he picked his teams. The Knicks were begging him to be their coach throwing money at him but their team was godawful and he knew it and how it would tarnish his reputation.
Diversity hires lmao. Writing should be better, directing should be better, everything should be better, but hollywood all across the board is going backwards.
I understand getting old and wrinkled, but come on, what's up with the baggy eyes?
I have them because I don't sleep well but an actress having them is jarring
>what's up with the baggy eyes?
In-universe, the character had just buried her father and spent almost every waking moment after that fighting for her life.
War Machine isn't dead. He was rescued in the last episode.
People speculate he was switched early on but that's just stupid. Most likely happened during the 5 year skip or during the chaos after Endgame.
NTA, but I'd want a character who's been around since Phase 1's death to be a bigger deal than that. It was essentially the equivalent of a horror movie's cold open kill.
Yes.
Also how can you not have a scene where War Machine gets released from captivity for all these years and not have him ask "Where's Tony". Such an obvious slam dunk emotional heart string tug and they didn't do it.
According to the show he was captured at some point before Tony died so he wouldn't know that Tony was dead on release.
11 months ago
Anonymous
According to the show....bullshit
11 months ago
Anonymous
I don't disagree that the show is total trash but if this show has to exist and has to be canon then all I am saying is they should have added that line.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I mean the show never implied when he was taken.
11 months ago
Anonymous
https://gamerant.com/secret-invasion-war-machine-skrull-replaced-when-explained/ >ecret Invasion director Selim has commented on the most common question fans have had after the reveal in an interview with ComicBook. “A lot of people have asked about, ‘Definitively, when did Rhodey...?’ I think his legs not working at the end of episode six and him being in the hospital gown points to 'Captain America: Civil War'."
I mean they allude to this in the show but here it is from the show runners mouth before you start more semantics.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Which is a moronic take. His legs didn't working Endgame either. He had to rely on the suit or braces. And he would have gone to the hospital many times over the years
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Which is a moronic take
Doesn't matter. He made the show. That's when Warmachine was abducted. You were wrong. GGEZ next map.
11 months ago
Anonymous
And even he is still only SPECULATING. Read it again. I'm not saying which one is right just that saying "according to the show" is bullshit
11 months ago
Anonymous
see
>Which is a moronic take
Doesn't matter. He made the show. That's when Warmachine was abducted. You were wrong. GGEZ next map.
11 months ago
Anonymous
See
And even he is still only SPECULATING. Read it again. I'm not saying which one is right just that saying "according to the show" is bullshit
11 months ago
Anonymous
see
>Which is a moronic take
Doesn't matter. He made the show. That's when Warmachine was abducted. You were wrong. GGEZ next map.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You can keep being moronic if you want. Your own link says they are purposely being ambiguous. Cope more. Your own post shows you are wrong.
Mic drop. I'm out
>nd not have him ask "Where's Tony".
You wake up from a coma inside to find out you had been kidnapped by aliens and stored inside of a machine in the middle of CHERNOBYL and you think the first thing out your mouth is to ask is about some other man?
I love her so much bros but I can't get over the fact McFarlane ejaculated inside her multiple times.
It's like finding out your crush has a scat fetish.
Never liked her. She has that uncanny baby-face and thick eyebrows look that only the lowest caste Indian women have. A Pajeeta in a white costume. Great body though.
Why does her leather jacket turn into an arm.
Why does the arm have Drax's tattoos?
I've been thinking the same thing. First of all choosing drax strength over hulk strength is just stupid and a downgrade you have no reason to nerf yourself with the same kind of ability.
Second of all why the frick would the drax arm have tattoos? Those aren't natural marks of his skin he was born with, they're tattoos he got put on him as grew older cause in his culture you get tattoos on your body that tell your life story.
Dumb inconsistencies and plot holes like this really piss me off.
>choosing drax strength over hulk strength is just stupid
Historically people always seem to frick themselves up trying to give themselves Hulk's powers. Even in the MCU it's basically a fluke that works best on people that share him genetic makeup.
This is the issue where you hire different directors to do different things. I really think Disney should nail down like 3-5 directors whose only job it is to make cape shit so they can constantly talk to each other and make sure their movies are connected and make sense. This is how they do it in the comics.
>Disney should nail down like 3-5 directors whose only job it is to make cape shit so they can constantly talk to each other and make sure their movies are connected and make sense.
You just described Feige's entire job. They have an entire department ran by one person for that purpose.
sure he could he's not like batman where he has to be in prime shape. Iron man can be old his suit does most of the work
>sure he could
Most actors don't want to play the same character forever. This isn't Star Trek.
You have writers who aren't fans of the comic book characters writing stories about comic book characters. What do you think was going to happen? They're writing their own stories, generally about some reddit tier leftie framing of a social issue, and wrapping it as a comic book story. They're doing the same thing in every genre. Behold the era of the millennial writer and prepare to suffer for the next few decades.
Civil War and Secret Invasion should have been a story that lasted for an entire year or longer and multiple movies and shows should have focused around it. You can't take plot lines that ran for years and condense them into a single 2 hour movie or in DCs case, they did the death of Superman story in the last 20 minutes of Batman V Superman
>Secret Invasion should have been a story that lasted for an entire year or longer and multiple movies and shows should have focused around it.
Admittedly, I don't know a heck of a lot about the comics, and as such, due to their similar titles, I thought Avengers: Secret War was going to be a sequel of sorts to Secret Invasion. Like "You thought the Skrulls' first attempt at world domination was bad, well their second is even worse!" Once you get 'invaded,' then you're at 'war,' etc. But apparently it turns out the Secret War story in the comics has nothing to do with the Skrulls and now I'm just sitting here befuddled that Disney turned what could've been a massive Invasion of the Body Snatchers/The Thing-style epic saga into some bullshit about how Nick is very old and sad and none of the Avengers were involved. Frick me.
This is the issue where you hire different directors to do different things. I really think Disney should nail down like 3-5 directors whose only job it is to make cape shit so they can constantly talk to each other and make sure their movies are connected and make sense. This is how they do it in the comics.
Yh the show didn't even bother keeping who was a skrull a secret. They just told you and expected you to have that basedface reaction. They could've still made it work but you're right, these are infinity saga level stories that marvel just torched. DC could easily be fixed but from the looks of what James Gunn has planned the franchise is fricked for at least another decade.
>you know all the awesome 70/90's comis everyone loved >lets skip all that and use the new woke comics they can't sell and everyone hates to make movies about
> Woke happened > No singular direction (Is it about the multiverse, the Skrull invasion, mutants?) > No charismatic, likeable singular character to "lead" the franchise at this point (like RDJ and Evans once were for phase 1-3) > Lackluster phase 4 (and which this current phase is shaping out to be) > So much behind the scenes drama (overworked employees, the actors and writer's strike, etc.) > Superhero fatigue (which could've been mitigated at least a little bit if the MCU was still good)
woke Black person shit feminism homosexualry destroyed all forms of entertainment , I only consume media pre 2012.
I used to respect feige, but now he's a shell of his former creative genius self, he's been compromised by woke homosexualry beyond repair as well as the rest of israelitewood. I don't even consume current media anymore, I have a hyper response to even an ounce of woke propaganda.
>He is like the Phil Jackson of movie producers
Interesting take and analogy, I never thought of it that way, and you're right, RDJ and Chris were the lifeblood and pre 2012 the woke virus wasn't as strong. But eventually the woke virus took everything over post 2012 and Feige was compromised and couldn't even do what gave early MCU it's success.
People keep saying this but no one has the actual definition for it? What makes something "woke" in media?
To be "woke" (in a broad sense) is to be aware of some sort of social issue that affects marginalized groups. What is the right's definition of "woke?" Hint: There isn't one, which is my point.
wokeness is a strain of american social and cultural liberalism that centers "the personal is political", reducing all political action as a matter of personal moral hygiene - woke is something you are, not what you do. it has its roots in american academia: anti-racism, intersectionality, equity, privilege etc. It's obsessive about language to the point of coercion and control. it's analysis is structural but imposes action on the individual. the woke enlightened person aims for moral cleanliness, but one slip up can't be atoned for. this is also predicated on how people feel: validated, triggered, victimised, privileged. etc.. because those poor minorities can't feel sadness at any time. this cynicism also drives a lot of the woke ideas of institutional capture and reform, and seeing oneself as the moral highground gives ample opportunity to shift blame to the problematic "other". it treats minority immutable attributes as virtues, it's own kind of social credit system
That's...still not woke means (I'm talking abut it's original term).
11 months ago
Anonymous
its what semi-illiterate homies called people who shared their revisionist afrocentric view of history and politics
11 months ago
Anonymous
I don’t care what anyone says, my grandma told me that cleopatra was black
11 months ago
Anonymous
What it means in practice, what it’s commonly understood to mean, and what you think it meant originally are certainly different things
However, for daily usage his definition is much more accurate than yours
11 months ago
Anonymous
There's no "commonly understood to mean" because there's is no agreed term to what most people think of when they hear the word "woke" (because they don't know what it is) and the word salad you posted proves my point.
11 months ago
Anonymous
There's no "commonly understood to mean" because there's is no agreed term to what most people think of when they hear the word "woke" (because they don't know what it is) and the word salad you posted proves my point.
Who cares? You wokesters always derail the conversation with the whole "umm what's your definition of woke?!" shit
11 months ago
Anonymous
this, they act fricking stupid by saying "hurr durr what is woke durr" and then we explain it ad nauseum and the same question gets asked again.
11 months ago
Anonymous
this, they act fricking stupid by saying "hurr durr what is woke durr" and then we explain it ad nauseum and the same question gets asked again.
The definition was LITERALLY given to you (
To be "woke" (in a broad sense) is to be aware of some sort of social issue that affects marginalized groups. What is the right's definition of "woke?" Hint: There isn't one, which is my point.
) and you went off to say "lol not true"
11 months ago
Anonymous
this
wokeness is a strain of american social and cultural liberalism that centers "the personal is political", reducing all political action as a matter of personal moral hygiene - woke is something you are, not what you do. it has its roots in american academia: anti-racism, intersectionality, equity, privilege etc. It's obsessive about language to the point of coercion and control. it's analysis is structural but imposes action on the individual. the woke enlightened person aims for moral cleanliness, but one slip up can't be atoned for. this is also predicated on how people feel: validated, triggered, victimised, privileged. etc.. because those poor minorities can't feel sadness at any time. this cynicism also drives a lot of the woke ideas of institutional capture and reform, and seeing oneself as the moral highground gives ample opportunity to shift blame to the problematic "other". it treats minority immutable attributes as virtues, it's own kind of social credit system
is the definition. yours is full of assumptions
11 months ago
Anonymous
woketards can't even define "woman" lmao
11 months ago
Anonymous
Cause it's a question in bad faith.
11 months ago
Anonymous
it's a simple question, why don't woketards know what words mean when they're the ones doing all the language policing?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Are the woketards in the room with us right now?
11 months ago
Anonymous
An adult woman or anyone who identifies as one.
11 months ago
Anonymous
the second definition contradicts the first
Are the woketards in the room with us right now?
just in this thread
11 months ago
Anonymous
when someone identifies as a woman, what are they identifying as? what does the word mean?
11 months ago
Anonymous
It's a gender expression generally favored by people with a XX chromosome, you may now concede
11 months ago
Anonymous
expressing what exactly? favoured implies conscious choice, which isn't the case in the entire non-american world where "gender choice" isn't a concept or part of their worldview
11 months ago
Anonymous
>expressing what exactly?
Their gender lol pay attention. There are a lot of traits we consider to womanly or manly in society and it'd be tedious to list them all. We would generally consider people who embody these traits to be either a man or a woman
11 months ago
Anonymous
what is the "woman gender"? a manly woman isn't a man. why can't you provide an explicit definition of a woman?
11 months ago
Anonymous
I just did, are you having trouble understanding? Which part do you need dumbed down?
11 months ago
Anonymous
your definition of woman is someone who identifies as a woman, which means having a woman's gender expression, but at no point did you define what a woman is, just endless tautologies
11 months ago
Anonymous
>your definition of woman is someone who identifies as a woman
No it isn't, I didn't say that. Why are you lying?
This is what libtards genuinely believe
Not an argument.
11 months ago
Anonymous
one response says this
An adult woman or anyone who identifies as one.
which is basically the same as this
It's a gender expression generally favored by people with a XX chromosome, you may now concede
being tautological here
>expressing what exactly?
Their gender lol pay attention. There are a lot of traits we consider to womanly or manly in society and it'd be tedious to list them all. We would generally consider people who embody these traits to be either a man or a woman
11 months ago
Anonymous
That first post isn't mine. You should probably take the time to learn how this website work and how to follow reply chains. To avoid more embarrassing mistakes like this
11 months ago
Anonymous
You tried to dogpile and you failed. I accept your concession
11 months ago
Anonymous
Does this mean you're done? I don't blame you lol it's hard when people don't stick to your script and you actually have to engage
>Not an argument.
neither is saying having 'womanly traits' make you a woman
Thats... How words work?
11 months ago
Anonymous
woketard can't define a woman lmao
11 months ago
Anonymous
It's a gender expression generally favored by people with a XX chromosome, you may now concede
11 months ago
Anonymous
gender expressing what? you keep going in circles without saying anything. if a woman is a gender expression, a woman gender expression is what exactly? are libtards really this dumb
11 months ago
Anonymous
>expressing what exactly?
Their gender lol pay attention. There are a lot of traits we consider to womanly or manly in society and it'd be tedious to list them all. We would generally consider people who embody these traits to be either a man or a woman
The only reason we're going in circles is because you can't engage with my answers. You just restate your question because I'm not following your script lol
11 months ago
Anonymous
a vague undefined term isn't a suitable definition for another vague undefined term. there's no "script", just think about it rationally for a minute, maybe the woke brainwashing will wear off
11 months ago
Anonymous
I am thinking rationally, only one of us is having trouble with this conversation. So now that I've defined woman you want me to define something else? Which term is hard for you to grasp?
11 months ago
Anonymous
i understand that words are difficult for you. maybe you're ESL or not a white male, but words mean something, and you've failed repeatedly provide a definition for "woman", so I can only conclude that you don't know. i know it's embarrassing for you, you can just stop posting
11 months ago
Anonymous
Oh we're doing this again? Pretending I didn't give you a definition an hour ago? Here I'll link it again:
It's a gender expression generally favored by people with a XX chromosome, you may now concede
I take it by your seething adhoms and begging me to stop posting you're conceding the argument like the other anon?
11 months ago
Anonymous
you didn't define what the gender expression *is*. what gender expression? expressed how? >"what is a florgle?" >"it's a blargle" >"what's a blargle?" >(no answer)
11 months ago
Anonymous
I kept asking you what else you wanted defined but you would dodge and seethepost instead before restating your original question. Here, do some reading: wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_expression
No one conceded an argument to you, you just tired them out by going in circles with your "definitions". But your whole purpose was to derail any kind of conversation by arguing about basic reality which is part of the woke script.
Not an argument.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I asked you to define what "woman gender expression" means
here
expressing what exactly? favoured implies conscious choice, which isn't the case in the entire non-american world where "gender choice" isn't a concept or part of their worldview
here
what is the "woman gender"? a manly woman isn't a man. why can't you provide an explicit definition of a woman?
here
your definition of woman is someone who identifies as a woman, which means having a woman's gender expression, but at no point did you define what a woman is, just endless tautologies
here
gender expressing what? you keep going in circles without saying anything. if a woman is a gender expression, a woman gender expression is what exactly? are libtards really this dumb
and here
you didn't define what the gender expression *is*. what gender expression? expressed how? >"what is a florgle?" >"it's a blargle" >"what's a blargle?" >(no answer)
and not one of your replies answered it, why not?
11 months ago
Anonymous
I answered here:
>expressing what exactly?
Their gender lol pay attention. There are a lot of traits we consider to womanly or manly in society and it'd be tedious to list them all. We would generally consider people who embody these traits to be either a man or a woman
And even relinked it several times. Now I've provided you with a wikipedia link but that isn't good enough either? Seems like you've accepted my definition of woman at least so I'll take that concession.
11 months ago
Anonymous
you just passed the buck to "womanly" and "manly" without defining those either, an endless tautology
per
what is the "woman gender"? a manly woman isn't a man. why can't you provide an explicit definition of a woman?
is a manly woman a man?
any answer to that makes your gender expression link pointless
11 months ago
Anonymous
No I explained pretty clearly over an hour ago that there are many womanly and manly traits and it's tedious to list them all. Let me just speed run this next part of the conversation since you seem kinda slow >Give me specific examples of womanly traits!!!
Wearing a dress, having long hair and painting your nails is seen as womanly >Ermmm but what if a man does those things??? Does that make them a woman???
No because being a woman is comprised of many different traits that are too numerous to list >Ermmmm okay but how do we know which traits are manly and which are womanly?
This is defined societally and can vary in other parts of the world >Uhhh... But... Uhhh... What is a woman? You still haven't defined that!!!
Then the conversation loops ad nauseam, I give a definition; you demand a definition from within that definition and then another and then another and then we go back to your original question again
Can't concede because I never engaged with your society destroying views, just dismissed them outright. Heh, dumby.
>He's still upset
Just accept you got BTFO and move on, this is sad
11 months ago
Anonymous
How can you btfo me here? Unpossible because all I've been doing is casually disregarding all your civilization-collapsing ideas.
11 months ago
Anonymous
you never mentioned any of those things. you never defined any of the traits of a woman, and why whether man having some subset them is still a man. >Wearing a dress, having long hair and painting your nails is seen as womanly
Is this image of a woman? Be honest >No because being a woman is comprised of many different traits that are too numerous to list
Try listing them. A woman wears a dress right? What about a woman wearing pants? Do the clothes make the woman? Be honest >This is defined societally and can vary in other parts of the world
List some culturally different ways a woman is defined at birth. In cultures where they don't have dresses are there any women? In Scotland, men wear kilts, are they actually women?. Be honest >Then the conversation loops ad nauseam, I give a definition; you demand a definition from within that definition and then another and then another and then we go back to your original question again
You said a "woman" is a "gender expression", and that "gender expression" is "womanly" (whatever that is, dresses or something?), but not whether a "man" displaying some "womanly" traits is a "woman" and vice versa.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Is this image of a woman?
I'm guessing it's a man dressed as a woman >A woman wears a dress right?
Sometimes yeah >What about a woman wearing pants?
That would be a woman wearing pants >Do the clothes make the woman?
No, like I've already explained that's just one of many traits we use to determine someone's gender >In cultures where they don't have dresses are there any women?
Yes like I said different cultures have different traits >In Scotland, men wear kilts, are they actually women?
No >but not whether a "man" displaying some "womanly" traits is a "woman" and vice versa.
A man with some womanly traits is still a man, a woman with some manly traits is still a woman.
You know I keep answering your dozens of questions but the goalposts seem to be getting further and further away. It's almost like you don't want to accept my definition which is fine. You can have your own understanding but I feel confident I've explained mine. Your concession has been officially noted and logged, I'll let you have the last word so you can try to salvage your ego (I won't read it)
11 months ago
Anonymous
>I'm guessing it's a man dressed as a woman
How do you know it's a man? >That would be a woman wearing pants
How do you know it's a woman wearing pants? >Yes like I said different cultures have different traits
Like what? I've never been to Japan, but I could with a 100% success rate identify men and women. Same with Ghana or some Eskimo tribe. I'm unfamiliar with their cultural worldviews, why would it be so easy for me?
>A man with some womanly traits is still a man, a woman with some manly traits is still a woman.
So your definition of a "woman" being someone who "gender expresses" what is "womanly" is completely useless.
Which of these two persons in this image is a woman and why? If you don't answer, I'll consider it a concession.
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>I'm guessing it's a man dressed as a woman
very transphobic statement, assuming someone gender from a photo
11 months ago
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Yeah don't need to argue about basic stuff that children know. You gonna argue with someone that 2+2=5 next lil fella? Lil wokey boy kek
11 months ago
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I accept your concession.
11 months ago
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Can't concede because I never engaged with your society destroying views, just dismissed them outright. Heh, dumby.
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No one conceded an argument to you, you just tired them out by going in circles with your "definitions". But your whole purpose was to derail any kind of conversation by arguing about basic reality which is part of the woke script.
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>Not an argument.
neither is saying having 'womanly traits' make you a woman
It's one of their tactics; they don't want you talking about/noticing the ideology they put into every piece of media nowadays. Their side were the ones who came up with it but now that the right uses it against them they pretend not to know what it means and asking you to define it.
Entire empires crumble under a single mistake. For Feige it is not recasting Iron Man and Captain America. There are so many stories left to tell and they can't because those characters are now gone.
>It's not like replacing Warmachine. RDJ is Iron Man, you can't just recast him
They said the same thing about Connery and Bond. You can. I don't even think RDJ portrayed the actual character well.
>He is literally the only reason why MCU exists.
I understand that. But he didn't play Ironman. Ironman is not some quip throwing playboy. He is a mentally flawed borderline fascist character which was why he was on team pro government during the civil war comics.
>Ironman is not some quip throwing playboy.
Then everyone in the MCU became a quip throwing snarky fricker.
Then it even extended to other franchises such as Star Wars.
RDJ and the MCU were a mistake.
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GotG's success cemented that. Regardless if you like that movie or not, it was the most quippy and the rest followed.
>He is literally the only reason why MCU exists.
I understand that. But he didn't play Ironman. Ironman is not some quip throwing playboy. He is a mentally flawed borderline fascist character which was why he was on team pro government during the civil war comics.
Iron Man had pros and cons. I agree that RDJ wasn't a 1:1 depiction but he did a pretty good job with it. The issue was when the sequels started modeling themselves after him, and not the other way around.
They did a similar thing with Hemsworth's IRL personality and Thor, but it wasn't until the third one.
Not recasting T'Challa was a huge mistake as well. John David Washington could've made a great replacement for Boseman. I feel like they went with the emotional reflex reaction instead of stopping and thinking about what was best for the series. At least Tony and Steve had their stories told. There was still so much left to do with T'Challa that we can't now, because they panicked and threw the baby out with the bathwater. Now, whenever they get around to introducing the X-Men into the MCU, we'll never get T'Challa and Ororo as a couple, which saddens me.
They definitely should have recasted T-Challa or appointed a new male lead >John David Washington
Not him though.
I like Colby but Maria Hill wasn't some big named character. The way her death was handled was about on par with Coulson's, which is as much as a spy should get. Even in the AoS show when they send off two of their own (alive) they make a point of saying spies don't get big send offs. Maria Hill got a proper military funeral which is the biggest spy send off really.
>be got producer >hire actress solely for hotness >"eh she can't act, but as long as she keeps getting naked who cares" >actress has certified woman moment and refuses to get naked >can't fire her because of feminism >show goes to shit
you'd be spewing i reckon
Marvel was already dogshit unable to keep up with even the most basic moronic shonenshit. Imagine making a universe on that never ending bad writting and giving it to a israelite to milk forever.
So Gaia is basically God now, with the powers of literally everyone from the Infinity Saga. She could probably solo Thanos WITH the Infinity Gauntlet. How long before the inevitable bullshit "Gaia can't come and help us because she got lost in Intergalactic Walmart" excuse?
>So Gaia is basically God now, with the powers of literally everyone from the Infinity Saga.
Pretty much, though somebody like Strange or Wanda might be a challenge for her (assuming they had the jump on her first).
I don't think she can do magic, so that'd be a hard counter
Most of the powers she got amount to "strong and durable". The only real advantages are telekinesis, fire and ice powers, and Captain Marvel's energy blasts.
She's every Phases 1-3 hero and villain rolled into one. You're going to have to search for a good, long while for someone capable of beating her, without getting into OP cosmic shit like the Watchers and beyond. >telekinesis, fire and ice powers, and Captain Marvel's energy blasts
Flight, healing/regeneration, mental manipulation, phasing, plant manipulation, alien magic, and while she didn't use them in the fight (at least not that I can recall), there's no reason to think she can't also use Thor's lightning, Strange and Wanda's magic, and Spidey Sense.
> Woke happened > No singular direction (Is it about the multiverse, the Skrull invasion, mutants?) > No charismatic, likeable singular character to "lead" the franchise at this point (like RDJ and Evans once were for phase 1-3) > Lackluster phase 4 (and which this current phase is shaping out to be) > So much behind the scenes drama (overworked employees, the actors and writer's strike, etc.) > Superhero fatigue (which could've been mitigated at least a little bit if the MCU was still good)
you will never be born with a vegana.
the problems of the minority are not my problems, just go somewhere else woth your minority and become a majority so no one will have any problems.
kys,
shit thread
CUT!
Great job emily very nice but could you do it again with more eyebrows and smiles?
woke Black person shit feminism homosexualry destroyed all forms of entertainment , I only consume media pre 2012.
Zoomers leave.
It literally keeps getting worse. I was watching Hulk from 2008 and was impressed how better it was than most Marlelshit of the last decade.
Victoria Alonso. She controlled everything from after End Game to Echo and Captain Marvel 2. She greenlit every stupid show and movie as long as it passed a message. She was fired but her bullshit will still linger. This is all Feige's fault for thinking the MCU will just keep going without any effort
I used to respect feige, but now he's a shell of his former creative genius self, he's been compromised by woke homosexualry beyond repair as well as the rest of israelitewood. I don't even consume current media anymore, I have a hyper response to even an ounce of woke propaganda.
>I used to respect feige, but now he's a shell of his former creative genius self
I am sorry but he was never a genius. Just a guy there at the right time that had some passing knowledge of Marvel which overshadowed him. He took all the best Marvel stories that should have spanned an entire year and used it for a movie or a show or in the case of Thor Ragnarok, two major stories in comics into one movie. He just pick and choose the best stories and made movies out of them. There is no genius of this guy and it's obvious that he was being carried hard by RDJ and Chris Evans. He is like the Phil Jackson of movie producers where Jackson was called the greatest coach ever in the NBA but he coached Jordan, Pippen, Shaq, Koby etc so was he really a good coach or just coached the best players and they carried him?
>He is like the Phil Jackson of movie producers
Interesting take and analogy, I never thought of it that way, and you're right, RDJ and Chris were the lifeblood and pre 2012 the woke virus wasn't as strong. But eventually the woke virus took everything over post 2012 and Feige was compromised and couldn't even do what gave early MCU it's success.
It's the story of everything popular. It starts as white male dominated and gets really popular and eventually "where are the woman and POC" demands start and then it inevitably gets worse. This happened with the walking dead where like there was one black character but towards the end almost everyone was black and at that point the show was done. It's like a mathematical formula at this point, the longer you have something successful, the greater the chance that calls for diversity will start and once you give in its over and the quality goes dramatically down. South Park was the only show ever to handle this bullshit well adding a black character literally named Token.
Cultural Marxism
well said anon. Just to add some context to my posts, I'm not even white , I'm actually pakistani born in raised in cali, and I fricking hate what this woke ideology has done to the shit I grew up with. These fricking woke revolutionaries literally have made me not consume media. Perhaps it's time to stop consuming israelite homosexualry at this point.
Not only that but people will start becomming bitter and resentful towards you by default because they will assume you agree with all that shit as a brown guy. My libertarian black friend explained this to me that he hates liberals because they are the reason white supremacists hate him because they assume he believes that shit.
I have gotten that from random people when I am out and about. When people ask me about any current marvel/star wars, or even Hollywood in general, I tell them the woke ideology has ruined media for me, and they can't believe a non white has these opinions, one dumb b***h called me an uncle tom and white washed. Unbelievable if this is what we're dealing with. it's like they can't comprehend there are people of other races who fricking hate this woke shit, which is the majority.
One of my favorite teachers from high school is currently being canceled on Facebook because he said things, and I quote, "unbecoming of a man who was experienced oppression personally". He is asian. He's a fantastic geometry teacher. His family are wealthy business owners. How on Earth is that oppression?
The worst thing is that "academic representatives" from other states are also getting in on the hate wagon. They probably don't even know who he is.
If it’s any consolation, because of affirmative action in admissions I strongly favor Indian and south East Asian medical staff
most of my family and extended family is a professional degree holder of some sort, and I can promise they didn't need affirmative action(they earned it), which I vehemently disagree with, people should be judged by their merits and character not superficial checkboxes.
No, I mean that schools hold Asians to a higher standard so it’s led to me becoming biased towards believing that Asians in professional positions are particularly competent
r/asianmasculinity redpilled me about how Chinese and especially Koreans that live in the US hate white people with a passion to almost psychotic levels. Worse than blacks I would even say.
Asian males are good in worker roles. They are not good in leadership roles for the most part. When you assign some work tasks to some asian dude that shit will get done in a timely manner.
Okay what they are gonna do about it?
>Okay what they are gonna do about it?
They should find a nice Asian woman and marry them instead of b***hing that white girls don't like them.
They can even find white girls especially these days with all the anime zoomer girls
Yea because that's a forced social media fad. Zoomettes will post that Korean doctor guy over and over and say he's so cute and still only date white guys. It's a tale as old as time, claiming you support something just because it sounds right.
that johnny gat guy you all basedface over on Cinemaphile is not attractive. there are no attractive asians at all really. women have a better sense for beauty than you do
Hey Kamran Pasha just wanted to say I love your videos and frick everyone who shits on you and Doomwiener. You guys are much more entertaining and fun to listen to than the Midnight's Edge guys or anyone else from that sphere.
not Kamran, but hey I appreciate it either way, there are a lot more of us indian/pakis like Kamran, we hate woke israelite homosexualry and want to go back to the good ol days, we have no issues with white people being the majority in their own country. I love USA (not the woke shit tho) kek
Holy shit it really is Kamran Pasha. Tell me who Sparrow really is you fricking dweeb, I'm not paying you $2 a month to read Doomwieners videos an hour early.
it would be worrisome if this also occurred on the societal level
isn't it already happening on a societal level? I work in tech and I literally have to lie about my opinions.
>it would be worrisome if this also occurred on the societal level
It does. I live in a super blue state. Every company outing people always start talking politics and they assume since you live there you must agree with their far left opinions. I just stay quiet because there is no winning in this situation if I argue.
Vaclav Havel has a book about this phenomenon
An ideology can be carried along by inertia and if it’s suppresses dissent but is unable to measure sincere public sentiment the regime runs the risk of hollowing itself out - like the coyote running off the cliff, it doesn’t fall immediately because it doesn’t realize that it’s foundations have already disappeared
Havel was also in the entertainment industry and successfully took over a country just so he could produce his scripts
>There is no genius of this guy and it's obvious that he was being carried hard by RDJ and Chris Evans.
>Evans
Are we pretending we like that gay now?
He is a shit human being but he played the character fine.
Other way around moron
No, he was right the first time around
he carried his captain america movies and the MCU joint projects big time.
He's somehow managed to burn decades worth of decent stories and now they're left with the box office poison Marvel Comics has pumped out for the last couple decades or nothing. It's incredible how short-sighted he was.
>and now they're left with the box office poison Marvel Comics has pumped out for the last couple decades or nothing
Literally only from the last 10 years
It took Marvel comics 80 years until the multiverse and diverse characters kill them. The MCU got there in 15. MCU right now is literally mirroring everything that brought comics down.
>He is like the Phil Jackson of movie producers
No. Jackson was legitimately great.
We will never know if that is true based on how he picked his teams. The Knicks were begging him to be their coach throwing money at him but their team was godawful and he knew it and how it would tarnish his reputation.
Extensive Inaccurate casting from source material. I don't watch the movies because of that.
Like I thought the CGI & Technology and shit was supposed to get better over time.
This is ass.
Pure digital buttcheeks.
Diversity hires lmao. Writing should be better, directing should be better, everything should be better, but hollywood all across the board is going backwards.
I understand getting old and wrinkled, but come on, what's up with the baggy eyes?
I have them because I don't sleep well but an actress having them is jarring
She looked haggard and harried.
she has literal brain damage
She had 2 brain aneurysms and had parts of her brain removed.
>what's up with the baggy eyes?
In-universe, the character had just buried her father and spent almost every waking moment after that fighting for her life.
Besides the AI opening and Clarke’s coom arm, what actually happened in this show?
From what I know, Maria hill dies, and Don Cheadle's character gets revealed to be a Skrull. The real one died in Civil War.
War Machine isn't dead. He was rescued in the last episode.
People speculate he was switched early on but that's just stupid. Most likely happened during the 5 year skip or during the chaos after Endgame.
>Maria hill dies
Really she was hot?
She was so hot back during Avengers 1 and Winter Soldier. Sadly so long ago
Disney has been very generous with their roles to the post-wall hollywood starlets.
HAHAHAHA
She's a troony. Very noticeable adam's apple when they're talking to her in the jet on a screen. I forget which movie.
They killed "her" off because "she" does not pass anymore.
Jesus. Characters like that who have been there from the beginning deserved a better send-off.
She got a hero's funeral, what else do you want. You're the same type of person to b***h when good guys don't get killed at all.
NTA, but I'd want a character who's been around since Phase 1's death to be a bigger deal than that. It was essentially the equivalent of a horror movie's cold open kill.
So everything he said since CW is bs then?
Yes.
Also how can you not have a scene where War Machine gets released from captivity for all these years and not have him ask "Where's Tony". Such an obvious slam dunk emotional heart string tug and they didn't do it.
Because he wasn't in there since CW.
According to the show he was captured at some point before Tony died so he wouldn't know that Tony was dead on release.
According to the show....bullshit
I don't disagree that the show is total trash but if this show has to exist and has to be canon then all I am saying is they should have added that line.
I mean the show never implied when he was taken.
https://gamerant.com/secret-invasion-war-machine-skrull-replaced-when-explained/
>ecret Invasion director Selim has commented on the most common question fans have had after the reveal in an interview with ComicBook. “A lot of people have asked about, ‘Definitively, when did Rhodey...?’ I think his legs not working at the end of episode six and him being in the hospital gown points to 'Captain America: Civil War'."
I mean they allude to this in the show but here it is from the show runners mouth before you start more semantics.
Which is a moronic take. His legs didn't working Endgame either. He had to rely on the suit or braces. And he would have gone to the hospital many times over the years
>Which is a moronic take
Doesn't matter. He made the show. That's when Warmachine was abducted. You were wrong. GGEZ next map.
And even he is still only SPECULATING. Read it again. I'm not saying which one is right just that saying "according to the show" is bullshit
see
See
see
You can keep being moronic if you want. Your own link says they are purposely being ambiguous. Cope more. Your own post shows you are wrong.
Mic drop. I'm out
I accept your concession.
>nd not have him ask "Where's Tony".
You wake up from a coma inside to find out you had been kidnapped by aliens and stored inside of a machine in the middle of CHERNOBYL and you think the first thing out your mouth is to ask is about some other man?
>The real one died in Civil War.
They literally show the real Rhodey being rescued in the final episode.
is she dying on the show?
She's the peak vigor of health.
Just look at that one arm!
Who is she looking at?
The camera.
nanomachines son
Don't remind me of that god awful movie.
They fricken killed John Connor in cold blooded meta-murder.
Literally nothing really matters because multiverses and shit + zero hype about anything so the shitty writing is especially blatant + fatigue.
Who is that walking ballsack?
nice seizure inducing flashes
Just genuinely bad. I am baffled they continue to make these stupid decisions
how was she able to kill him when they both have super healing powers? he got shot in the face and walked it off.
Wow. Shit has gotten pretty bad, huh? I don’t really watch anything new, so I’m always surprised to see how heinous effects have become
This looks like a very big budgeted CW show or Asylum movie.
I can't take this wrinkly b***h seriously.
I love her so much bros but I can't get over the fact McFarlane ejaculated inside her multiple times.
It's like finding out your crush has a scat fetish.
>thinking she was anything more than Mchomosexual's beard
lolyou
most punchable face ever dude
Imagine the sex
What happened to queen of qts
Veganism aged her considerably in the years since GoT.
she needs bit of fat on her face.
Never liked her. She has that uncanny baby-face and thick eyebrows look that only the lowest caste Indian women have. A Pajeeta in a white costume. Great body though.
Still cute.
I stopped at Endgame, what could muh Warmachine have said that mattered anyway?
Why does her leather jacket turn into an arm.
Why does the arm have Drax's tattoos?
Because she has the DNA of all the MCU heroes, including Drax. I shit you not, that is the actual explanation.
Are tattoos part of Drax's DNA? Is the leather jacket that can morph the DNA of another superhero?
I've been thinking the same thing. First of all choosing drax strength over hulk strength is just stupid and a downgrade you have no reason to nerf yourself with the same kind of ability.
Second of all why the frick would the drax arm have tattoos? Those aren't natural marks of his skin he was born with, they're tattoos he got put on him as grew older cause in his culture you get tattoos on your body that tell your life story.
Dumb inconsistencies and plot holes like this really piss me off.
>choosing drax strength over hulk strength is just stupid
Historically people always seem to frick themselves up trying to give themselves Hulk's powers. Even in the MCU it's basically a fluke that works best on people that share him genetic makeup.
>Disney should nail down like 3-5 directors whose only job it is to make cape shit so they can constantly talk to each other and make sure their movies are connected and make sense.
You just described Feige's entire job. They have an entire department ran by one person for that purpose.
>sure he could
Most actors don't want to play the same character forever. This isn't Star Trek.
You have writers who aren't fans of the comic book characters writing stories about comic book characters. What do you think was going to happen? They're writing their own stories, generally about some reddit tier leftie framing of a social issue, and wrapping it as a comic book story. They're doing the same thing in every genre. Behold the era of the millennial writer and prepare to suffer for the next few decades.
Almodt all of capeshit in the last 2/3 flooped so why the frick are they still making them? Do they even make them a profit?
Civil War and Secret Invasion should have been a story that lasted for an entire year or longer and multiple movies and shows should have focused around it. You can't take plot lines that ran for years and condense them into a single 2 hour movie or in DCs case, they did the death of Superman story in the last 20 minutes of Batman V Superman
>Secret Invasion should have been a story that lasted for an entire year or longer and multiple movies and shows should have focused around it.
Admittedly, I don't know a heck of a lot about the comics, and as such, due to their similar titles, I thought Avengers: Secret War was going to be a sequel of sorts to Secret Invasion. Like "You thought the Skrulls' first attempt at world domination was bad, well their second is even worse!" Once you get 'invaded,' then you're at 'war,' etc. But apparently it turns out the Secret War story in the comics has nothing to do with the Skrulls and now I'm just sitting here befuddled that Disney turned what could've been a massive Invasion of the Body Snatchers/The Thing-style epic saga into some bullshit about how Nick is very old and sad and none of the Avengers were involved. Frick me.
This is the issue where you hire different directors to do different things. I really think Disney should nail down like 3-5 directors whose only job it is to make cape shit so they can constantly talk to each other and make sure their movies are connected and make sense. This is how they do it in the comics.
Yh the show didn't even bother keeping who was a skrull a secret. They just told you and expected you to have that basedface reaction. They could've still made it work but you're right, these are infinity saga level stories that marvel just torched. DC could easily be fixed but from the looks of what James Gunn has planned the franchise is fricked for at least another decade.
This is why the Marvel shit looks like that now.
>NOOOOO, don't unionise!
>What about the heck indianarinos doing all the marvel CGI
>Indian
>Loves Roman Reigns
pottery
>‘If you don’t let us make shitty vfx for you we will be FORCED to work at a scam call center’
MADAM DO NOT REDEEM
got woke went broke
>you know all the awesome 70/90's comis everyone loved
>lets skip all that and use the new woke comics they can't sell and everyone hates to make movies about
>man, people loved all these heroes
>if we kill them off and replace them with DIVERSE replacements, they'll surely sell even better
Problem is, RDJ can't play iron man forever.
Then you stop making movies whenever he (and Chris and Scarlett and etc) wants to stop.
sure he could he's not like batman where he has to be in prime shape. Iron man can be old his suit does most of the work
People keep saying this but no one has the actual definition for it? What makes something "woke" in media?
why do you libtards pretend you dont know what woke means?
To be "woke" (in a broad sense) is to be aware of some sort of social issue that affects marginalized groups. What is the right's definition of "woke?" Hint: There isn't one, which is my point.
Isn’t it interesting that ‘woke’ and ‘red pilled’ are synonyms?
Really makes you think
wokeness is a strain of american social and cultural liberalism that centers "the personal is political", reducing all political action as a matter of personal moral hygiene - woke is something you are, not what you do. it has its roots in american academia: anti-racism, intersectionality, equity, privilege etc. It's obsessive about language to the point of coercion and control. it's analysis is structural but imposes action on the individual. the woke enlightened person aims for moral cleanliness, but one slip up can't be atoned for. this is also predicated on how people feel: validated, triggered, victimised, privileged. etc.. because those poor minorities can't feel sadness at any time. this cynicism also drives a lot of the woke ideas of institutional capture and reform, and seeing oneself as the moral highground gives ample opportunity to shift blame to the problematic "other". it treats minority immutable attributes as virtues, it's own kind of social credit system
That's...still not woke means (I'm talking abut it's original term).
its what semi-illiterate homies called people who shared their revisionist afrocentric view of history and politics
I don’t care what anyone says, my grandma told me that cleopatra was black
What it means in practice, what it’s commonly understood to mean, and what you think it meant originally are certainly different things
However, for daily usage his definition is much more accurate than yours
There's no "commonly understood to mean" because there's is no agreed term to what most people think of when they hear the word "woke" (because they don't know what it is) and the word salad you posted proves my point.
Who cares? You wokesters always derail the conversation with the whole "umm what's your definition of woke?!" shit
this, they act fricking stupid by saying "hurr durr what is woke durr" and then we explain it ad nauseum and the same question gets asked again.
The definition was LITERALLY given to you (
) and you went off to say "lol not true"
this
is the definition. yours is full of assumptions
woketards can't even define "woman" lmao
Cause it's a question in bad faith.
it's a simple question, why don't woketards know what words mean when they're the ones doing all the language policing?
Are the woketards in the room with us right now?
An adult woman or anyone who identifies as one.
the second definition contradicts the first
just in this thread
when someone identifies as a woman, what are they identifying as? what does the word mean?
It's a gender expression generally favored by people with a XX chromosome, you may now concede
expressing what exactly? favoured implies conscious choice, which isn't the case in the entire non-american world where "gender choice" isn't a concept or part of their worldview
>expressing what exactly?
Their gender lol pay attention. There are a lot of traits we consider to womanly or manly in society and it'd be tedious to list them all. We would generally consider people who embody these traits to be either a man or a woman
what is the "woman gender"? a manly woman isn't a man. why can't you provide an explicit definition of a woman?
I just did, are you having trouble understanding? Which part do you need dumbed down?
your definition of woman is someone who identifies as a woman, which means having a woman's gender expression, but at no point did you define what a woman is, just endless tautologies
>your definition of woman is someone who identifies as a woman
No it isn't, I didn't say that. Why are you lying?
Not an argument.
one response says this
which is basically the same as this
being tautological here
That first post isn't mine. You should probably take the time to learn how this website work and how to follow reply chains. To avoid more embarrassing mistakes like this
You tried to dogpile and you failed. I accept your concession
Does this mean you're done? I don't blame you lol it's hard when people don't stick to your script and you actually have to engage
Thats... How words work?
woketard can't define a woman lmao
gender expressing what? you keep going in circles without saying anything. if a woman is a gender expression, a woman gender expression is what exactly? are libtards really this dumb
The only reason we're going in circles is because you can't engage with my answers. You just restate your question because I'm not following your script lol
a vague undefined term isn't a suitable definition for another vague undefined term. there's no "script", just think about it rationally for a minute, maybe the woke brainwashing will wear off
I am thinking rationally, only one of us is having trouble with this conversation. So now that I've defined woman you want me to define something else? Which term is hard for you to grasp?
i understand that words are difficult for you. maybe you're ESL or not a white male, but words mean something, and you've failed repeatedly provide a definition for "woman", so I can only conclude that you don't know. i know it's embarrassing for you, you can just stop posting
Oh we're doing this again? Pretending I didn't give you a definition an hour ago? Here I'll link it again:
I take it by your seething adhoms and begging me to stop posting you're conceding the argument like the other anon?
you didn't define what the gender expression *is*. what gender expression? expressed how?
>"what is a florgle?"
>"it's a blargle"
>"what's a blargle?"
>(no answer)
I kept asking you what else you wanted defined but you would dodge and seethepost instead before restating your original question. Here, do some reading: wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_expression
Not an argument.
I asked you to define what "woman gender expression" means
here
here
here
here
and here
and not one of your replies answered it, why not?
I answered here:
And even relinked it several times. Now I've provided you with a wikipedia link but that isn't good enough either? Seems like you've accepted my definition of woman at least so I'll take that concession.
you just passed the buck to "womanly" and "manly" without defining those either, an endless tautology
per
is a manly woman a man?
any answer to that makes your gender expression link pointless
No I explained pretty clearly over an hour ago that there are many womanly and manly traits and it's tedious to list them all. Let me just speed run this next part of the conversation since you seem kinda slow
>Give me specific examples of womanly traits!!!
Wearing a dress, having long hair and painting your nails is seen as womanly
>Ermmm but what if a man does those things??? Does that make them a woman???
No because being a woman is comprised of many different traits that are too numerous to list
>Ermmmm okay but how do we know which traits are manly and which are womanly?
This is defined societally and can vary in other parts of the world
>Uhhh... But... Uhhh... What is a woman? You still haven't defined that!!!
Then the conversation loops ad nauseam, I give a definition; you demand a definition from within that definition and then another and then another and then we go back to your original question again
>He's still upset
Just accept you got BTFO and move on, this is sad
How can you btfo me here? Unpossible because all I've been doing is casually disregarding all your civilization-collapsing ideas.
you never mentioned any of those things. you never defined any of the traits of a woman, and why whether man having some subset them is still a man.
>Wearing a dress, having long hair and painting your nails is seen as womanly
Is this image of a woman? Be honest
>No because being a woman is comprised of many different traits that are too numerous to list
Try listing them. A woman wears a dress right? What about a woman wearing pants? Do the clothes make the woman? Be honest
>This is defined societally and can vary in other parts of the world
List some culturally different ways a woman is defined at birth. In cultures where they don't have dresses are there any women? In Scotland, men wear kilts, are they actually women?. Be honest
>Then the conversation loops ad nauseam, I give a definition; you demand a definition from within that definition and then another and then another and then we go back to your original question again
You said a "woman" is a "gender expression", and that "gender expression" is "womanly" (whatever that is, dresses or something?), but not whether a "man" displaying some "womanly" traits is a "woman" and vice versa.
>Is this image of a woman?
I'm guessing it's a man dressed as a woman
>A woman wears a dress right?
Sometimes yeah
>What about a woman wearing pants?
That would be a woman wearing pants
>Do the clothes make the woman?
No, like I've already explained that's just one of many traits we use to determine someone's gender
>In cultures where they don't have dresses are there any women?
Yes like I said different cultures have different traits
>In Scotland, men wear kilts, are they actually women?
No
>but not whether a "man" displaying some "womanly" traits is a "woman" and vice versa.
A man with some womanly traits is still a man, a woman with some manly traits is still a woman.
You know I keep answering your dozens of questions but the goalposts seem to be getting further and further away. It's almost like you don't want to accept my definition which is fine. You can have your own understanding but I feel confident I've explained mine. Your concession has been officially noted and logged, I'll let you have the last word so you can try to salvage your ego (I won't read it)
>I'm guessing it's a man dressed as a woman
How do you know it's a man?
>That would be a woman wearing pants
How do you know it's a woman wearing pants?
>Yes like I said different cultures have different traits
Like what? I've never been to Japan, but I could with a 100% success rate identify men and women. Same with Ghana or some Eskimo tribe. I'm unfamiliar with their cultural worldviews, why would it be so easy for me?
>A man with some womanly traits is still a man, a woman with some manly traits is still a woman.
So your definition of a "woman" being someone who "gender expresses" what is "womanly" is completely useless.
Which of these two persons in this image is a woman and why? If you don't answer, I'll consider it a concession.
>I'm guessing it's a man dressed as a woman
very transphobic statement, assuming someone gender from a photo
Yeah don't need to argue about basic stuff that children know. You gonna argue with someone that 2+2=5 next lil fella? Lil wokey boy kek
I accept your concession.
Can't concede because I never engaged with your society destroying views, just dismissed them outright. Heh, dumby.
No one conceded an argument to you, you just tired them out by going in circles with your "definitions". But your whole purpose was to derail any kind of conversation by arguing about basic reality which is part of the woke script.
>Not an argument.
neither is saying having 'womanly traits' make you a woman
This is what libtards genuinely believe
It's one of their tactics; they don't want you talking about/noticing the ideology they put into every piece of media nowadays. Their side were the ones who came up with it but now that the right uses it against them they pretend not to know what it means and asking you to define it.
it's called gaslighting
They're trying to trick you into saying something offensive so they can discredit everything you say. Everyone knows what woke is.
Entire empires crumble under a single mistake. For Feige it is not recasting Iron Man and Captain America. There are so many stories left to tell and they can't because those characters are now gone.
agree ironman was the backbone of capeshit gonna be hard to live with no backbone
People forget Iron Man wasn't even popular or even that liked prior to RDJ's take on Stark.
It's not like replacing Warmachine. RDJ is Iron Man, you can't just recast him. Endgame was a fitting send off.
The problem is they thought you can just hand Falcon the shield and introduce Iron Heart or some shit down the line and people will just eat it up.
>It's not like replacing Warmachine. RDJ is Iron Man, you can't just recast him
They said the same thing about Connery and Bond. You can. I don't even think RDJ portrayed the actual character well.
>I don't even think RDJ portrayed the actual character well.
Based take, but the comics are modeled on the movies now, essentially.
>I don't even think RDJ portrayed the actual character well
He is literally the only reason why MCU exists.
>He is literally the only reason why MCU exists.
I understand that. But he didn't play Ironman. Ironman is not some quip throwing playboy. He is a mentally flawed borderline fascist character which was why he was on team pro government during the civil war comics.
>Ironman is not some quip throwing playboy.
Then everyone in the MCU became a quip throwing snarky fricker.
Then it even extended to other franchises such as Star Wars.
RDJ and the MCU were a mistake.
GotG's success cemented that. Regardless if you like that movie or not, it was the most quippy and the rest followed.
Iron Man had pros and cons. I agree that RDJ wasn't a 1:1 depiction but he did a pretty good job with it. The issue was when the sequels started modeling themselves after him, and not the other way around.
They did a similar thing with Hemsworth's IRL personality and Thor, but it wasn't until the third one.
> He is a mentally flawed borderline fascist character
He was arguably this since AoU
>He was arguably
No he arguably wasn't. He dipped his toes into it slightly in AOU and immediately changed his mind.
>He is a mentally flawed borderline fascist character
That's literally him in AoU and Civil War
>he's that in 5% of the MCU's existence and realizes the errors of the way and immediately changes back
Can we stop with these terrible whataboutisms on this site?
Not recasting T'Challa was a huge mistake as well. John David Washington could've made a great replacement for Boseman. I feel like they went with the emotional reflex reaction instead of stopping and thinking about what was best for the series. At least Tony and Steve had their stories told. There was still so much left to do with T'Challa that we can't now, because they panicked and threw the baby out with the bathwater. Now, whenever they get around to introducing the X-Men into the MCU, we'll never get T'Challa and Ororo as a couple, which saddens me.
Yeah, that was weird. Marvel got fricked by that happening and let the real world bleed into their production a little too much.
>we'll never get T'Challa and Ororo as a couple, which saddens me
That story was garbage, kys homosexual
They definitely should have recasted T-Challa or appointed a new male lead
>John David Washington
Not him though.
I like Colby but Maria Hill wasn't some big named character. The way her death was handled was about on par with Coulson's, which is as much as a spy should get. Even in the AoS show when they send off two of their own (alive) they make a point of saying spies don't get big send offs. Maria Hill got a proper military funeral which is the biggest spy send off really.
All that matters is Emilia had fun making the show
This is based, I can now cancel GoT and GoT fans.
She was damn eager in the first season because she was fresh out of school and was offered a starring role in a epic series.
>the GoT producers demanded she strip down nearly every day of filming
Fricking based.
>"I can't believe I've got to strip and frick all the time in order to play this character that gets stripped and fricked all the time!"
>be got producer
>hire actress solely for hotness
>"eh she can't act, but as long as she keeps getting naked who cares"
>actress has certified woman moment and refuses to get naked
>can't fire her because of feminism
>show goes to shit
you'd be spewing i reckon
was it a ripoff or an homage?
At least they killed off Iron Man before the Arno Stark, Tony is actually an alien and not related to Howard shit.
Oh god please don't remind me
Marvel was already dogshit unable to keep up with even the most basic moronic shonenshit. Imagine making a universe on that never ending bad writting and giving it to a israelite to milk forever.
So Gaia is basically God now, with the powers of literally everyone from the Infinity Saga. She could probably solo Thanos WITH the Infinity Gauntlet. How long before the inevitable bullshit "Gaia can't come and help us because she got lost in Intergalactic Walmart" excuse?
>So Gaia is basically God now, with the powers of literally everyone from the Infinity Saga.
Pretty much, though somebody like Strange or Wanda might be a challenge for her (assuming they had the jump on her first).
I don't think she can do magic, so that'd be a hard counter
Most of the powers she got amount to "strong and durable". The only real advantages are telekinesis, fire and ice powers, and Captain Marvel's energy blasts.
She's op, but not THAT op.
She's every Phases 1-3 hero and villain rolled into one. You're going to have to search for a good, long while for someone capable of beating her, without getting into OP cosmic shit like the Watchers and beyond.
>telekinesis, fire and ice powers, and Captain Marvel's energy blasts
Flight, healing/regeneration, mental manipulation, phasing, plant manipulation, alien magic, and while she didn't use them in the fight (at least not that I can recall), there's no reason to think she can't also use Thor's lightning, Strange and Wanda's magic, and Spidey Sense.
> Woke happened
> No singular direction (Is it about the multiverse, the Skrull invasion, mutants?)
> No charismatic, likeable singular character to "lead" the franchise at this point (like RDJ and Evans once were for phase 1-3)
> Lackluster phase 4 (and which this current phase is shaping out to be)
> So much behind the scenes drama (overworked employees, the actors and writer's strike, etc.)
> Superhero fatigue (which could've been mitigated at least a little bit if the MCU was still good)
They started making capeshit in 2008
Looks worse than Galidor, and that was a kids show from 20 years ago
It was good until the last episode when the capeshit came in. The same types that hate Andor also hate this.
Got soft
Bunch of dipshits wormed their way into actual decision making
Shit scripts without focus
overpaid white liberal women. they will be modernity's downfall
SO, MARVEL, HUH?
women
you will never be born with a vegana.
the problems of the minority are not my problems, just go somewhere else woth your minority and become a majority so no one will have any problems.
kys,
shit thread
It’s weird how every time a GoT star joins a Marvel production it’s shit, they must be fricking cursed or something.