What makes a character a Mary Sue

What makes a character a Mary Sue

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >twitter post

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Woman doing anything correctly

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Woman doing anything correctly

      Woman doing everything correctly**

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    she cute tho

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    You have a female/feminist writing team that decides to write an uninterestingly all powerful self insert character rather than an interesting/deep character with at least some flaws and charisma that undergoes a plot-based transformation that the audience can be engaged in

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >than an interesting/deep character with at least some flaws and charisma that undergoes a plot-based transformation that the audience can be engaged in
      Star Wars doesn't have these

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Han Solo. Miggs Mayfield. Princess Leia. Luke Skywalker. Anakin Skywalker. Mara Jade. Lando Calrissian.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >interesting
          Han Solo
          Anakin
          Bill Burr
          >deep
          ...
          >flaws
          Burr
          Lando I guess?
          >Charisma
          Han
          Burr
          Leia
          Lando
          >engaging plot based transformation
          Burr
          Luke

          I guess between all of them they kinda fit but literally none of them are deep. Didn't realize that Bill Burr was the closest thing to a great character in the series which is a little pathetic, still had to look up the name though. Don't know who Mara Jade is either but she's officially not Star Wars anyhow.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Props to Bill Burr

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I know right? He's way to good for this, hope he got paid well.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Max Landis is /ourguy/ and I am tired of pretending he isn't

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Reminder that this dude is a pedo and hack writer.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Cinemaphile incarnate

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        So you agree?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I miss him doing more movies. He's fun.
      Being a jerk to girls is normal

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    You know Star Wars fans are feminized basedboys when they want strong in depth female characters instead of sexy characters like Rey. Also you should have a nice day.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I don't want "muh sexy" in a fricking sci fi movie, I get that in porn or IRL. You're a coomer moron with no imagination or ambition.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >You're a coomer moron with no imagination or ambition

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Except that’s what all sexy female characters are like these days dumbass. On top of being likely a lesbian.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I don't want any foids in my movies. I hate them and I prefer not to look at them

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >sexy characters
      yes
      >like Rey
      no

      If you find Rey attractive, you are a homosexual. Stop pretending otherwise.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Rey
      >sexy
      She has no boobs and looks like a man.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    she had no weaknesses, routinely failed forward
    it's obvious the writers not only misunderstand the force, but characterization as well

    the only good idea in the whole trilogy was she was palpatine's granddaughter, and palpatine returned.

    and look how it was executed, look what they did with it. fans of star wars routinely dunk on the movies for palpatine returning in such abysmal fashion.

    a TRILOGY, where the bad guy is squeezed in at the end.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >the only good idea in the whole trilogy was she was palpatine's granddaughter, and palpatine returned
      No it was awful you fricking zoomer

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        she had no weaknesses, routinely failed forward
        it's obvious the writers not only misunderstand the force, but characterization as well

        the only good idea in the whole trilogy was she was palpatine's granddaughter, and palpatine returned.

        and look how it was executed, look what they did with it. fans of star wars routinely dunk on the movies for palpatine returning in such abysmal fashion.

        a TRILOGY, where the bad guy is squeezed in at the end.

        I remember thinking it would be cool at first if she was like an illegitimate daughter/granddaughter born to one of his concubines giving her reason to hate the emperor b/c her mother/grandmother was abused by him which could make for some interesting conflict about her having to let go of that hatred (like rotj) or become him
        but that would be too taboo for disney

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          what about, a rape baby?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            yea pretty much
            it gives her a basis for her hate that explains why the darkside comes so easily to her

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              that's all it would take to have been a cool character, she's Palpatine's rape baby, how does she accept this life she has

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >A TRILOGY, where the bad guy is squeezed in at the end
      You mean literally all of the Star Wars trilogies? Where Palpatine shows up as the main villain in the last episode?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Have you watched a single Star Wars movie?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        no, i mean the six movies where he is prominently show as the one behind all the events, and each movie pulls the curtain back some more, until he is featured prominently in the final movie

        >the only good idea in the whole trilogy was she was palpatine's granddaughter, and palpatine returned
        No it was awful you fricking zoomer

        no, you're an idiot. the twist is fantastic, and the execution is abysmal. if you were smarter you'd realize that, but you lack the cognitive ability to process it and think it through.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >the twist is fantastic
          Lmao christ anon, get some sense of shame

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >if you were smarter you'd realize that, but you lack the cognitive ability to process it and think it through.
            >waffle of no substance
            Yep, it's a moron alright.

            >the twist is fantastic
            typical EU autist. please kys

            three idiots, how quaint
            no discussion to be had with the top of the bell curve

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >if you were smarter you'd realize that, but you lack the cognitive ability to process it and think it through.
          >waffle of no substance
          Yep, it's a moron alright.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >the twist is fantastic
          typical EU autist. please kys

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          There was zero over arching narrative written for the new trilogy. The emperor twist way poorly executed because they pulled it out of their ass as a response to the second movie being so divisive and having to drag JJ moron back.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        You really missed the Emperor's appearance in The Empire Strikes back? Hell, it's made pretty clear in A New Hope that Vader is not the only person behind the Empire.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >only good idea in the whole trilogy was ... palpatine returning
      Debatable, it's not an original idea, considering the same happened in the 1991 dark empire storyline, and it wasn't universally liked back then either.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      I remember thinking it would be cool at first if she was like an illegitimate daughter/granddaughter born to one of his concubines giving her reason to hate the emperor b/c her mother/grandmother was abused by him which could make for some interesting conflict about her having to let go of that hatred (like rotj) or become him
      but that would be too taboo for disney

      The Emperor was supposed to be demonically evil and above such petty desires as fricking women and having fricking kids.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        that's why Rey Skywalker is a rape child, it makes all this sense

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    written by rian

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Incels love this thread

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      i believe it. you’re here.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      im an incel and I only like it a lot, love it is too powerful of an adjective for me to commit too atm

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
    >IS THAT A FEMALE CHARACTER? IN MY CHILDHOOD FRANCHISE?
    >DID SHE... DID SHE KNOW HOW TO DO STUFF WITHOUT ME WATCHING A 10 HOUR MINI SERIES ON DISNEY PLUS WHERE SHE LEARNED HOW TO BYPASS THE COMPRESSOR?
    >AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA IM GOING INSANE

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's a character that can do anything, has few if any noticeable flaws, and the narrative cheats to allow them to succeed. Also, it helps if they are superior to everyone that has come before them for no particular reason. I don't mind Rey being uber powerful with the force, but the movies do little if anything to acknowledge this. They just pretend like that's how the force has always worked.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Also, everyone loves and trusts her right away. Rather pathetic writing there.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Leia, who was insanely close to Chewbacca for 40 FRICKING YEARS - and who shared a crushing tragedy with him - the death of her husband/ soul mate and the death of his best friend and life mate, walks right past Chewy in order to mourn Han’s death with…..REY?!?!? What in the actual fricking frick?!?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Leia should have at least shown token sympathy to Chewie, but you people forget that Chewie isn't an actual character, he's a stuntman in a dog-man costume to serve as the mascot of the team, he can't carry real scenes of genuine drama

          Rey was also alone in that moment while Chewie was off helping Finn

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Leia should have at least shown token sympathy to Chewie, but you people forget that Chewie isn't an actual character, he's a stuntman in a dog-man costume to serve as the mascot of the team, he can't carry real scenes of genuine drama. Rey was also alone in that moment while Chewie was off helping Finn

            This is either the dumbest post in the history of Cinemaphile, or you are a legitimate shill. Either way, frick off

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              You've let your fanboy consoomerist take on Star Wars pollute your perception of the actual films

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I’m not a Star Wars fan. And wanting two characters who’ve known each other for 40 years and who’ve both lost the most important person in their life to share a moment above that moment going to Corporate Rey Sue Palpatine-Nobody Skywalker™ is now “consumerist”? Are you moronic?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Again, Chewie is a dog man played by a man in a fursuit and he can't carry scenes that require actual dramatic weight.

                Also Rey is the protagonist of the sequels, like it or not, she's more important than Chewie is. Should Leia have acknowledged Chewie, at least, because of the history you mentioned? Absolutely, but people who think the scene should have focused on Chewie and Leia instead are delusional, they just love Chewie so much as an action figure they forget, again, that he is a man in a fursuit who's a mascot rather than an actual important character who carries the drama of the story

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >like it or not
                Yeah that's the thing nobody liked her because the movies were garbage and now DC looks like a healthy franchise compared to star wars

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >but you people forget that Chewie isn't an actual character, he's a stuntman in a dog-man costume to serve as the mascot of the team
            No he isn't? What the frick are you talking about.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Please tell me Chewie's character growth in the OT and tell me any actual scenes of emotional depth/genuine interaction with other characters besides giving Luke a hug and crying when Han got frozen

              I bet you also think Ackbar was "disrespected" by TLJ lmaooo

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Please tell me Chewie's character growth in the OT
                Do TLJgays think characters only have a character when they have big growth?
                >I bet you also think Ackbar was "disrespected" by TLJ lmaooo
                You seem very mad about your boogeyman who has probably destroyed your strawmen every SW thread, huh. Is he directly behind you talking into your ear, right now or are you not this mindbroken yet?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Do TLJgays think characters only have a character when they have big growth?

                Generally, yes, real characters exist to face conflict and growth, Chewie is just background dressing.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Generally, yes, real characters exist to face conflict and growth, Rey is just background dressing.

                FTFY

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Rey does face growth and conflict, you just don't like that she's a competent woman because you see that as an infiltration of your boys' club safe space by "woke feminists" or whatever

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Rey does face growth and conflict, you just don't like that she's a competent woman because you see that as an infiltration of your boys' club safe space by "woke feminists" or whatever

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                True, she grows from a powerful fighter into a powerful fighter with the best magic powers ever seen in the whole 9 films.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                EASYILY

                it's mentioned that you should let chewie win at chess or he will kill you.
                later one he can take losing in the game without killing you.
                what is that if not character growth?
                checkmate. kys

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >characters should act as if they’re the audience rather than how the material indicates they should act towards their friends
                This is a genuine sign of autism, and explains a lot about NuWars white knights

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                you know that Star Wars is a movie and not a documentary about a real alternate universe, right?

                Do you think it's "le bad writing" that Biggs' scenes were cut from the original film even though he's supposed to be Luke's best friend?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Can you gays ever defend the movie on its own without these pathetic deflections? Do you not see how fricking transparent it is when you try to shift the subject so you don’t have to defend it?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >reeee I hate that Star Wars is doing a thing
                >this is what Star Wars has always done though
                >STOP DEFLECTING DISNEY SHILL REEEEE

                Please have sex

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous
  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Cry about incels all you want, this character is flat, uninteresting, and will get forgotten for it, hope it was worth the chudposting! Now I'm going to go back to forgetting the sequels were ever conceived

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It's a shame you are an incel, otherwise you would have to watch as your daughters were inspired by Rey during their childhood, and become strong empowered women in their adult life.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Who would relate to Rey as a character? What traits does she have?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          someone who's parents never loved them

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            relatable i'm sure

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          She kisses the white guy instead of the Black person who is simping for her. Mad respect for her, indeed a role model.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >as your daughters
        yeah cause frick boys, they dont deserve role models anymore

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I have daughters. I can’t pay them to watch the Sequel Trilogy. They think it’s boring

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Kids don't give a frick about Rey.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Nobody likes rey, not even the people that are supposed to like her

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >"I'm going to go back to forgetting the sequels were ever conceived"
      >Proceeds to make another thread b***hing about the sequels
      >Rince. Repeat.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The nu wars trilogy in general is utterly forgetful. Does anyone ever even quote these films other than to mock them from the shitty meme lines like "boipassin the compressah" and "Sigh... somehow Palpatine hasreturned"?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        This

        My Black person people were speculating about her familial connection before TFA was even out. I don't even think TFA advocates for a secret mystery box family connection as much as the fanboys insist it does, considering Maz outright tells Rey to stop worrying about her parents because they're never coming back.

        loser right here loves Rey and thinks she’s a well written character and the OT is garbage.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I can just tell that it makes you really fricking steamed that I like a character that you don't, I imagine it's upsetting you irl

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Rey is a garbage character. That’s axiomatic at this point. But, you’re in the 1% and that’s fine. Like what you like. But don’t imply that the OT and the fans are the bad part of Star Wars.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Ah yes, the fanbase of an autistic Five Nights at Freddy's youtuber with 30k subscribers is the definitive sample size and final arbiter's of Rey's merits as a character and her popularity

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                From StarWars.com

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Kylo Ren is the best character in all of Star Wars, him being more popular isn't a slight against Rey

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Kylo Ren is the best character in all of Star Wars
                Disney only hires mentally ill shills nowadays don't they?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah tell me why MACE DINDU and KIT FISTO are amazing and epic while the tortured last scion of the Skywalker lineage played by the greatest actor of our time is bad because he's le emo xDDD

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Kylo Ren is a mediocre character. It’s just that’s everything and everyone else in the garbage corporate trilogy is nonexistent

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Nobody likes this "character" unless they're paid to do so so just frick off SHILL

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              holy shit dude I imagine it's really ruining your day that I like Rey

              my favorite scene is when she yelled while fighting the Royal guard, she cute 😀

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            like what you want, it's just shit taste is all

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The only thing I remember at all were some cool designs. The stormtrooper with the lightning rod and the red guys, that's it. Never bothered to see the third movie after the shitshow that the second one was.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Never bothered to see the third movie
          same

          >saw TLJ, hated it
          >one night at dinner brother and i were shit talking it
          >'but you grew up loving star wars' said my sister 'besides you'll see the 3rd one anyway'
          it's a matter of petty spite really

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Lol same I fell asleep during the casino part of the second and didn't know wtf was happening when I woke up on not-hoth. No inclination to see the 3rd at all

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Don’t bother. The Corporate Trilogy is wet garbage. Star Wars is a dead brand

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Milla Jovovovich's weird fricking character throughout the Resident Evil movies is the biggest self insert mary sue in film history

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The original definition requires a character that is a blatant author self insert, in a fan fiction story interacting with canon characters. Later it was expanded to any character that has no flaws and is liked by every other character for no real reason.

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    they always make female characters mary sue's because the idea of female empowerment is nothing more than a fantasy.

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      when i used to have a pc id literaly just partition and reinstall each time the pc started stalling

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      She learned that the Force was real only a few hours before this. Not how to use it, not what it does, but that it simply exists.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Luke literally had no idea what the Force or a Jedi even was. Rey knew the story of the OT, she just needed confirmation that it was real and not just legend.

        Regardless, despite what prequel and EU autism told you, Star Wars is a story about knowing thyself allowing you to tap into a great power you always possessed, it's not about grinding out experience points at Yoda school so you can level up your DND skill tree in the Force

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          what series are you watching m8 cuz it sure as shit isn't star wars

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >I don't believe it
            >THAT is why you fail

            Oh wait Yoda should have said "Oh no you forgot to whack around glowbats with your youngling buddies for 20 years at Yoda School xD"

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              It’s a basic response from a coach….”you lack confidence, that’s why you miss your shot.”

              None of this justifies having a bland corporate “character” master the most difficult things in the universe in 10 minutes.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >it's not about grinding out experience points at Yoda school so you can level up your DND skill tree in the Force
          did you miss the part where Luke skips out on Yoda school and gets his hand cut off after he fights like a b***h, and then the second time only "wins" because his dad decides to turn on Palpatine? Luke couldn't do shit because he never learned

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Luke wrecks Vader in their second duel. Palpatine is giddy as frick because Luke is leagues more powerful than Vader, and he’ll finally get a full powered Skywalker as an apprentice and not a damaged one

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's fine, she watched the original trilogy and and prequels beforehand

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Rey could have been a great character if she had been developed as a Palpatine from the start, and if they treated Sheev not as a cartoonishly evil supervillain, but as a well meaning senator from Naboo who lost his way, which creates conflict within Rey because she can see where Sheev is coming from in a lot of ways and he's not wrong. People would have also been much more accepting of Rey being so strong with the force if they knew she was a Palpatine. Jar Jar's mystery box bullshit ruined any hope for Rey as a character.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The issue is that Leia and Luke are Skywalkers. And the Skywalkers are twice as powerful as the Palpatines according to George. So just because Rey is a Palpatine, that doesn’t explain why she was so powerful so fast. There is no logical explanation other than left wing politics

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >the Skywalkers are twice as powerful as the Palpatines according to George
        I call bullshit.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          This is pretty well known amongst Star Wars fans. That Anakin, when fully realized is twice as powerful as Yoda/ Palpatine. And that all the Skywalkers have the same M-Count/ potential

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    A true character needs to go on a journey, they need to go from weakness to strength. A true character fricks up, a lot, and they are defeated by their enemy.

    Rey is not a character. She’s a corporation’s failed attempt to grow merchandise sales by badly patronizing females by implying that the most basic rules of dramatic structure do not apply to them.

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >No serious and intentional character flaws
    I.E minor faux flaws (classic example being they're clumsy) don't count, the flaw can't be a way to make them look even better (like being too nice) and it doesn't count if they're a result of shit writing (such as an author being so in love with the character that they don't grasp how fricked up they've made them).
    Rey fits this perfectly. Her defining flaw is just wanting to be loved ;_; and any dumb decision she makes is framed as good and/or works out in the end anyway.
    Contrast with Luke in ESB, who despite mounting a rescue operation is shown to be impetuous and over confident, and gets horribly fricked up as a result.
    >major characters instantly like or are obsessed with the character
    Self explanatory. They are so inherently awesome and important that anyone they meet instantly acknowledges it. Rey plays this so straight it could be a parody. Luke is the exception, which leads on to
    >anyone who dislikes the character is heavy handedly shown the error of their ways or is a villain
    Nobody can be dismiss the character or have good reasons to dislike them, unless they are evil. They have to be proved wrong by the script, not by anything they actually do to earn it.
    Rey does jack shit to earn the eventual deathbed trust Luke has in her, he is forcibly converted by the script.
    >the character warps the plot to be about them
    Regardless of how logical their connection to the plot is, there always has to be a link back to the character because they are the center of the universe.
    This one is actually pretty hard to pull off in a movie, since plot threads should be interconnected, but Rey still managed it. Finn constantly bangs on about her and makes her welfare his prime goal, Kylo suddenly becomes obsessed with her in TFA, Snoke demands her presence despite revealing she was never actually necessary because Jonson's a fricking idiot, and Rey is the one charged with bringing Luke back for absolutely no reason.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You'll notice that none of this mentions her moronic power level or ridiculous abilities. These sure as frick don't help, but at the end of the day Rey could have been a janny and would still be an obnoxious Mary Sue if her position in the plot was similar.
      Powerful characters can easily be well written, in fact Star Wars has plenty of hyper competent characters that very clearly aren't Mary Sues.
      Similarly you can have a nonsensically powerful character who is poorly written but still isn't a Mary Sue because they don't fall into those categories.

      Rey is shit because her character is a boring wish fulfillment of a boring person.
      Bella Swan wishes she could be as much of a Mary Sue.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The actual binary sunset moment of the sequel trilogy is full of SOUL. JJ's hackjob doesn't count

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        last jedi is kino. only mcu bandwagon morons got filtered by it

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Last Jedi has excellent visual effects and cinematography, paired with a dogshit script and unlikeable characters.

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    ANAKIN SKYWALKER BUILT ONE! IN A SLAVE HOVEL! WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS!!

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Female character who is overbearing
    >Good in everything she does
    >Male characters mostly want and need her
    >Some dumb liberal meta commentary through one of their characters or the story
    >Implication of character development but it's largely unimportant to the narrative being spun like for example Dark Rey
    Do I need to list off some more?

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    the secret about this movie is that it is the LEAST OWNED Star Wars movie. It is not receiving true machine spirit DVD energy from true fans and sadly this is what lead to its destruction on the cabalistic spectrum.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      TFA is one of the best-selling blu rays of all time what the frick are you talking about

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Who the frick buys physical copies of movies these days?

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Rey

    pic is a good example of what not sues look like

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Doing everything correctly and better than everyone else for some asspull reason.
    It's worse when the character does things better than other people who were supposed to be 'the best' at what they did.
    Rey surpasses Han Solo's driving for no reason and with no practice, Luke's skills, Ben's, etc. It makes no fricking sense and it requires for fans to just turn off their brains in order to enjoy it...

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      pretty much
      if it were thing if she were just good or passable
      but she's apparently the best at everything

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Correct.

      And because of everything you wrote, Star Wars is dead. You can’t introduce a “character” that the majority of the audience hates and then have her go around being better than everybody at everything all the time and for no real underlying reason (other than Woke™) and expect a positive economic reaction.

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Cant believe you fricking nerds are still butthurt over the original capeshit.

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Calling it a fanfic movie is insulting to fanfics. At least they would think of something interesting, not "she's uh.. the granddaughter twice removed of the emperor or something, idk". That's like making Finn the 3rd cousin of Lando he never met. Great, why the frick should anyone care? The crux of the Vader reveal is how closely associated Luke is with Anakin up until then. It surprised me that Jarjar Abraham utterly failed to comprehend this simple idea. How do you get so high up in that industry as such a dunce?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      how many Star Wars fans speculated endlessly about a hamfisted familial connection for Rey and then started kicking and screaming when TLJ said she was a nobody?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Her being a nobody is fine. Pretending this is some amazing subversion is not, because it makes no sense for it to be in universe.
        Luke is literally the only Jedi with notable parentage in star wars. Speculation about Rey was due to desperate fans in denial, since they wanted any explanation for her bullshit.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        People didn’t give a frick who she was until JJ and his mystery box told them to care

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          My Black person people were speculating about her familial connection before TFA was even out. I don't even think TFA advocates for a secret mystery box family connection as much as the fanboys insist it does, considering Maz outright tells Rey to stop worrying about her parents because they're never coming back.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        i'd like to think a lot of them were trying to explain away her mary sue powers and that she must have a high pedigree for it to make sense. once it was revealed that she was a nobody it probably forced people to come to terms with what an irredeemable mary sue the character actually is for no reason other than silly boys girls can be powerful jedis too XDDD

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >How do you get so high up in that industry as such a dunce?
      It rhymes with the sound people make when they see something gross.

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Being able to swim when you've spent your entire life living in a desert and have never seen a river, lake or ocean before.

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What ever happened to this israeli rapist? Ran out of nepotism?

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    well i guess my biggest flaw would be that im too awesome

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It'll always be funny to me that whenever incels see a cute girl on screen doing things their immediate reaction is "I don't like this at all"

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Rey is a garbage character. That’s axiomatic at this point. But, you’re in the 1% and that’s fine. Like what you like. But don’t imply that the OT and the fans are the bad part of Star Wars.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I’m married, and I flat out prefer girls to guys (not just sexually, I mean in general). However, I despise Rey as a character and the vast majority of us who do so do on the merits and that’s it. Stop implying otherwise

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        [...]

        It's just funny how it happens EVERY TIME without fail. It's clearly not about how well she's written. You just don't like seeing women on screen. Be based for once in your pathetic life and at least admit that

        >but I like Ripley from Alien from 50 years ago!!
        Get some original opinions, dweeb.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Rey is a garbage character. That’s axiomatic at this point. But, you’re in the 1% and that’s fine. Like what you like. But don’t imply that the OT and the fans are the bad part of Star Wars.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >linking a post I already replied to
            1-0

            You’re profoundly unintelligent

            >low effort "u stoopid" cope
            2-0

            Yep, I'm eating good tonight.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Rey is a garbage character. That’s axiomatic at this point. But, you’re in the 1% and that’s fine. Like what you like. But don’t imply that the OT and the fans are the bad part of Star Wars.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          You’re profoundly unintelligent

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >just admit you fit into my moronic strawman because i have no arguments to defend this trash character or the shit movies she appears in
          No, I don't think I'll do that

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            You don't have to admit it, incel. You'd actually be based if you did but you're an incel for a reason after all.

            [...]

            >linking a post I already replied to
            4-0

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >You don't have to admit it, incel. You'd actually be based if you did but you're an incel for a reason after all.
              I accept your concession, let's hope disney gives up and sells the franchise to someone competent

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      She's a heinous xenomorph not a cute girl, you desperate incel frick

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Daisy is the perfect mix of cute and balls-drainingly sexy, you just need to touch grass and have sex

        Rey is also a great character and I love Daisy's performance, she is charismatic as hell.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          your pic and your text are conveying two different messages

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          She’s a 4/10 on a good day. And she’s an average actress

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            She's an appalling actress. She makes Boyega look like a god tier. I'll never forget the scene where they're both being chased by Tie fighters. Boyega is acting like something lethal is right behind him, Rey is acting like a few angry wasps are buzzing around. When I found out she legit had acting issues on set it all made sense.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          you really need to have sex anon

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >cute girl
      but she isnt

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Mary Sue is an original character inserted into a pre-existing universe in a fanfiction. The story changes the pre-existing story so that everything revolves around Mary Sue and the pre-existing characters are made accessory characters to Mary Sue who exist to prop up Mary Sue.

    What makes Rey a Mary Sue is the nuWars is a fanfiction written by Disney of George Lucas's original story. George Lucas's canon characters of Luke, Han, and Leia are turned into accessory characters to prop up Disney's OC Rey.

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The only thing more pathetic than Rey Skywalker is Star Wars nerds.

  35. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    is there a "mary sue" equivalent term for males?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Gary Stu. Though sometimes people call them Mary Su's anyway.

      You don't have to admit it, incel. You'd actually be based if you did but you're an incel for a reason after all.

      [...]
      >linking a post I already replied to
      4-0

      Not a single refutation in your troony post.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >random schizo shit about trannies
        5-0

        >You don't have to admit it, incel. You'd actually be based if you did but you're an incel for a reason after all.
        I accept your concession, let's hope disney gives up and sells the franchise to someone competent

        >random schizo shit about Disney
        6-0

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Incels don't care about seeing men pull off impossible feats, they're just happy to be looking at men instead of icky women.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Incels

        This is the best you have? I’m married and I’m sure most people in this thread aren’t virgins.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          You're not married, incel. And yes, incel is all I need. Reminding bitter Cinemaphile anons that they're sexless because they're bitter never fails.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Yes I am married. But the mere fact that you just deny it is indicative that you’re actually an incel.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              You're insisting you're married in a Cinemaphile thread about how some girl in a stupid star wars movie is a Mary Sue because she didn't do the force correctly or some gay shit. Women don't marry that.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Never said she was a Mary Sue, you fricking idiot. But good job conflating 8 different posters into one because you can differentiate basic vernacular or aesthetic differences. BTW, I’m married with kids and I do well. Ask me anything

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                how fat is your wife

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Not at all. She weighs around 108.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >AMA
                Your thoughts on the Caucasus region?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >I’m married and I’m sure most people in this thread aren’t virgins.
          >mfw I'm the only virgin left on Cinemaphile

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            There’s at least two of us

  36. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Daisy Ridley's ass is the only charismatic thing about her

  37. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    More like Marey Suewalker

  38. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Mary Sues aren't bad. All Ghibli movies are full of them yet are still good movies

  39. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    we have to go back

  40. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The one thing they did right with her character was in TFA where they showed that her exploring ship carcasses helped her fix the falcon and helped her navigate the not-death star
    everything else can be summed up in one quote after the millenium falcon flight sequence in TFA
    >HOW DID YOU DO THAT?!
    >I DON'T KNOW IVE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE!!

    What made Luke a great character is that you can put yourself into his shoes, subconsciously: you try, you tend to fail, but have little successes here and there. For every big moment, you lose big too.

  41. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    "Gee, golly, gosh, gloriosky," thought Mary Sue as she stepped on the bridge of the Enterprise. "Here I am, the youngest lieutenant in the fleet - only fifteen and a half years old." Captain Kirk came up to her.

    "Oh, Lieutenant, I love you madly. Will you come to bed with me?"

    "Captain! I am not that kind of girl!"

    "You're right, and I respect you for it. Here, take over the ship for a minute while I go get some coffee for us."

    Mr. Spock came onto the bridge. "What are you doing in the command seat, Lieutenant?"

    "The Captain told me to."

    "Flawlessly logical. I admire your mind."

    Captain Kirk, Mr. Spock, Dr. McCoy and Mr. Scott beamed down with Lt. Mary Sue to Rigel XXXVII. They were attacked by green androids and thrown into prison. In a moment of weakness Lt. Mary Sue revealed to Mr. Spock that she too was half Vulcan. Recovering quickly, she sprung the lock with her hairpin and they all got away back to the ship.

    But back on board, Dr. McCoy and Lt. Mary Sue found out that the men who had beamed down were seriously stricken by the jumping cold robbies, Mary Sue less so. While the four officers languished in Sick Bay, Lt. Mary Sue ran the ship, and ran it so well she received the Nobel Peace Prize, the Vulcan Order of Gallantry and the Tralfamadorian Order of Good Guyhood.
    However the disease finally got to her and she fell fatally ill. In the Sick Bay as she breathed her last, she was surrounded by Captain Kirk, Mr. Spock, Dr. McCoy, and Mr. Scott, all weeping unashamedly at the loss of her beautiful youth and youthful beauty, intelligence, capability and all around niceness. Even to this day her birthday is a national holiday of the Enterprise.

  42. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Hey famous legend Han Solo. You know how you basically know this ship inside and out? Well I am a scavenger on some shit hole desert planet and have been tinkering around with rusted parts for years. Due to this knowledge of a completely different ship I was able to use that skill and bypass the compressor for your particular ship that I am now just stepping foot into. Know how I did this? I ripped out this piece right here.

  43. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No flaws, no growth, outshines other characters

  44. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >why do you want to be a Jedi?
    >because men told me I can't
    >but you can't just become a Jedi overnight
    >I'M ALL THE JEDI!
    Why are women like this?

  45. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I think it is a mixture of a female person that..
    >never fails
    >everyone likes her
    >has the best abilities in (almost) everything

  46. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
  47. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >make 1000 daily threads about women
    >300 responses each thread
    imagine discussing actual film and tv for once

  48. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    the writer

  49. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    poor character development

  50. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Complete lack of real flaws.
    Everyone loving the character without any real reason
    The character inexplicably being capable of great feats for no real reason.
    No real character development, largely due to not having any real flaws, as mentioned above.

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