what the frick was the message of the movie?

what the frick was the message of the movie?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Stop making this thread

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      what

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      No shit, why is it always the same fricking threads on this site?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        because we're in hell.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Piss off gay

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        No u

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Have sex with black women.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >WHITE PEOPLE...LE BAD

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    black people are justified in whatever wrong thing they do.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >black people are justified in whatever wrong thing they do.
      This is the message. The entire thing is just "How dare you ask me to do the right thing? How dare you assume there is even a right thing to begin with? Asking me to do anything is an unreasonable burden!"

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    less than 30 minutes after his boss says he thinks of mookie like a son, mookie throws a trash can through his boss window, incites a riot and gets the place burnt down. then goes back to ask for his paycheck the next day. wtf am i supposed to take away from this

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      To never relax.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The movie is unintentionally a brutal redpill. And to Asians almost as much as whites.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Seriously what it felt like when I first saw it. Also
          >"My first experience [with doing nude scenes] was Do the Right Thing. And I had a big problem with it, mainly because I was afraid of what my family would think — that’s what was really bothering me. It wasn’t really about taking off my clothes. But I also didn’t feel good about it because the atmosphere wasn’t correct. And when Spike Lee puts ice cubes on my nipples, the reason you don’t see my head is because I’m crying. I was like, I don’t want to do this."
          lol

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Stupid b***h signed up to do a nude scene, then whined about it. Foids have the brains of children.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              the industry would've ruined her life if she backed out last moment. not trying to say that she isn't at fault for putting herself in that position in the first place, but the entertainment industry is brutal and expect people to do whatever they want them to.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Exactly. Phrased another way, don't make us mad or else. As if we weren't aware.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Mookie said himself that the insurance would cover it. Also he gave back the extra money Sal threw at him.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        can i burn your house down? insurance will cover it. fricking idiot

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          If a pack of Black folk is outside your house rioting would you rather them burn your house down or kill you and your two sons? Mookie saved his ass by throwing that trash can.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I'd rather they did neither, thanks.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Also he gave back the extra money Sal threw at him
        No, he keeps it. Mookie throws it back, they argue for a bit, then he picks it up and leaves

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I'm pretty sure he picks it up then says, "I owe you $50" or something like that

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            He says that as he throws it back, but he keeps it in the end.

            ?t=167

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Insurance will cover it! Everything we do is okay because the government and private corporations will pour endless resources to prevent society from eradicating us!
        Black person logic

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    why does spike lee call his movies “joints”

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It’s a black male thing bit like how they all frick trannies on the down low

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Narcissism.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Yt pi po bad

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It’s okay for Black folk to burn down white people’s businesses and homes, destroy their property, and randomly assault them because wypipo be racist n shieet and the real villain is our white supremacist society. Pretty soon they’ll start breaking into white people’s homes and killing them in the middle of the night, or just randomly shoot them in the middle of the street, and it’ll be ok because the real problem is bigoted institutions and on the inside he was just a gentle giant and they need more welfare so they don’t have to turn to crime. But it’s okay remember, because as a white person you’re responsible for racism and so this is what you deserve for the sins of your ancestors.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/vrKomBW.png

      what the frick was the message of the movie?

      It goes a step further than assault. Radio Raheem was going to murder Sal if the cops hadn't stopped him, and every black person in the movie was cheering it on, even pulling away Sal's sons as they tried to save his dad's life.

      less than 30 minutes after his boss says he thinks of mookie like a son, mookie throws a trash can through his boss window, incites a riot and gets the place burnt down. then goes back to ask for his paycheck the next day. wtf am i supposed to take away from this

      That's Spike Lee's message (also the message of BlacKkKlansman, which took it to an even more absurd degree). All whites are racist: even Sal, the least racist white man possible (who, privately, tries to persuade his son not to be racist) is a secret racist underneath. And based on the movie, any racism, saying a mere word, is deserving of death. If all whites are racist, and all racists deserve to be killed, then...?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >If all whites are racist, and all racists deserve to be killed, then..
        All Black folks to be oven'd by the argument of Utilitarianism

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >And based on the movie, any racism, saying a mere word, is deserving of death.
        which is funny considering just mere seconds before dropping the N bomb, Gus calls Sal a Guinea, which he knew would set him off.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          It's not racist if it's done to whitey
          I couldn't believe I had to watch that shit as part of a Film Studies course, but I guess it balances out us watching Birth of a Nation on the big screen

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >>what did spike lee mean by these three talking about no black businesses
        >What he meant was
        people bad because redlining n shieeeet
        Jews redline. They own everything. Think deeper.

        Italians were not white, Sicilians definitely were not white, those pictures on the wall are pre-honorary whitehood. Sal's parents were forced into that neighborhood as a form of racial purgatory. Sal's boys are free to leave. Mookie and his people can never leave... but Rosie Perez's people might.

        Spike Lee sees israelites as white. In fact, BlacKkKlansman ends with the ludicrous notion (subtly done, so most viewers missed it) that a israeli guy, who was almost killed by the KKK multiple times while infiltrating them, would voluntarily go back and re-infiltrate the KKK, risking death yet again, just because he's a secret racist who hates blacks THAT MUCH. After spending the movie up until then helping blacks. Once again, Spike Lee maintains that even the most innocent and anti-racist white person is secretly an evil and irredeemable racist.

        Again, this was subtly done, most audience members didn't pick up that it was Adam Driver in the KKK robes at the end. Even Spike Lee probably knew that most people would balk at his argument.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Nah it won't get to that point, white people (in America at least) have too many guns to make that viable. If any whites do get killed, it will be shitheel "allies" that voted this shit in anyway, so no real harm.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        M8 most of your country is occupied by limp wristed gun hating liberals homosexuals that bend the knee to Black folk but keep smoking the copium and living in fantasy land

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        it already is happening to those who relax

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        What baloney. You already had people arrested for defending their property. You talk a big game but immediately surrender when the police show up.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    don't live around Black folk

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Do the right thing

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody is 100% good or 100% bad. It's hard to know what the right thing is to do. Did anyone do the right thing? Hard to tell.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Nobody is 100% good or 100% bad. It's hard to know what the right thing is to do. Did anyone do the right thing? Hard to tell.
      This is a common misinterpretation of the message. Spike Lee's comments IRL make emphatically clear that in his view, none of the black characters in this movie did anything wrong (except for the "uncle tom" character who doesn't want them to burn down the pizzeria).
      The message is "white people are bad for ever asking black people to do the right thing."

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        This is true but Lee is an actual moron and therefore all his opinions can be ignored. That being said Do The Right Thing is a pretty good film despite the creator's moronism.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I don't even know what the "message" of Do the Right Thing was meant to be; it's just a funny movie that's basically just two hours of shitty race relations.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        You and I are probably the ones that had this same conversation the last time this movie came up.
        Every character has a scene where they do something bad, even Da Mayor.
        Every character has a scene where they do something good, even Pino and the cops.
        You gave some link to what you base your "Spike Lee's comments" remark on, and it didn't say what you said it said.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Spike Lee’s comments have ruined this movie. It went from a vision of complex race relations and racism from all sides to “Black folk can do literally anything and it’s always THE RIGHT THING”. He fricking contextualized the film into pure propaganda and made it unwatchable in todays day and age where Black folk are worshipped like a god

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Not the other guy but I disagree, I watched it for the first time recently and it’s a fantastic movie (joint) in its own right in addition to being retroactively prophetic. Lee’s comments, whatever they are, don’t matter because the film’s content speaks for itself, as others have mentioned it’s seemingly quite self aware with the redpills

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              It's redpilling without really being very self aware. Even American History X seems like it understands what it's actually conveying better than that shit does. "Black people destroy shit and harm themselves and others" isn't complex. Spike Lee tries to convey it as a positive, that the narcissism, sadism, and xenophobia is "the right thing" because they're being true to themselves, but someone neutral watching it just goes "Wow, everyone in this movie is a horrible person." The movie may have succeeded from a cinematography standpoint, but it failed miserably at getting Spike's point across.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        true, but lee has coped and changed what the message is a few dozen times. You can't trust him to interpret his own work, as kino as that work my be.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >It's hard to know what the right thing is to do. Did anyone do the right thing? Hard to tell.
      in the film's case it is extremely easy

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The biggest mistake White Americans ever made was slavery, the second was ending it

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >The biggest mistake White Americans ever made was slavery
      White Americans weren't the ones who did it...

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Don't be so dishonest mutt

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >t. JIDF

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        epic meme bud

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    what did spike lee mean by these three talking about no black businesses, and the fact that all black people do is talk about making money but never actually do it

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >what did spike lee mean by these three talking about no black businesses
      What he meant was
      >White people bad because redlining n shieeeet

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >>what did spike lee mean by these three talking about no black businesses
        >What he meant was
        people bad because redlining n shieeeet
        Jews redline. They own everything. Think deeper.

        Italians were not white, Sicilians definitely were not white, those pictures on the wall are pre-honorary whitehood. Sal's parents were forced into that neighborhood as a form of racial purgatory. Sal's boys are free to leave. Mookie and his people can never leave... but Rosie Perez's people might.

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    That da bleck mayne wuz kangz n sheeit and da whyte man is rayciss and dont seesin dey foo

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    That if you are near Black folk you have to accept you will be their victim

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    heat makes you do dumb shit

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    it's the fricking title you dumb Black person

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    That you should do the right thing. It's right there in the title, anon.

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >white people BAD

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >what the frick was the message of the movie?
    Thank God for the right nipple. Thank God for the left nipple.
    /fin

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    unrelated question but where does "joint" fall on the kino > cinema > movie > flick hierarchy?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      movie > joint > flick

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    DINDU NUFFIN

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Italian store owner in majority black neighborhood harmlessly celebrates his heritage on the store wall
    >Ethnonarcissists show up to his pizza shop with a boom box blasting "Fight the Power" and threatening him for not putting up MLK on his wall
    >Italian guy snaps and goes gamer word on the ethnonarcissists
    >The trigger word sends his black employee into a frenzy and he helps burn down the pizza shop after the owner treated him with nothing but kindness
    >Entire neighborhood throws a party that the evil oppressive pizza shop with Rocky Marciano and Frank Sinatra on the walls is gone
    >Movie ends with everyone going "Well, now what? This neighborhood still sucks" without a hint of self-awareness
    Spike Lee is a black supremacist moron and the movie's a redpill that unironically predicted what happened in 2020 and gives you an eye into the mind of your average wokelet and just how toxic the mindset is

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Space dock with men

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    That Black folk will riot over something ss simple as pictures on a wall

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      They unironically rioted at a diner and tried to extort the owner for half a million dollars because he had a dish named "The General Lee" on the menu

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    the message is that whites shouldn't bother helping blacks

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    kek it literally says it on the screen at the end moron

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The message is to do the right thing, which Mookie didn't do in the end when he had to.

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Black folk are pathetic and are not worth a pile of dogshit drying on the street without a whiteman to 'gibsmedat' from.

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Sal blurts out Black person only when he's pushed to his limit and was himself called a racial slur but no matter how much good he's done for the community it doesn't matter because he said the naughty word so that means he can have his livelihood destroyed, leaving the community in a far worse place than it was before
    Spike Lee doesn't realize he made a movie that perfectly encapsulates black fragility

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Not just having his livelihood destroyed. The movie endorses Radio Raheem's attempt to murder Sal, cheered on and enabled by all the other black characters.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >cheered on and enabled by all the other black characters.
        The movie isn't saying they weren't being pieces of shit and that Raheem wasn't also a thug, just that they all collectively sided with him because of in-group preference. Mookie literally probably saved Sal's life with the Mayor by distracting the moronic mob.

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Mookie makes another appearance in the 2012 film Red Hook Summer, where he is shown delivering pizzas. According to Lee, Sal took the insurance money from his burned pizzeria and reopened the restaurant in Red Hook. He then rehired Mookie, agreeing to include Black celebrities on his Wall of Fame.

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Don't live in New York

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The funniest thing about this movie is that every single (white) person who saw it came to the conclusion that racism is a two-way street and both whites and blacks must work together in earnest to end it.
    Then Spike Lee screamed about how they got it wrong and that only whites can be racist and the blacks were in the right. It's one of those movies where Death of the Author should be in full effect.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      agreed. that's why i don't care what an author thinks about his works years later. cause sometimes authors turn into hacks who will deny their work's depth in order to pander to their ingroup. its pathetic.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Just like white people thought the Civil Rights Act was supposed to end racial discrimination and lead to everyone being treated as individuals, and black people saw it as a way to create pro-black policies and advance the black race

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Spike Lee said that when Do The Right Thing came out, a lot of critics thought it irresponsible to show Mookie throw a trash can through the window of Sal's pizzeria bc it would encourage riots, but they had far less to say about the cops choking Radio Raheem to death
    Thoughts?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      A racist Black person with no self awareness.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Radio Raheem tried to kill Sal, not to mention he was borderline moronic and incapable of functioning in society

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Guy that incites murder and mayhem dies from getting what he wants
      >This is comparable to a guy getting his livelihood ruined and having a mob try to murder him over having a 3x5 of Dean Martin by his counter
      Spike's a moronic black supremacist, we know

  35. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >NOOOOOOO YOU MUST PUT UP PICTURES OF BLACK PEOPLE IN YOUR ITALIAN-AMERICAN RESTAURANT
    was it really that big of a deal to walk into a restaurant and not see black people being celebrated? how arrogant and fragile do you have to be to live like this?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The character who incites the whole thing and indirectly gets Radio Raheem killed is literally called “Buggin Out.” He’s portrayed as an obnoxious black activist who no one takes seriously and is a huge pussy (stepping on Jordans scene.) The movie shows that these people are shitheads, and as

      Radio Raheem tried to kill Sal, not to mention he was borderline moronic and incapable of functioning in society

      said Raheem is basically a moron

  36. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not American and the dialogue around this whole movie is fascinating. After I finished watching it, I looked up the trashcan scene on Youtube and the comments there blew my mind. People there unironically saying that Sal or the Asians should have done more to show that they are not racist. Not the black people who were more violent/threatening/hostile towards them but the non Black people who were way less racist. And apparently Spike Lee agrees? It seems that even in 1989, Black people were mocking/testing white people to see how much they could push the envelope of "apologize, Whitey!"

    It captured comfy 80s vibe pretty well tho

    Also, it's funny how the actor for Buggin Out delivered picrel lines with a straight face 30 years later.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Welcome to race relations in America
      The only thing Spike did right was predict what would happen 30 years later, even if he didn't anticipate the corporate apparatus and suburban white women being behind a lot of it

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Well, you seem to have gotten a pretty accurate depiction of what living around black Americans is like, so at least someone got something out of it.

  37. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    around blax never relax

  38. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    That hot weather turns everyone into morons. Bakes their brains.

  39. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >He has the RIGHT to do what he wants with his place. The problem is, was it the RIGHT choice to display nothing but white celebs in an all BLACK neighborhood, where the people wanted at least one representation of them? Just because you have the right to do something of your choice doesn't mean you make the right decisions. Many people confuse that today. The lesson here is, be smart about the choices you make...
    Whoever wrote this votes and breathes your air btw

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      my vote gets canceled by a dead person anyway

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Why can't black people be more tolerant of other people and cultures?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Where the hell are these from lol?

  40. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The fricking Black folk even try to burn and loot the korean store for no reason. I'm convinced everything Spike Lee has said about this movie after the fact was just trying to save face.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      They should have done the right thing and not been Korean in a black neighborhood

  41. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Spike Lee has remarked that only white viewers ask him if Mookie did the right thing; black viewers do not ask the question.
    >Lee believes the key point is that Mookie was angry at the wrongful death of Radio Raheem, stating that viewers who question the riot are explicitly failing to see the difference between damage to property and the death of a black man.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >B-but it's just LE PROPERTY
      For most of America, property is a means of making a living. And that is their entire life

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >the wrongful death
      Motherfricker he was trying to murder a dude.

  42. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >20 years later they still ask why mookie threw the trash can and not why the police killed radio raheem
    >some people are understandably concerned about sal’s pizzeria, but are failing to to compare a lost life over a restaurant

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      People know police are a bunch of power tripping thugs, for whatever reason it hasn't sunk in how black people are just as bad about power tripping and senseless violence

  43. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    So, did Mookie try to save Sal's life or did he just ape out?

  44. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'm tired of quoting the braindead comments. You should witness it yourself.

  45. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I heckin love insurance

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >In my father's day, the American Dream used to mean something
      You also legally couldn't become an American citizen if you weren't a white person

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Batman is a Black person?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Notice how there are no people whose life matter

  46. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >The point is that we sympathise with both. Both are mostly good people, who have done some good things, and some bad things. Both have experienced loss - Mookie with Raheem, and Sal with his restaurant. But only one of them can be restored

  47. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >It says a lot about the person watching if they are more mad at Raheem’s death or the property. Which are you more mad about? That is the one you care about more. Sadly more people are concerned about the property than a loss of life.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      raheem had one mildly interesting moment but was a confrontational c**t at every other interaction, for no apparent reason. he got choked to death while trying to choke someone to death. i'm supposed to feel bad about him?

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