What kind of mindless moron would actually argue that slow zombies are better/scarier?
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What kind of mindless retard would actually argue that slow zombies are better/scarier?
What kind of mindless moron would actually argue that slow zombies are better/scarier?
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You know you sound like a complete meathead.
Zombies are gay either way
Slow zombies are like an act of nature. Like a tornado or flood coming for you.
Fast zombies are for ADHD spergs.
No matter what, a raider with a gun is scarier than any zombie.
Tornado/floods are insanely fast moron
>tornado
>slow
People are literally able to outrun tornados and floods ON FOOT. Ever heard of evacuations?
Every post agreeing with yours is just (You) samegayging. Pathetic.
yeah when given enough warning. Not when it's literally outside their door step you utter fricking moron
>People are literally able to outrun tornados and floods ON FOOT
based moron
>muh act of nature horror!
>Slow zombies are like an act of nature. Like a tornado or flood coming for you.
Post the webm
>my angels? biblically accurate
>my zombies? slow like an act of nature
This really is the lowest IQ board on Cinemaphile
wrong. nobody on /b/ would have batted an eye at that anon's post
That's because they'd be too busy asking for pictures of zombie wieners.
>No matter what, a raider with a gun is scarier than any zombie.
>The humans are the real monsters and enemies in a zombie apocalypse
Fricking hate that overdone trope.
It is normal for Mad Max type of movies, without any zombies or other stuff like that. But when you make a zombie movie/tv show/game and zombies are nothing more than a set dressing at best you need to ask yourself why did you even bothered with them in the first place.
>you need to ask yourself why did you even bothered with them in the first place.
It represents the destruction of society and the survivors are banding together to make a new one. Of course they fight each other because the winning group gets to decide the new world order. It's a bit of a power fantasy
>It represents the destruction of society and the survivors are banding together to make a new one. Of course they fight each other because the winning group gets to decide the new world order. It's a bit of a power fantasy
Ok, but literally everything you just wrote can be done without zombies, so why bother?
how is that weapon more effective than something as simple as a spear. Why does it have to be used like that
Those are guys a a clearing party. They funnel walkers to their location then stand there and kill them like that all day long. Forcefully stabbing that many walkers everyday would drain you faster than using a power tool
that isn't a power tool
BTFO
Yeah tornados are usually associated with slow, gradual movement
no I think the thing that never sleeps or stops wanting to kill you is the real monster.
no zombie ever raised my rent
no zombie ever gave me a write up for being late
no zombie ever instituted taxes
love the seething replies, good job anon
avoid the reddit spacing next time tho
>Like a tornado or flood coming for you
>tornado
>flood
>slow
what the frick
Fast zombie movies usually have terrible cinematography and choreography.
There are different types of fear, you spastic, and it's perfectly understandable that some people may find the type of fear elicited by a slow, creeping threat to be less tolerable and more terrifying than the fear elicited by a fast, aggressive threat. Well, unless you're a moron, and then you may not understand it.
Slow zombies represent death: slow but unstoppable. You can run but never escape. So it’s a certain horror trope. Fast zombies represents the pack predator. They hunt you and all you can do is frantically run.
You anons don’t have to fight over everything. 2 opposites can exist at the same time. Scary how this is on every board a thing
just bunker down for a week or two and wait for military and or those survivalists with 20k+ ammo reserves to kill them slow ass homies and hope they don't turn into rape raiders
This argument has always sounded like pseudo intellectual shit. You can absolutely avoid slow zombies if you're not moronic. The "they'll catch you eventually" shit has never made a lick of sense
Yeah especially since a well organised group of survivors could kill them faster than they "repdocuce". Even if we ignore the massive handwaving why a slow zombie outbreak could lead to an apocalypse in the first place, I think a group of like 10 or so survivors could probably start killing slow Zs on an industrial scale within a year or so if they aren't completely moronic.
Most people would struggle to survive in such an anarchy and breakdown of society even without zombies, let alone with them. And that's often the focus of the interest, the raiders and human conflict and not the zombies. Regardless, maybe you'd be okay if you were in a rural area, but if you're trapped in a city with massive hordes of zombies everywhere then you could easily get trapped.
Nope. I'd easily just kill all the slow moving zombies, and if I was on the 9/11 plane, I would've karate chopped the terrorists. Everything else is a hoax. If a ghost came into the room I'm in right now, I'd just be like - so what?
just walk on elevated ground through the city, even standing on top of a large SUV would keep you safe while you can stab them in the head with a lance
plus a large city has an almost infinite supply of just shit lying around for a small group of survivors. the canned goods from a single wall mart alone would feed a group of 20 for a year at least
you're way more fricked in the rural area if you cant get some resemblance of a village and food production going. plus all the refugees will ruin the rural areas anyways. I'd rather deal with tens of thousands of slow zombies (that freeze in winter) than thousands of hungry people, they're much more dangerous
Yeah they addressed this in Dawn of the Dead. Rural communities were thriving and having the time of their lives. The protagonists handedly defeated the zombies without much trouble (minus Roger but had lost it and was being reckless). It was only when the bikers/raiders turned up that things went to shit
I think it'd mostly come down to if/how much of cities get evacuated. If huge mobs of people escape and run off into the rural areas I think everywhere ends up fricked except for the most remote locations, because that's just more mouths to feed, more conflicts, more potential undead along with luring more undead out of the cities.
The military would’ve taken care of them pretty quick.
It's thematic. You zoomers can't grasp themes and subtext. You just literalise everything because your parents let you eat drugs for breakfast so you don't have anxiety tantrums.
It has never once been thematic, zombie movies aren't that deep, frick off
t.zoomer Black person moron
Concession accepted.
Zombie movies are literally a commentary on society and the human condition, why the hell do you think they've endured so long
You thought they were just schlocky jump scare horror movies because you're a one-dimensional moron
There was a movie, can't remember the name, with exactly ONE zombie in it slowly following mc in the desert or something, and unlike the human it follows, the zombie didn't get tired or needed to sleep.
>see this happening
>dig pit
>.....
The zombie isn't coming next tuesday, he is already right there.
Anyone know what movie this anon is talking about? I am intrigued.
same
I googled this and it came up with It Stains the Sands Red
Reminds me of that short series in which a guy gets cursed and is permanently chased by a demon that only strikes him with a metal spoon, forever.
Is it good? Sounds like a hard premise to make well.
SLOW BURN BONE CHILLING A24 HORROR FEATURING SLOW ZOMBIES REPRESENTING ENTROPY
>SLOW BURN BONE CHILLING A24 HORROR
Is it still frowned upon to like Hereditary here?
I think it was very good.
It's the best horror we've had in decades.
But Cinemaphile needs to be contrarian.
Hereditary was scary as hell. When the dude floats up into the tree house it really struck a nerve. That movie did a good job of tapping into archetypal fear. As a kid I was afraid of cults and unseen organizations tracking and manipulating people
Hereditary has some effective imagery but what really elevates it is Colin Stetson's score
For sure. I hate the overwrought horror movie scores that telegraph what's going to happen by irritating you instead of giving you a feeling of unease. It really ruins the tension if the score tells you that the scare is going to come in about 15 seconds
Hereditary is good. Cinemaphile is just a low IQ board influenced by YouTube criticism (i.e. explaining why something is bad means you're smart...even if you can't actually explain it and just assert it).
The last 20 mins of Hereditary made me laugh like a moron
Whenever my Brother and I see someone nodding, we both start imitating that head banging scene.
You know A24 did make a zombie movie without zombies. It's about growing paranoia between two families post-apocalypse. Good movie and least woke of modern zombie stuff. But I know that zoom zooms here like to pretend that A24 is the worst production company, while in reality Disney and Netflix exists.
>Good movie and least woke of modern zombie stuff.
I seriously hope youre not refering to that complete dog shit "it comes at night" or whatever the frick. Not only is there pointless cuck shit in that, it's also incredibly boring and pointless too.
Yea, it's It Comes At Night. I don't remember any "cuck shit" in it. Are you confusing the movie with X. Some of gays got a weird obsession seeing cuck shit everywhere.
And yes I'm aware that the movie was dissappointment to those who expected creature feature. It's basically just a psychological thriller set post apocalypse. There was a plot, but I can understand it's blandness for Marvel fans. No quips, no cgi fights, no female empowerment.
Name?
slow zombies are better because you can clearly raise and lower the stakes for the viewer.
a single slow zombie in the distance is a reminder. a single fast zombie in the distance is an immediate danger.
a horde of slow zombies is a giant crushing force and sometimes game over for that location because it takes them just as long to filter out. a horde of fast zombies is big attack, but they're more likely to get split up and quicker to depart
>slow zombies are better because you can clearly raise and lower the stakes for the viewer.
But they can lead to bullshit deathscenes where a seasoned survivor of the zombie apocalypse gets killed by a random slow ass zombie even though he should have heard or seen the threat in advance.
TWD had like 3 of those BS scenes before I dropped the show, was around S4 or I think.
We need a movie that mixes slow and fast for this very reason. I don't care how they make it make sense in universe, just make it work damn it!
It makes a lot of sense for zombies to have varying speeds actually, more than them all just being either slow or fast. Human bodies are incredibly varied in the first place and the amount of rot and decay would vary per zombie
TWD did it already. They also mixed in smart ones
As long as you don't do video game zombie types, varied zombies are kino. What makes regular zombies a bit less scary in the long run is that you learn the rules eventually and know EXACTLY how to deal with them, it's much scarier if you can never be 100% sure what every individual zombie is going to do.
They don't always know how to deal with them because they deal with most large encounters when they are on some sort of mission and then they have to switch gears to deal with the problem. In the case of the smart ones they know how to herd the dumb ones to follow them.
There was a scientist character that I found interesting however. He made a coat out fo walker skin and it acted as a cloak of visibility without having to smear blood all over yourself. Kind of like the Whisperers' masks.
It's not for comedy really. That's the first time the main group ever encountered a smart walker, so the camera focuses a lot on their reactions. Jerry is a comedic character though which makes the wtf moment a bit funny I guess. The more comedic moment I think was when Negan sees one for the first time.
why does this feel like the intention of the scene was to be weirdly comedic
That's the last few seasons of TWD, just a kind of silly parody of itself with many comic relief characters..
That was fricking awful.
>AHHHHHH THIS ROTTING CORPSE IS OVERPOWERING ME AIIIIIIEEEE
>also begins fight by smashing it in the mouth hugely increasing the chance of an infection
Did they even do anything with these variants?
The were a threat to the town they took over near the end because they were scaling the walls/fence. I assume they are also in the Daryl spinoff but I haven't seen it yet.
moron
pulling its face off is cool
Warm bodies did exactly that but it's a young adult comedy bullshit.
>We need a movie that mixes slow and fast for this very reason. I don't care how they make it make sense in universe, just make it work damn it!
Technically, 28 days already use this concept even if we don't actually see it on screen.
At the start, zombies/infected are fast, then they slow down because they rot.
So, if you have new zombies and old zombies, some will be slower than the others.
>they rot.
Moreso because they starve since they're still alive. 28 Days infected don't actually eat people for sustenance; they maul them to spread the virus. It's why they don't target dead bodies.
>Slow zombies filled with gas so they fly
They weren't zombies tho, just infected people with super rabies.
>infection that is highly contagious takes over your brain and speads via driving you to attack others
They're zombies, moron. Congratulations though, you almost figured out what allegory is...if you'd done it a couple more times you might have caught on that horror is infused with it because it's what drives terror (i.e. it's real).
Zombies are undead.
>autism
The Zombies in 28 Days Later are deader than Romero's zombies and the idea of "cure" even figures into the latter's films (starting with Day of the Dead).
The main essence of a zombie is the loss of agency due to an event (which is often left ambiguous) causing humans to revert into animals. Romero tries to introduce consciousness into his zombies in an attempt to humanize them (which gives mixed results in quality after Day of the Dead). 28 Days Later uses the outbreak of a weaponized virus because it's allergory is more overt/literal and therefore closer to realism than something like Romero's series.
It's obvious that Romero's movies feature zombies. They're more fantasy based than the 28 Days films, giving them a supernatural quality. It's arguable that the zombies in 28 Days are more dead than other zombie films (i.e. there's less left of their humanity compared to Romero zombies).
let's just give the zombies machine guns while we're at it, as more threatening must mean better, right?
no, slow zombies are for the thinking man, fast zombies are for zoomer morons. simple as
>let's just give the zombies machine guns while we're at it, as more threatening must mean better, right?
Literally "Crossed" the comic
And Crossed was shit. Just Garth Ennis fapping to gore and how much he knows better than doomsday preppers and something something vaguely edgy '00s aethism.
Crazies is sick. The intelligent zombie is for the true thinking man.
My dickhead friend always says to just wait it out and after a month the rage zombies will be starving and rotting but guess what dickhead two weeks after the initial infections and chaos there will be loads of people desperately coming out of hiding and getting infected.
I'd wait two months I've got a bunch of canned food and a water tank that I can access from the second floor.
I'd say I prefer slow zombies in every circumstance but Return of the Living Dead is my favorite zombie movie so I don't know what to think.
What kind of "man" would leave his wife behind like that
There was also only one zom, he could have easily killed him and saved his wife.
There was nothing easy in killing the things capable of infecting you just by projectile vomiting at you.
This. Rage Zombies will tackle you and puke infected blood in your face
just close your mouth, not that hard if you aren't a fat mouthbreather.
>just close your eyes while fighting bro
>oh and your nose ears and pores close those too brah
bad bait
ok Cinemaphile, be honest. i think 28 weeks was better than 28 days. am i the only one?
>28 days
>generic zombie movie honestly. ragtag team all come together under different circumstances to try and find a safe place to live
>twist is humans are le worse
>28 weeks
>turns a cure (which most people would expect to be the end of it) into a detriment that fricks everything up again
>much more gorey
>movie is mostly soldiers vs zombies rather than just having soldiers be throwaways and cannonfodder
>cool helicopter lawnmower scene
>ending is perfect, sets up a sequel if they want one but arent forced to for the plot
Yes. Hawkeye saving two brats was trash. The new outbreak was gay an unrealistic.
Movie is aggressively mid and 28 Days is my favorite movie maybe ever.
Why though? It's just another survival movie aside from the humans bad twist. At least 28 weeks had cool scenes, even if the outbreak was bullshit which I agree. They're both mid movies imo, I just can't see the love for 28 days.
>cool scenes
The only good bits are the stupid Hollywood setpieces. It's mid. The original is a fricking classic and a masterpiece of atmosphere and tension. The sequel is generally fricking awful except for:
>cool intro scene
>cool sniper scene
>cool helicopter scene
>cool night vision scene
It's slop held together by some fun moments. The child protags legit SUCK and the military element is idiotic trash that feels inserted by the US/UK military to massage their PR and encourage kids to enlist [Jurassic Park 3 and Transformers also come to mind for this sin]
It becomes a joke when the military stops caring about the infected and focuses solely on killing Poots and her brother. Also, janitor's key card working on literally every door.
The wife turning up alive was the dumbest shit possible and ruined the rest of the movie
28 days is more of an art piece. there are a ton of beautiful scenes in the movie
I'm glad someone agrees with me on something substantive, all the discussion about this film on Cinemaphile boils down to complaining about the third act.
I really need to rewatch this.
Rewatched it. Top tier movie. I dunno why people get so salty about the whole ending. Jim only kills three guys and each was scared, ambushed and surprised. I also like the idea of the plane being what gave him hope and that a guy who avoided violence through the whole movie ends acting so brutally at its climax that even the girls think he's infected for a couple of seconds. Felt appropriate since one of the main themes was violence. I also liked the final scene. It's the right kind of cheesy and felt deserved.
>Zombies are just humans reduced to our most basic, primal instincts
>The apocalypse ends up reducing the soldiers and eventually our protagonist to their most basic, primal instincts
It's a bit deeper than that. The female protag initially thinks that life is just fighting and surviving now - mercilessly killing her companion right after he gets infected - but Jim refuses to agree with that. After meeting the father and daughter she realizes there's more to life than simply surviving and that their bond is what allowed them to go through all that shit. Caring for the girls is what made Jim go back and fight off a ton of guys just to save them. She even hesitates to kill Jim when she thinks that he's infected. The main point is that surviving just for survival's sake will drive you to become unhinged while doing it for others helps you stay human.
>The main point is that surviving just for survival's sake will drive you to become unhinged
Where do you get this from though. The only ones who where somewhat unhinged were the rapey soldiers but that had nothing to do with how they handled survival.
I see the movie more as being about the true, animalistic nature of mankind being revealed by the virus both directly and indirectly.
Of course love is an instinct too.
Today it would be culture shock. Imagine zoomers suddenly having to procure their own sources of food, reading maps, trying to use a screwdriver
>Where do you get this from though
There's a couple dialogues between the woman and Jim that make it explicit. Also from the officer trying to keep morale with his bizarre dreams of restarting society since his soldiers were getting suicidal. The main point is that just hopelessly surviving for survival's sake isn't enough.
>I see the movie more as being about the true, animalistic nature of mankind being revealed by the virus both directly and indirectly.
That's part of it sure. Like the first scene where the environmental activist starts to brutally bash the monkey they were trying to save after it attacks his friend.
Hmm okay maybe you got a point. Should give this kino a rewatch
>leaving the credit card on the counter
kino. the entire supermarket scene is so good
The scene that always fricked me up when watching this, was when Jim returned home and saw his parents dead in bed died of an overdose, he reads the note then later he's down in the kitchen and it's intersplicing with the flashback playing simultaneous, his memory of the place and his parents.
That was the best flashback scene I've ever seen in a movie because it was so real.
For me, it was Mark narrating what happened to his family. For how little he was in it, he was great.
this
28 days later is a masterpiece. it has such a weird dreamy, ethereal feel to it.
was the girl 18
More films should be shot on video, it looks great
>woman who is clearly infected but isn't turning
>nah let's not put her on hardcore lockdown
>janitor's key card works for every single room
The entire premise falls apart with something so stupid.
28 Days is sadly brought down by its image quality imo, as one of the only movies ever to be shot on a fricking *standard definition* digital camera.
So it's a blurry mess that will never look like a real movie (unless some future AI magic is capable of upscaling it in a way that looks correct)
The image quality is one of the best parts of the film, it looks gorgeous and hazy, like a bad dream, really brings the atmosphere together.
Wouldn't you be terrified if you saw a a shambling corpse? What makes the Romero zombies scary is the fact that they can be lurking anywhere. Have you checked how many people die daily? The rabies zombies are way more deadly but I would still shit my pants if I saw a zombie slowly coming at me and not knowing what the frick it actually is.
Sorry dude but slow ones are basically a joke. 2 dudes with sharpened rebar spears >>>>> dozens of zombies.
Yeah sure, they're pretty easily defeated IF you know what they are, how they function and you need to have the balls and the energy to bash all of their skulls in. The biggest panic would come from the fact that we would be dumbfounded at the fact that a seemingly dead corpse starts walking and most people wouldn't comprehend it.
I'd argue that most of us and especially the elderly people would act like Barbara in NotLD if shit like that happened. The shock of it would be too much for some to handle and people will become paranoid about them even if the military steps in. Dead would still continue to rise and it would be the new normal.
>and most people wouldn't comprehend it.
Nope. Zombies are a known pop culture thing and even without that, logic says if you smash up it's head, it'll have a helluva time posing a threat.
The literal worst part of Romero flicks are the people who are like:
>whoa that's my wife shambling at me with her neck at a 90° angle after she fell down the stairs and snapped her neck and laid dead for 6 hours
It's absolutely a big ol' jug of high concentration suspension of disbelief remover
Oh like the dead coming back to life, which is an everyday occurrence you've undoubtedly witnessed several times over?
It's not hard to believe your own eyes. It's unbelievable dogshit when they're just like:
>Oh no that dead guy stood up and is acting in a feral manner, whatever can I do?! Surely I will be able to reason with him!
Seriously. I think NotLD is kino but the whole
>first hour of the movie is morons trying to cope with obvious and apparent truths
Thing is always dogwater
>Stab zombie in head with spear
>Spear gets stuck
>Try to pull it out
>Still stuck
>Zombie hordes are getting closer
>Pull as hard as you can
>Lose balance, fall backwards into the other zombie that slowly approached from behind you
>Die
It would not be as easy as you think
Nah, pointy rebar isn't gonna get stuck. Just weld on a horizontal grip. Then you can grab that fricker and really yank it out easy.
>just take a break from dodging zombies to find a welder's shop bro
Bro I already I plied you found untouched rebar and had time to file it down to a point for a spear. Adding a lug to grip it by is nothing.
>Adding a lug to grip it by is nothing.
Walk me through it
Trim 8 inches off the base. Lash it with thick gauge wire to a spot you can grip. Heat with a torch to anneal and tighten your wire lashings. I'm sure somebody with actual welding training could MOG my plan but I'm sure this would well.
>make a bunch of machining noises
>get swarmed by chombers
Congrats you're dead
Bro, it's a torch and a metal file. This is not loud work.
>2 dudes with sharpened rebar spears >>>>> dozens of zombies
That's because you think they can actually die, the whole "destroy the brain to kill them" is a concept to give a chance to fight them. What if they simply don't die? What if you have to destroy their entire body to really kill one of them?
Yeah imagine if you had to burn the bodies to truly kill them.
Like let's say the entirety of Scotland was zombified.
That's 5 million zombies.
I don't think a functional government, let alone a ragtag group of survivors, could neutralize, gather and burn 5 million zombie corpses within a decade.
The longer you take the harder it is to recover as a society.
Cool it with the anti semitic remarks
throw a molotov into the centre of a mass of slow zombies and they'll all burn up
So will the whole neighborhood as all the flaming garbage bags with legs go lean on buildings and collapse onto furniture.
unless you live in an area made of gasoline it would not
>Record scratch
>Yep, that's me. You might be wondering why I'm smiling while being chased down by creatures driven by pure rage and which want to tear me apart
>Well I got 99 problems, but...
>smiling
high grade autism
>Wife? Miss me with that gay shit
Why not tigers then?
Indeed, slow zombies are easily defeatable, so fast zombies make for a better story.
Realistically the slow ones aren't a threat. You can smell their rotting asses a mile away, and your escape speed is minimal and easy. The "fresh" ones that are so fresh that you can't hardly tell they're zombies will be the fastest and strongest, and they'll also be the biggest threat because of it.
since we're talking about zombies what's your dream scenario?
mine is happening upon this bus as it breaks out and I take them all in a safe place indawoods where we can survive as I teach them survival skills and how to use weapons, and other things.
>and other things.
what other things?
farming
>teaching women survival skills and farming
I think after a short space of time, you'd wish that you were in the middle of a city during an apocalypse.
nah they're young and will adapt to their new life as my wives pretty fast
>farming
what would you be planting and harvesting? you keep seeds in your getaway bag?
no but I know where to get them
He wants his balls drained.
I'm not a rapist but I would rape so many women during an apocalypse.
This guy’s a rapist
He isn't. But he would be if he gets the chance and knows he can get away with it.
It's a chilling idea that there's people out there who just don't have empathy or morals, or would happily drop them if it gets them something. You've met them and talked to one of these people and you probably never guessed what they could be capable of or maybe already have done. If they'd be in a situation where they could rape a woman (or a man, or a child), they're thinking "can I get away with this" and they'd simply do it if the answer was yes.
You should watch Spoorloos.
I did. It was Bioscoop
Sometimes the survival of the species needs that extra push.
wtf is with people on this website and rape? frick sake so many of you are mental or foreign
Not being in a long term relationship makes people go crazy.
I'm an incel and never wanted to rape anyone and never would. I'd sooner blow my head off.
gay
would have 1/4 of them pregnant at a time
rotate them like crops
I just with there more zombie movies with an actual supernatural premise, similar to dead space. Something that has the ability to frick with you mentally, plant ideas in your head, etc. Not to mention they aren't just zombies but controlled by a sort of hive mind and can be reanimated even just as a soup of tissue.
The creeping escalation of tension as opposed to instantaneous drama? The Romero films were about people and the prospects of survival reflected that.
Fast zombies only serve the same purpose in their absence like 28 days later.
>Common slow zombies
>Uncommon fast zombies
>No infection via bites and shit
>Dead always becomes zombies
>Body shots kill them
perfection
mutant zombies from Military experiment
Apocalypse satanic zombies
mystery disease slow zombies
fast hyper rage zombies
Slow zombies represent unavertable march of death itself, you cannot stop it, you can only run but eventually it will catch up to you
Fast zombies are for ADHD horror addicts that love jumpscares
>you just don't get it chudcel slow zombies like im my heckin authentic romero flicks represent DEATH and how INEVITABLE it is, you'd get it if maybee just maybe you smoked some KRATOM (thanks Tyrone!) while watching them. Not my fault your testosterone-addled brain can't appreciate the true slow burn horror of creeping death. Fast zombies are just there so you MAGA domestic terrorists can live out your murder fantasies on stand-ins for BIPOCs.
Slow zombies lost their appeal because they look too human nowadays, the scare factor of romero zombies was the fact a corpse is moving on its own, the fact something dead suddenly is not dead is very unnerving.
My idea for slow zombies would be the gored zombies start moving again, the flesh bits somehow still move, all the infected flesh is alive, someone eating steak from an infected cow has the steak itself move away from the plate
writers/directors essentially want to have their cake and eat it too when it comes to the zombie genre
as moronic as it is, said zombie genre does need to adhere to a a set of in-house rules that automatically limit them to being slow lumbering sacks of meat
otherwise where do they even stop with the convenient modifications to where they're no longer even really zombies and just any stupid thing the plot calls for?
you can have your fast or whatever reanimated corpses but don't call them zombies in the process
>What kind of mindless moron would actually start yet another thread to argue over which kind of zombies are better/scarier?
ftfy
The zombies from The Night Eats the World were exceptionally creepy. They were fast, but they also didn't seem to die of exposure or rot, they ignored each other and every other animal that wasn't a person. I think the movie hinted that if you imitate their movement they can't really tell you apart from one of their own, but it's a long shot. Of course, the creepiest aspect of those zombies was that they were fast and completely silent; no moaning or screaming, nothing. They could be anywhere and once you saw them chances are they'd be on you and you'd be fricked. The only way the protagonist of that movie could survive was by literally locking himself up in an apartment and never coming out.
>The Night Eats the World
Beast zombie movie in God knows how long and a total sleeper. I like how its main theme was about ignoring a bad situation through something that's safe and familiar vs facing the unknown for the chance of something else but possibly not making it.
>The zombies were exceptionally creepy
They spend the whole movie acting like a bizarre cross between a robot and an amimal, completely inhuman. Then, when you think that you understand them the zombie that he kept trapped and spoke to simply ignores him after being freed and you find them even weirder than before
>spoiler
I suspect that they are still human to a significant degree. They seem to attack anything that moves too fast and reminds them of themselves, since they left the cat alone and didn't go after the protagonist while he was walking slowly in the dark, so it's not like they can smell him. As for the old man not attacking him, I'd say he got so used to his presence he no longer saw him as a threat. My guess is that those zombies are on perpetual "fight mode" against everything on two legs, but they can still learn.
>Beast zombie movie in God knows how long and a total sleeper.
It honestly feels like the fourth adaptation of I Am Legend, up to the intrusion of the woman in his fortress.
The main theme was great, I think it's refreshing to have a zombie story that's not about "humans are the real monsters". It really was about risks and coming out of your comfort zone.
watching this now. i'm really liking it so far
Just finished it, thanks anon, indeed one of the best ones in a while.
rage zombies are stupid though because eventually they all just die out in weeks like we saw in 28 days. at least with slow zombies, they last for years and years and years.
Post your favorite and least favorite zombie moments.
Favs:
>lone slow zombie tapping on a glass window
>starving survivors find supplies
>survivors observing huge hordes of zombies from a safe distance/elevation
>moments of societal breakdown right as it's happening
Least favorite:
>humans forming post-apocalypse factions with stupid ideologies or themes
>zombies magically sneaking up on people who have been living in a zombie apocalypse for months if not years
>survivors search a house like a swat team, holding angles and jumping out behind corners, as if that's safe
>zombies magically sneaking up on people who have been living in a zombie apocalypse for months if not years
Stealth zombies have always bugged me. Zombies are constantly making noise by shuffling and moaning. I don't get how they'd be able to sneak up on anyone, especially if you're extremely alert all the time.
Lazy writing for the most part.
If anything, you'd be alerted by the smell of a rotting corpse long before it's near you.
search a house like a swat team, holding angles and jumping out behind corners, as if that's safe
it isn't?
If you follow the one bite>infected rule, how could it be? You put yourself in a situation where you are so much more likely to get bit than when you're out in the open.
Makes more sense to me to knock on the door and wait and see if anything shuffles out first.
forming post-apocalypse factions with stupid ideologies or themes
I like this as a concept, shame it's almost never done right
>zombies magically sneaking up on people who have been living in a zombie apocalypse for months if not years
Isn't the argument usually that the suvivors become a bit deaf after firing all these guns in enclosed spaces without ear protection?
I like the idea that a freshly turned zombie would be the highest threat. Using 120% of the bodies capacity to move until it becomes absolutely burnt out barely able to crawl. A fresh zombie would be an absolute force of nature, able to sprint faster than any human by simply ignoring muscle tearing and the like. Just one fresh zom could probably decimate a village lulled into a false sense of security by only dealing with weak decaying zombies. We rarely if ever see this type of zombie in media but imo it's the most logical and horrifying route to go.
> but but muh creeping horror
Yeah if you're some old boomer on the brink of a heart attack
The problem with fast zombies is that is just unbelievable anyone would survive. If fast zombies had regular zombie numbers even the biggest armies in the world wouldn't stand a chance.
Did she deserve it?
Spoiler: Yes
you have time to realize youre about to be ripped to shreds with slow zombies. fast zombies get to you before that so it ends rather quickly
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Zombies symbolize slow impending death. Not fast moving death. That's wicked gay & for stupid dumb people. You stupid frick.
Yeah fast zombies are cool, but what about when the cause of the outbreak is a new performance enhancing drug and all the zombies so all the zombies are strong and...know parkour. Pure Danny Dyer kino
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am I the only one who thinks zombies are fricking scary.
running
crawling
smashing through windows
ripping doors off hinges
getting run over in dwarves popping the tires stopping the vehicle
slamming through a windshield, proceeds to flail at you undeadingly.
someone needs to run outside to the shed for supplies, draw the short straw, turn on everyone and swear up and down you still wont do it, threaten at gun point, kill the other surivors and steal their shit they deserved it.
ZOMBIES.
same here man zombies spook my guts off
Zombies are scarier than aliens.
Not like rotting zombies, but fresh ones who aren't even necessarily covered in blood or anything.
Makes every encounter with another human a threat, hell, it even makes the people you're with a threat.
One moment it's all hunky dory and the next your mate is chewing on his GF in the next tent.
This is also why Invasion of the Body Snatchers is very spooky and a bit too real, like losing the people you know to homosexual ideologies.
>Zombies are scarier than aliens
Zombies were piggybacking off of Invasion of the Body Snatchers (they're originally mind enslaved cursed people in Vodoo); you could say The Manchurian Candidate is a zombie film in a sense-- after man bent the natural world to his technological will, the biggest environmental X factor was mankind itself. Unless you're Timothy Treadwell, the bears out innawoods are less of a potential threat than some whacked out psycho yahoo you come across.What started as a monster gimmick, then Cold War communist 5th column metaphor got more generalized into prepper WROL & TEOTWAWKI "oh god of frick amoral morons scrambling for their next meal" fear of the mass other.
I want the smart and sexy zombies. They won't straight up eat you, unless they're starving. Fine as hell and always horny because no one will frick them because that's one of the ways that you get infected. The real horror is fighting the urge to coom inside of your zombie waifu. Imagine the horror. How long would you last?
there's a sense of inevitability about them and the represent a chilling threat that isn't always an immediate danger but promises to get you eventually
they give you time to think about your fate and see your own humanity reflected in them
I don't like zombie movies. I prefer my entertainment to not try to mimic what real life is like.
just open a sewer drain cover and fricking walk wide circles around it. If it gets full, push a car over the hole and pop/remove the tires
80s movies have taught me that any problem you push down into the sewers eventually comes back as a mutated problem
>we could easily deal with something that would reanimate the corpses of every single person that does
I don't get how people can even pretend this is trues after the watching the response to a fricking more transmissible version of the fricking flu 3 years ago.
Normies are just pretending that didn't happen.
That dies*
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I hate my fricking phone autocorrect so much it's unreal
Turn it off, idiot.
Your logic centers are malfunctioning
You mean people complying with police state tier lockdowns and curfews over a meme flu shows that it would somehow go badly if zombies were real?
How does that make sense? If anything it shows people will just listen to our overlords if it happened, while we're all told to sit inside the military/police deal with it.
Yeah bro we totally contained it no prob
That isn't the point you dumb monkey, you can't contain the flu, you can contain dead people walking around the streets
They weren't allowed to deal with it you brain dead ape
Yeah, corrupt scum saw an opportunity to make money so they contradicted themselves and made it up as they went along, such a comparable situation
>They weren't allowed to deal with it you brain dead ape
And they won't be allowed to deal with "sick" people either, they will have to contain them, at least in a lot of countries.
you mean like the blm riots during covid
yeah that was real peaceful and the police did a great job dealing with it
Go back to hoarding toilet paper
I'm pretty sure people would just flip flop back and forth, and I know for a fact our politicians would use it to grift as much as they could, likely until it was too late to have a coherent response. I think if the zombies happened really suddenly, like cities overwhelmed in days or a couple weeks that wouldn't happen, but if it's more of a slow burn spreading across the globe we'd either get bored and stop paying attention or just drop the ball entirely until it was too late.
>but if it's more of a slow burn spreading across the globe we'd either get bored and stop paying attention
That reminds me of the beginning of Shaun of the Dead. Zombies were already wandering around but people didn't realize it and assumed they were weird homeless junkies that they avoided.
In a real life scenario, the issue would be convincing people that zombies aren't human anymore and must be destroyed. There would be a lot of initial confusion. Doctors and nurses would carelessly get bit. Hospitals would get overrun soon after. After that it all comes down to debate, if soldiers get desperate enough they might start opening fire, bullets should be able to tear through a horde alright. But there will be people who protest murdering zombies, people who think they're loved ones are still in there somewhere. There's definitely no way it will be allowed to shoot down people who got bit but haven't turned. People will protest, there's no telling how bad that will get. If we're going by TWD rules cities should collapse pretty fast.
Why not just have both?
It seems like runners would naturally separate from the slow walkers who would form into herds
So you can have both types of threats
>complaining about the 3rd act when it has `in the house in a heartbeart`
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Movie zombies are lame, period. Only videogames can make them work, because they're supposed to be stupid jobber enemies
Special infected zombies are such a novel concept, strange how zombie movies after L4D didn't try to do that sort of thing.
This is what I'm getting at
here, anon. Zombies with special powers are great for video games, because they add more variation and challenge for the player, but in a film you have to ask how their inclusion affects the narrative or themes. Night of the Living Dead or 28 Days Later wouldn't be better for having a scene where a Tank suddenly throws a car at the survivors.
Fair enough
Slow zombies for disaster movies, fast zombies for horrors
>it's a hoax
>no it isn't
>it only kills those vulnerable
>wait it actually kills everyone and if you leave home you're gonna die
>wear cloth masks tho
>cloth masks actually don't do shit, wear this other one
>don't leave your home
>you can leave your home now
>nevermind, don't leave it
>we're developing a vaccine that'll make you immune
>Immunity? We never said that the vaccine would grant you that
If anything the cough served to eternally shut up the people who go "how did they fail to deal with the virus" while watching a zombie movie.
Meant for
>Zombie movie
>No one wearing body armor
>Zombie movie
>People are wearing ballistic body armor instead of anything that would cover neck, hands, wrists, face etc
This. Literally just wear thick leather clothing and a motor cycle helmet. The zombies teeth will bust off before they ever penetrate your chad gear. I would also just use a ballpeen hammer as a weapon. Its light weight, durable, and delivers enough damage to the brain to put one of em down for good with minimal effort. Btw im trans
>That one scene in WWZ where characters duct taped thick magazines to their forearms.
>Ideally, a horror film will have both slow and fast zombies.
>The fast zombies are always dangerous
>The slow zombies are dangerous in the dark, indoors, and in the woods
>Not knowing which is which upon first seeing one adds to the fear
>ultimately, zombies are just one more fear in a zombie apocalypse; alongside the power going out, food running out, no running water, stores robbed clean, gas shortage, being short on everything, crime everywhere, tyrannical cruel yet incompetent state, traffic jam, anarchy, no meds, feral beasts and psychos on the loose and so on. Zombies are both the cause and the icing on the cake of disaster
> imagine Congo/Detroit/Chicago/Fall of Rome/LA/Mad Max/Toronto but worse
Make slow zombies completely silent. That shit would be scary.
Ty to the anons that recommended The Night Eats the World. It was good. Saw the woman he shot being a hallucination of his fevered mind coming from a mile away, but it was done well.
Whole thing is uploaded on Youtube btw.
Because you're a midwit OP. Not every monster in a horror film is supposed to be the most apex predator. Slow zombies are scary because they are shown to never stop coming. They would literally walk on the bottom of the ocean to get to you on the other side. The constant moans and seeing decay while you are just waiting to be torn apart by teeth. It's a slow, drawn out death comparable to hell
Dude, frick off with that pseudo intellectual bullshit. In the real world, slow zombies would be taken care of pretty quick and the world would go back to normal. But fast zombies would absolutely be an issue since they can actually run after you.
>In the real world
It's a movie you autistic frick. In the real world 90% of movies wouldn't happen. You're not as smart as you think you are anon
In the OG zombie movie Night Of The Living dead the zombies get BTFO'd with ease when the military shows up at the end. They are still a serious threat until that happens and believably get everyone killed.
watch fido. its okay, nothing amazing, but its a different take. 1950's america, zombies have appeared and were pretty much dealt with right away, they have safe zones and fences pretty much defeat any zombie. instead, they create some special shock collars and use the zombies as menial slave labor. of course, something starts going wrong with the collars, who woulda seen that coming.
anyways if you ever wanted to see a zombie billy connely almost frick trinity from the matrix, heres your chance
A scary thought
Because if their zombies why are they so fast? It makes no sense. Not to mention these movies made the moronic decision to have them just run like people. COD has perfect running zombies, aided by it being a game, where they run but in such a haphazard or creepy way that it works.
what kind of mindless moron would actually argue about zombies
Zombie anything is so fricking stupid. Even as a kid I thought the idea of a dead thing with a decaying body is going to somehow be strong enough to grab people and bite them and shit lmao what
Are you black?
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>God save the Queen.
for last
Slow zombies are a good metaphor for working in a service profession: hordes of mindless masses, interaction that dehumanizes both parties, no end in sight, no final goal, just more zombies
Inescapable, unrelenting, inevitable doom is scarier than RUN!
>ok so there are these crazed humans driven by one thing consuming human flesh
>instead of running after the one thing they desire lets have them walk though
this stupid shit is not even up for debate walking zombies are trash and for morons who's reference is lame ass 80s movies.
Zombies can't run because of rigor mortis, you double Black person.
>rigor mortis
it sets in then goes away after a few days dumb frick
And then the muscles have already started rotting.
>And then the muscles have already started rotting.
if they are consuming protein like from you know humans why exactly would that happen. are you slow or something?
are these the most OP zombies on film?
>fast, smart, and nearly invencible
But also in constant pain.
Scariest version of zombies ever, not even nuking solves the problem in that universe
They’re basically invincible. You could hack those zombies into pieces and each bit would still try to get you. They tried nuking them and that only made the problem worse.
Or did it?
frick you for ruining my video game zombie kinos. Now every zombie game I play consists of bodies just trying to ram me and flaying around like angry rioters. The tension was always about running out of ammo, and even though you can out run them their determination will not let up.
man frick Danny Boyle for doing this one scene only and tricking us into watching the whole movie
More movie recommendations please, in the mood for some zombie kino now. Reply with your favorite movies. If I already watched I'll tell you if it's shit or not.
They're more aesthetic, and funnier. Running zombies spastic and annoying.
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That's what fast zombie movies feel like.
Slow zombie movies are like there's this thing slowly creeping toward you while some sick electronic Italian music plays. It's kino.
Imagine Dracula
Now imagine if Dracula was on a skateboard
Point made.
That zombie movie where they lock themselves inside the shopping mall was comfy. Irl how long would it be possible to stay alive in a big shopping mall like that in a zombie like scenario? Like the power would go out eventually even if there was like a hardware store with generations and fuel you would run out of that fairly quick I imagine. So food would go bad and whatnot.
Realistically you could live forever with proper barriers and livestock/herbs/fruits/vegetables. Would take a little time getting situated.
irl how would any sort of zombie scenario be remotely challenging to the army when they could just fly in a helicopter and just shoot them and have no chance of being bitten?
Slow zombies are more animal like. And they zone you out of places you need to raid for supplies. If they shamble through your zone and stay long enough you get starved out. A slow death, or a slightly slower death being ripped apart.
Fast zombies like Crazies & 28 Days Later feel like more of an active threat because they've retained some executive function/are psychotic + rabies; they're actively hunting uninfected and have functionally unlimited stamina compared to you (and probably moron strength). The more active at night/light sensitivity in the latter adds a little Vampire cachet on top of it. 28 Days Later being a lab release of a hybrid mind/bioweapon agent by ecoterror zealots was the scariest part.
Has there ever been a zombie movie set in medieval times? A Knights suit of Armor would give him perfect protection from a zombie.
Mindless moron here, allow me to argue that they are.
They can be if done right, which they hardly ever are. It has all to do with numbers and build-up to create suspense.
The whole reason zombies are supposed to be scary is because they reflect a a "corrupted human" who has gone into a completely mindless state of endless hunger and entropy. You look at a zombie the same way you look at a monkey, albeit with a different lense applied.
Looking at a monkey in a zoo gives you a feeling of fascination.
Looking at an animate corpse gives you a similar fascination, but also an onset of dread. It's the same familiarity, but with the addition of the inevitability of death and corruption.
Now, of course that would be more scary if there's dozens of them chasing you super fast and can use weapons, it instills fear in the sense of being HUNTED.
But hundreds of slow, dumb, mindless, weak zombies completely surrounding you and slowly creeping in on you? It gives the sense of being TRAPPED. You are surrounded by death, and you can fight it off all you want. Maybe you have a weapon and can fight off a few dozen but they just keep coming, endlessly, over and over. Reminding you that death is in fact inevitable. You can try to run fight and hide but when they just keep coming you realize that your fate is already sealed, you have only a few minutes left to make your piece and kill as many as you can. They won't get you right away, but they WILL get you. It's straight up poetic.
Of course Hollywood is moronic and would never make anything remotely that well-written, so they just keep shitting out zombie stuff because it's popular until it isn't.
zombies are impossible. they'd just eat each other
>but they're not le alive
what does that mean? they have to have blood pumping their veins to make their muscles work and nervous system coordinating them etc
they're only 'not alive' in some vague metaphysical way related to consciousness their body would still be edible meat
I don't remember how did they secure the building in Dawn of the Dead so that no zombies could just break in the front door or something
Drove trucks in front of the doors.
I'm not American but surely American shopping centers like this would have big gun shops with frick loads of guns and bullets so would it not be possible to get a few rifles and just kill all the zombies in the surrounding area?
In the movie the whole premise was that the gun store was across the street and the owner had ran out of food.
Also that obviously there was more zombies than there was bullets and the gunshots attracted more zombies etc
but it's a zach snyder film so the whole plot is nonsense it's just that things have to keep happening
>but it's a zach snyder film so the whole plot
He didn't write this one, James Gunn did.
oh even better
>Living creatures that can die naturally from starvation and aren't reanimated corpses
the only zombie is a slow zombie
How about restrained zombies
Is this about sex with zombies?
teenage boys find a zombie girl in an abandoned building and one starts fricking it
>fresh zombies are fast at first
>zombies that were athletes, soldiers, or children are really fast
>elderly, fat, or decomposed zombies are slow
>they all eventually rot and fall apart
except for the twd universe where they somehow never fall apart even the swamp zombies and the women zombies all have full heads of coiffed hair
>fat zombies have more health and take more bullets to kill
How do you guys feel about "smart" zombies? Like the occasional one that might remember how to open doors or flip light switches.
Romero did it well in Day of the Dead, before going off the rails with Land of the Dead.
It's a fun topic to explore, but I prefer my zombies dead and mindless. Plot-wise, they can still accidentally pull a door handle or even maybe press and pull a door knob just by enough of them jerking around
Knowing what to do in order to get the desired effect would make them smart you idiot
Romero's idea was that what if after a while the zombie's evolved?
I liked the return from the living dead approach to zombies all around.
They actually retained much of their living intelligence, but where so driven insane by their need to eat living brains that they behaved like they were mindless. And they were totally invincible short of burning them to ash or electrocuting them.
From a film making standpoint, its a good mix, but you can have the hordes of the mindless dead, and have the personal conflict of dealing with your zombified friends at the same time. I don't think the Return series of movies, at least the first 3, get enough credit.
>zombie movie
>nobody is concerned about the food or water supply possibly being contaminated
at least the characters insisted to only eat canned food in The Thing
It's been 60 years and zombie films STILL haven't managed to surpass this. Why?
Who said they are supposed to be scary? The entire mood of zombies was meant to be overwhelming inescapable dread. If you'd lived through the last 30 years of immigration you would understand.
what about zombies that run at day, but only walk at night?
>you can avoid contact with slow zombies
Sure, like you avoid contact with humans now, except they are actively looking for you. Slow zombies scour the earth and will literally crush you under their own weight if nothing else.
become mindless zombie/infected, yet conveniently attack only normal humans and still posses enough motor control to not run against walls. at least supernatural zombie have a excuse
Zombies are a metaphor. I'm sorry every one of these movies went over your head.
>Zombie flick takes place in a mainly enclosed setting, e.g trapped in a building
>Slow zombies
>Characters are constantly shifting and running around city to city?
>Fast zombies
You can't even argue.
It's scarier in the sense of the victim more so than it being a threat. The scariness of zombies may be how encompassing threatening they are but also in how much pain and suffering they had to go through to get to what they are.
The idea of a zombie is like a rabid dog you have to put down. It's sad, shocking, and scary when it gets to you. It being slow makes it realistic and more sympathetic.
Otherwise it's just a bunch of superhuman cannibals.
You understand, anon. There's an issue where people come at the question of how zombies should act with a gamer-brained perspective of "which would test my reflexes more in a fight", not the emotions generated by the visual, which is much more important in cinema.
Dunno why no movie or series uses different types of zombies at once, thats the scariest shit because you never know what you're going to find
>zombie virus mutates fast so you have sifferent zombie strains
>fast ones
>slow ones
>some that retained some degree of intelligence and can open doors and replicate voces and shit
Etc etc
>What kind of mindless moron would actually argue that slow zombies are better/scarier?
as long as they dont die from getting shot or beheaded they are