I can’t speak for the real Lewis Strauss as I’m not that well versed on the history but I think movie Strauss was more a victim of his own inferiority complex than anything else. To be honest, who can blame him? He was placed on a commission presiding over nuclear energy and weapons when his background was in commerce and munitions production. When faced with the illustrious Julius Robert Oppenheimer he was eager to please him, running out the door of his own institute to greet him as he arrived, quickly dismissing his concerns over his problematic security files - Strauss clearly wanted to get along with Oppenheimer despite both the men’s flaws. It was only when JRO started enquiring into Strauss, the man, that he started to get cold feet.
The same scene that he is welcomed to the institute, JRO questions Strauss’ academic background he initially dodges the question before ‘admitting’ his background is in business. JRO remarks that he finds commonality between him and his “lowly shoe salesman” of a father - a remark probably meant in jest by the scientist but to the anxious admiral Strauss would have felt all too personal. He carried this quote all the way to the day of his senate hearing. Strauss was on the back foot from day one in this film, and being the shrewd competitive entrepreneur he was he needed a way to ‘prove’ to himself that he was the man who decided the steps the AEC would be taking.
In real life Strauss disliked Oppenheimer because he was a non-practicing israelite, while Strauss schemed his way through Washington anti-semitism all while remaining heavily involved with israeli affairs and organizations.
Everything after that moment was seen through that lens, even seemingly innocuous moments like being snubbed by the forlorn Einstein at the pond send Strauss on a downward spiral of paranoia and spite. Oppenheimer didn’t help his case however, he would often use his position to dismiss Strauss’ legitimate concerns over the Soviet nuclear weapons programme, and even humiliated him in public in incidents such as the debate on the export of isotopes to Norway, seemingly doing so without the prior counsel of the Strauss and the AEC at large. In Strauss’ mind, JRO not walking in step with the rest of the commission was both a personal affront to his prestige and a national security risk.
I don’t enjoy admitting this but I find it hard to hate Strauss for trying to smear Oppenheimer’s name, in his view it was a tit for tat exchange in a world where he was a fish out of water - many of you reading this would have done the same, or at least felt the same, in his shoes.
Although eventually succeeding in his schemes to discredit JRO, Strauss is left in an even more ruinous state when his schemes come to light as he has less fame to fall back on. I find it a shame to think that despite all of Strauss’ achievements in life and JRO’s many moral failings, the reaction to this film will cement both men’s legacies as the conflicted but brilliant scientist versus a nefarious, lowly shoe salesman.
Strauss is not the good guy here
I understand his concern but the nuclear bombs the world have created since Hiroshima and Nagasaki have been pointless
A waste of money and research and for what?
Strauss's only concern comes from what puts himself in a better position not what the country and world actually needs
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Strauss was doing what was in the best interests of his country at the time, that being to provide effective deterrents against the USSR, who would have in all likelihood developed the H-bomb at some point and used its as leverage over the USA if they didn’t develop their own
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And we get to Mutually Assured Destruction? How is that in the best interest of the country?
11 months ago
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Mutually assured destruction is better than assured destruction of you don’t play by the USSR’s rules
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Or you don't and realize that you've crossed a line and walk back
That's the point of the movie
Oppenheimer clearly realized the importance of the bomb but also that the world was made worse off for it
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How are you going to convince power hungry politicians from the most powerful and cut throat countries in the world to give up the most powerful weapons ever? It’s a fool’s hope. They can’t even agree on climate change
11 months ago
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The US proposed the ending of atomic weaponry in 1946 so it wasn't out of the question
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A proposition and an agreement are two very different things, and agreements are often hardly worth the paper they’re printed on
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The line was already crossed.
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>Or you don't and realize that you've crossed a line and walk back
Are you moronic? The rest of the world do not play by those rules. If you have technology that can threaten an enemy nation, you use it to whatever advantage you can get out of it.
Every politician on both sides of the Cold War knew that MAD was inevitable but it was necessary in order to keep the other side in check. Realistically, they were never intended to be actually used on the enemy, only as a deterrent. It's not like future US presidents and Soviet leaders didn't know that nuclear war between the two would end humanity but when you don't trust the enemy, you have to make as many weapons in order to protect yourself from potential annihilation.
And btw, the only reason we even have nuclear missile treaties today (until the Ukranian war) was because one side collapsed and it was in everyone's interest to put away the bombs and cooperate.
11 months ago
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This. The fricking atomic bomb would have been developed no matter what.
11 months ago
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The first treaties were signed back in the 60s
The first attempt was in 46
The issue was always verification and once the ability to verify the nuclear arms race was reduced
I'm also not saying there was no excuse. Just that it's undeniable that the world is worse off because of the arms race and it was always unnecessary. But we don't live in a nice world. We live in the real world. I think that was the point behind the movie. It was always necessary and unnecessary at the same time
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He realized the inevitability. Like a pre-modern man given an arrowhead, it presented an obvious conclusion. The A-bomb would be made, the Soviets would make their own. The arms race would proceed. He knew it. He always knew it, but played idly by
IMO, Strauss' concerns about the Soviets were legitimate, he just didn't feel the burden of responsibility for the lives lost in Hiroshima and Nagasaki that both Oppie and Truman did.
Strauss successfully blocked the planning proposal for Oppenheimer’s new home in Princeton after he retired from the Institute. Oppie was decrepit and close to dying at that stage. Strauss was just a bitter homosexual.
That talk with Einstein! Are you telling me a hat just happens to fall like that? No! He orchestrated it! Oppie! He cucked Richard Tolman! And I saved him! I shouldn't have, I took him into my own comission!
That talk with Einstein! Are you telling me a hat just happens to fall like that? No! He orchestrated it! Oppie! He cucked Richard Tolman! And I saved him! I shouldn't have, I took him into my own comission!
To me the whole point of the third act was that these were now the type of guys who held the fate of the world in their hands. Los Alamos was filled with big brains trying to understand things with the most granularity possible and now their work was handed over to politicians consumed by things like petty grievances and career-advancement, vacuous men with an inability to understand the true scope of the power Oppenheimer had given them. It becomes literal when Strauss is convinced Einstein and Oppenheimer were talking about him and in fact they were talking about the end of the fricking world.
He really dragged down the movie. His scenes were all repetitious and why would he have a close staffer that constantly called him a piece of shit when his whole character is that he has thin skin?
Good point. I went to the wanting half the movie about how oppie got his clearance revoked and why Strauss got rejected for a cabinet level appointment. Bravo Nolan.
>first third of the movie
literally why do I care about this character being in the film >second third of the movie
almost non-existent >last third
suddenly determines everything and the plot shifts to just him
Also making the story shift back and forth and having the scenes that take place furthest in the timeline be in black and white for seemingly no reason other than to check it off the artsy oscar bait checklist was just strange
The black and white scenes are from the POV of Strauss, a mere mortal in a world of geniuses like Oppenheimer and Einstein, who see the word in its true colours, nuances, shades and all
Completely agree. And then the early Oppenheimer scenes being black and white also made it that much harder to follow.
The black and white scenes are from the POV of Strauss, a mere mortal in a world of geniuses like Oppenheimer and Einstein, who see the word in its true colours, nuances, shades and all
All the scenes where Oppenheimer himself was not present or not from his perspective were the black and white ones.
False. The scenes of young Oppenheimer studying outside of the US were black and white as well.
even the most important/intelligent people in the world, in the upper echelons of society where the big decisions are taken, have the same pettiness and small vices that you and I share; only amplified, multiplied exponentially and with bigger consequences for everybody
I think he gave Oppie what he had coming to him, presuming superiority and treating someone like a joke when they are just doing their job. I think the movie did well at showing that Oppenheimer was dogshit at respecting people even those closest to him, it was bound to hurt his career, this was just a very surprising way for it to happen.
he was everything oppenheimer wasnt >self made man >president at temple >didnt get to go to college like oppenheimer
most important of all he was a washington snake
The Einstein one was proven to be one of his narcissism kicking in. But then Oppe openly fought him during the round table and the tipping point was Oppe humiliated him during the isotope hearings. Oppenheimer is the butthole here.
Oppenheimer's first scene discussing Einstein says it all, the man had a really great idea 20 years before the current time and since then his ideas have propelled others forward and left him so far in the dust he might aswell not even be a scientist anymore
He's a doddering old man who just hangs around while other people take his ideas farther than he could have imagined, it's in character for him to just wander around while dressed like a hobo. That's the entire point of his last speech
Like, the whole debate about whether using the bombs was justified or not. At the end of the day, who cares? There is no "right" answer, it's just opinion, and people can sit there and uselessly debate it in college classes without really accomplishing anything. They WERE effective at ending the war, and that's all that mattered.
this movie did a really good job of making scientists seem kino af without even showing much, like Heisenberg just smiling and mutually complementing Oppie, then they announce later hes doing work for the nazis and hes made out to be this rogue science badass.
Yeah I really liked that aspect. Almost anime like with each scientist having their own different power levels and traits. Even Mr Miyagi burnout Einstein
I'm not gonna lie, I got filtered hard by the last third of the movie, it was insanely boring and I already knew about the history so there were no stakes
This
Every character in every movie should look directly into the camera and introduce themselves, then explain their motivations and indicate if they are good or bad
I literally have no idea of who's who in this movie when they start dropping names left and right. When they introduced Matthew Modine character as Bush I literally thought he was the president since he really looked similar to George W.
Yeah, movies should have the calendar date of when the scene is supposed to be taking place so we don’t get confused and think George Bush was a member of AEC when he was a teenager (or that he had travelled back in time as an old man)
Bush became President 30 years after Oppenheimer died
I know, right? When he appeared I was like 'uh oh Nolan what's happening here. Is this one of your mindfrickery game or what'. But no explanation until the end.
my midwit friend had to point out josh peck was in this, he thought the movie was decent, wanted more splosions, less dialog and to see Hiroshima get nuked. He did admire the acting and arrange of actors cast. I loved it but I figured I'd share my friend who is more normie's take, I'm betting he was lost in third act
my dad has great taste in music and movies and I've even gotten him to watch shit like Buffalo 66 or listen to Pavement but he still cannot get past Sopranos beyond ep 4 because of the early ep where Meadow uses meth I think
I was embarrassed to have seen it in a theater. And my theater had so many people. If it had been even a little bit worse I think I would’ve walked out. I get ill thinking about how bad it was.What is it that you have done here, Nolan? You tricked us into seeing a shit movie. Well take your shit movie and gtfo. And thats what I feel like.
So sad that Cinemaphile brainwashed your brain to the point of being unable to appreciate a masterpiece, which this movie is. It's clearly a masterpiece and you're moronic if you don't see why.
None. Strauss was a simple statesman dealing with the ego of an insane megalomaniac.
Another Hollywood midwit flick where the "bad guy" is way more simpathetic than the protagonist.
>"I gave him what he wanted. To be remembered for Trinity and not for Hirosima"
Yeah, he was too good for that. If anything, he was too nice for his own good.
standard neurosis
oppie and albert were talking shit behind his back I don't care what the movie said, fricking buttholes.
>two really, really smart people link up
>”oh they’re probably talking about me”
Huh?
he was just a spiteful neurotic moron
so he was a chud
I can’t speak for the real Lewis Strauss as I’m not that well versed on the history but I think movie Strauss was more a victim of his own inferiority complex than anything else. To be honest, who can blame him? He was placed on a commission presiding over nuclear energy and weapons when his background was in commerce and munitions production. When faced with the illustrious Julius Robert Oppenheimer he was eager to please him, running out the door of his own institute to greet him as he arrived, quickly dismissing his concerns over his problematic security files - Strauss clearly wanted to get along with Oppenheimer despite both the men’s flaws. It was only when JRO started enquiring into Strauss, the man, that he started to get cold feet.
The same scene that he is welcomed to the institute, JRO questions Strauss’ academic background he initially dodges the question before ‘admitting’ his background is in business. JRO remarks that he finds commonality between him and his “lowly shoe salesman” of a father - a remark probably meant in jest by the scientist but to the anxious admiral Strauss would have felt all too personal. He carried this quote all the way to the day of his senate hearing. Strauss was on the back foot from day one in this film, and being the shrewd competitive entrepreneur he was he needed a way to ‘prove’ to himself that he was the man who decided the steps the AEC would be taking.
In real life Strauss disliked Oppenheimer because he was a non-practicing israelite, while Strauss schemed his way through Washington anti-semitism all while remaining heavily involved with israeli affairs and organizations.
Everything after that moment was seen through that lens, even seemingly innocuous moments like being snubbed by the forlorn Einstein at the pond send Strauss on a downward spiral of paranoia and spite. Oppenheimer didn’t help his case however, he would often use his position to dismiss Strauss’ legitimate concerns over the Soviet nuclear weapons programme, and even humiliated him in public in incidents such as the debate on the export of isotopes to Norway, seemingly doing so without the prior counsel of the Strauss and the AEC at large. In Strauss’ mind, JRO not walking in step with the rest of the commission was both a personal affront to his prestige and a national security risk.
I don’t enjoy admitting this but I find it hard to hate Strauss for trying to smear Oppenheimer’s name, in his view it was a tit for tat exchange in a world where he was a fish out of water - many of you reading this would have done the same, or at least felt the same, in his shoes.
Although eventually succeeding in his schemes to discredit JRO, Strauss is left in an even more ruinous state when his schemes come to light as he has less fame to fall back on. I find it a shame to think that despite all of Strauss’ achievements in life and JRO’s many moral failings, the reaction to this film will cement both men’s legacies as the conflicted but brilliant scientist versus a nefarious, lowly shoe salesman.
Strauss is not the good guy here
I understand his concern but the nuclear bombs the world have created since Hiroshima and Nagasaki have been pointless
A waste of money and research and for what?
Strauss's only concern comes from what puts himself in a better position not what the country and world actually needs
Strauss was doing what was in the best interests of his country at the time, that being to provide effective deterrents against the USSR, who would have in all likelihood developed the H-bomb at some point and used its as leverage over the USA if they didn’t develop their own
And we get to Mutually Assured Destruction? How is that in the best interest of the country?
Mutually assured destruction is better than assured destruction of you don’t play by the USSR’s rules
Or you don't and realize that you've crossed a line and walk back
That's the point of the movie
Oppenheimer clearly realized the importance of the bomb but also that the world was made worse off for it
How are you going to convince power hungry politicians from the most powerful and cut throat countries in the world to give up the most powerful weapons ever? It’s a fool’s hope. They can’t even agree on climate change
The US proposed the ending of atomic weaponry in 1946 so it wasn't out of the question
A proposition and an agreement are two very different things, and agreements are often hardly worth the paper they’re printed on
The line was already crossed.
>Or you don't and realize that you've crossed a line and walk back
Are you moronic? The rest of the world do not play by those rules. If you have technology that can threaten an enemy nation, you use it to whatever advantage you can get out of it.
Every politician on both sides of the Cold War knew that MAD was inevitable but it was necessary in order to keep the other side in check. Realistically, they were never intended to be actually used on the enemy, only as a deterrent. It's not like future US presidents and Soviet leaders didn't know that nuclear war between the two would end humanity but when you don't trust the enemy, you have to make as many weapons in order to protect yourself from potential annihilation.
And btw, the only reason we even have nuclear missile treaties today (until the Ukranian war) was because one side collapsed and it was in everyone's interest to put away the bombs and cooperate.
This. The fricking atomic bomb would have been developed no matter what.
The first treaties were signed back in the 60s
The first attempt was in 46
The issue was always verification and once the ability to verify the nuclear arms race was reduced
I'm also not saying there was no excuse. Just that it's undeniable that the world is worse off because of the arms race and it was always unnecessary. But we don't live in a nice world. We live in the real world. I think that was the point behind the movie. It was always necessary and unnecessary at the same time
He realized the inevitability. Like a pre-modern man given an arrowhead, it presented an obvious conclusion. The A-bomb would be made, the Soviets would make their own. The arms race would proceed. He knew it. He always knew it, but played idly by
IMO, Strauss' concerns about the Soviets were legitimate, he just didn't feel the burden of responsibility for the lives lost in Hiroshima and Nagasaki that both Oppie and Truman did.
Strauss successfully blocked the planning proposal for Oppenheimer’s new home in Princeton after he retired from the Institute. Oppie was decrepit and close to dying at that stage. Strauss was just a bitter homosexual.
she had like a weird phase where she liked to make it look like she got beat up or had a bloody nose. shes kinda cute in a weird tomboy kinda way
Strauss get back in your grave buddy you’re not even a physicist
>Ayo, Albie. Ain't that homie look like Iron Man?
>Oh scheisse. Dast ist Irön Munch
IM NOT CRAZY
I KNOW YOU TURNED ALBERT AGAINST ME
That talk with Einstein! Are you telling me a hat just happens to fall like that? No! He orchestrated it! Oppie! He cucked Richard Tolman! And I saved him! I shouldn't have, I took him into my own comission!
>I KNOW YOU TURNED ALBERT AGAINST ME
I literally broke out laughing in the theater's when he said this.
It's like teenage girls.
it was like that in real life
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Strauss#Strauss_and_Oppenheimer
Politicians have the iq and eq of a teenager girl yes
Crazy how well the film fits itself to this
taking up an hour of an already 3 hour movie
He was an Einsteincel
He only thinks in black and white.
>felt nothing when the bomb dropped
>huge chills during his climatic rant in the 3rd act
bravo nolan
same, best part of the movie.
its amazing how many people were filtered by that kino third act
To me the whole point of the third act was that these were now the type of guys who held the fate of the world in their hands. Los Alamos was filled with big brains trying to understand things with the most granularity possible and now their work was handed over to politicians consumed by things like petty grievances and career-advancement, vacuous men with an inability to understand the true scope of the power Oppenheimer had given them. It becomes literal when Strauss is convinced Einstein and Oppenheimer were talking about him and in fact they were talking about the end of the fricking world.
Strauss going completely unhinged ranting with the blinds drawn cracked me the frick up
He really dragged down the movie. His scenes were all repetitious and why would he have a close staffer that constantly called him a piece of shit when his whole character is that he has thin skin?
Well you gotta know how Oppie got his clearance taken away, and it would almost be funny if it wasn't for such a pathetic reason from a pathetic man.
Good point. I went to the wanting half the movie about how oppie got his clearance revoked and why Strauss got rejected for a cabinet level appointment. Bravo Nolan.
It's part of the show
Oppenheimer gave America the bomb, ambitious people abused it and pushed him out of the way
japs
>first third of the movie
literally why do I care about this character being in the film
>second third of the movie
almost non-existent
>last third
suddenly determines everything and the plot shifts to just him
shouldn't have been so nonlinear
Also making the story shift back and forth and having the scenes that take place furthest in the timeline be in black and white for seemingly no reason other than to check it off the artsy oscar bait checklist was just strange
The black and white scenes are from the POV of Strauss, a mere mortal in a world of geniuses like Oppenheimer and Einstein, who see the word in its true colours, nuances, shades and all
All the scenes where Oppenheimer himself was not present or not from his perspective were the black and white ones.
Completely agree. And then the early Oppenheimer scenes being black and white also made it that much harder to follow.
False. The scenes of young Oppenheimer studying outside of the US were black and white as well.
>False. The scenes of young Oppenheimer studying outside of the US were black and white as well.
Bruh that's not true
I just watched the damn thing
even the most important/intelligent people in the world, in the upper echelons of society where the big decisions are taken, have the same pettiness and small vices that you and I share; only amplified, multiplied exponentially and with bigger consequences for everybody
I think he gave Oppie what he had coming to him, presuming superiority and treating someone like a joke when they are just doing their job. I think the movie did well at showing that Oppenheimer was dogshit at respecting people even those closest to him, it was bound to hurt his career, this was just a very surprising way for it to happen.
BECAUSE ROBERT MADE ALBERT GIVE ME A DIRTY LOOK ONE TIME
he was everything oppenheimer wasnt
>self made man
>president at temple
>didnt get to go to college like oppenheimer
most important of all he was a washington snake
>self made man
He was a literal nepo baby
a broke ass one
It was a LARP.
With all good country crashing subversives, one is expected in the wreckage.
The Einstein one was proven to be one of his narcissism kicking in. But then Oppe openly fought him during the round table and the tipping point was Oppe humiliated him during the isotope hearings. Oppenheimer is the butthole here.
The fact that it all happened in public in government settings proves it was a psyop.
>cab pulls away
>Einstein stumbling around outta nowhere
lmao
>that's our Einstein
It's the same place where they first met. They worked near each other at that time.
Thanks, tips; I mean the framing of the scene was funny
Yeah i didnt get this. Was Einstein moronic or something? I thought he was supposed to be smart but this movie portrayed him like a literal moron
Oppenheimer's first scene discussing Einstein says it all, the man had a really great idea 20 years before the current time and since then his ideas have propelled others forward and left him so far in the dust he might aswell not even be a scientist anymore
He's a doddering old man who just hangs around while other people take his ideas farther than he could have imagined, it's in character for him to just wander around while dressed like a hobo. That's the entire point of his last speech
I saw this with my Barbenheimer gf and we both laughed like morons at that scene. Genuinely felt like a jumpscare out of a horror movie
This mf using Twitter lingo
no shot
Einstein didn't really exist
Should have made Truman the main villain. Guy was a blue blooded mass murder who killed millions.
Making the main villain some random ass literal who teir politician is stupid.
Nolan did a good job of showing what massive c**t Truman was in just one short scene
The source material did it better
Truman was just a realist
He never felt like a guy who was interested in power
He just got shit done and didn't diddle daddle
Pretty much
Like, the whole debate about whether using the bombs was justified or not. At the end of the day, who cares? There is no "right" answer, it's just opinion, and people can sit there and uselessly debate it in college classes without really accomplishing anything. They WERE effective at ending the war, and that's all that mattered.
Oppenheimer scenes 7/10
Strauss scenes 4/10
Einstein scenes 11/10
I refuse to believe Lewis Strauss doesn't have some basic understanding of nuclear weapons and power if he's head of AEC.
Godel scene 11/10
his rant and monologue about how oppie was a crocodile tear wannabee martyr and how he planed his demise was absolute kino
being the best performance in the movie
Did one of Strauss' scenes leak online?
He was a lower class israelite and Oppenheimer called him a shoe maker aka lower than goy
He was there to show the mutually assured aspect of nuclear weapons. In the end booth he and Oppenheimer destroyed each others careers.
People who watch nolan movies should be killed on principle.
Take it easy man
Movie was so dense I'm actually wishing I can watch it again already
nolan may not be kubrick but he is one of the last directors who actually makes a real effort
my HS history teacher used to say Truman was the last honest president, feels like learning more about him has only vindicated this statement
>hmmm maybe this guy whose friends are all communists shouldn't have a clearance
Wow. Villainous
he wanted to bore the audience to death
apparently no one remembers Nolan saying the black and white scenes are 100% factual and the colored scenes are subjective history
Because he didn't say that.
this movie did a really good job of making scientists seem kino af without even showing much, like Heisenberg just smiling and mutually complementing Oppie, then they announce later hes doing work for the nazis and hes made out to be this rogue science badass.
Yeah I really liked that aspect. Almost anime like with each scientist having their own different power levels and traits. Even Mr Miyagi burnout Einstein
shut the frick up
Frick you
movies cant be 100% factual
I'm not gonna lie, I got filtered hard by the last third of the movie, it was insanely boring and I already knew about the history so there were no stakes
>nuking Japan was..... LE BAD!
Yeah lets just ignore the fact that afterwards Japan became an economic powerhouse and is one of the USAs best allies.
I literally couldn’t even tell you who this character was. The movie doesn’t explain who characters are and what their motivations were at all
This
Every character in every movie should look directly into the camera and introduce themselves, then explain their motivations and indicate if they are good or bad
I literally have no idea of who's who in this movie when they start dropping names left and right. When they introduced Matthew Modine character as Bush I literally thought he was the president since he really looked similar to George W.
Yeah, movies should have the calendar date of when the scene is supposed to be taking place so we don’t get confused and think George Bush was a member of AEC when he was a teenager (or that he had travelled back in time as an old man)
I know, right? When he appeared I was like 'uh oh Nolan what's happening here. Is this one of your mindfrickery game or what'. But no explanation until the end.
Bush became President 30 years after Oppenheimer died
Jesus anon Bush isn't that rare of a name
You already got extremely awkward cuts when they refer to a character, like 1 second insert shots that happens multiple times throughout the movie
What more do you want you butthole
Every time a new character was introduced there should've been a small pop-in text stating their name and profession like in a Hideo Kojima game
Has Kojima commented on Oppenheimer yet??
my midwit friend had to point out josh peck was in this, he thought the movie was decent, wanted more splosions, less dialog and to see Hiroshima get nuked. He did admire the acting and arrange of actors cast. I loved it but I figured I'd share my friend who is more normie's take, I'm betting he was lost in third act
Is your friend my dad?
my friend your dad both normies i'm sure but we still love them
Yes, of course.
my dad has great taste in music and movies and I've even gotten him to watch shit like Buffalo 66 or listen to Pavement but he still cannot get past Sopranos beyond ep 4 because of the early ep where Meadow uses meth I think
israeli
I was embarrassed to have seen it in a theater. And my theater had so many people. If it had been even a little bit worse I think I would’ve walked out. I get ill thinking about how bad it was.What is it that you have done here, Nolan? You tricked us into seeing a shit movie. Well take your shit movie and gtfo. And thats what I feel like.
its literally one of the best movies to come out in recent years, sorry you got filtered
It was mid bro, it was a sentimental israeli eulogy of a truly evil man
>truly evil man
thanks for confirming you're peak midwit
I can see your yarmulke from here Chaim
This. I watched Barbie right after this movie ended and oh boy did it save my day.
So sad that Cinemaphile brainwashed your brain to the point of being unable to appreciate a masterpiece, which this movie is. It's clearly a masterpiece and you're moronic if you don't see why.
help a brotha out, i need that tweet about a pajeet feeling all smart about having liked Oppenheimer
He nationalised world peace.
nolan's next movie: how the moon was made
He is a latent homosexual and he was lusting for Oppenheimer. Read Freud if you want to know more
None. Strauss was a simple statesman dealing with the ego of an insane megalomaniac.
Another Hollywood midwit flick where the "bad guy" is way more simpathetic than the protagonist.
You will never get a cabinet position
>"I gave him what he wanted. To be remembered for Trinity and not for Hirosima"
Yeah, he was too good for that. If anything, he was too nice for his own good.
Oppie got the Pughssy, strauss got nothing
he knew a man who fell for pugh breasts would be unreliable
He thought he was the main character and everything was about him
very relatable
He’s literally me
Guys why was the central drama just a 2 hour interrogation into whether he's a commie or not?
Like I can understand it being a oart of the story, but it's literally all that happened
You can sum up anything like that, the film showed pretty much the majority of his adult professional life
Because it's a boring story with fission the only thing interesting about it and Nolan made it even more boring. Bravo Nolan.
You tell me: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Strauss
Which director, living or dead, could do Gravity's Rainbow justice and how
Daniel Knauf
it would need to be a miniseries
I like, I like
oppenheimer insulted him a little bit, he was a little out of order himself
Castle Bravo movie when
I feel like people are totally filtered by this flick. The entire movie was about how oppenheimer was a total coward and hypocrite
Just because you desperately want to see it that way doesn't mean that's what the movie was doing
>I'm a, a spoke on a wheel. And so was he, and so are you.