Read a paper about them finding pulled apart bones on a beach near Fiji or something, in the sand was some articles that Amelia was known to carry. Make up etc.
The paper theorized that in the crash she was pretty beat up and laid on the beach to rest, which is when the coconut crabs come out at night. They tore her apart.
just push it away lol
they ate her corpse. even fucked up from a crash I think you could defend yourself unless it was like a swarm of them.
even then they're pretty skittish
>Make up etc.
This is so dumb. There is clutter and bullshit over pretty much every Pacific island, especially after WWII. The dumb natives make a religion out of it (read about "cargo cults"). They also are notoriously protein deprived so cannibalism is not uncommon. Those bones could be any random savage. The most promising forensic lead they ever had on Amelia ending up going missing while in custody. For whatever reason, somebody doesn't want us to know what happened to her.
>The Japanese Army captured her, said "Hello" to her a few dozen times, and got rid of the corpse.
This is a rumor that started due to a photo but it was demonstrated to be a fake.
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True, it was probably more like "Herro!, prease to rape you!"
Region was swarming with twitchy rapemonkeys.
Coconut crabs are scavengers/swarm animals. They'll eat any and everything. Amelia Earhart's last known location was an area crawling with coconut crabs. People have found all kinds of bones from different species near coconut crab spots. Popular theory is she crashed and they tore apart and ate whatever was left
It's amazing that humans haven't hunted these things to extinction yet. You would think it would be our priority, considering how terrifying that are. I won't even enlarge the picture.
Crabs are based retards and the bigger the crab the cooler it is. I'm more surprised coconut crabs haven't been hunted to extinction for being delicious crustaceans you don't have to go to the bottom of the sea to catch.
Read a paper about them finding pulled apart bones on a beach near Fiji or something, in the sand was some articles that Amelia was known to carry. Make up etc.
The paper theorized that in the crash she was pretty beat up and laid on the beach to rest, which is when the coconut crabs come out at night. They tore her apart.
>crabs tearing apart anything that isn't already dead
They could have processed her corpse once it had softened up some but the rest is an underage rekt enthusiast's fanfic.
>Coconut crabs? Those things are scary. Iirc they were the things that ate Amelia Airheart
That's just one theory. In reality, they have scarcely little evidence of what happened. A skeleton was found at one point on some island but it miraculously vanished before definitive examination could be performed.
Anon...crabs, lobsters etc are bottom feeders and eat everything, including dead bodies. Those crabs you eat at the restaurant probably ate some dead sailor.
>Those crabs you eat at the restaurant probably ate some dead sailor.
That would seem extremely unlikely given very few people drown while millions of crabs are served yearly.
Zero evidence of that. They found a skeleton on an island once and it vanished. One guy thinks he saw a plane half-submerged but it disappeared and they never went back to do extensive searches. For whatever reason, there isn't a strong motivation to find out what happened, probably because nothing good would come of it. The best possible ending is one that would leave little to no evidence.
Not really, we know she went down near the illegal Japanese naval bases, which means we can safely surmise she was captured, gang raped and murdered.
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>which means we can safely surmise she was captured, gang raped and murdered.
I think you're vastly underestimating what it takes to "safely surmise" things.
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Seems like you know nothing about Amelia Earhart and less than that about the Japanese.
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>Seems like you know nothing about Amelia Earhart
That's literally what i've been trying to tell you. We don't know what happened and there's basically zero evidence. What has been found has disappeared.
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Maybe you don't. We know roughly where she went down, but you'd rather pretend she could be anywhere in the Pacific from the Aleutians to Antarctica.
i live on (one of the only) islands that still has coconut crabs.
I want to catch a small one and keep it as an attack crab but they take many years to reach full size/maturity.
I think if I get a big one, it won't domesticate well and will attack me instead of just intruders.
this is my big hang up, get a small crab as investment and take care of it for years before it can slay my enemies, or just go find a big one and then that section of my yard is off limits to even myself?
Yea, to my surprise
I figure since its a land crab they would taste like trash but they're decent. They keep em in 5gal home depot buckets here with a coconut+the crab in em at a lot of the restaurants
They're nearly hunted to extinction so I don't know how exactly they're allowed to serve them when they're protected but they all do anyway
>They're nearly hunted to extinction so I don't know how exactly they're allowed to serve them
Based zoomer who doesn't know the world works exactly opposite the way you were taught by your lefty teachers and peers. The way you save an animal from extinction is you make it food for humans then you pay "greedy" capitalist right winger white male ranchers to raise them as food. *Poof* Your nearly exinct animal is now valuable and brought back from the brink.
Lol I'm not against farming them or a Zoomer
I'm pretty sure the ones they're serving are wild caught. There are no coconut crab farms here far as I'm aware and they probably take a decade to be eating size anyway so I assume the ones in restaurants are "poached".
They'll never be truly extinct on this island because the air force has like 30% of the land and they don't allow people to go into the jungle there and hunt endangered crabs
While we're at it I want sea turtles to be dropped from the endangered list. Fucking rats of the ocean. I've lived on a dozen different beaches in my life and sea turtles are everywhere at all of them so far. Fucking speed bumps
The turtles must be some sort of funding scheme for marine biologists >Uh yeah we need $150k extra in the budget next year for sea turtle tracking devices because there's just so few of them!
hi, as a zoomed can you explain why you have a compulsion to put "wild" in front of anything that doesn't happen inside a building.
those used to be the default, so I wonder whether you are the first generation to be bred entirely in captivity to the point where anything outside is "wild".
see: >wild walking/swimming/skating/breathing
have you ever gone for a piss outside, did you call it wild pissing, and will I soon see an article titled "why wild pissing might actually be beneficial".
thanks in advance
>why didn't ranchers in the 19th century plant a bunch of forests to make this wild animal a commercially viable food product
I was obviously talking about modern commercial livestock practices, not ye olde pre-conservation era hunting to extinction, you pedantic gay. What are you gonna bring up next to get a smug retort? The Woolly Mammoth?
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And you don't think environmental practices are in any way a thing that humans are directly responsible for right? Because there's of course been no extinctions from mass deforestation or monoculture right? you fucking pedant coward
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That seems kind of unrelated to the original topic anon. He's just explaining why being able to sell bison meat as food helps them not go extinct.
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what he said was that human appetite for meat is saving animals from extinction, which is in fact retarded. additionally, it's not quite the own it could be when conservationists actually care about nature, not the dna sequence that is a bison, so this whole farmed = saved schtick is pretty specious
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>environmental >monoculture
Fuck off. Indians destroyed more species than modern, western, white nations ever could and they would absolutely rape their local environments. Capitalism + modern conservation is the best thing that could happen to species preservation. Commercialize the fuck out of them all. You gays just want to play your fiddles as the world burns and feel smug and morally superior about it all because you're demoralized atheists who believe in nothing.
Your post doesn't even make any sense. How could you do what I'm suggesting without taking responsibility for your practices? You can't. Obviously you develop best practices. They learned that with the dust bowl.
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Capitalism has nothing to do with conservation and plunders the world. It will only farm animals when it becomes more economical to do that than take them from the wild, which for most species is never.
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>Farmers eat their seed corn. They just do, ok?!?! >Stop defending them!
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So do we need better environmental practices to fix things, or do we get rid of them because they're the problem? Answer this without thinking about left vs right.
>They're nearly hunted to extinction so I don't know how exactly they're allowed to serve them
Based zoomer who doesn't know the world works exactly opposite the way you were taught by your lefty teachers and peers. The way you save an animal from extinction is you make it food for humans then you pay "greedy" capitalist right winger white male ranchers to raise them as food. *Poof* Your nearly exinct animal is now valuable and brought back from the brink.
Also why is it called "Animal conservation" if the initiatives end up keeping numbers low?
what do you think the word conservation means? is it called animal propagation? animal proliferation? the goal is to conserve the natural world and natural state of things, not fill the world with pandas. ironic honestly that conservatives tend to be the ones not to understand
it's when you hire someone (non-actor at times) who wouldn't ordinarily be considered for roles, sometimes one that fits their real-life identity. like the scene in reno 911 where carrot top is staying at a hotel and the cops are called due to him behaving like a madman and firing a gun repeatedly
Hermit Crabs (and Coconut Crabs by extension) tend to be very friendly animals, and far more intelligent than you expect in your head. They can get used to people, have distinct personalities, and so on.
I don't see them eating Amelia alive, unless she was so badly mangled to the point where she would've died in an hour anyways. Just acting unfriendly to these creatures is enough to scare them away.
>While the coconut crab itself is not innately poisonous, it may become so depending on its diet, and cases of coconut crab poisoning have occurred.[55][56] For instance, consumption of the sea mango, Cerbera manghas, by the coconut crab may make the coconut crab toxic due to the presence of cardiac cardenolides.
Weird how the poison mango don't kill the crab.
There's a guy at one of the tourist attractions here that keeps a fairly large one on a leash so Korean/Japanese tourists can take a picture with it.
He doesn't even rubber band it's claws and afaik it's never attacked anyone.
Crab gets exposed to hundreds of people a night (pre-covid) so I guess it's just used to it and stays friendly
If le man is so evil why do these things still exist? It's like those fucking pandas, sloths or koalas. How many dollars go into making 2 pandas fuck each other? What the hell dude? Are they autistic? We humans we fuck even watermelons. And those pandas get even depressed. This world should be made of European men, Asian woman, cows, pigs, dogs, cats and plants. That's it. All the rest of beings, gtfo.
>Myleene Klass has been blasted after claiming to have released a rat-eating crab in Hampstead Heath, London.
>Wildlife experts have discussed how harmful releasing the crab - the biggest in the world that can grow up to 3ft and feed on rats - could be because a 'non-native species' should not be free to roam in the UK.
Its got to be pretty fast to eat rats. If its just one, theres really no harm in it though. It will just be an urban legend among the rat community of a monster that eats them, but will eventually die off with nothing to fuck
Invasive species are weird. The NA grey squirrel is replacing the native European red squirrel in the UK because it carries some plague the WILL horribly kill any red squirrel it comes across. Grey squirrels are much bigger and are actual nuisance that can fuck up trees unlike the smaller reds, so some Bongs have taken upon themselves to eradicate the invaders with traps. Some nature "lovers" give them shit for that lol
People got mad when we started culling feral cats and rabbits in Australia even though they fucking decimate our native animals
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Not to mention NSW giving feral horses protections in Kosciuszko National Park because of the bleeding heart boomers and horse girls despite the fact they fuck up the delicate landscape
there was a chap in the news ten years past who'd been conscripted by the local government to eliminate grey squirrels by means of air rifle.
he managed ten thousand in a year.
if only they had ten thousand men doing the same for the other highly invasive species from india and africa.
>a 'non-native species' should not be free to roam in the UK.
This Communist idea of nature being static and unchanging has only been around since the 1950s, what kind of cultural black swan event is required to reverse its damages?
>it's not ok to release a slow-ass vermin-eating crab in London >it's very ok to release thousands of muslim immigrant rapists in London
Why are Europistanis like this?
Its the main theory based on the an experiment when some scientists left pig carcasses out and the crabs stripped the flesh and scattered the bones in a matter of hours
>Aristotle was interested in the relationships between predator and prey, competition for dominance within a species, migration, hibernation, symbiosis (e.g., the pinna-mussel soon dies when deprived of its defender, a small pinn-guard crab). He observed the reciprocity of all living things.
would be cool to try and feed it to keep it alive until it regrew its limbs, but it would probably die anyway. Animals can regrow limbs but it takes a lot out of them
No. What Christ offers you is available to you now, this very moment and requires you to do nothing but accept him as your Lord and Savior. No "build it and he will come".
>Yet it has also been suggested that the species was rare prior to 1492, and that the subsequent increase in their numbers may be due to the decrease in the Native American population (who, as well as hunting the birds, competed with them for mast) caused by European immigration, and the supplementary food (agricultural crops) the immigrants imported
Noooooo... not my heckin' noble savage myth.
but if you're cool with oblivion, eternal darkness/unbearable separation from your creator, or burning in hellfire, which i think are three popular interpretations of a non-saved persons afterlife(?) then nothing i guess
>Bisons went nearly extinct, and we bred them back to secure levels so yes, propagating a species' numbers to stability is literally what conservation means in this context
You only view breeding as a viable option once there's literally only 2 left, ask yourself, is this REALLY a good idea for sustaining a species' population?
conservationists are fighting to conserve nature, not a species' genome. if we had a million sea turtles in cages do you think conservationists would be clapping for mission accomplished? the bison and the sea turtle really have very few direct parallels, i'm not sure why you're being obtuse
conservation means reintroducing wolves into the forest to cull the deer to move things towards a more natural biome, not farming 100k bison in a shed in the midwest somewhere. i get that some people like things to be simple and black and white, but some things have so much nuance to them that no one person can comprehend it, ie nature the natural world and it's intertwined mechanisms. conservationists are fighting to preserve nature before we destroy it, because the cost of repair is infinitely greater than the cost of conservation. only shortsighted apes don't understand this intuitively.
>Conservationists are fighting to preserve nature
Can you name ONE time, besides certain bugs, fish, tortoises, and reptiles, that a single species on earth has lived and lasted forever without it merely being luck of the draw?
Yes, adults that believe "Nature" has remained totally static and unchanged since the day the Earth was first formed, despite the fact that species such as dinosaurs, wooly mammoths, and countless others have been lost to natural cataclysms long before our intervention, and that these cataclysm events also drastically changed the planet's own natural biomes and the evolution of our plant life
imagine arguing for a cataclysm... obviously bad things have happened and will always happen, we're fighting to prevent that as much as possible. this blazé attitude of "well bad things happened then and the planet got on just fine" is peak ape brain. we are trying to mitigate the concequences of our impact on the globe, specifically to prevent a cataclysm like youre describing and the untold human suffering it would cause. read aasimov foundations this isnt a new idea
You can't stop me from arguing for one. My argument is that yoru vciew of nature is creationist, as a truly unchanging nature would still have Dinosaurs, Wooly Mammoths, and Eurypterids roaming our world alive and well
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we don't want nature to change when it would negatively impact us, simple as. of course nature isnt unchanging, but the systems we have in place now are destructive and will ultimately be self destructive once our impact on nature catches up with us. lots of ancient civilizations fell because they lacked an understanding of their impact on the environment, ie easter island or mesopotamia
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>when it would negatively impact us
But when Nature is fully being controlled by humans and monitored for the sake of making it more accessible and appealing to humanity, it's no longer "nature", instead it's a fake, human-defined simulation of nature, it's a full-on rejection of humans being products of natural evolution. I halfway expect hardline environmentalists to believe Humans didn't biologically exist until the year 1800
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when nature is fully controlled by intelligent forces like something out of ringworld then you're right, but as it is now humanity is very much just along for the ride. we're still being btfo by strong winds and our greatest feats of engineering fail all the time. if we destroy our planet before we gather the knowledge and resources to either save it or escape it then it's obvious that's not good, who cares if it's natural or not
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>when nature is fully controlled by intelligent forces like something out of ringworld then you're right,
But this is the end-all-be-all goal of all of conservationism
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No, you imbecile, conservationism wants to preserve nature the way it is
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Just imagine how our descendants would react to what we do now, they'd be disgusted at our attempts at eradicating evolution out of a need for Nature to retain a certain aesthetic
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Just imagine how your descendents would react to your feeble attempts at baiting
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nah man we aren't eradicating evolution we're just doing our best to mitigate our impact on it. it's like a star trek thing youknow?
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>we're just doing our best to mitigate our impact on it
Ask yourself would any far-future intelligent species even know that we existed, if we decided our global purpose in life was to hide every piece of evidence that we existed?
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i dont give a fuck what they would know, the actions we take are a direct result of our desire to mitigate our current and future suffering, not hide every piece of our existence. the fact you think youve got it all figured out and it's the rest of the world who is arrogantly trying to overstep their bounds within the natural order is peak dunning-krueger.
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Don't care, Geopolitical borders and immigration laws are not natural, yet we have adapted these laws to apply to animals because our views of what native ecosystems should be are clouded by nationalism and NIMBYism
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No we havent you fucking spastic creationist, animals dont evolve on the order of decades
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Fish are evolving faster, now there's a new trait every passing generation
but where do you think the value of these actions lies? for the bison, it lies in profit. they sell meat and so are incentivized to produce lots of it. no one is eating sea turtle meat, but the sea turtle is vital to the ecosystems it is a part of, and the cost of the destruction of those systems is immense and apparently hard to grasp for a lot of people, yourself included. conservation isnt about boosting the population of endangered species, it's about preserving the natural systems that keep the planet healthy. do you get it yet?
You don't seem to understand that for every animal with certain purpose that dies, it can also be replaced by another species that also fulfils a similar purpose in its own habitat Case in point: Pablo Escobar's hippos replacing an extinct species of megafauna in Colombia's ecosystem, and taking on their exact same role
have you taken even one biology course past high school? the niche a keystone species fills in it's ecosystem cannot always be replaced by another similar species, especially not quickly enough to preempt any irreversible damage done to the ecosystem. if grizzly bears dissappeared from forests there wouldnt suddenly be another predator to fill their voracious appetite for and capacity to catch salmon, and the ecosystem would suffer as a result. this is just off the top of my head, there are myriad examples if you care to learn
wherein the immediate goal is to preserve, say, some ugly bird in their local wetlands youre right in that most people only care that the bird looks nice and reminds them of home. but the broader picture is that the bird is an important part of the natural mechanisms of it's biome, and the concequences for it's dissappearance could outweigh the cost of maintaining it's population, at least in the long run. you're right it isnt cut and dry, the panda for example is kept around because it brings in money, not because it is a keystone species vital to bamboo forests, it isn't
Can anyone defeat macaques? Keep in mind I'm not talking about baboons. I'm not talking about chimpanzees. I'm not even talking about gorillas armed with high powered ordnance and state of the art surface to ground capabilites.
The act of casting recognizable names in an ensemble cast so as to buff up the credibility of your movie.
Or casting a person with real life notoriety of some sort in a bit role where they usually play themself that may or may not reference their real life notoriety.
Examples of A: Every Woody Allen movie from the past 20 years at least, Oceans movies, Hail Ceasar, most movies starring George Clooney, George Clooney in Gravity.
Examples of B: Charlie Sheen, Sasha Grey, Kim Kardashian in How I Met Your Mother, Norm Macdonald (and most stand up comedians)
In general its so moms can lean in dads ears and say "oh thats X person from Y"
Coconut crabs are fascinating
We're seeing what is essentially the intermediate stage of an animal that may very well go full terrestrial
It even independently evolved lungs
Coconut crabs? Those things are scary. Iirc they were the things that ate Amelia Airheart
Source?
Read a paper about them finding pulled apart bones on a beach near Fiji or something, in the sand was some articles that Amelia was known to carry. Make up etc.
The paper theorized that in the crash she was pretty beat up and laid on the beach to rest, which is when the coconut crabs come out at night. They tore her apart.
Damn, very interesting, how could one even defend themselves against such creatures?
Thats what makes it worse, they don't move very fast so you could just walk away. If you could still walk...
just push it away lol
they ate her corpse. even fucked up from a crash I think you could defend yourself unless it was like a swarm of them.
even then they're pretty skittish
They can't swim and are nocturnal. You would have to stand in the water all night.
Lmao a woman was beat by crabs.
>Make up etc.
Kek
>Make up etc.
This is so dumb. There is clutter and bullshit over pretty much every Pacific island, especially after WWII. The dumb natives make a religion out of it (read about "cargo cults"). They also are notoriously protein deprived so cannibalism is not uncommon. Those bones could be any random savage. The most promising forensic lead they ever had on Amelia ending up going missing while in custody. For whatever reason, somebody doesn't want us to know what happened to her.
The Japanese Army captured her, said "Hello" to her a few dozen times, and got rid of the corpse.
>The Japanese Army captured her, said "Hello" to her a few dozen times, and got rid of the corpse.
This is a rumor that started due to a photo but it was demonstrated to be a fake.
True, it was probably more like "Herro!, prease to rape you!"
Region was swarming with twitchy rapemonkeys.
>repeating plebbit sensationalist "cargo cult" meme completely out of context
>Cause of Death: Giant Enemy Crab
damn
metal
Coconut crabs are scavengers/swarm animals. They'll eat any and everything. Amelia Earhart's last known location was an area crawling with coconut crabs. People have found all kinds of bones from different species near coconut crab spots. Popular theory is she crashed and they tore apart and ate whatever was left
He has none because it came out his ass. She was never found.
No official source, just one of the more plausible possibilities
>dies in crash and washes up on shore
>crabs eat body that's why no one has found her
It's amazing that humans haven't hunted these things to extinction yet. You would think it would be our priority, considering how terrifying that are. I won't even enlarge the picture.
Crabs are based retards and the bigger the crab the cooler it is. I'm more surprised coconut crabs haven't been hunted to extinction for being delicious crustaceans you don't have to go to the bottom of the sea to catch.
>crabs tearing apart anything that isn't already dead
They could have processed her corpse once it had softened up some but the rest is an underage rekt enthusiast's fanfic.
These fuckers can break bones without much effort. Tearing apart an incapacitated human is totally on the table
What a fucking pussy
>NOOOOOOO THE ANIMALERINO IS NOT CUTE AND FLUFFY KILL IT WITH FIRE NOOOO MICKEY MOUSE SAVE MEEEE
Amelia Earhart is not for guro.
>Coconut crabs? Those things are scary. Iirc they were the things that ate Amelia Airheart
That's just one theory. In reality, they have scarcely little evidence of what happened. A skeleton was found at one point on some island but it miraculously vanished before definitive examination could be performed.
t. coconut crab
But how do they taste when boiled and then served with butter?
Unironically this.
From what I've read they are very good eating and are served in some restaurants as an occasional delicacy.
salty breastesses haha
Apparently they're amazing. Usually "bigger" creatures taste shittier, but they're great
they taste like coconut
This. Except mention it makes feminists and white knights everywhere piss themselves with rage.
no the local Fijians ate her, the crabs got the leftovers
lmfao
Anon...crabs, lobsters etc are bottom feeders and eat everything, including dead bodies. Those crabs you eat at the restaurant probably ate some dead sailor.
bruh does that make me a cannibal? deadass?
>Those crabs you eat at the restaurant probably ate some dead sailor.
That would seem extremely unlikely given very few people drown while millions of crabs are served yearly.
based crab showing sailors who is king of the seas
>Those crabs you eat at the restaurant probably ate some dead sailor.
woa...cool!
She was captured by the Japanese, gang raped and murdered.
Zero evidence of that. They found a skeleton on an island once and it vanished. One guy thinks he saw a plane half-submerged but it disappeared and they never went back to do extensive searches. For whatever reason, there isn't a strong motivation to find out what happened, probably because nothing good would come of it. The best possible ending is one that would leave little to no evidence.
She disappeared in the same islands where we now know the Imperial Japanese Navy was busy secretly building military bases. You do the math.
I think you're vastly underestimating how big the Pacific Ocean is or how many islands there are.
Not really, we know she went down near the illegal Japanese naval bases, which means we can safely surmise she was captured, gang raped and murdered.
>which means we can safely surmise she was captured, gang raped and murdered.
I think you're vastly underestimating what it takes to "safely surmise" things.
Seems like you know nothing about Amelia Earhart and less than that about the Japanese.
>Seems like you know nothing about Amelia Earhart
That's literally what i've been trying to tell you. We don't know what happened and there's basically zero evidence. What has been found has disappeared.
Maybe you don't. We know roughly where she went down, but you'd rather pretend she could be anywhere in the Pacific from the Aleutians to Antarctica.
Has anyone told the chinese about these lobsters yet?
>level 1 character in any game
>I ran across a couple of coconut crabs not long ago. Annoying creatures
>Amelia, what’s happening?!
>crab… crab broke my knife!
If you try to sleep outside or in a tent on that island, will the crabs try to eat you?
Theres literally no record of them ever eating a person. They eat small animals
So, short people?
Yes, not people
Yes
They look like a radioactive fallout 3 creature
She crashed in the fucking ocean.
Fish ate her
So what coconut crabs gotta eat too bro
>be first woman pilot
>crash to death
The person in charge of hiring stuntmen is the person credited with stunt casting.
Alternatively, extreme fly-fishing.
i live on (one of the only) islands that still has coconut crabs.
I want to catch a small one and keep it as an attack crab but they take many years to reach full size/maturity.
I think if I get a big one, it won't domesticate well and will attack me instead of just intruders.
this is my big hang up, get a small crab as investment and take care of it for years before it can slay my enemies, or just go find a big one and then that section of my yard is off limits to even myself?
Is there good eating on a coconut crab?
Yea, to my surprise
I figure since its a land crab they would taste like trash but they're decent. They keep em in 5gal home depot buckets here with a coconut+the crab in em at a lot of the restaurants
They're nearly hunted to extinction so I don't know how exactly they're allowed to serve them when they're protected but they all do anyway
>They're nearly hunted to extinction so I don't know how exactly they're allowed to serve them
Based zoomer who doesn't know the world works exactly opposite the way you were taught by your lefty teachers and peers. The way you save an animal from extinction is you make it food for humans then you pay "greedy" capitalist right winger white male ranchers to raise them as food. *Poof* Your nearly exinct animal is now valuable and brought back from the brink.
bison chili is off the hook
Lol I'm not against farming them or a Zoomer
I'm pretty sure the ones they're serving are wild caught. There are no coconut crab farms here far as I'm aware and they probably take a decade to be eating size anyway so I assume the ones in restaurants are "poached".
They'll never be truly extinct on this island because the air force has like 30% of the land and they don't allow people to go into the jungle there and hunt endangered crabs
While we're at it I want sea turtles to be dropped from the endangered list. Fucking rats of the ocean. I've lived on a dozen different beaches in my life and sea turtles are everywhere at all of them so far. Fucking speed bumps
The turtles must be some sort of funding scheme for marine biologists
>Uh yeah we need $150k extra in the budget next year for sea turtle tracking devices because there's just so few of them!
>this species inconveniences me. Kill them all now!
hi, as a zoomed can you explain why you have a compulsion to put "wild" in front of anything that doesn't happen inside a building.
those used to be the default, so I wonder whether you are the first generation to be bred entirely in captivity to the point where anything outside is "wild".
see:
>wild walking/swimming/skating/breathing
have you ever gone for a piss outside, did you call it wild pissing, and will I soon see an article titled "why wild pissing might actually be beneficial".
thanks in advance
Man those passenger pigeons pretty much single handedly destroy this retarded statement
>why didn't they just eat pigeon?
moron
Tell me why'd we eat them to death if they weren't tasty
have you ever seen a pigeon?
Same goes for Stellers Sea Cow
And Dodos of course
>why didn't ranchers in the 19th century plant a bunch of forests to make this wild animal a commercially viable food product
I was obviously talking about modern commercial livestock practices, not ye olde pre-conservation era hunting to extinction, you pedantic gay. What are you gonna bring up next to get a smug retort? The Woolly Mammoth?
And you don't think environmental practices are in any way a thing that humans are directly responsible for right? Because there's of course been no extinctions from mass deforestation or monoculture right? you fucking pedant coward
That seems kind of unrelated to the original topic anon. He's just explaining why being able to sell bison meat as food helps them not go extinct.
what he said was that human appetite for meat is saving animals from extinction, which is in fact retarded. additionally, it's not quite the own it could be when conservationists actually care about nature, not the dna sequence that is a bison, so this whole farmed = saved schtick is pretty specious
>environmental
>monoculture
Fuck off. Indians destroyed more species than modern, western, white nations ever could and they would absolutely rape their local environments. Capitalism + modern conservation is the best thing that could happen to species preservation. Commercialize the fuck out of them all. You gays just want to play your fiddles as the world burns and feel smug and morally superior about it all because you're demoralized atheists who believe in nothing.
Your post doesn't even make any sense. How could you do what I'm suggesting without taking responsibility for your practices? You can't. Obviously you develop best practices. They learned that with the dust bowl.
Capitalism has nothing to do with conservation and plunders the world. It will only farm animals when it becomes more economical to do that than take them from the wild, which for most species is never.
>Farmers eat their seed corn. They just do, ok?!?! >Stop defending them!
So do we need better environmental practices to fix things, or do we get rid of them because they're the problem? Answer this without thinking about left vs right.
Also why is it called "Animal conservation" if the initiatives end up keeping numbers low?
what do you think the word conservation means? is it called animal propagation? animal proliferation? the goal is to conserve the natural world and natural state of things, not fill the world with pandas. ironic honestly that conservatives tend to be the ones not to understand
They are protected but it is not illegal to hunt them. There are only size restrictions and a ban on capturing egg-bearing females.
It's like lobsters I believe. Fully grown males are legal, pregnant/pregnancy age crabs and the young are illegal
They're a delicacy and an aphrodisiac. So yes.
Catch many and fill the yard with them.
Build secret tunnel to enter and exit the house.
Based crab tamer
it's when you hire someone (non-actor at times) who wouldn't ordinarily be considered for roles, sometimes one that fits their real-life identity. like the scene in reno 911 where carrot top is staying at a hotel and the cops are called due to him behaving like a madman and firing a gun repeatedly
I don't like knowing these things exist.
If they were delicious at all, they wouldn't.
Hermit Crabs (and Coconut Crabs by extension) tend to be very friendly animals, and far more intelligent than you expect in your head. They can get used to people, have distinct personalities, and so on.
I don't see them eating Amelia alive, unless she was so badly mangled to the point where she would've died in an hour anyways. Just acting unfriendly to these creatures is enough to scare them away.
t. Crab
Nice try crab. Into the pot you go.
You can't eat coconut crabs, their flesh is full of toxins, not enough to kill an adult, but enough to make you shit and vomit for hours.
They aren't poisonous unless they eat something toxic.
That’s literally not true, where are you getting that from?
>While the coconut crab itself is not innately poisonous, it may become so depending on its diet, and cases of coconut crab poisoning have occurred.[55][56] For instance, consumption of the sea mango, Cerbera manghas, by the coconut crab may make the coconut crab toxic due to the presence of cardiac cardenolides.
Weird how the poison mango don't kill the crab.
There's a guy at one of the tourist attractions here that keeps a fairly large one on a leash so Korean/Japanese tourists can take a picture with it.
He doesn't even rubber band it's claws and afaik it's never attacked anyone.
Crab gets exposed to hundreds of people a night (pre-covid) so I guess it's just used to it and stays friendly
you have to be human to post here, preferably a white one
Crab friend 🙂
>Coconut Crabs
Big meaty claws typed this post
Whatever you say Deep. Eat the squid.
> Coconut "crab"
> is a lobster
who writes these shows?
garden gnomes, mostly
crab time
If le man is so evil why do these things still exist? It's like those fucking pandas, sloths or koalas. How many dollars go into making 2 pandas fuck each other? What the hell dude? Are they autistic? We humans we fuck even watermelons. And those pandas get even depressed. This world should be made of European men, Asian woman, cows, pigs, dogs, cats and plants. That's it. All the rest of beings, gtfo.
>If le man is so evil why do these things still exist
They barely do, because of le man.
Pandas aren't real.
Thanks for that video. I've always thought those animals were kinda weird.
Imagine the sounds lol
BCC
saw a coconut crab the other day. nasty creatures
>Myleene Klass has been blasted after claiming to have released a rat-eating crab in Hampstead Heath, London.
>Wildlife experts have discussed how harmful releasing the crab - the biggest in the world that can grow up to 3ft and feed on rats - could be because a 'non-native species' should not be free to roam in the UK.
Who was in the wrong here?
>a 'non-native species' should not be free to roam in the UK.
KEK
Its got to be pretty fast to eat rats. If its just one, theres really no harm in it though. It will just be an urban legend among the rat community of a monster that eats them, but will eventually die off with nothing to fuck
>'non-native species' should not be free to roam in the UK
And yet, guaranteed all these experts are flaming 'refugees welcome' gays.
They wouldn't survive the winter so it's a moot worry
That's what they said about parakeets and yet the UK now has a thriving population of them
Invasive species are weird. The NA grey squirrel is replacing the native European red squirrel in the UK because it carries some plague the WILL horribly kill any red squirrel it comes across. Grey squirrels are much bigger and are actual nuisance that can fuck up trees unlike the smaller reds, so some Bongs have taken upon themselves to eradicate the invaders with traps. Some nature "lovers" give them shit for that lol
People who cry about invasive species like horses, feral cats, foxes, etc being eradicated need to get the rope
People got mad when we started culling feral cats and rabbits in Australia even though they fucking decimate our native animals
Not to mention NSW giving feral horses protections in Kosciuszko National Park because of the bleeding heart boomers and horse girls despite the fact they fuck up the delicate landscape
A lot of people raised a big stink when the Colombian army killed one of Pablo's feral hippos.
How long till the hippos start killing people
Hippos are worse than pitbulls, what were they complaining about? It's not like the army went all the way to Africa to shoot them.
They probably think hippos are cute and friendly because they're only familiar with them from cartoons and kids books
they kill more people per year than lions
I approve of the idea of Colombia having a native hippo population, seems badass. What's the worst thing they can do, kill some Colombians?
there was a chap in the news ten years past who'd been conscripted by the local government to eliminate grey squirrels by means of air rifle.
he managed ten thousand in a year.
if only they had ten thousand men doing the same for the other highly invasive species from india and africa.
you misspelled "pajeets"
If you can't compete with a hard working crab, maybe you deserve to have your habitat stolen.
Unless she's releasing multiple males AND females it's not going to ever be a problem, right?
What if the crab breeds her to form a race of crab-human hybrids?
based doujin appreciator
Crab people? You're a conspiracy theorist. Crab people aren't real.
>a crabperson wrote this
Reminds me of this kino.
>non-native species' should not be free to roam in the UK.
And yet London is ran by a pajeet
This Communist idea of nature being static and unchanging has only been around since the 1950s, what kind of cultural black swan event is required to reverse its damages?
I wish "Eco-Creationism" became an actual term
>new idea bad
have a nice day, savage
>This Communist idea of nature being static and unchanging
that's literally a liberal idea though. Read More Heat than Light
should release a few of those in Paris
CRABS WELCOME
>a 'non-native species' should not be free to roam in the UK.
>it's not ok to release a slow-ass vermin-eating crab in London
>it's very ok to release thousands of muslim immigrant rapists in London
Why are Europistanis like this?
>for once a woman was in the right
Weird
Is there any evidence this happened, or is it just Hear'Say?
Its the main theory based on the an experiment when some scientists left pig carcasses out and the crabs stripped the flesh and scattered the bones in a matter of hours
Thanks but I was just making an early 2000's UK pop music joke.
I'd like to blast in my-lean kl-ass.
You see an invasive crab specie, I see an engineering, an exterminator...
>Diversity is our strength-- wait a minute, is that thing killing our ratterinos??? NOOOOOO
These things will murder your pets, hell I don't think even toddlers are safe around them.
>Aristotle was interested in the relationships between predator and prey, competition for dominance within a species, migration, hibernation, symbiosis (e.g., the pinna-mussel soon dies when deprived of its defender, a small pinn-guard crab). He observed the reciprocity of all living things.
Yeah Im thinking crabs are based
They are.
>crab in a planting pot
Is this how crab apples are made?
this is truly horrific thanks for sharing
I HAVE NO LEGS AND I MUST SCUTTLE
>Herbert
>"she"
what the fuck that was no ending wheres his fucking legs
anon... he didn't make it. also he was a female.
"We just found this crab in this totally not fucked by human interaction state"!
>I CANNOT LIVE
>I CANNOT DIE
>TRAPPED IN MYSELF
>BODY MY HOLDING CELL
He'll most likely regrow his legs, right? I think all crabs can do that.
It died before being able to
would be cool to try and feed it to keep it alive until it regrew its limbs, but it would probably die anyway. Animals can regrow limbs but it takes a lot out of them
Pet rock :-DDDD
I'll kick the SHIT out of these deformed fucks. They better stay the fuck out of my way. YOU HEAR ME?
No. What Christ offers you is available to you now, this very moment and requires you to do nothing but accept him as your Lord and Savior. No "build it and he will come".
>Yet it has also been suggested that the species was rare prior to 1492, and that the subsequent increase in their numbers may be due to the decrease in the Native American population (who, as well as hunting the birds, competed with them for mast) caused by European immigration, and the supplementary food (agricultural crops) the immigrants imported
Noooooo... not my heckin' noble savage myth.
Your sin, as we all do.
death, i think the bible more or less says
but if you're cool with oblivion, eternal darkness/unbearable separation from your creator, or burning in hellfire, which i think are three popular interpretations of a non-saved persons afterlife(?) then nothing i guess
He's your God too and the debt was already paid on the Cross. You just have to accept Him.
Eldritch horror
>Bisons went nearly extinct, and we bred them back to secure levels so yes, propagating a species' numbers to stability is literally what conservation means in this context
You only view breeding as a viable option once there's literally only 2 left, ask yourself, is this REALLY a good idea for sustaining a species' population?
OH FUCK MAN I GOTTA GET OUTA THIS OCEAN DUDE HAVE YOU SEEN THESE CRABS HEEEEELLLLL NAH BRUH
Fun fact, fishBro: Adult coconut crabs live almost exclusively on land.
Post your proof that Bisons were developed in an ancient stone-age laboratory, there is no such thing as an artificial species
conservationists are fighting to conserve nature, not a species' genome. if we had a million sea turtles in cages do you think conservationists would be clapping for mission accomplished? the bison and the sea turtle really have very few direct parallels, i'm not sure why you're being obtuse
You said Bison are unnatural. unnatural=artificial
conservation means reintroducing wolves into the forest to cull the deer to move things towards a more natural biome, not farming 100k bison in a shed in the midwest somewhere. i get that some people like things to be simple and black and white, but some things have so much nuance to them that no one person can comprehend it, ie nature the natural world and it's intertwined mechanisms. conservationists are fighting to preserve nature before we destroy it, because the cost of repair is infinitely greater than the cost of conservation. only shortsighted apes don't understand this intuitively.
>Conservationists are fighting to preserve nature
Can you name ONE time, besides certain bugs, fish, tortoises, and reptiles, that a single species on earth has lived and lasted forever without it merely being luck of the draw?
>besides
>luck of the draw
shut the fuck up retard, don't reply to my posts ever again, there are adults talking
Yes, adults that believe "Nature" has remained totally static and unchanged since the day the Earth was first formed, despite the fact that species such as dinosaurs, wooly mammoths, and countless others have been lost to natural cataclysms long before our intervention, and that these cataclysm events also drastically changed the planet's own natural biomes and the evolution of our plant life
imagine arguing for a cataclysm... obviously bad things have happened and will always happen, we're fighting to prevent that as much as possible. this blazé attitude of "well bad things happened then and the planet got on just fine" is peak ape brain. we are trying to mitigate the concequences of our impact on the globe, specifically to prevent a cataclysm like youre describing and the untold human suffering it would cause. read aasimov foundations this isnt a new idea
You can't stop me from arguing for one. My argument is that yoru vciew of nature is creationist, as a truly unchanging nature would still have Dinosaurs, Wooly Mammoths, and Eurypterids roaming our world alive and well
we don't want nature to change when it would negatively impact us, simple as. of course nature isnt unchanging, but the systems we have in place now are destructive and will ultimately be self destructive once our impact on nature catches up with us. lots of ancient civilizations fell because they lacked an understanding of their impact on the environment, ie easter island or mesopotamia
>when it would negatively impact us
But when Nature is fully being controlled by humans and monitored for the sake of making it more accessible and appealing to humanity, it's no longer "nature", instead it's a fake, human-defined simulation of nature, it's a full-on rejection of humans being products of natural evolution. I halfway expect hardline environmentalists to believe Humans didn't biologically exist until the year 1800
when nature is fully controlled by intelligent forces like something out of ringworld then you're right, but as it is now humanity is very much just along for the ride. we're still being btfo by strong winds and our greatest feats of engineering fail all the time. if we destroy our planet before we gather the knowledge and resources to either save it or escape it then it's obvious that's not good, who cares if it's natural or not
>when nature is fully controlled by intelligent forces like something out of ringworld then you're right,
But this is the end-all-be-all goal of all of conservationism
No, you imbecile, conservationism wants to preserve nature the way it is
Just imagine how our descendants would react to what we do now, they'd be disgusted at our attempts at eradicating evolution out of a need for Nature to retain a certain aesthetic
Just imagine how your descendents would react to your feeble attempts at baiting
nah man we aren't eradicating evolution we're just doing our best to mitigate our impact on it. it's like a star trek thing youknow?
>we're just doing our best to mitigate our impact on it
Ask yourself would any far-future intelligent species even know that we existed, if we decided our global purpose in life was to hide every piece of evidence that we existed?
i dont give a fuck what they would know, the actions we take are a direct result of our desire to mitigate our current and future suffering, not hide every piece of our existence. the fact you think youve got it all figured out and it's the rest of the world who is arrogantly trying to overstep their bounds within the natural order is peak dunning-krueger.
Don't care, Geopolitical borders and immigration laws are not natural, yet we have adapted these laws to apply to animals because our views of what native ecosystems should be are clouded by nationalism and NIMBYism
No we havent you fucking spastic creationist, animals dont evolve on the order of decades
Fish are evolving faster, now there's a new trait every passing generation
How Eco-Creationist of to deny the possibility that natural ecosystems evolve over time, just as their native fauna change and evolve over time
but where do you think the value of these actions lies? for the bison, it lies in profit. they sell meat and so are incentivized to produce lots of it. no one is eating sea turtle meat, but the sea turtle is vital to the ecosystems it is a part of, and the cost of the destruction of those systems is immense and apparently hard to grasp for a lot of people, yourself included. conservation isnt about boosting the population of endangered species, it's about preserving the natural systems that keep the planet healthy. do you get it yet?
You don't seem to understand that for every animal with certain purpose that dies, it can also be replaced by another species that also fulfils a similar purpose in its own habitat Case in point: Pablo Escobar's hippos replacing an extinct species of megafauna in Colombia's ecosystem, and taking on their exact same role
have you taken even one biology course past high school? the niche a keystone species fills in it's ecosystem cannot always be replaced by another similar species, especially not quickly enough to preempt any irreversible damage done to the ecosystem. if grizzly bears dissappeared from forests there wouldnt suddenly be another predator to fill their voracious appetite for and capacity to catch salmon, and the ecosystem would suffer as a result. this is just off the top of my head, there are myriad examples if you care to learn
wherein the immediate goal is to preserve, say, some ugly bird in their local wetlands youre right in that most people only care that the bird looks nice and reminds them of home. but the broader picture is that the bird is an important part of the natural mechanisms of it's biome, and the concequences for it's dissappearance could outweigh the cost of maintaining it's population, at least in the long run. you're right it isnt cut and dry, the panda for example is kept around because it brings in money, not because it is a keystone species vital to bamboo forests, it isn't
Goats were cheaper, I think
Goats are cooler, sheep are like the homo sissy version of the manly goat.
In a perfect world we would be farming Takins
delet this
Can anyone defeat macaques? Keep in mind I'm not talking about baboons. I'm not talking about chimpanzees. I'm not even talking about gorillas armed with high powered ordnance and state of the art surface to ground capabilites.
>surface to ground capabilites
yes and more hardy, more appropriate for places with poor pasture, like areas with lots of shrubs and weeds.
Sheep roll down hills where, goats climb rocks.
Theres nothing we can do except film.
/misc/ BOARD OF DIRECTORS, WHO THE FUCK DO WE STUNT CAST AS AMELIA EARHART????
that tomboy bitch with the freckles and blue eyes
There was no island retard, shes somewhere at the bottom of the ocean
The act of casting recognizable names in an ensemble cast so as to buff up the credibility of your movie.
Or casting a person with real life notoriety of some sort in a bit role where they usually play themself that may or may not reference their real life notoriety.
Examples of A: Every Woody Allen movie from the past 20 years at least, Oceans movies, Hail Ceasar, most movies starring George Clooney, George Clooney in Gravity.
Examples of B: Charlie Sheen, Sasha Grey, Kim Kardashian in How I Met Your Mother, Norm Macdonald (and most stand up comedians)
In general its so moms can lean in dads ears and say "oh thats X person from Y"
Oh thanks appreciate it.
why'd she do it, bros?
Free meal before she has her own babies
Comfy.
>climb tree
>ambush sleeping bird
>break its fucking wings
What the fuck was his problem?
Coconut crabs are fascinating
We're seeing what is essentially the intermediate stage of an animal that may very well go full terrestrial
It even independently evolved lungs
These morons are cannibals
On the Seychelles I saw a big one kill a smaller one and ear it
Fucking disgusting
They're not even true crabs.
True crabs walk sideways and these crustacean have a reduced tail.
Plus these fuckers are known to eat Kittehs.
>soon
>one of these days... you're gonna wake up dead
What does a best boy do?
the guy from teen titains? he can turn into animals
he bork bork bork