What is your favorite movie quote?

What is your favorite movie quote?

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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    He's right. You cannot claim there is no God until you prove it.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      i fricked your mom at sometime in her life, you can't disprove it thus it happened

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        You post here, disproven.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      You cannot prive the absence of something infinite outside of material space. Its inherently unfalsifiable. Thats why the athesit position is inherently illogical and emotional only.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Atheism is 1/4th white guilt, 1/4th "frick you daddy" and 1/2 hedonism.

        They will badger any claim or position or any form of evidence till the dawn of time so they don't feel guilty about touching their peepee at night.

        "athiests say nobody can probe god"
        "but nobody can prove the big bang"

        That's actually kinda funny.
        The position of most atheists during the enlightenment up to the turn of the century was to prove God existed, you need to prove that the universe had a beginning. The position of atheists was that the universe was infinite, timeless and eternal.
        When the big bang was discovered, the secular world had a complete and utter fit about it. It was the intelligent design argument of its age.
        When the evidence for it was just too great, they moved the goal post and did post hoc recreational history that the church tried to hide the discovery of the big bang. The church tried to hide the discovery a bishop found.

        This should tell you that their claim of intelligent inquiry is dubious and mostly a facade. 90% of their actions and arguments prove this

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >t-the big bang proves that god exists...
          >It just does...
          >...OKAY?!?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >God?
            Yes
            >Abraham's desert Bullshit?
            No

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >I pick and choose what I want to believe but when someone calls me out on it oh boy you better look out

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes atheists are usually just butthurt children
          Ive met some that arent and had great respect for them. Not everyone finds God off the bat. But being a giant homosexual saying something which you have no ifea about doesnt exist because dinosaurs or something certainlt isnt going to help you. Maybe that's the goal for them. They dont want God. Easier to just not have to grow.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >But being a giant homosexual saying something which you have no ifea about exists
            look in the mirror homosexual

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        and vice versa, theists cannot prove anything so they are also illogical and emotional

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          But theism has an ability to be proven. Atheism has no ability to be proven.
          They are not the same. They are in fact opposites. Cope harder goy.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >But theism has an ability to be proven
            lol sure thing
            you people are so deluded and scared of not having a sky daddy

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Go ahead then homosexual

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Okay prove it

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Placing God, unicorns, unobtanium and extra terrestrial anal probing in the same bracket is a good plan, anon. You will go far.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I’m not even an atheist but this is moronic. The burden of proof is on the person claiming something happened or something exists.
        No one can “prove” god exists. That’s the point of faith. You either believe in it or you don’t.

        The existence of God is a possible answer to the questions “How did the universe come to be?” and “What happens to consciousness after death?” It is an answer that cannot be disproven, which, by the scientific method, says that it cannot be discarded. If there is no evidence that God does not exist, then it must be accepted as a possible answer, even if you don’t believe in it.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          if you're asking questions like "how did the universe happen" you have to ask "how did god happen". If you're concerned about consciousness you have to know what consciousness is to begin with. hint: chaos theory at a large scale

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I’m not even an atheist but this is moronic. The burden of proof is on the person claiming something happened or something exists.
      No one can “prove” god exists. That’s the point of faith. You either believe in it or you don’t.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        It’s not even about burden of proof, it’s about the fact a negative can’t be proven.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's an extraordinary claim and thus requires extraordinary proof, the burden of which rests on theists.

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    a 16 year old reddit atheist can respond to this, embarrassing

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is this movie any good? Like aside from good quotes and shit is it entertaining or boring?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's literal, actual, unironic propaganda. Worth a watch to laugh at how bad it is.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's definitely so bad it's good

      the ending in particular is so fricking crazy you won't believe it's happening, it makes the whole thing worth it by itself

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Its good in not an insightful or legitimately entertaining way but as a testament to the state of evangelical “art”

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's free on youtube

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It is funny, has over the top acting, and ridiculous caricatures. The atheist philosophy professor trope is the funniest to me because I'm a philosophy majory and the subject is deeply intertwined with religion

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm religious but that movie was dogshit.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I am a devout Christian (Christ is King and aI denounce the Talmud), and the only Christian movies I can recommend are The Jesus Film with Brian Deacon as Christ, the Passion of the Christ, and Martin Luther. That's it. Everything else is trash, ESPECIALLY this shitfest of a movie. The gayest thing in all cinematic history isn't when Jake Gigglyhall boned Heath Ledger. It's in this movie when all the students get up one by one in the auditorium to declare that God is not dead, and then every jackass who just watched the movie sent a text message to people in their contacts that God's not dead. I must have received like a dozen texts from people in my church when this movie first came out. I went with my church to see The Passion, but I refused to see this pile of steaming shit that made nothing but strawmen for the freshman to defeat. Frick this movie.

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    define God and define what it means to "prove" something exists

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Define "define"

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm an atheist and even I agree with this. It's why I usually call myself an agnostic.
    >tips fedora
    Yeah, yeah, I know...

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Atheists will just say atheism = lack of belief in God. Not affirmative belief that we know there's no God. You can be agnostic atheist (lack belief in God but don't claim to know).

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Atheists will just say atheism = lack of belief in God
        This is such a pseud motte and bailey. I've never met an atheist that was able to keep it in their pants how not only do they think there is no god but that it's their job on this earth to tell everyone there isn't.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I never met an Atheist
          That's just it. If they were quiet about it like you wanted, you wouldn't know. You only know the outspoken ones, so you think they all are. Confirmation bias. Also we like to argue because people do crazy stuff in the name of religion. They also do crazy shit in the name of diversity and I rail against that too.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Oh my God shut the frick up with your hyper literal bullshit you defective sack of shit.

            I have met people who say they don't believe in God. I'm speaking hyperbolically. You'd fricking know that if you weren't so God damn fricking stupid.

            Go ask God yourself how important being so pedantic is after you have a nice day.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >I'm speaking hyperbolically
              I figured as much when you called me a defective sack of shit. You aren't persuading anyone.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      you're just an atheist

      how many people do you think would actually claim they know, for certain, that there is no god? pretty much nobody. that would require some kind of magical absolute knowledge that nonreligious people aren't going to believe in, by definition.

      if 99.9% of atheists are "agnostic atheists," then that's just being an atheist.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        no dude theres a difference athiests belive there is a lack of evidence agnostics dont understand the evidence religobros belive the evidence is sufficient

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      oh, so you're stupid

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        made me laugh one of the best comments in the thread albeit verry mean lmao im also stupid makes it even funnier "im not agnostic"

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can’t prove a negative. This is an axiom of knowledge.

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous
  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    When atheists ask for "proof" or "evidence", they never specify what would qualify as proof or evidence in their eyes. They do this specifically so they can wave away any evidence brought before them as not being evidence or proof. It's called an empirical spiral. They are demanding empirical evidence (empirical evidence being exclusively natural) to prove a being beyond time and space exists.

    Atheism is simply a smokescreen for hedonism and no atheist has proven me otherwise. Their "secular inquiery" is simply a Trojan horse to allow degeneracy.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, but this is well known by all religious people alike

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >When atheists ask for "proof" or "evidence", they never specify what would qualify as proof or evidence in their eyes.
      Booming voice descending from the heavens to commmand a crowd of several thousand bystanders. Someone genuinely walking on water, turning water to wine or raising the dead. A trumpet that when played tears down concrete walls. If you want to go more metaphysical everyone walking up tomorrow knowing God exists for sure, then deciding whether to follow Him or not. All these things supposedly happened fairly regularly, yet non of them happen anymore.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        silence of God does seem strange. like why doesn't he just show up and chill with us for a couple days every couple years. do a tour, going from city to city, then bouncing.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        God parts the waters for the Hebrews but leaves the train tracks to Dachau curiously unscathed.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          God is a pragmatic, he knows that by having a couple thousand israelites wasted in the camps, then they would get to rule the west for 100 years.

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >X say that no one can prove the existence of Y, but I say no one can disprove that Y exists

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      If something can only exist if it is proven through your own methodology, a methodology that has been proven to be questionable, let alone you're completely fine with other concepts being true without it proven through this methodology, you're being deliberately dubious.

      If this was about any other matter than Christianity, you wouldn't be this hard pressed.

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    "athiests say nobody can probe god"
    "but nobody can prove the big bang"

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    This universe requires a Creator. Something cannot come from nothing. Everything that is has an origin.

    God revealed Himself through the events of the Bible and His Son Jesus.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Who created God then?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        No one. God has always existed.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >say a rule
          >but what about god
          >god doesn't need to obey a rule

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            the theist argument is God is a necessary being. The universe is a contingent entity because it could possibly not exist. Thus it needs a creator

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Well god could very possibly not exist, and a giant space elephant could have created god. Are you denying the existence of Pachyaweh?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                i suppose the theist argument is that God is not just a God and has certain attributes (All-powerful, All-knowing, All-loving), and is a necessary being thus cannot have a creator.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                those atributes that are defined by mortals are the attributes of an imortal fyi

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            This is a fair response to someone who is making a bad argument, but no serious religious philosopher has ever made the claim that "all things must have a cause"
            The short answer to the question is that God is the ground of Being. No, I wont elaborate.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >thing I invented as an answer has to exist because...it just has to!

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Rather, existence MUST exist because it exists. What is existence in essence?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes existence has to exist because we see it.
                But a God or a flying noodle creature doesn't have to because we don't see it.
                And I mean literally not "in the eyes of a baby" or "the rays of the sun" bullshit.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              you dont have to that is a substantiation beyond its misinformed equivication
              "we need to understand"
              "there is an understanding"
              "i do not understand"
              "neaither do i ""ok""

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        i think the idea is that god is the universe and he created himself how you ask nobody knows but ways of doing it would involve cyclicle time multiple dimensions ect even persepton could be fricked with i guess observence might enforce existance and god may have observed itself and therefore existed

        how can something be aware if it does not exist ?
        maybe it was not always aware
        what created the awareness then the unaware obervation of an existance?? maybe

        so why was there something and not nothing?
        maybe there was both in different places that allowed the observation maybe something fills nothing and nothing fills something like a snake eating its tail

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        This universe requires causality. We don't know how it works in the heavenly dimension where God operates. Time and space might not even exist there. Why would the Creator be beholden to the physical laws of his own creation?

        Also He explains it in the Bible. His Name is literally "I AM" the self-existent one.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          except of Mega-God, the creator of creating and God

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            But what created Mega-God?

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Mecha-God.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Who created the universe?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Me

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Something cannot come from nothing
      nothing of the gaps
      recurring mindset is it

      When atheists ask for "proof" or "evidence", they never specify what would qualify as proof or evidence in their eyes. They do this specifically so they can wave away any evidence brought before them as not being evidence or proof. It's called an empirical spiral. They are demanding empirical evidence (empirical evidence being exclusively natural) to prove a being beyond time and space exists.

      Atheism is simply a smokescreen for hedonism and no atheist has proven me otherwise. Their "secular inquiery" is simply a Trojan horse to allow degeneracy.

      >being beyond time and space exists

      You cannot prive the absence of something infinite outside of material space. Its inherently unfalsifiable. Thats why the athesit position is inherently illogical and emotional only.

      >something infinite outside of material space
      yeah athesit position is inherently illogical and emotional only

      it's all cope
      "god" issue is first and ultimately a psychosociological issue

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Something cannot come from nothing.
      prove it

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Matter can neither be created or destroyed. It didn’t require a “creator.”

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >everything has an origin
      >except god which has always exists
      everytime with you keks

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >something can't come from nothing
      >ps god is exempt from that

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        It’s gods all the way down bruh

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        ps
        we call god that thing you cant describe

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          so if you can't describe god then by definition every religion is wrong

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >atheists when someone worships god instead of pepsi co

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      conservatives when a company has clothes they dont like

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cobson isn’t a coalburner.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      but it's okay to castrate your children because globohomosexual scientists told you right?

      Look in the mirror you homosexual

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        this is truly beautiful cope. the statistical fact is that the vast majority of leftists and trannies are atheist. nothing will ever change this. that’s the data.

  12. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    That guy is a homosexual.
    Good luck disproving this lol.

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone who disbelieves in a creator, an afterlife, an order to the universe also believes that souls randomly go into bodies of the wrong gender.

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >catholics say that no one can prove the existence of Pinocchio and they're right but I say no one can disprove that Pinocchio exists.

  15. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What is your favorite movie quote?
    any line from my favorite movie American Psycho.

  16. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why is Christianity the only religion atheists ever go after? They don't have shit to say about Islam or Judaism.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because Jesus is the greatest to do it.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Atheism is 1/4th white guilt, 1/4th 'frick you daddy" and 1/2 hedonism.

      When an atheist is confronted by islam they will start twerking like a b***h in heat to apologize to their melonin. Likewise, when a israelite is present they will suck their dick like a two dollar prostitute sucking down on candy. They're extremely predictable.

      The funnest thing to do when an atheist starts quoting atrocities or naughty things from the bible, simply ask since its the israeli part of the bible that they have such issues with if they ever brought it up to a israelite?

      You will watch their righteous indignation evaporate before your eyes and see them turn into sniveling little mumbling homosexuals refusing to answer the question and trying desperately to change the subject.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Dude, I just haven't seen anything to convince me your shit is real. I don't care about religion

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because the atheists going after Christianity are overwhelmingly Americans who grew in moronic evangelical households & communities. 99% of American atheists have never seen a mosque or perhaps even met a Muslim.
      Islam & Judaism are not really part of American culture, and they're only part of American politics when it comes to bombing brown countries or sending money to Israel. Vocal atheists are like anyone else, they want to be heard and related to, so if everyone around them is Christian, then of course they're going to be talking about Christianity.
      There's nothing productive about an atheist going around saying "wow Islam is fricking stupid" because the Christians around them already believe that.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >we want to be heard!
        We've heard you homosexual, you want to play with your penis. We know. You just dont like the fact that we keep telling you its wrong.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Atheists are the ones telling you it's wrong to saw off the top of your son's penis with a knife because someone hallucinated a vengeful deity telling them that 6000 years ago.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            but it's okay to castrate your children because globohomosexual scientists told you right?

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              No, and the atheist community online were literally the first ones calling out SJWs and trannies as insane. Meanwhile, Christian pastors wear rainbow robes and hop on TikTok to say Jesus was trans.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why are you lying? The only atheists who turned against globohomosexual liberalism was due to having the guns they aimed at conservative people all their lives finally turned on them, which they found dehumanizing.

                90% of atheists are all globohomosexual liberal bbc-fetishists then and now. They still think theres a socialist utopia just as long as they get rid of rednecks.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              those people rejects facts and science just like religion
              inb4 i love science moronism

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            > forgets christianity doesnt mandate circumcision while judaism and islam does.
            >will forget this in five minutes and repeat this again ad nauseum.
            >also will condone child genital mutiliation so they can be their "true gender" because of globohomosexual will bring about world utopia.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >forgets christianity doesnt mandate circumcision while judaism and islam does.
              Jesus said to be circumcised of the heart, he merely transitioned circumcision from a physical ritual to a spiritual one. The New Testament still exists and Christianity holds everything in it is true. So God still mandated sawing your son's dick topper off for 4,000 years.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The New Testament still exists and Christianity holds everything in it is true
                *The Old Testament still exists

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Christian gentiles are actually not required to be circumcised. In fact they are forbidden to because it represents rejecting the new Christ covenant for the old law covenant.

            The only ones required to be snipped are israelites and israeli slaves. Which is why ~~*they*~~ pushed for the scam.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      atheism is cryptojudaism, remember the forerunner to intersectional feminism was atheism+

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Christianity already disproves Islam and Judaism.
      Modern Judaism is not the same Judaism as the one that israelites were following back in Jesus' time. The Talmud wasn't even written until after Christ died and it was only written in response to the growing popularity of Christianity hence the passages about Jesus boiling in poo in Hell.
      Islam is basically a Christian cult offshoot. They still believe Jesus is the Messiah and He will return at the Second Coming but they believe in a bunch of weird stuff like Jesus magically faking his crucifixion which makes no sense theologically.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Islam and Judaism aren't in a constant state of being butthurt about evolution, or if they are they shut up about it.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ah yes because Muslims are just INFAMOUS for being quiet about things they disagree with lol

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        ok moron

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because ex-muslims tend to get killed you stupid moron kek

  17. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >if god doesn't exist then who created the universe?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      if i say we dont know where we come from or what it is or what anything is or what anything comes from but we are we exist
      and we call that witch is before all else God

      why do you disagree?
      yesterday is not evidence of tomorrow
      and yet we call yesterday the past
      and tomorrow the future

      theese ideas are monolithic unfalsifiable absurdities

  18. 10 months ago
    Anonymous
  19. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    what is all the theological discussion? quote is correct. its a null point

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      the theological position is that god himself has given us thousands of years of evidence while science has disproven its anttheological belifes hundreds of times in its short existance

      if we stretch to encompass humans inherent ability to seek god then god has given us evidence of his existence since our existance

      if you are not happy that hundreds of thousands of years of religion is considerd evidence of any sort then there is nothing to discuss

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >theism: You can't prove that he doesn't exist therefore he does!
        >atheism: let's study something and if our findings don't match up with what we can prove to be true then we should study it some more

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          let me translate your faux argument
          >theism "religion that has been inherent since our inception speaks to a universal truth"
          >Athiesm "we only belive things we can prove we are the masters of the universe there is nothing outside of our pervuew even though clearly we infact admit we quite litterly dont understand antything and contradict ourselfs constantly but the one thing we do know is that there definatly is no god!!!!"

          i added some of your flavour in the athiesm part

  20. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The fact that this image always causes a thread to hit bump limit is truly something else.
    Thank you for your service OP.

  21. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    God has been telling me I should rape the neighbor's daughter and then crucify her on the front lawn as a warning to all prostitutes. Being unable to disprove it really being God, I realize I must now obey. Thankyou.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      find any religion any tenent of any religion that agress that atributes itself to god and look for any similarities with your feelings you might just be mentally ill

      i know this is bait but its a faux argument "x told me to do x"
      ooorrr your deraigned
      it dosent even matter whats more likely the point being that is not the only possibility

  22. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The first clause of the first amendment of the bill of rights is written as follows
    >Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion
    The founding fathers could not have been clearer that the American government is secular.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah but then laws make no sense

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I have to use the threat of eternal suffering to curb my malicious desires

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          what's your logical explanation for why murder is wrong

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Because it harms the community.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              why is that wrong

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Because as a species we've evolved to support each other as it's the best way to ensure our own survival. Why do you need to be threatened with eternal suffering to be a normal decent human being?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why does that make it wrong? Can you prove that good and evil exist and why one is good and one is evil?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >why does a negative impact to survival equal wrong??

                killing people who negatively impact survival odds is also a net gain for the community.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why is a negative impact for survival wrong
                can you explain it? You're using circular reasoning

                why do we need to prove it to have a debate on the merits of your argument

                can i prove something is good for all humans
                i think i can even in idea land

                can i prove something is good for all things i can in idea land depending on how we define good

                if we agree that there is no good or evil can you replace the mechanisms ?? or does it leave a void?

                I do actually believe in good and evil I'm just pointing out that an atheist logically shouldn't
                it's a funny thought exercise watching you people squirm when you realize you have no proof according to your own beliefs that necrophilia, rape, and murder are wrong

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                survival = good is an axiom of the existence of all life. trying to "define" axioms leads to circular/faulty reasoning, just as trying to "define" the axioms of male and female leads to people thinking they can be women by cutting their dicks off.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah but the fact that you're refusing to define or explain something yet act on it regardless clearly means you know its inherently illogical
                Why is survival good?

                Many societies call slavery objectively morally wrong. Christianity instead prescribes a system to perpetuate slavery in the old Testament while Jesus commanded slaves to stay in their position and obey their master.
                Christianity argues that slavery, when practiced according to God's laws, is morally good, because God prescribed for it, and anything God does must be good. Other societies argue that slavery is objectively morally wrong.
                This conflict proves that morality is relative.

                >This conflict proves that morality is relative.
                lol an entirely illogical position, even Kant acknowledged this position was inherently moronic
                >this guy thinks 3+3=5
                >this guy thinks it's 6
                >"clearly it's relative"
                lmao

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >you're refusing to define or explain

                Or I'm talking about how, axioms, can't be defined by concepts that depend upon them as axioms. Another example, beyond the troony bit, is the "proof" for 2+2=4. a spiraling mess of self-referencing that everyone either gives up reading or trying to elaborate on.

                The "proof" for an axiom is the real world. If you don't survive, you're dead. If you're born male, you're a man. If you take two objects, and put another two objects near them, there will be four objects. etc etc.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >If you don't survive, you're dead. If you're born male, you're a man. If you take two objects, and put another two objects near them, there will be four objects.
                Yeah but this has no relevance to something being good or bad

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                survival = good. That is the axiomatic basis of all concepts related to "good vs evil."

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >survival = good
                Can you prove this though? Even 1+1=2 has a proof

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I’ve already talked about the “proof” for 1+1=2. Since you clearly didn’t understand, maybe you shouldn’t be trying to have a debate on the basis of good and evil.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Your argument was that "everybody gives up reading it" which is an appeal to popularity and not a valid argument
                Can you prove that survival is good? or not? Seems like you can't and you just got btfo'd for all time

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're not very bright are you?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Or adding to it. Because math itself depends on 2+2=4 as an axiom, therefore it can’t be defined by concepts that depend on it.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're not very bright are you?

                Thanks for admitting I'm right and you can't prove me wrong

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I accept your concession.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >can't prove me wrong
                >spergs out
                Me being right is an inherently undefinable axiom
                stay mad

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                You’re regurgitating an argument that was already defeated at

                >you're refusing to define or explain

                Or I'm talking about how, axioms, can't be defined by concepts that depend upon them as axioms. Another example, beyond the troony bit, is the "proof" for 2+2=4. a spiraling mess of self-referencing that everyone either gives up reading or trying to elaborate on.

                The "proof" for an axiom is the real world. If you don't survive, you're dead. If you're born male, you're a man. If you take two objects, and put another two objects near them, there will be four objects. etc etc.

                . No one is trolled.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                2+2=4 is an axiom of all math. Therefore using math to prove it doesn’t work.

                The proofs for axioms of abstracts in the real world.

                still seething I see
                I win for all time

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks for admitting you’re just trolling.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Y-you're just TROLLING
                seethe

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                It’s all good son, thanks for making me think about what the source axiom of “good and evil” is, and how it’s survival.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                yo i shld have done that 10 msges ago the other guy is legit trolling

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don’t really mind when people are just trolling. They usually force me down lines of thought that I wouldn’t otherwise go down.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                im 100% sure about 10 messages ago i made a poorly comunicated comment adressing theese issues look for your mispelld non grammerd reply

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm right... because I le just amm!!!!
                cope more

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                See

                I don’t really mind when people are just trolling. They usually force me down lines of thought that I wouldn’t otherwise go down.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                nta but 2+2 is not aximatic. the construction of natural numbers and the concept of addition has a lot of stuff as a formal mathematical proof. pro tip for the future if some moron is trying to play the "whoa how do we even know anything is real without assuming some things" card, just point out that assuming the bare minimum in order for your model of reality to work, with the caveat of reducing the number of assumptions as much as possible when new wisdom is gained, is not the same as believing everything whole cloth that some israeli pedophiles wrote down 2000 years ago.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                2+2=4 is an axiom of all math. Therefore using math to prove it doesn’t work.

                The proofs for axioms of abstracts in the real world.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >survival = good is an axiom of the existence of all life
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mantis#Sexual_cannibalism
                ?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >here, to prove that survival isn't always good, here's a behavior of a species that isn't extinct.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I interpreted your original post as personal survival, not survival of the species. Like, would it be wrong for someone to kill you for no reason? The species would be fine

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                it's about the propagation of genes. all life is a glitch that exists to replicate non-sentient chains of amino acids.

                Atheism is 1/4th white guilt, 1/4th 'frick you daddy" and 1/2 hedonism.

                When an atheist is confronted by islam they will start twerking like a b***h in heat to apologize to their melonin. Likewise, when a israelite is present they will suck their dick like a two dollar prostitute sucking down on candy. They're extremely predictable.

                The funnest thing to do when an atheist starts quoting atrocities or naughty things from the bible, simply ask since its the israeli part of the bible that they have such issues with if they ever brought it up to a israelite?

                You will watch their righteous indignation evaporate before your eyes and see them turn into sniveling little mumbling homosexuals refusing to answer the question and trying desperately to change the subject.

                frick israelites, frick Black folk, and especially frick you stupid christ cucks

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                See

                >why does a negative impact to survival equal wrong??

                killing people who negatively impact survival odds is also a net gain for the community.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Who negatively impacts survival odds? Who decides that? You seem like you negatively impact survival odds to me, would that make it OK for someone to kill you?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                A person who’s murdering people or shitting on food/water sources would be an example of a “negative impact to survival.”

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                see this anon is why your fricked up theres proof for those things on many levels in many systems acording to many mechanisms on both sides

                explain wearing linen though or some other absured shit that turned out to be profound understanding thousands of years after the fact

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >wearing linen though
                that bits about mixing types of cloths, one will shred the other.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                am just sayin there building houses on sand so we can play in the mud theres some wild shit in religous teaching that if you really think about it blows your fricking mind "How on earth could they know that ""they didnt its an insane coincedence but wow the benefit those people got from blindly following without understanding the larger picture"

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                why do we need to prove it to have a debate on the merits of your argument

                can i prove something is good for all humans
                i think i can even in idea land

                can i prove something is good for all things i can in idea land depending on how we define good

                if we agree that there is no good or evil can you replace the mechanisms ?? or does it leave a void?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I've answered two of your questions now, time to answer mine.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why?

                >good and evil exist
                They don't, at least not prescriptively. We often describe things as good or evil because of the good or bad consequences they bring, but that's all. The fact different societies often consider the same thing good evil, ritually holy or ritually unclean, goes along to prove that.

                They exist objectively and distinct from human existence
                that's a different conversation though
                All I'm saying is that if you don't believe in God then you logically shouldn't believe in wrong or right either
                that's why the other anon had a little spergout

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >good and evil exist
                They don't, at least not prescriptively. We often describe things as good or evil because of the good or bad consequences they bring, but that's all. The fact different societies often consider the same thing good evil, ritually holy or ritually unclean, goes along to prove that.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Many societies call slavery objectively morally wrong. Christianity instead prescribes a system to perpetuate slavery in the old Testament while Jesus commanded slaves to stay in their position and obey their master.
            Christianity argues that slavery, when practiced according to God's laws, is morally good, because God prescribed for it, and anything God does must be good. Other societies argue that slavery is objectively morally wrong.
            This conflict proves that morality is relative.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              https://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-slavery.html

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >https://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-slavery.html
                Holy cope
                >Slave ownership was a common practice long before the time the Mosaic Law was given. So, the law neither instituted slavery nor ended it; rather, the law regulated it.
                God is supposed to be an all powerful entity but he can't stop the israelites from not enslaving gentiles and each other because "everyone did it back then lol". God can do whatever he wants. The fact he did not outlaw slavery means God does not oppose slavery, simple as. Instead, he painstakingly set out rules to CODIFY how slavery would work. That means he did worse than a mere mortal like Thomas Jefferson, who at least wrote in the constitution that the triangle trade would end.
                Verses such as
                >“Masters, provide your slaves with what is right and fair, because you know that you also have a Master in heaven” (Colossians 4:1).
                again do not condemn or oppose slavery. In fact, it analogizes the relationship between Master and slave to that between God and man; thus, the system of slavery is portrayed as something godly. And as we know, the potter hath power over the clay.
                >Jesus and the apostles did not outright condemn slavery. They didn’t need to.
                The absolute peak of cope. Why did Jesus need to condemn anything else, then?
                Historically, abolitionists attempted with fervor to use the Bible to end slavery in places like America. It didn't work. Slave owners in the antebellum south reasonably read the Bible as codifying slavery and were unmoved by northerners' appeals to general mercy or holiness. After all, Jesus spoke to masters and simply told them to be good masters. So that's what those of the antebellum south tried to be.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                don't forget how God gives a holy command "thou shalt not kill"
                then next thing he does is order the israelites to commit literal genocide

                WHICH IS IT YOU BIPOLAR FRICK

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm an atheist anon but lemme qualify that for you. The commandment is typically translated as "thou shalt not murder." This seems like a trivial distinction but murder is understood as an 'unsanctioned' killing, one done outside the law of man (capital punishment, a defensive war) or the law of God (commanding genocide to take land, or the flood).
                Of course, it is pretty silly that killing is bad except when God says it's good. Especially since any of God's commanded killings could reasonably result from a spiritually bankrupt, evil society, such as dashing the heads of babies of the enemy on rocks. But that's religious thinking for you.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                when you look at that with logic "tho shall obey the laws of the land" i always got the inclination that somebody smart who knows what the frick is up might tell you to kill and thats ok HIII ARMY

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                not to mention God being all-powerful and still somehow needing his chosen people to commit mass murder and mass rape
                he even used his powers to break down the walls of the city so the israelites could go in and murder-rape, but didn't just poof all the people in the city elsewhere, which would have had the same end result: israelites have the city

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                What’s funny about this is how the reason every capital case lists “THE PEOPLE” as a plaintiff is to distribute the act of “murder” that is capital punishment.

  23. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    > a material cosmos can exist in and of itself

    atheists are morons.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >the universe can't exist in and of itself but god can because... because he just can, ok!?!?
      I think you're the moron here.

  24. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Christians will defend this

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      What's your problem with this verse? It talks about Jesus Ascending to Heaven which he did and the apostles documented. It's not talking about the apocalypse like atheist keep misreferencing.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >the apostles documented
        There is no line in the gospels referencing the apostles witnessing Jesus ascend to heaven. People just found his tomb was empty 3 days later. So no, it cannot reference Jesus ascending to heaven, because nobody there saw it.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Why you lying?

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascension_of_Jesus

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Luke 24:51
          At least know what you’re talking about before you start arguing

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >People just found his tomb was empty 3 days
          You're thinking of the resurrection.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      think outside the box ever watch joe rogan

      it does not even say die

      imagine this kino *if it was a film scene* scenario

      man is injured fatally &his heart stops but he lives after& dmt floods his brain he sees the son in all his glory he dances on clouds he swims in the starrs he gains an ident memory becomes a mathmatical sevant then wakes up alive he has been in a coma

      before we die our brain floods with dmt thats a fact

  25. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    can you explain it or what

  26. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    God exists, but he is just the universe itself

  27. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    just a reminder that if you need god to know that killing an innocent person is a bad thing, you are low iq and religion is to keep people like you in check. meanwhile let the upper classes have some fun

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      when i was younger religon stopped me beating the living frick out of tens of people kek

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        You mean it stopped your little, homosexual ass from picking a fight and getting your teeth smashed in?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I can exercise Christian morality without Jesus and God

      The cultural and moral decline of formerly Christian western nations proves, this is incorrect.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >How can murder be wrong unless there's a strong guy in the clouds who says he thinks it's wrong
      Why did every other society in history also come to the conclusion that unsanctioned killing is wrong? It's almost like the community discouraging and penalizing murderers and other disruptive crimes is necessary to the formation of a lasting society.

      >'I dont need no sky daddy to tell me murder is wrong'
      All the Abortion clinics would tell me otherwise.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >killing Black folk before they're born is wrong

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          So you don't believe murder is wrong then?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            see

            >why does a negative impact to survival equal wrong??

            killing people who negatively impact survival odds is also a net gain for the community.

  28. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >How can murder be wrong unless there's a strong guy in the clouds who says he thinks it's wrong
    Why did every other society in history also come to the conclusion that unsanctioned killing is wrong? It's almost like the community discouraging and penalizing murderers and other disruptive crimes is necessary to the formation of a lasting society.

  29. 10 months ago
    Anonymous
  30. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    You can't disprove the existence of other gods like Zeus or Odin either by that logic

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Allah or even that elephant headed b***h

  31. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >rationalism
    >empiricism
    >objectivity
    >falsifiability
    no argument for the existence of god appeals to any of these things, and in every case has to outright reject one or more of them. the only argument for god is
    >muh feelings
    which is garbage. you're a collection of cells, cope. souls aren't real

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      bro the same is said for science and your acting like that list you listed is complete

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        moron. science is not inherently dogmatic, it is a set of principles for investigating the natural world. falsifiability and evidence are the core fricking tenants you clown.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          science is not inherently dogmatic
          >ignores reality/10
          lmao lol even

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >there are stupid people who "LOVE SCIENCE" even though their beliefs are objectively unscientific in nature
            >therefore science is the same as religion!
            room temperature IQ, i can not even imagine how tired everyone in your life is of talking to you

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              you agreed with me and pretended it was a joke
              then you made up something i didnt say and then had the audacity to read into a synopsis of your own estranged opinion and ascribe it to me asif you think people reading this are iddiots

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >iddiots
                you know what man i think you really need god to be real, so yeah have at it.

                >knows the universe is finite
                >knows that the universe had an origin point
                >knows that the universe is curved
                >knows theres something beyond this universe.
                >know you cannot measure or test anything ANYTHING outside of space and time because its ludicrous.
                > this religion over 2 thousand years old said god is beyond space and time, outside the universe.
                >"nope nope nope, gotta prove it using these methods I ordained which is contradictory to your claims."
                >continues to watch porn.

                I would respect atheists so much more if they dropped all the bullshit, all the pretense, all the pseudo-intellectual jibberish and just admit
                >I dont want to believe in god because I like jerking off while eating pizza.
                I'd respect you guys so much more.

                what fricking schizo shit are you talking about? no one said any of those things (and you're wrong on almost every single one kek, including the religious statements). you seem to be an expert in making shit up, so i can see why religion is innately appealing to you.

                2+2=4 is an axiom of all math. Therefore using math to prove it doesn’t work.

                The proofs for axioms of abstracts in the real world.

                man you can just google a formal proof of addition. i know this is a pearls before swine type situation but just shut up and learn something homosexual

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                So thanks for admitting you didn’t understand how the “proof” is incomplete.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                i mean i get your points and they were on the money but the gaslighting pivot is vomit inducing however well you preformed it and i know you know what i did i made the audience aware of how sick you are albeit well played i go home with the girl

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >you're wrong on almost every single one
                Um....these are actually proven scientific facts about the universe bud.
                Youre obviously ill read and a sufferer of dunning kruger.
                >so i can see why religion is innately appealing to you.
                Cute. Do you have any actual to say other than vomit?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                nope.
                >universe is finite
                space is expanding, maybe forever (not finite). we also do not know the precise size of the universe because we are restricted to observing what is in our light cone (possibly infinite).
                >knows the universe had an origin point
                wrong! we know that there was a big bang, when it was, and the conditions of the universe right after, but not before. our universe could be part of a cycle of big bangs, part of the multiverse, or any such number of theories that are impossible to collect any experimental data on at all.
                >knows there's something beyond this universe
                moron, lmao
                >know you cannot measure or test anything outside of space and time
                this is like saying you can't have negative apples in a bushel, it's patently moronic thinking.
                >the bible says god exists outside of space and time and the universe
                it doesn't stupid

                wow you're so smart! tell me more!

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >space is expanding
                Which means its finite. If I blow a balloon, is the balloon limitless or not?
                >maybe forever
                There is no such thing as 'forever' in the tangible world anon.
                >wrong! we know that there was a big bang, when it was, and the conditions of the universe right after, but not before.
                Which is the definitions of an origin and an origin point.
                >our universe could be part of a cycle of big bangs, part of the multiverse, or any such number of theories that are impossible to collect any experimental data on at all.
                Those are hypothetical copes for the discovery of the big bang. There is little, if any to prove M theory at all. Its worse than believing in god because now you're going into infinite regresses.
                >moron, lmao
                If the universe does crunch in infinite loops like you believe, whats outside the universe at that time? Im not gonna go into the details of the evidence but, suffice it to say, you're moronic.
                >this is like saying you can't have negative apples in a bushel, it's patently moronic thinking.
                God you're fricking moronic. Like I suspect legit down syndrome or something.
                >it doesn't stupid
                It states this multiple times my man.

                Maybe you could read a book for once rather than listening to big think or the amazing atheist on youtube.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >no you!
                everything i posted is backed up by objective evidence. independently verified observations of our universe. i can produce sources effortlessly for everything i said, can you? i'll make it simple for you and reduce it down to a single one of your moronic claims.
                >knows theres something beyond this universe.
                so, science -knows- there's something beyond this universe? got a single fact to back that up? if it's settled science it should be trivial to explain, so i'm waiting dipshit.

                the thing I find annoying about atheism today is people think that because they don't believe in God that that somehow makes the shit they believe in more rational. people go on about morals being subjective, then start reeing when other cultures do shit they don't like.

                yes, people are dumb. some dumb people repeat smart ideas though. this has nothing to do with objective reality, it exists independent of everyone being dumb or everyone being smart.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                How can you read something, not understand a single word they said and still reply with such conviction and indignity?

                Anon, juat calm down your autism. You're lowering the I.Q of everyone else on the board.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >no you!
                everything i posted is backed up by objective evidence. independently verified observations of our universe. i can produce sources effortlessly for everything i said, can you? i'll make it simple for you and reduce it down to a single one of your moronic claims.
                >knows theres something beyond this universe.
                so, science -knows- there's something beyond this universe? got a single fact to back that up? if it's settled science it should be trivial to explain, so i'm waiting dipshit.
                [...]
                yes, people are dumb. some dumb people repeat smart ideas though. this has nothing to do with objective reality, it exists independent of everyone being dumb or everyone being smart.

                that's what i fricking thought.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              There are legit scientists who perpetuate and wnforce scientism on a regular basis. There have been multiple upon multiple cases of scientist fudging the results of experiments to get the results they wanted and ones who have laundered money from the government for faux studies and never got any jail time. These people are allowed to do this due to scientism and plebs believing and thinking scientists arw a form of wizard-priests.

              I could even go into the fact that multiple disciplines of science, such as medical science, have had a sharp and steady decline due to seperation from the church ans when talk about the rise in secular science they are specifically talking about technology (which shouldn't honestly be classified as a science honestly) but I digress.

              Scientism is really bad because not only does it perpetuate science as a religion, it dogmatises and strangles science from studying taboo subjects.

              Its infinitely worse than any christian example you could bring up.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >people are fallible and not perfect therefore our only recourse is to abandon reason and worship christ
                you're a brainlet man, simple as. your cope about "medical science being on decline" is so hilarious moronic i can't believe you posted it with a straight face. the only bad thing about scientific progress is that we all get to share in its benefits so morons like you will live longer and have massive boost to your moronic views.

                i mean i get your points and they were on the money but the gaslighting pivot is vomit inducing however well you preformed it and i know you know what i did i made the audience aware of how sick you are albeit well played i go home with the girl

                holy cope man. if you're at this level of psychic damage it's time to just close the tab instead of typing out whatever the frick that sad post was. jesus christ save us!

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                <3 love you two bro im kinda having fun i accept your reluctant rethinking i make it easy to see who i am so you dont have to guess jej

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >"medical science being on decline"
                To be fair, anyone looking at transgenderism and can’t see that as anything but a decline. But that is really just a mix of “psychology” and cosmetic surgery. “Psychology” has tons of stupid Shit in its history.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                psychology was a mistake. what did that ever fix?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Well, for a while we were putting criminals in asylums and isolating/sterilizing them instead of just letting them make more criminals.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                christ cucks will malign the dogmatic practices of certain scientists and pseudo scientific practices because they emulate the strict hierarchies of religious practice too much, which is... only bad when other people do it. it's a good system though! heaven!

                God man, are you 12 or something? You have said nothing of merit, not refuted anything anyone has said and simply acted like a slack jawed homosexual thinking you don't have the mind of some bat-beaten moron just popped out of the birth canal.

                I hope this is bait fishing fpr (you)s because I can't imagine anyone legit being unironic spewing the gadfly infested trash coming out of your mouth.

                I'm gonna pray for you to actually stop being a homosexual homey. You need it.

                >i read about le science man doing a bad israeli psyop! science is evil and religion is based!
                like what do you want me to refute? playing around with you at all is a level of discourse that you don't deserve and don't have the ability to properly receive, and you want to have a serious discussion? okay, let's go there dipshit, tell me where's your evidence that god exists that isn't in your feefees?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Well yeah, when non-skydaddygays are dogmatic it means they’re following THE GREAT ENEMY

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                yes thanks the lord i was born in this particular tribe out of literal tens of thousands throughout human history that has selected the one true religion and i can reject all objections outright because i feel it in my heart. it would really suck if i was born anything else and just went to hell.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >okay, let's go there dipshit, tell me where's your evidence that god exists that isn't in your feefees?
                Heres where you go full Black person.

                This argument is called an empirical spiral. Its a techique atheists use to control the argument and be on the offensive. You will not clarify or classify what form of evidence is appropriate so you can dismiss it offhandedly throughout the discussion.

                Whats interesting is that, when atheists don't notice that christians are listening, freely admit their methodology is complete shit and simply made so that all proofs of god can be dismissed, which is why they latched so hard onto empirical evidence because its impossible to prove something supernatural with something made to prove the natural.

                I'll grab you this empirical proof of god once you find me a wild number 3. Not a picture of a 3, or 3 sticks, but an actual 3.

                >b'b'but number are made up things!!

                Then all of mathematics, the sole unfallible and constant science, completely falls apart. If the number 3 isn't real then everything falls apart.

                I know you'll start saying numbers are bullshit to save face, its what you scientism homosexuals always do and you never realize how damning that practice is.

                If you can't find me a number 3, something so integral and important to science and our global society and that we know it real, then I will not play this game with you.

                So go ahead and take a pic of a wild number 3 anon. I'll be waiting.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                We can find 3 homosexuals in this thread.
                You can't find any amount of god.
                God isn't even a good tool to predict things, like math is. Prayer has no verifiable influence on outcomes.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                So you're admitting you're a moronic homosexual then? Good!

                Go suck on your mommas tittie for some milkies. Its about your bedtime.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I prayed you would take the bait and out yourself as irrational and short-tempered.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous
              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >post your evidence god exists
                >i don't have to because 3, homosexual
                compelling stuff, i bet you win a lot of arguments in the trailer park.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Either you have no reading comprehension skills or you are deliberately obtuse.

                Waiting for that number 3.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                math literally isn't real you moron. it's an abstract science where you use pure reason to solve problems abstracted from nature. how much of a fricking brainlet do you have to be to think you're making any sort of point here?

                there is no number 3 moron, just like there's no god, it's MADE UP kek you absolute fricking mong. it's like
                >prove my dreams aren't real
                >checkmate atheist
                like what the frick is wrong with you

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Once again, mathematic truths are not only onjective truths, they are the most reliable truths in the scientific field.

                This "made-up thing" is one of the backbones of modern civilization and has built NASA, the hadron collider and the fricking phone you're using to shitpost.

                Just admit you are an atheist simply to be a hedonist. Thats all anyone wants. You homosexuals are willing to destroy anything and everything just so you wont feel bad.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                math is a language, it's used to describe problems and solve them. pure math can't prove anything because it can't make observations, only predictions. literally all notation in math is essentially arbitrary as well. any system that is consistent and rational and that can solve abstract problems using pure reason would suffice as a system. stop trying to apply a dogmatic importance to an arbitrary system of runes that represent things in the real world only sometimes.

                Sir isaac newton
                Leonhard Eular
                John Lennox
                Blaise Pascal
                Johannes kepler
                Ada Lovelace
                Alan Turing

                I can go on anon.
                The problem is that you are thinking completely materialistic and only materialistic.
                [...]
                Yes because math is, has and always has been useless now right?

                I sweat you gays would set your mother on fire just so you wouldn't have to admit you're wrong.

                math is super useful for describing things precisely, that's why people use it to... describe things precisely. it's really nothing more than that you dumb fricker. it also has nothing to do with god, an entity you aren't even arguing for anymore because you don't even have an argument

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                math literally isn't real you moron. it's an abstract science where you use pure reason to solve problems abstracted from nature. how much of a fricking brainlet do you have to be to think you're making any sort of point here?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                > it's an abstract science where you use pure reason to solve problems abstracted from nature.
                All mathematicians would tell you otherwise, as well as any science using mathematics would fall apart.

                You will literally destroy science just so you can keep playing with your penis guilt-free.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >gets the textbook definition of math
                >but but my made up "real" mathematicians disagree!
                the issue here is you don't know the difference between reality and thought.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >All mathematicians would tell you otherwise

                Name one

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sir isaac newton
                Leonhard Eular
                John Lennox
                Blaise Pascal
                Johannes kepler
                Ada Lovelace
                Alan Turing

                I can go on anon.
                The problem is that you are thinking completely materialistic and only materialistic.

                >science will fall apart if you don't believe in math!
                holy kek anon this is what christ cuckery does to a motherfricker huh

                Yes because math is, has and always has been useless now right?

                I sweat you gays would set your mother on fire just so you wouldn't have to admit you're wrong.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >science will fall apart if you don't believe in math!
                holy kek anon this is what christ cuckery does to a motherfricker huh

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                God man, are you 12 or something? You have said nothing of merit, not refuted anything anyone has said and simply acted like a slack jawed homosexual thinking you don't have the mind of some bat-beaten moron just popped out of the birth canal.

                I hope this is bait fishing fpr (you)s because I can't imagine anyone legit being unironic spewing the gadfly infested trash coming out of your mouth.

                I'm gonna pray for you to actually stop being a homosexual homey. You need it.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                there are a bunch of scientists that do not realize the is-ought gap and they are a problem.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >knows the universe is finite
      >knows that the universe had an origin point
      >knows that the universe is curved
      >knows theres something beyond this universe.
      >know you cannot measure or test anything ANYTHING outside of space and time because its ludicrous.
      > this religion over 2 thousand years old said god is beyond space and time, outside the universe.
      >"nope nope nope, gotta prove it using these methods I ordained which is contradictory to your claims."
      >continues to watch porn.

      I would respect atheists so much more if they dropped all the bullshit, all the pretense, all the pseudo-intellectual jibberish and just admit
      >I dont want to believe in god because I like jerking off while eating pizza.
      I'd respect you guys so much more.

  32. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Life is a genetic accident. Sentience is an accident. The source of life is the primordial soup. Fish are our ancestors. You are your brain. Materialism is real.

  33. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    If God is the source of morality, then morality is absurd.
    The ultimate, infinite system of reward and punishment in Christianity has absolutely nothing to do with observing moral rules. When you're born, God has already marked your soul to be tortured in a realm called Hell for eternity because of 'original sin'. Some Christians don't believe in original sin; still, they do believe that the very moment a child commits any act of wrongdoing, God marks them for Hell. Which includes believing in another god, thus breaking the first commandment, such as if you were born on the opposite side of the world from Jerusalem and get taught a different creation myth.
    From that point on, it doesn't matter if you commit a hundred murders or never hurt a soul in your life. The only way to not be sent to Hell by God is to believe in God.

  34. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >"christian" chantards

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      You don't understand dude, I need to spread my faith on the pedophile board of the anime porn website. Where else would my christtard moralgayging belong?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Jesus preached to prostitutes and tax collectors. Why would someone spread the word to people who already know it?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Did jesus frick those prostitutes and call those tax collectors Black folk in his off time?
          Because maybe then the jerking off and seething at anonymous posters would equate.

  35. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    i feel I can believe in the idea of some uncaring external mechanism outside our universe that made everything. but this idea that there's God that loves everyone, gives a shit about humans, that's just nonsense tbh

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      whats the difference between that and a careing mechanism have you ever tried to be more healthy i dno what the frick my gut biome is but i eat natural yoghurt to help it all the frickkking time!

  36. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The default position to any claim is agnosticism, but it is worth noting that there are very few explicitly atheist explanations of the universe or arguments for atheism that arent just a response to theism

  37. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Atheists are annoying in that they make their anti-religion psychosis the core of their personality and become just as fricking annoying as evangelicals and mormons about it, they feel the need to insert it everywhere.
    Why can't you just be a fricking agnostic and realize there is no way to either prove or disprove god's existence so arguing about it is a waste of time?
    People who actively abandon religion in order to "rebel" against it just go and find another religion like trannoids or Black folk.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      similarly
      why can't all religious people just realize that there's nothing inherent about their religion that places it above all other religions
      they should also just become agnostic

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Didn't say otherwise, annoyingly religious people are dipshits, but atheists like to pretend they're above it all while acting like jehova's witnesses.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          generally speaking, atheists don't kill people because they're religious, so morally at least they've got one up over religious people

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            You tell that to the trannoid who killed 6 in Nashville.
            BTW, people have a higher chance of being killed by lightning than by a religious nut, unless said religious nut is a muslim, which I'm sure is not exactly what you'd like to hear.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              or Buddhist, religiously themed mass murders pretty common among Buddhists
              same with Hindu

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                your talking about india not a religion

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Hindu Indians kill and rape Muslim Indians daily

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                The meaningful factor there is India. Not religions.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Buddhists are pulling their crap in Myanmar

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Myanmar is a colony of India

  38. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    why do theists get so emotional over this, it's ok to be irrational if it makes you feel good and doesn't hurt others, nobody judges you for being religious

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      0/10 its a shit quote this is like a poormans schizo thread the bait is weak but film religion and the human condition are high key kino

      schizo shit is next level fun however this is a poor mans schizo thread facilitated by some nobody but the thread is sound

  39. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    the thing I find annoying about atheism today is people think that because they don't believe in God that that somehow makes the shit they believe in more rational. people go on about morals being subjective, then start reeing when other cultures do shit they don't like.

  40. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >there are infinite universes
    >therefore there is one with God
    >God is omnipotent
    >therefore God exists in all universes
    >b-buh
    >OMNIPOTENCE
    Sorry atheist losers, you've been SCIENCED.

  41. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I don't believe in God. Can you understand that? Look around you man. Cant you see? The clamor and din of those in torment has to be the sound most pleasing to his ear. And I loathe these discussions. The argument of the village atheist whose single passion is to revile endlessly that which he denies the existence of in the first place. Your fellowship is a fellowship of pain and nothing more. And if that pain were actually collective instead of simply reiterative then the sheer weight of it would drag the world from the walls of the universe and send it crashing and burning through whatever night it might yet be capable of engendering until it was not even ash. And justice? Brotherhood? Eternal life? Good god, man. Show me a religion that prepares one for death. For nothingness. There's a church I might enter. Yours prepares one only for more life. For dreams and illusions and lies. If you could banish the fear of death from men's hearts they wouldnt live a day. Who would want this nightmare if not for fear of the next? The shadow of the axe hangs over every joy. Every road ends in death. Or worse. Every friendship. Every love. Torment, betrayal, loss, suffering, pain, age, indignity, and hideous lingering illness. All with a single conclusion. For you and for every one and everything that you have chosen to care for. There's the true brotherhood. The true fellowship. And everyone is a member for life. You tell me that my brother is my salvation? My salvation? Well then damn him. Damn him in every shape and form and guise. Do I see myself in him? Yes. I do. And what I see sickens me. Do you understand me? Can you understand me?

  42. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    None of these are movie quotes
    My favorite movie quote is “there are two kinds of people in this world my friend” from the good the bad and the ugly

  43. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Haha, no one can disprove this abstraction doesn't exist

  44. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Discussing your religion or lack thereof is cringe as frick
    The sun will come out tomorrow

  45. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    science mfs soifacing when they theorize the universe is a simulation by aliens, but at the same time it's just not possible a God could exist.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's called a hypothetical, like if God existed. You can entertain an idea without believing it.

  46. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    so in summary the most powerful arguments for the existence of god so far are
    >the number 3 doesn't physically exist either
    and
    >science has proven that there are things outside our universe (not true btw), therefore they are god as this was foretold of in the bible (it wasn't)
    very nice job, i'll be going down to my local israelitery to convert tomorrow

  47. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >get BTFO in two threads
    >call janny to delete them
    >make this one to cope
    lmfao

  48. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    christ cucks your response? haha

  49. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    This fricking kino line from Spy Kids 2

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I forgot about that line. Gave me a good chuckle.

  50. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Your feeble skills are no match for the power of the dark side

  51. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Power! Unlimited power!

  52. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    They fear you. In time, they will destroy you

  53. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    You will rule all the galaxy as the new emperor

  54. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    You’re one man against a galaxy full of scoundrels

  55. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Vader! I am your master!

  56. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Only through me can you achieve a power greater than any Jedi

  57. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    You’re a chud, CHUD I tell you. LOL you chud, chuuud. How do you feel about that CHUD. CHUd CHUd chudereeno. Now your really triggered aren’t you ChUd. Guess what? You are a CHUD. Over at discord we all sat around and decided you are all CHUDs and guess what, turns out you are CHUDs. My good pall Lex even draws the CHUDJAX that really trigger you CHUDs so badly. Xe knows how bad the CHud Jax trigger you LOL that’s why xe keeps drawing more chuds. Really gets your little CHUD brain CHUDDING doesn’t it. The left can meme CHUD boyz, the CHUD meme proves it that the left memes harder and better than any CHUD ever could! Don’t you feel dumb/pitiful/bad/stupid/chuddy/arrogant now chud?!? You fascist CHUDS think that your literally hunderands of thousands of “topical/Witty memes” were soooo funny, fricking chuds.

  58. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    You stupid CHUDS couldn’t understand our early Epic Memes (circa 2016), because your tiny Virgin CHUD brains couldn’t handle “walls of text”. So we got together and had intellectual discussions on how to destroy you CHUDS (you weren’t yet called CHUDby us but you still were CHUDS). We then tried to depict the trans community in a series of CHUD take down comix displaying trans women in a positive light destroying CHUdS with FAX& LOGIX. But you stupid CHADS can’t understand the elegance of the trans community. Stupid chuds. So we met again this time we knew we needed to dumb down our memes to YOUR DUMB CHUD level so that even you STUPID CHUDs Could understand. 1 fricking word.

  59. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Something so potent it would DESTROY YOU CHUDS FOREVER. C-H-U-D. That’s CHUD fricking right. We deployed the CHUd Device And 4CHUD has been decimated. We know we destroyed Cinemaphile with this meme because it’s a fact that you are triggered CHUD. And if you say you aren’t triggered or a chud that just proves how triggered/CHUDy you are. Hahaha CCHHUUDD!

  60. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >No one can disprove that God exists
    If something doesn't exist, there is no proof of its existence, so you cannot "disprove its existence". If there is no proof of something existing, it is safe to assume it does not exist until new proof surfaces. Otherwise we would have to consider made up things as "potentially real"
    >I discovered a new species! The long-nosed Porcupine!
    >Great! where are your findings and proof?
    >I don't have any
    >So you didn't discover a new species...
    >Well, you didn't disprove it exists, so it MAY exist, and I was the first to claim that it does!

  61. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >comfy movie quotes thread
    >homosexuals start arguing about existence of god

    PLEASE shut the frick up let's get back on topic everyone

    >pic related, cute quote from A Boy Named Charlie Brown

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is literally the designated religious debate thread

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