nukes would make it better as long as they were to target smallish ones inside the London orbital road, the entire West Midlands, Manchester/Liverpool/Lancashire, Leicester, Bristol, Brighton, South Wales below the Cambrians and the Scottish Central belt
I know its a reddit meme but this movie really fricked me up.
Not for it's violence/gore/incomprehensible accents, but because it reminded me just how impossible a situation like that would be. I live fairly rural but near enough an Air Force Base so we could be a target and even if I survive and am well armed it would still be a true struggle to survive, and even if I did I'd be scarred by the radiation for life.
I have no idea but I usually don't have trouble understanding accents and I struggled. It might have been the shitty soundmix (I was watching on my friends Shudder account) or the fact my "sound system" is a $120 Vizio Soundbar but it was rough, and for reference I thought The VVitch was fine.
Did you really need a TV show to make you realize this? Millions of people around the world get put into worse situations than this every day by regular wars, conflicts, and frickups, no nukes needed. Yeah if you lose access to good and services shit sucks.
>Tfw no movie does the post apocalyptic medieval society theme of the second half justice
I just want to see more irradiated miserable people stuff half dead crops in supermarket bags while raggedy looking soldiers loom over them goddamnit.
The first half/third of this movie sucks ass. Before the bombs drop all the bullshit drama is grating and unnecessary. Who the frick thought a movie grimly and realistically portraying a global thermonuclear holocaust needed an Abortion subplot?
The real stuff is after the shit hits the fan and it turns into a pseudo-documentary, hitting you with solid, informative and horrifying factoids while bringing them to grisley life with the visuals, at a highly accelerated pace.
One of the rare examples of a movie that starts off utter dogshit and then eventually becomes kino rather than the other way around.
absolutely phenomenal film in the first half then completely nosedived off a cliff in quality/believability as soon as Ruth left the city for the country side and it started doing time skips
One thing that always rubbed me the wrong way in this movie, specifically towards the end, is the weird inclusion of the detail that the next future generation would be gibberish-speaking morons who can barely communicate outside of a bizarre new semi-literate creole language, simply because of a lack of organized and institutional education. I mean it's a vaguely interesting detail but it felt less like a real possibility in the scenario and more like something Miller would make up for a Mad Max tribe to do to make them more "interesting".
Historically people who never had a day of modern institutionalized education because they lived on a farm or some shit were still fully-capable communicators; or even articulate. Even people who never learned how to read of write could often at least speak well and maintain even above-average vocabularies; they just couldn't put it to paper. You learn communication by being around other people.
Weird detail that took me out of the otherwise nicely bleak and disturbing ending that I weish they hadn't included.
everything in that end sequence was kind of moron in my opinion. I was extremely bothered by them eating the raw sheep, like somehow humans would forget how to make fire? Bob can butcher a sheep with a pocketknife but they can't get a fire going to cook it? I don't care how starving you are it would not be that hard to cook it first
Most of us already have. good luck finding a flint in that scenatio. I'm extremely confident 90%+ of this board has not and could not make fire just with wood and kindling. Honestly, it's fricking hard. I couldn't manage it when I was a weak 16 year old. Now I'm stronger, so maybe.
I'm what some people consider a "prepper" and the most 100% moronic misconception people have is that we'll someone how go back to the stone age as soon as something goes wrong. There is nothing that will make all the disposible bic lighters, tinder boxes, or what have you disappear. you are never going to have to start a fire by rubbing sticks together unless you're intentionally trying to, there are always ways. you can make striker boxes out of pure iron.
It's a topic I'm interested in so I put a lot of thought into it, and it's what inspired me to take up blacksmithing as a hobby. We are surrounded by iron absolutely everywhere around us, there is absolutely ZERO SHTF scenarios where humans live but somehow all the iron disappears, you will always have access to iron. Therefore, if you want to imagine what SHTF apocalypse humanity looks like, you should imagine Pioneer technology, like what the pioneers used to settle NA before the industrial revolution or what the Amish currently live by. This is who you should learn from/model after, not stone age technology. Pioneers and Amish don't start fires by rubbing sticks together, there's dozens of simple devices that make it 100x easier and that's not even mentioning most of the population will have a lighter in their pocket already
>lack of organized and institutional education
That still exists to some extent.
The implication is more that everyone's too depressed/ busy with survival to properly develop as a person plus a hint of radiation turning kids into morons.
Why do they always portray nuke movies as dark and bleak with live being devastated forever?
Pretty much in every instance we have observed the literal opposite; in places where radiation exists nature thrives in it. There are lush forests in Chernobyl and Nagasaki that sprouted out in a matter of months
>Before the Kuwait fires proved nuclear winter isn't a thing
Elaborate? I know nuclear winter isn't taken as seriously anymore, but how did the Gulf War contribute to that?
>Why do they always portray nuke movies as dark and bleak with live being devastated forever?
It would be dark and bleak because of the way our society is structured with two weeks of food on the shelves.
Quite unironically CND propaganda funded by the Soviet Union. As we disarm globally the cost of exchange falls and so its likelihood rises. A limited nuclear exchange would be tolerable and by no means end civilisation.
>Dead Man's Letters
The scene in a makeshift infirmary hall is powerful. When i was a kid, this one and other Lopushansky's works were broadcasted in around midday to late evening time slots and sometimes even in the morning.
I assure you're russian? Does he hold any fame still in there, it's weird how there's no restorations for his works as they aren't really that obscure when it comes to postapoc films
>Ending shows grops starting to grow again giving a sliver of hope >Juxtapose it by demonstrating that children have become feral without any parents to raise them >They rape a girl who can barely speak words who then gets pregnant and is implied to continue the cycle
Really rubs me the wrong way, it's so excessively bleak to assume humans would degrade so fast within a generation or two
>what if a nuclear holocaust could actually make the UK worse?
Let's stick within the realms of reason here, mate.
nukes would make it better as long as they were to target smallish ones inside the London orbital road, the entire West Midlands, Manchester/Liverpool/Lancashire, Leicester, Bristol, Brighton, South Wales below the Cambrians and the Scottish Central belt
I know its a reddit meme but this movie really fricked me up.
Not for it's violence/gore/incomprehensible accents, but because it reminded me just how impossible a situation like that would be. I live fairly rural but near enough an Air Force Base so we could be a target and even if I survive and am well armed it would still be a true struggle to survive, and even if I did I'd be scarred by the radiation for life.
If it comes to nuclear war you're better off killing yourself.
>incomprehensible accents
Aren't they just from Manchester? I can't actually remember.
I have no idea but I usually don't have trouble understanding accents and I struggled. It might have been the shitty soundmix (I was watching on my friends Shudder account) or the fact my "sound system" is a $120 Vizio Soundbar but it was rough, and for reference I thought The VVitch was fine.
I'm British (not English) so I suppose I was just used to their accents.
It's set in Sheffield. I used to walk to work thru the bit where the woman passes her pants
I hope you die from the blastwave.
>I know its a reddit meme
nuclear winter wouldnt be as bad as they made it look. Still terrible but not that terrible
Did you really need a TV show to make you realize this? Millions of people around the world get put into worse situations than this every day by regular wars, conflicts, and frickups, no nukes needed. Yeah if you lose access to good and services shit sucks.
t. privileged suburban American
Watched this kino in the first week of lockdown 2020, set the tone nicely
Contagion was also comfy watching back then
Yep, ticked that one off as well
I have you all beat. I played the OG Deus ex for the first time the day after lockdowns started
nucular bombs are just black magick
>Tfw no movie does the post apocalyptic medieval society theme of the second half justice
I just want to see more irradiated miserable people stuff half dead crops in supermarket bags while raggedy looking soldiers loom over them goddamnit.
kino
The first half/third of this movie sucks ass. Before the bombs drop all the bullshit drama is grating and unnecessary. Who the frick thought a movie grimly and realistically portraying a global thermonuclear holocaust needed an Abortion subplot?
The real stuff is after the shit hits the fan and it turns into a pseudo-documentary, hitting you with solid, informative and horrifying factoids while bringing them to grisley life with the visuals, at a highly accelerated pace.
One of the rare examples of a movie that starts off utter dogshit and then eventually becomes kino rather than the other way around.
The tension of listening to radio reports in the background is great.
you're a fricking moron, the movie doesn't work without the buildup
The build up at the beginning to is completely necessary. You're moronic.
are you thick in the cranium, we need to feel attachment to these characters, i will frick your mother c**t face
absolutely phenomenal film in the first half then completely nosedived off a cliff in quality/believability as soon as Ruth left the city for the country side and it started doing time skips
One thing that always rubbed me the wrong way in this movie, specifically towards the end, is the weird inclusion of the detail that the next future generation would be gibberish-speaking morons who can barely communicate outside of a bizarre new semi-literate creole language, simply because of a lack of organized and institutional education. I mean it's a vaguely interesting detail but it felt less like a real possibility in the scenario and more like something Miller would make up for a Mad Max tribe to do to make them more "interesting".
Historically people who never had a day of modern institutionalized education because they lived on a farm or some shit were still fully-capable communicators; or even articulate. Even people who never learned how to read of write could often at least speak well and maintain even above-average vocabularies; they just couldn't put it to paper. You learn communication by being around other people.
Weird detail that took me out of the otherwise nicely bleak and disturbing ending that I weish they hadn't included.
everything in that end sequence was kind of moron in my opinion. I was extremely bothered by them eating the raw sheep, like somehow humans would forget how to make fire? Bob can butcher a sheep with a pocketknife but they can't get a fire going to cook it? I don't care how starving you are it would not be that hard to cook it first
>somehow humans would forget how to make fire
Most of us already have. good luck finding a flint in that scenatio. I'm extremely confident 90%+ of this board has not and could not make fire just with wood and kindling. Honestly, it's fricking hard. I couldn't manage it when I was a weak 16 year old. Now I'm stronger, so maybe.
I'm what some people consider a "prepper" and the most 100% moronic misconception people have is that we'll someone how go back to the stone age as soon as something goes wrong. There is nothing that will make all the disposible bic lighters, tinder boxes, or what have you disappear. you are never going to have to start a fire by rubbing sticks together unless you're intentionally trying to, there are always ways. you can make striker boxes out of pure iron.
I guess you have a point
It's a topic I'm interested in so I put a lot of thought into it, and it's what inspired me to take up blacksmithing as a hobby. We are surrounded by iron absolutely everywhere around us, there is absolutely ZERO SHTF scenarios where humans live but somehow all the iron disappears, you will always have access to iron. Therefore, if you want to imagine what SHTF apocalypse humanity looks like, you should imagine Pioneer technology, like what the pioneers used to settle NA before the industrial revolution or what the Amish currently live by. This is who you should learn from/model after, not stone age technology. Pioneers and Amish don't start fires by rubbing sticks together, there's dozens of simple devices that make it 100x easier and that's not even mentioning most of the population will have a lighter in their pocket already
>lack of organized and institutional education
That still exists to some extent.
The implication is more that everyone's too depressed/ busy with survival to properly develop as a person plus a hint of radiation turning kids into morons.
I thought they must have been moronic from radiation damage / malnutrition / neglect.
Nuclear apocalypse is a reddit genre
Why do they always portray nuke movies as dark and bleak with live being devastated forever?
Pretty much in every instance we have observed the literal opposite; in places where radiation exists nature thrives in it. There are lush forests in Chernobyl and Nagasaki that sprouted out in a matter of months
Before the Kuwait fires proved nuclear winter isn't a thing, people thought the climate and subsequently crop production would be fricked for decades.
>Before the Kuwait fires proved nuclear winter isn't a thing
Elaborate? I know nuclear winter isn't taken as seriously anymore, but how did the Gulf War contribute to that?
>Why do they always portray nuke movies as dark and bleak with live being devastated forever?
It would be dark and bleak because of the way our society is structured with two weeks of food on the shelves.
>nukes are... LE BAD?
Bravo
You do have a plan for the food shortages come next winter, do you, anon?
Quite unironically CND propaganda funded by the Soviet Union. As we disarm globally the cost of exchange falls and so its likelihood rises. A limited nuclear exchange would be tolerable and by no means end civilisation.
Will we see a nuclear attack rivaling the ones on Japan in our lifetime? Who's the perpetrator and who's the target?
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>Dead Man's Letters
The scene in a makeshift infirmary hall is powerful. When i was a kid, this one and other Lopushansky's works were broadcasted in around midday to late evening time slots and sometimes even in the morning.
I assure you're russian? Does he hold any fame still in there, it's weird how there's no restorations for his works as they aren't really that obscure when it comes to postapoc films
Slow creeping despair kino thread? I can recommend pic related, watched it yesterday. Pretty bleak.
>Ending shows grops starting to grow again giving a sliver of hope
>Juxtapose it by demonstrating that children have become feral without any parents to raise them
>They rape a girl who can barely speak words who then gets pregnant and is implied to continue the cycle
Really rubs me the wrong way, it's so excessively bleak to assume humans would degrade so fast within a generation or two