What makes it so good?
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90s America personified
Joy, apolitical, colorblind and identityblind, machismo. A celebration of the human spirit and happiness
>colorblind and identityblind
Hahahaha
90s America still had race riots and shit like the OJ Simpson trial where blacks sided with a guy even they admit was guilty of murder because he was black like them and the victim was some white woman they didn't care about
>90s America still had race riots
It was just a few bad apples
>the OJ Simpson trial where blacks sided with a guy even they admit was guilty of murder
It was a botched trial, nothing to do with race
This is what people actually believed
OJ got acquitted on a contracted rubber glove and getting the chief investigator admitting to saying Black person at some point.
No the 90s were not a bastion of equality. Most anons here grew up or were born in the 90s and so have nostalgia for a time that never existed.
But you could say Black person and homosexual with impunity
You sure about that buddy? Because in the aforementioned case an obviously guilty man got off because a guy used the dreaded Black person word once.
Yup, at least where I lived. I'm on the GenX millennial border. We played smear the queer
I bet you were top queer lol
Not always
From brave AI
>The object of the game is to hit the "queer" (a small ball) with a stick and then run away before the person who is "it" can catch you. If you are caught, then you become "it". The game is over when the person who is "it" is caught. Smear the Queer is a great game to play at parties or gatherings with friends and family. The game has been around for many years and is a favorite among children.
This. It was so ridiculously overhyped you just couldn't help but like its spunk.
I remember how the traumatized post-soviet lefties of non american countries babbled about this being Le American Propaganda, the masses didn't give them a single frick, all the kids wanted was to get into a F-18 and dogfight alien ships, you haven't had scenes such as this since Star Wars and let's be honest, given the choice most people would still jump into the F-18 and go in a blaze of glory rather than see how inflation, social decay and geriatric diseases slowly kill them.
Funnily enough we all know nowadays they wouldn't have dared attack the film simply because the director is gay.
Seeing all the air forces of the world unite gave me a massive fricking boner.
>Seeing all the air forces of the world unite gave me a massive fricking boner.
This. Also seeing Based harriers and tomcats in the background.
I always have a stiff one for Soviet aircraft. They are pure aesthetic.
lest we forget the noble and highly effective African AA systems.
Heh, well it IS propaganda, ham-fisted but successful at that, just like Armageddon.
Recruitment numbers went up afterwards despite the Pentagon passing on support for the film. Still fun.
>it’s the Americans, they say they have a plan for bringing down the aliens!
>well, it’s about bloody time!
>Tfw the govt didn't give the movie funding because it showed the US military in a potentially losing position
>Against aliens
You still get that with thing like Top Gun. /misc/estinian incels and reddit troonys both seethed over how well it did both domestic and internationally
>tfw will never be a top gun
Last half is definitely less good than I remember but the first half is apocalypse kino
The "build up" in ID4 is pure hype, same as in Stargate
Procedural drama, then switches to action schlock half way. Something for everyone.
Low expectations of mediocre post-Spielberg blockbusters of the mid and late 90s and sub par directors like Emmerich?
No gays, women relegated to secondary roles.
There was an implied gay as a comic relief who died through ineptitude.
Right blend of seriousness and fun. It takes itself seriously enough that you care about the characters and plot but not so seriously that it forgets that it's a cheesy alien invasion movie.
it's a story about earf
it's not good. it sucks.
DAAAAVID
These.
this movie gave me a moronic complex as a kid about wishing to sacrifice myself to save the world in a blaze of glory. it will never happen
Why the frick would you think that would be moronic?
God bless they changed it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls2CwZjQ9es
It may be your chance now if ayys turn out to be real and they want to destroy us
The Alien design
Modernism makes it good.
I am sick and fricking tired of post modernism in movies.
Nothing one can be genuine or matter any more.
>Is there an emotional or tense moment? Quick diffuse it with a shit joke
>Is there any expectations? Subvert them enough that subversion is now expected
>Optimism? Frick that shit, we only got iron and cynism for ya
>Film on location? Props? But we have a green screen? Who cares.
>Staying in character? Stop it, the writer has things to tell you, and besides constant 4th wall breaks always sucks the viewer in
>Real Comedy? No you have people being mean and insulting each other and you are expected to laugh.
This shit is also a splash of acid to the face of culture.
It was fun but come on, some of the modernism of it is what made a lot of its jokes cheese and its resolutions goofy.
"I'm not israeli""Nobody's Perfect"
I am going to kill the mothership with a Macbook.
The unironic sillyness is why I DO consider it the best B movie.
soul
The sheer size of the alium mothership.
Did this movie create the formula for the modern blockbuster? I watched it for the first time a few months ago and thought it was really bad. It's just like all of the shit coming out today.
Star Wars was the first iteration of a blockbuster, 20 years before ID4 came out.
Fricking zoollenials. Jaws or Stars Wars would be a better example, they were extremely popular films.
Loose criteria like big budget, release between Memorial day and Labor day, and high box office are the formula that they spent most of the 90s doing. It seems like it's the decade of blockbusters but the last decade with capeshit probably blew it out of the water.
I've always considered either Jurassic Park or T2 to be the first "true" blockbusters. They were designed from the ground up to be big hits, complete with merchandising, while Star Wars or Jaws were more like surprise hits.
T2 was pure clutch because of the balance of postmodernism and modernist themes, especially within the framework built of the darker T1 and the realization that "we did this to ourselves". Hell, James Cameron making the villain a cop and other cops killing Dyson, the black guy, was NOT an accident. He has explicitly stated as such. We get none of that in ID4 which is why it feels and was meant to be, and is, to some extent, propaganda.
Tim Burton Batman? Had huge ads, merch, albums,etc
ID4 was probably the first to branded and hyped as The Summer Blockbuster and was filled with great doses of action and fun despite the sillyness.
Wrong, that was jurassic park
fair enough
Jurassic Park was the last movie that belonged to the cinema of new adventure that started with Jaws. Independence Day is from the next generation of mediocre blockbusters that don't deserve the nostalgia.
Hi Steven, can’t believe they let you direct Ready Player One.
These sexy things. Sleek, swift and deadly. Absolute %100 distilled kino of the highest pallate whenever these things were on screen.
>Will was dating a prostitute
It wasn't supposed to be a documentary
>Will was dating a prostitute
yet in the second film she as a respectable doctor essentially leading the entire hospital.
Nothing, nostalgia maybe. It's pretty mid. I think it's weird to see so many people pretending they loved this 6/10 movie so much.
There are two kinds of people: those who saw ID4 at a young age and loved the shit out of it, and those who saw it at a more discerning age and thought it was cheesy garbage and never looked back (like RLM)
I fingered a chick while watching the extended edition in her basement one night. Shit was cash.
How would Cinemaphile have fared in the war?
Renoite here, nicely untouched.
you would have unironically been next had randy quaid not kamikaze'd the ship at Area 51
That's because he had a great time there after a sheltered existence.
I constantly confuse this movie with The Big Lebowski.
I like how the little alien controls the bio suit
Meant for you
>Dallas
wew, that was a close one boys
Leaf here. Toronto and Vancouver wiped off the map day one. Based Aliens. Nothing of value was lost. If they’d taken a swing at La Belle Provence too, I’d have thrown my lot in with the invaders right there and then.
Same leaf eyelet here. I actually read the list to the end this time. I see they wiped out Ottawa on day 3, and Quebec day 4. Where do I sign up, boys?
90's action kino, no political bullshit.
Ever noticed how in these older productions you have THE president and can't really tell what party he is? Yeah.
>no political bullshit
The movie was intentionally subversive your were just to indoctrinated to realize.
pre-divided america. 90s, most things were going pretty well for most people. even if you were down and out it wasn't that difficult to get your shit together if you wanted to. we might be blinded by nostalgia but that good feeling you get from watching this movie is similar to how it felt to live through the 90s. we didn't know it at the time, of course. 9/11 is when it first started to die off, then by the 2008 recession it was gone. by the 2010's we were stuck in the increasingly-shittier malaise you're familiar with now in 2023.
yeah, another nice little thing to notice
>you have THE president and can't really tell what party he is?
He was a republican. Will smiths wife said she voted for the other guy and she is a city living black stripper, guaranteed dem voter.
>WE WILL NOT GO QUIETLY INTO THE NIGHT
>WE WILL NOT VANISH WITHOUT A FIGHT
i'll never forget my friend telling me about President Whitmore and i was like, "When was he president?" and my friend was like, "We've never had a President Whitmore,,,"
The alien looked awesome.
It had cool alien ship designs that hits a flying saucer nostalgia, their blue plasma weapons were aesthetic as frick and Will Smith leading.
Post other GOAT movie speeches.