>MD Geist 1 >Slightly haphazard but cool 80s OVA during the bubble economy boom >MD Geist 2 >Slapped together ten years later with money from an American weeb who was obsessed with the original and made a company about it. >MD Geist 3 >Flash animation made by 4-5 /m/ users that's still one of better modern /m/ anime somehow.
>>MD Geist 3
animation made by 4-5 /m/ users that's still one of better modern /m/ anime somehow.
So, basically Inferno Cop (a.k.a. Aqua Teen Hunger Force for weebs)?
In M.D. Geist I, he fought the military and released an automated army instead of shutting it down, because he enjoys killing things
In M.D. Geist II, he seems kind of bored of fighting the Death Force and finds a new rival.
I honestly don't know how they could expand on this universe without just retreading ideas from I and II. Have him fight a clone of himself? II is sort of like that. Maybe you could combine ideas from I and II and have him find a vault filled with other MDS, and have him release them and they all go Baldur's Gate on each other?
There's enough backstory to be expanded upon in the production materials that if something was to be done from the ground up it could be done, but really it wouldn't get made and it wouldn't suit today. It would need to be made with total sincerity and not with an "ironic" mindset.
The lightness of the story in the first incarnation of the first OVA is honestly a strongpoint, for a production of its kind you really just need enough of a background for events to proceed. I don't really need to know about the politics between two warring factions in space for something that's only on for 40 minutes, but it is fun if that content is given more substance elsewhere.
>Maybe you could combine ideas from I and II and have him find a vault filled with other MDS, and have him release them and they all go Baldur's Gate on each other?
Don't forget about the comics
Honestly just have Geist drop into any random setting & let him frick shit up. I don't want or need a Geist tragic origin story that would just end up being Jason Bourne in space.
Geist doesn't need our sympathy, he needs to slaughter.
>Birth: >The name “Geist” is known to be of German origin. It means “spectre” and is derived from the word “poltergeist” (noisy spirit), a term which should be familiar from films and other such fiction and media. Since his facial features are closer to Aryan than Anglo-Saxon, it is safe to conclude that Geist’s parents, or at least one parent, are German and have fairly strong Aryan blood.
>Background (youth to adulthood): >No one knows about Geist as a boy. Therefore, the following is complete speculation, but in light of his subsequent actions, there are some agreeable findings. Geist’s father was a military man, or very close to the military, and was exceptional in this regard. A considered result of this is how Geist’s strategic knowledge and judgement in combat has not been cultivated by personal effort alone, rather his father mentored Geist from an early age with the aim to become an excellent soldier in the future. In addition, it seems that hard rigorous training was compulsory in order to maximise the physicality of the whole body. Legs that can run faster than anyone, arms that can carry many times their own weight, reflexes that can compare with an animal’s, and sharp vision, smell and hearing that are the result of early training. Later in life, as a result of Bioclone science, his fighting ability alone became comparable to that of an army, but this training during his youth cannot be understated. Naturally, a scientific training menu was provided in order to eliminate impairments that prevents growth a-la sports injuries.
>Career (Regular Army Enlistment): >Upon completing compulsory education, Geist makes his way to becoming a soldier without hesitation. Like other young people who want to become the centre of the military in their future, Geist enrols in military academy and achieves outstanding results even before graduation. However, an incident occurred during his time at the institute which changed his life. Some say that it was an accident. When it comes to specific incidents (or accidents) however, many points are unclear. Both a former colleague and an instructor stubbornly shut down when the subject was broached. According to an unverified source, another cadet envied Geist’s highly superior skills, and he and a large number of other cadets were killed during a live firing exercise. Geist suffered for his own negligence, but at the same time found unprecedented joy in this murder…
>There is no guarantee the credibility of this information is high. However, with the thunderous presence of such a rumour to him, there is a certain degree of truth. Before long, the truth vanishes like a phantom, and the former elite is assigned to the Special Forces unit like he wants, to dirty his hands…
Frick reboots and frick remakes. It is mindless drone logic to consume what's familiar. People like you are why we have Starbucks, McDonalds and Walmart every 10 miles.
Probably the same redditgay who started the whole "To Be Fair, You Have To Have a Very High IQ to Understand Rick and Morty" meme.
VOTOMS is a 50 episode series while Geist is not.
Not only did Votoms have 52 episodes, there was also a Comic BonBon manga, and a bunch of OVAs. As for M.D. Geist, there was a couple OVAs, and a prequel comic.
This OVA is really stupid. Sure people can say "as long as it gives you boom boom blood slatter, it is enough to solid". However, you need an amount of context and proper storytelling to deliver your posterboy in all his glory. Geist is a blankstate character, he did not show proper joy in destruction and killing, he obviously struggled with it, only for the last minute, the story told he audiences that he is super evil and sadistic and loves violence? This OVA feels like a diet version of Votoms, an all badass mecha man that does killingspree, but without Votoms's excellent storytelling and character depiction.
>Pacific Rim: BLACKED has already been forgotten
was it that bad?
2 years ago
Anonymous
I almost forgot about that.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It is offensively mediocre. Theres some good ideas but it doesn't really do a whole lot with them. It's not a must watch and its also not bad enough for people to be angry at it.
Geist is just a hyper-exaggeration of what a soldier "should be"
He is very adept at killing but doesn't show any real joy in it the same way someone who works at a job they're good at but is so used to it they don't care. Him activating the thing at the end could be seen as an instinctual need to keep fighting the same way a soldier is "programmed" to want to fight all the time
Geist isn't necessarily "evil" he's just a force of a nature brought to its most realistic conclusion
Ever since the 2000s, Western Animation hasn't been as squeamish as Anime. Just look at SuperJail, Primal, and later seasons of Aqua Teen. Moreover, M.D. Geist is only ever remembered in the west. If M.D. Gesit ever gets a reboot, it will most likely be a western production.
I've never wanted a reboot or a sequel, but instead a prequel that's an action where you play as another MD soldier and end up having Geist as the final boss. Just to explain why he had a bullet hole in his head in the opening of the first OVA.
literally who? I rarely ever watch anitubers outside a small handful, so I have absolutely no clue who tf you're talking about. The idea of getting my opinions for a mouthbreather with a webcam instead of finding out for myself by sitting down and watching it is fricking morono-to-the-max.
>Bennett the sage
haven't heard that name in years, last thing I saw from him was when he got butthurt over End of Eva and saidSpace Adventure Cobra was bad
i just remember that there's no likable characters and the story isn't very interesting. none of that matters because md geist is just a 40 minute spectacle. i'm just speculating but I know at the time part of anime's draw was big serial stories. so many cartoons were just episodic shit so people may have expected MD Geist to lead somewhere or end somewhere properly. it doesn't
M.D. Geist really does deserve to be avenged with a sequel- that's good, if only to complete the poetic justice of the universe. It's terrible, rips off a bunch of other material, but the main character is so batshit insane that it ties it together in a fun way. As long as the sequel/remake doesn't go like genocyber, which was too much of the author's gore fetish.
I don't even think the action sequences in Geist were that good, but pretending to be dead with a bullet hole sticker and stabbing someone with a knife that has a grenade tied to it is the looney toon logic that makes Geist dumb in a good way.
>if someone can't appreciate something for what it is after the fact, it's insincere
you just sound like an autistic hipster that's just butthurt people you think are annoying like the things you do
>reboot/sequel >M.D. Geist 4 (4 is the number of death in Japanese culture) >The Terran Hegemony shows up on Jerra >holy shit this guy pretty much solo'd a whole fricking planet >greatidea.jpg >send a offer of "endless war" to Geist >Geist accepts >Geist goes from rebellious world to world >becomes known as Geistmacker (Ghostmaker) >Geist has exceeded the death toll of every genocide in prior history COMBINED >but eventually he is getting old >talks to the EH about replacing him >he is told that he can't be replicated and is sterile >so he wants to create a robot army based off of his brain scan >the EH rigs the procedure to kill Geist >he dies >the new robots fricking DESTROY every force placed against them >then they try to turn them off...
The older I get the less I want a retread of this anime. It exists best in its own bubble as a 40 minute OVA in which its story is minimal in favour of fantastical, esoteric designs and direction (medieval knight-like power armour, a computer fortress guarded by robots that look like dragons, the guardian robot having three different "Russian doll" forms, the prison satellite looking like a giant hourglass etc.), I think any attempt to "Real Robot" it up or try to up the ante in terms of its violence and action would just fall flat on its face. M.D. Geist 2 did a decent enough attempt but being made 10 years after the original, with a different vision, makes it practically a different interpretation. If there really had to be some form of expansion on the setting or a re-visit, an online manga that drew from the original production materials, to flesh out the narrative, would be the best way to go.
I second that. M.D. Geist got a western comic, but not a manga. Just imagine someone took the original production material, and made a manga out of it? Just call it Shin Violence Jack, and it will sell like hotcakes.
The liner notes included in the original home video release in Japan describe the power armour as being one of the Regular Army's various weapons against the Negsrom Army, and that it never hit its stride in combat until after the nuclear stage of the war, and that the demanding toll it took on the body meant few soldiers could use it efficiently. Geist being who he is, means the uncontrollable nature of the power armour explodes when crossed with him. Production story elements such as this are what seem most ripe for light expansion.
Some but not a lot, Ground Zero was mostly an original work at the time, made to promote Director's Cut and Death Force (part of the new footage in Director's Cut references the first couple of pages of Ground Zero). The names of the ABCD Programs are referenced in the comic, but that's about it. For example, the complete works book offers an entirely different scenario for Geist's origins while Ground Zero plays it as him being a completely lab-made automaton who only speaks in three words or less (and then undoes this in the comic adaptation of the OVA by giving him one liners).
Some but not a lot, Ground Zero was mostly an original work at the time, made to promote Director's Cut and Death Force (part of the new footage in Director's Cut references the first couple of pages of Ground Zero). The names of the ABCD Programs are referenced in the comic, but that's about it. For example, the complete works book offers an entirely different scenario for Geist's origins while Ground Zero plays it as him being a completely lab-made automaton who only speaks in three words or less (and then undoes this in the comic adaptation of the OVA by giving him one liners).
> The complete works book offers an entirely different scenario for Geist's origins. >Ground Zero plays it as him being a completely lab-made automaton who only speaks in three words or less.
In that case, guess there are two continuities. One comprises of Ground Zero, Director's Cut, and Death Force. The other one comprises of complete works book and the original version of the first M.D. Geist OVA. Would be nice to see developments on the original story of M.D. Gesits, rather than Central Park Media's filler.
Something I've been (slowly) working on is a translation of the complete works book plus other pieces of media. From the section on Program D:
>Program A (Aggressive) is land, sea and air warfare. >Program B (Burning) refers to full nuclear war. Geist is imprisoned prior to this and returns following the aftermath. >Program C (Catastrophe) is post-nuclear ground combat.
In terms of continuity, this is personally my preferred series of events.
>MD Geist 1
>Slightly haphazard but cool 80s OVA during the bubble economy boom
>MD Geist 2
>Slapped together ten years later with money from an American weeb who was obsessed with the original and made a company about it.
>MD Geist 3
>Flash animation made by 4-5 /m/ users that's still one of better modern /m/ anime somehow.
>>MD Geist 3
animation made by 4-5 /m/ users that's still one of better modern /m/ anime somehow.
So, basically Inferno Cop (a.k.a. Aqua Teen Hunger Force for weebs)?
more like this
>Flash animation made by 4-5 /m/ users that's still one of better modern /m/ anime somehow.
Somehow I can actually believe this.
In M.D. Geist I, he fought the military and released an automated army instead of shutting it down, because he enjoys killing things
In M.D. Geist II, he seems kind of bored of fighting the Death Force and finds a new rival.
I honestly don't know how they could expand on this universe without just retreading ideas from I and II. Have him fight a clone of himself? II is sort of like that. Maybe you could combine ideas from I and II and have him find a vault filled with other MDS, and have him release them and they all go Baldur's Gate on each other?
There's enough backstory to be expanded upon in the production materials that if something was to be done from the ground up it could be done, but really it wouldn't get made and it wouldn't suit today. It would need to be made with total sincerity and not with an "ironic" mindset.
The lightness of the story in the first incarnation of the first OVA is honestly a strongpoint, for a production of its kind you really just need enough of a background for events to proceed. I don't really need to know about the politics between two warring factions in space for something that's only on for 40 minutes, but it is fun if that content is given more substance elsewhere.
Now i realized that Riku Sanjo wrote M.D Geist. This guy wrote some of the worst kamen rider episodes and characters.
Yeah he was 19 when he first wrote M.D. Geist.
>dissing W and Drive
shit taste
>Maybe you could combine ideas from I and II and have him find a vault filled with other MDS, and have him release them and they all go Baldur's Gate on each other?
Don't forget about the comics
Honestly just have Geist drop into any random setting & let him frick shit up. I don't want or need a Geist tragic origin story that would just end up being Jason Bourne in space.
Geist doesn't need our sympathy, he needs to slaughter.
>Birth:
>The name “Geist” is known to be of German origin. It means “spectre” and is derived from the word “poltergeist” (noisy spirit), a term which should be familiar from films and other such fiction and media. Since his facial features are closer to Aryan than Anglo-Saxon, it is safe to conclude that Geist’s parents, or at least one parent, are German and have fairly strong Aryan blood.
>Background (youth to adulthood):
>No one knows about Geist as a boy. Therefore, the following is complete speculation, but in light of his subsequent actions, there are some agreeable findings. Geist’s father was a military man, or very close to the military, and was exceptional in this regard. A considered result of this is how Geist’s strategic knowledge and judgement in combat has not been cultivated by personal effort alone, rather his father mentored Geist from an early age with the aim to become an excellent soldier in the future. In addition, it seems that hard rigorous training was compulsory in order to maximise the physicality of the whole body. Legs that can run faster than anyone, arms that can carry many times their own weight, reflexes that can compare with an animal’s, and sharp vision, smell and hearing that are the result of early training. Later in life, as a result of Bioclone science, his fighting ability alone became comparable to that of an army, but this training during his youth cannot be understated. Naturally, a scientific training menu was provided in order to eliminate impairments that prevents growth a-la sports injuries.
>Career (Regular Army Enlistment):
>Upon completing compulsory education, Geist makes his way to becoming a soldier without hesitation. Like other young people who want to become the centre of the military in their future, Geist enrols in military academy and achieves outstanding results even before graduation. However, an incident occurred during his time at the institute which changed his life. Some say that it was an accident. When it comes to specific incidents (or accidents) however, many points are unclear. Both a former colleague and an instructor stubbornly shut down when the subject was broached. According to an unverified source, another cadet envied Geist’s highly superior skills, and he and a large number of other cadets were killed during a live firing exercise. Geist suffered for his own negligence, but at the same time found unprecedented joy in this murder…
>There is no guarantee the credibility of this information is high. However, with the thunderous presence of such a rumour to him, there is a certain degree of truth. Before long, the truth vanishes like a phantom, and the former elite is assigned to the Special Forces unit like he wants, to dirty his hands…
Not everything needs a sequel or reboot.
Just good BD remaster would made my day.
Frick reboots and frick remakes. It is mindless drone logic to consume what's familiar. People like you are why we have Starbucks, McDonalds and Walmart every 10 miles.
Too bad not even Violence Jack is safe.
Probably the same redditgay who started the whole "To Be Fair, You Have To Have a Very High IQ to Understand Rick and Morty" meme.
Not only did Votoms have 52 episodes, there was also a Comic BonBon manga, and a bunch of OVAs. As for M.D. Geist, there was a couple OVAs, and a prequel comic.
Theres not enough insane people working in the anime industry to actually go trough that
This OVA is really stupid. Sure people can say "as long as it gives you boom boom blood slatter, it is enough to solid". However, you need an amount of context and proper storytelling to deliver your posterboy in all his glory. Geist is a blankstate character, he did not show proper joy in destruction and killing, he obviously struggled with it, only for the last minute, the story told he audiences that he is super evil and sadistic and loves violence? This OVA feels like a diet version of Votoms, an all badass mecha man that does killingspree, but without Votoms's excellent storytelling and character depiction.
this reads like a copypasta but it isn’t
VOTOMS is a 50 episode series while Geist is not.
Moreover, a Votoms reboot seems more likely than an M.D. Geist reboot. Just imagine Netflix doing a live action Votoms?
Netflix productions are dogshit.
Good thing they didn't adapt anything /m/
They're adapting Fallout at the moment, which is as close as they have gotten.
>Pacific Rim: BLACKED has already been forgotten
was it that bad?
I almost forgot about that.
It is offensively mediocre. Theres some good ideas but it doesn't really do a whole lot with them. It's not a must watch and its also not bad enough for people to be angry at it.
Geist is just a hyper-exaggeration of what a soldier "should be"
He is very adept at killing but doesn't show any real joy in it the same way someone who works at a job they're good at but is so used to it they don't care. Him activating the thing at the end could be seen as an instinctual need to keep fighting the same way a soldier is "programmed" to want to fight all the time
Geist isn't necessarily "evil" he's just a force of a nature brought to its most realistic conclusion
t. Justin Sevakis
You watch DANGEROUS, MOST DANGEROUS to see shit blow up, you don't really care about things like context or plot.
Ever since the 2000s, Western Animation hasn't been as squeamish as Anime. Just look at SuperJail, Primal, and later seasons of Aqua Teen. Moreover, M.D. Geist is only ever remembered in the west. If M.D. Gesit ever gets a reboot, it will most likely be a western production.
I wouldn't necessarily want it, but I could see it done along the lines of the Castlevania anime & new Bastard!! anime.
No.
>later seasons of Aqua Teen
Wow so the whole time Carl wasn't fat, but just pure muscle in the shape of being fat.
Nah, but the series got more violent as it went on.
Isn't Genocyber more fondly remembered than M.D. Geist, especially the first episode?
Genocyber has more material overall, so it's not that surprising.
Geist had a lot of early internet anime "critics" hang it up as some kind of pariah. I don't think Genocyber ever got that kind of treatment.
In that case, I wonder how today's zoomer weebs react to the classics, like M.D. Geist?
Frick off.
I've never wanted a reboot or a sequel, but instead a prequel that's an action where you play as another MD soldier and end up having Geist as the final boss. Just to explain why he had a bullet hole in his head in the opening of the first OVA.
*action game
It was make-up.
>no
>no
>no
It's fine, leave it alone.
Idk, I would most likely show some of geist’s exploits before he was sent to space jail. Show why he is DANGEROUS!
ok so why is this regarded as universally bad (except here on /m/) because I watched it a few months back and it was fricking great
normalgays have genuinely horrible taste
First wave anime snobs perpetuated a meme it was one of the worst anime for years.
Stop getting opinions from dumpsters like Bennett the sage.
literally who? I rarely ever watch anitubers outside a small handful, so I have absolutely no clue who tf you're talking about. The idea of getting my opinions for a mouthbreather with a webcam instead of finding out for myself by sitting down and watching it is fricking morono-to-the-max.
>outside a small handful
Why you even watching any at all
mostly for analysis of shit i've already watched, not for recommendations or opinion pieces.
>who?
>describes Bennett perfectly
>a small handful
No realky, stop watching any of that crap.
Bennett perfectly
literally all anitubers do what he does, it's really not that unique
It's kinda sad but some anons come here to vent their grudges against literally who "personalities" who live rent free in their heads.
>Bennett the sage
haven't heard that name in years, last thing I saw from him was when he got butthurt over End of Eva and saidSpace Adventure Cobra was bad
Last I heard he did a video on Eva which could be sumed up as "regurgitated shit"
>BTS
Fricking garbage reviewer.
i just remember that there's no likable characters and the story isn't very interesting. none of that matters because md geist is just a 40 minute spectacle. i'm just speculating but I know at the time part of anime's draw was big serial stories. so many cartoons were just episodic shit so people may have expected MD Geist to lead somewhere or end somewhere properly. it doesn't
Yazan Isekai
M.D. Geist really does deserve to be avenged with a sequel- that's good, if only to complete the poetic justice of the universe. It's terrible, rips off a bunch of other material, but the main character is so batshit insane that it ties it together in a fun way. As long as the sequel/remake doesn't go like genocyber, which was too much of the author's gore fetish.
I don't even think the action sequences in Geist were that good, but pretending to be dead with a bullet hole sticker and stabbing someone with a knife that has a grenade tied to it is the looney toon logic that makes Geist dumb in a good way.
Frick off you insincere twat.
Just because you don't agree with him and his personal opinion got your panties in a twist doesn't mean he's insincere.
Anyone who pivots toward something being transcendentally good is insincere.
>if someone can't appreciate something for what it is after the fact, it's insincere
you just sound like an autistic hipster that's just butthurt people you think are annoying like the things you do
>reboot/sequel
>M.D. Geist 4 (4 is the number of death in Japanese culture)
>The Terran Hegemony shows up on Jerra
>holy shit this guy pretty much solo'd a whole fricking planet
>greatidea.jpg
>send a offer of "endless war" to Geist
>Geist accepts
>Geist goes from rebellious world to world
>becomes known as Geistmacker (Ghostmaker)
>Geist has exceeded the death toll of every genocide in prior history COMBINED
>but eventually he is getting old
>talks to the EH about replacing him
>he is told that he can't be replicated and is sterile
>so he wants to create a robot army based off of his brain scan
>the EH rigs the procedure to kill Geist
>he dies
>the new robots fricking DESTROY every force placed against them
>then they try to turn them off...
The older I get the less I want a retread of this anime. It exists best in its own bubble as a 40 minute OVA in which its story is minimal in favour of fantastical, esoteric designs and direction (medieval knight-like power armour, a computer fortress guarded by robots that look like dragons, the guardian robot having three different "Russian doll" forms, the prison satellite looking like a giant hourglass etc.), I think any attempt to "Real Robot" it up or try to up the ante in terms of its violence and action would just fall flat on its face. M.D. Geist 2 did a decent enough attempt but being made 10 years after the original, with a different vision, makes it practically a different interpretation. If there really had to be some form of expansion on the setting or a re-visit, an online manga that drew from the original production materials, to flesh out the narrative, would be the best way to go.
I second that. M.D. Geist got a western comic, but not a manga. Just imagine someone took the original production material, and made a manga out of it? Just call it Shin Violence Jack, and it will sell like hotcakes.
The liner notes included in the original home video release in Japan describe the power armour as being one of the Regular Army's various weapons against the Negsrom Army, and that it never hit its stride in combat until after the nuclear stage of the war, and that the demanding toll it took on the body meant few soldiers could use it efficiently. Geist being who he is, means the uncontrollable nature of the power armour explodes when crossed with him. Production story elements such as this are what seem most ripe for light expansion.
There is also the Ground Zero prequel comic. Though, I'm not sure how faithful that is to the Japanese liner notes and original production materials.
Some but not a lot, Ground Zero was mostly an original work at the time, made to promote Director's Cut and Death Force (part of the new footage in Director's Cut references the first couple of pages of Ground Zero). The names of the ABCD Programs are referenced in the comic, but that's about it. For example, the complete works book offers an entirely different scenario for Geist's origins while Ground Zero plays it as him being a completely lab-made automaton who only speaks in three words or less (and then undoes this in the comic adaptation of the OVA by giving him one liners).
I wish there was scans floating around of the comic, but imo I don't mind Geist dropping a cheesy one liner here and there.
I scanned it years ago but frick knows where those are anymore.
> The complete works book offers an entirely different scenario for Geist's origins.
>Ground Zero plays it as him being a completely lab-made automaton who only speaks in three words or less.
In that case, guess there are two continuities. One comprises of Ground Zero, Director's Cut, and Death Force. The other one comprises of complete works book and the original version of the first M.D. Geist OVA. Would be nice to see developments on the original story of M.D. Gesits, rather than Central Park Media's filler.
Something I've been (slowly) working on is a translation of the complete works book plus other pieces of media. From the section on Program D:
>Program A (Aggressive) is land, sea and air warfare.
>Program B (Burning) refers to full nuclear war. Geist is imprisoned prior to this and returns following the aftermath.
>Program C (Catastrophe) is post-nuclear ground combat.
In terms of continuity, this is personally my preferred series of events.
>Shin Violence Jack
Don't you mean Shin M.D. Geist? Besides, there already is a Shin Violence Jack.
As long as it’s got Geist killing motherfrickers while hair metal blasts in the background I’ve got no issues with it
M.D. Geist doesn't need a reboot, it needs a game the way Yakuza devs made that latest Hokuto No Ken game
I want an M.D. Geist game to be a 1986 Famicom run-and-gun with the quality of a licensed title of the era to boot.
M.D. Geist's OST FRICKING SLAPS!!!
>
Even Cinemaphile misses M.D. Gesits!
Don't you mean
butthole?