What was his crime other than being a different religion? It was 100% self defence.

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  1. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Sith are evil

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      From my point of view, the Jedi are evil!.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        WELL THEN YOU ARE LOST

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      How so?

      What did palpatine do specifically that was evil prior to movie 3?

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        Kill Qui-Gon. Start a war. Wanted to capture a princess of another planet. Put an assassination out on that princess later on as well. And that's not even mentioning the moronic Clone Wars cartoon troony shit.

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          > Qui gon.
          Killed by maul.
          > Start a war.
          The trade federation were doing that Anyway.
          > Capture a princess.
          The trade feds etc.
          > Assassination.
          Dooku.
          > Clone wars.
          Didn't read lmao.

          Sideous told them to do it moron, and he's Sideous.

          Implying you aren't racist against shadowy robes.

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            Trade Federation and Dooku literally tell multiple people Sideous is behind all that. don't make me defend the prequels, homosexual

            • 7 days ago
              Anonymous

              Behind WHAT?
              Yoda invaded Geonosis.

            • 7 days ago
              Anonymous

              Believing literal space israelites and sith lords.
              Uh huh.

              >maul
              Who was send out by Sheev to kill the jedi.
              >The trade federation were doing that Anyway.
              The trade federation was controlled by Sheev
              >The trade feds
              Again. Controlled by Sheev
              >Dooku
              Dooku does what Sheev tells him to do.
              >Didn't read lmao.
              Yes you did.

              Remind me when he tells maul to kill them.

              > Trade federation controlled by.
              Citation needed.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Remind me when he tells maul to kill them.
                Here

                >Trade federation controlled by
                Did you even watch the movies?

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              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                > Tells maul to move against them.
                Not to kill them.
                > Massacred trade feds never say anything while dying like rats.
                The only time sheev ever says to kill anyone is at the very beginning with obi wan and kenobi, whom he sent there in the first place.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                What do you think "move against them" and "getting revenge" means in this context, ESL-kun

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                You'd think assassinating people would require you to be literal if you were a shit lord. Otherwise your minions might just kill people by accident or you could activate your kill order if someone mishears you.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Why aren't you answering the question, esl-kun

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            >maul
            Who was send out by Sheev to kill the jedi.
            >The trade federation were doing that Anyway.
            The trade federation was controlled by Sheev
            >The trade feds
            Again. Controlled by Sheev
            >Dooku
            Dooku does what Sheev tells him to do.
            >Didn't read lmao.
            Yes you did.

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            It's like you don't know he was the emperor also. The trade federation was working for him. The iconic there are 2 of them now line.

            • 7 days ago
              Anonymous

              No really what evidence do we have that the trade feds weren't going to blockade naboo anyway. As far as we know Sidious was just making the best of a bad situation.

              Like American foreign policy does.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      The charges, officer.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Not a crime.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        Sith don't need to exist. There is enough non force crime.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Prove it

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      From your point of view.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Only a sith deal in absolutes

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Rule of One>Rule of Two>Sith Empire

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        No true Sith

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      You can tell, cuz their lightsabers are red

  2. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    The so-called republic was a ultimately just a theocracy. Imagine if a pagan somehow became the supreme leader of Iran. Shit would go down.

  3. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Da SIIIIIIIIIITH control the senate and both sides of the war!
    The jedi should have been arrested for hatespeech

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      This. One of the most antisemitic films I've ever seen.

  4. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    He committed treason by orchestrating a civil war in order to destabilize the government.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Proof?

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        Prove he isn't evil.

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          Everything he did was legal
          The senate voted for his emergency powers
          You are starting to sound like a danger to our democracy

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Mace was a moron. He had no evidence and instead of trying to trap and expose the Chancellor in front of everyone, he immediately confronts him with no witnesses and tries to kill him. Sheev was a massively popular wartime Chancellor and the Jedi killing the head of the Republic in coup would have not only dragged out the Clone Wars but sparked a Civil War on top of it.

        He committed conspiracy to create a massive galaxy spanning war that killed millions to get himself in a position of political power. Worse than treason, I don't even know what you would call that.

        Was Palp's Galactic Empire really that bad? The only crime ridden hell holes are planets outside the Empire's reach, like Tatooine. The only people we see fighting against it are those who lost power or those connected to those who lost power when he took over, i.e. ex-Jedi, Leia and her foster family. Even blowing up Alderaan isn't that much of atrocity, especially considering large parts of the rebellion fomented there, and in a galaxy of millions of worlds, it's basically like sacking a small town to show you mean business to the rest the country.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >Was Palp's Galactic Empire
          I'm sure there is a lot of material, both legends and disney, about how it was mean!
          But star wars ever since original trilogy has always been a liberal american mythos, if an empire being bad isn't self explanatory then you're culturally out of touch with star wars and not the target audience.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >he immediately confronts him with no witnesses and tries to kill him.
          Uhh

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            I meant no witnesses other than Jedi.

            >Cop kills Politician
            >"Don't worry my three other cop friends were there and can confirm he was bad, especially the squid"

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Nah that anon has a point, Mace should've confronted him in public. What's he going to do then? Pull out a red lightsaber and fly across the room in front of dozens of witnesses? It was a bad call on Mace and Mace himself was just a bad guy, he's rude, impulsive, and violent in the extreme. He fricked up multiple times. Killing a defenseless Jango was meaningless and ultimately right there Mace sealed his own fate and the fates of every other Jedi. They could and should have taken Jango alive.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Sheev already was in control of the senate meaning he wouldn't have gotten a trial giving him justice and he was a jedi who found out that his sworn enemy made three years of war countless other jedi died for was all in vain. The point wasn't to capture but to kill him which was already illegal and Mace would have been fine with that as long as the last sith was destroyed.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                The irony is the Sheev took power the "right way" doing the tedious hard work of going through the political motions and winning over the hearts and minds of the Senate over the course of decades, whereas the Jedi were attempting to seize power through naked force and blindly thinking everyone would just accept it. The way basically the entire Republic immediately turns on the Jedi and approves of their of destruction proves Mace's own hubris and being out of touch with the reality of their situation.

                It's closer to nuking Hiroshima. A show force on a city highly involved in war production but also with a large civilian population that was chosen to as an effective demonstration of the weapon's capabilities. It was also a deterrent to the enemy and also other powers that you have superweapons and the balls to use it. Not that I approve of nuking Japan in WWII, its just that doing something like is in the best interests geopolitical machinations of a hegemon, so they are going to do it, "good" or evil.

                One of the real reasons we never see the New Republic in power is that they would actually have to rule and enforce their will and ideology on the galaxy to maintain legitimacy. Modern writers overanalyze and nitpick content more than I am overanalyzing this film about space wizards, puppets, and laser swords right now, so their "New Republic" couldn't just be good guys in charge, it would have to be corrupt or oppressive, hence why it's always the scrappy band of rebels vs evil empire.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >One of the real reasons we never see the New Republic in power is that they would actually have to rule and enforce their will and ideology on the galaxy to maintain legitimacy.
                That could have been an interesting thing to explore if Disney wasn't just about money doing what's comfortable for audiences perhaps hitting too close to home.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                As fun as it is to overanalyze Star Wars, something like that would be probably god-awful and miss the point of a fun action space adventure for all ages. Every addition of moral greyness to a fictional world makes it tediously overly complicated, less interesting, and overall less compelling, unless that was the point of the work to begin with. I will maintain that only Lucas, despite his 'tisms, actually understands Star Wars is supposed to be a fun homage to 50s serials with archetypical heroes and clear good and evil.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >The irony is the Sheev took power the "right way" doing the tedious hard work of going through the political motions and winning over the hearts and minds of the Senate over the course of decades, whereas the Jedi were attempting to seize power through naked force and blindly thinking everyone would just accept it
                Clouding everyone minds. And playing both side is not the right way. Are you all being thick headed.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Clouding everyone minds. And playing both sides is not the right way.
                Do you even into politics?

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >Mace should've confronted him in public.
              Are you insane? Sheev's public charisma would convince any jury, Mace's only option was an immediate takedown.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          He blew up an entire planet and was going to do it again.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >Was Palp's Galactic Empire really that bad?
          Yes

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Blowing up Alderaan is like nuking Los-Angeles. Morally it's wrong, but many people would like it.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous
          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            If that shit about the empire was true why did they kill Luke's aunt and uncle? Or why did the murder countless jedi children and burry the memories of them?

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >why did they kill Luke's aunt and uncle?
              Have you met Owen? Tell me he didn't see stormies walk up and not pull a gun on them.

              As for Jedi spawnlings, they were larval heretics and cultists to a false Order and couldn't all be redeemed.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Oh you're shitposting, got it. I'm sometimes slow on these things.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Excuse me Sir, we are looking for two droids, the local Jawas say they were sold in this area. These droid contain vital information valuable to the Empire, so you will be appropriately compensated if you can provide assistance to their wherabouts. Let's see, I have their descriptions right here...
                >AM I BEING DETAINED? FRICK YOU PIG! I HAVE MY RIGHTS!
                >*Pulls blaster* and gets wasted

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                You're shitposting but this unironically might have been how it went down, given that Luke and Obi-Wan get pulled over and questioned in that very same movie and it goes pretty much like how real life cops pull people over.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >If that shit about the empire was true why did they kill Luke's aunt and uncle?
              do you know how many african americans die every year due to police brutality?

              >Or why did the murder countless jedi children and burry the memories of them?
              do you know what happened to the native americans?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Well I'm not claiming that the American empire is any good.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                my point was that even seemingly "just" societies attempt to brush embarrassing things under the rug and many regular people will ignore them and happily go along with their lives as long as they don't directly affect them

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                America is not seemingly just though

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            I’m curious how the Seperatist holdouts would’ve reacted to the Rebellion winning. I can’t imagine they’d be too happy considering the rebels are trying to restore the republic

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              What? Palpatine was killing them off replaced with the clones and then became the empire. It's just nonsense reaching now

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              They probably had their buttcheeks pre-lubed for the First Order, because whatever came after the Empire was probably going to not given them what they wanted either.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              It'd probably be a mix yeah, but considering a lot of Separatist worlds were the Outer Rim, and so was the Rebellion, it seemed like a lot of them hated the Empire even more than they hated the old Republic.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >it's basically like sacking a small town to show you mean business to the rest the country
          That might have been the case had it not been Alderaan. Tarkin fricked up by using a founding Core world as an example, and for all his talk he didn't just do it to intimidate Leia into talking. It was more akin to if the US had nuked Kyoto instead of Hiroshima in WW2; while Kyoto isn't the capital anymore, it's still immensely significant to Japan as a location for what it was and what it represented. When Tarkin went all-in on his Mid-Rim jealousy and blew up Alderaan, the galaxy as a whole got slapped in the memory face, because Alderaan had been there as long as the Republic had been, so 20,000+ years or so in various forms, and now all of a sudden it wasn't and that, more so than dissolving the Senate, was the wake-up call that this Empire was not the Republic just re-branded..

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Y-yeah, could you imagine if Tokyo was firebombed into oblivion?

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              OH SAY CAN YOU SEEEEE

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Tokyo getting firebombed was just war, in fact Tokyo suffered large fires several times even without a war, but dropping a nuke attacks the land it sits on and shows utter contempt not just for the city but everything about the space in the perception of what that location encompasses. Thankfully, Truman wasn't that foolish; un-thankfully, Vader not overruling Tarkin was, because Anakin wasn't stupid and he must have known or at least suspected destroying a place like Alderaan was going to open up a shitstorm the Empire as a whole really didn't need.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think the Jedi had any evidence of that other than the vague connection that he was a Sith and so was Dooku which must mean they were friends or something

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        The Jedi knew Dooku had a connection to the clones and Jango was the clone base and Jango was also next to Dooku. They're moronic for ever trusting or using the clones at all. The actual answer would've been just caving to the Trade Federation and refusing to fight the war at all. If the Republic somehow cannot field its own army from its citizenry, then it is not a legitimate government. The Jedi should've just stood down.

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          >The Jedi knew Dooku had a connection to the clones
          No I don't think so.
          >Jango was also next to Dooku
          That's true at least. However he was also a professional bounty hunter/assassin/whatever so you can't reasonably infer that just because he was in the employ of Dooku at one point that Dooku had anything to do with the clones or even knew about them.

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            They were standing right next to each other and he shot and killed a Jedi in defense of Dooku in front of like 1,000 Jedi witnesses right after Obi-Wan learned the clones were based on him and he was even attacked by Jango right before that. He also knew Jango attempted to assassinate Padmé, so it would more of a stretch to assume his association with Dooku was coincidental or a matter of working different jobs at the same time.
            Had the Jedi simply collectively stood down from the conflict, Palpatine has no winning move. He could either be the guy that was in charge when the Republic fell to the Federation or he could call off the entire plot. Either way he could not have eliminated the Jedi so easily considering apparently no one in the trillions of Republic citizenry were going to bother fighting in the fricking war, so he'd just have some dipshit clones (and only the first few batches) to back him.

            • 7 days ago
              Anonymous

              Killing Padme didn't have anything to do with the clones anyway.
              I can see this explanation making sense to someone like George Lucas but you have to have knowledge that the Jedi don't have to make these leaps.

            • 7 days ago
              Anonymous

              > If Jedi don't fight Sheev is fricked

              They were fricked either way. CIS was never the true faction that was suppossed to come out on top in his gambit. Should the Jedi decide to abstain from fighting they would be throwing down their entire legacy and PR in Republic, making it easier for Palpatine to manipulate the public opinion that they are cowards, hypocrites, meanwhile convincing/mindraping CIS leadership to commit more atrocities until either Jedi cave in and decide to fight or they are no longer a threat to his power, becoming another force cult if they are being cut from Republic's piggy bank and relocated to say Dantooine or whatever other backwater temple they have. No way the Jedi would be allowed to remain on Coruscant after they forsook their host nation

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >manipulate public opinion
                Like that matters. It's canon they could not field an army. No one cared. And boohoo. They have to abandon a nice piece of real estate to stand by their convictions. You're right it's much better to essentially knowingly go along with a sketchy plan you consciously are aware is being manipulated by unseen forces.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        they obviously did or they would've have arrested him. We never got to see the trial so we'll never know what they had.

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          They had Anakin's suspicions after spending time around him given his statements about the Sith, his arguably unlawful order to kill Dooku (which Anakin even acknowledges is wrong before doing it), and in the course of his arrest he pulled out a red lightsaber, used the force, and shot lightning at Mace Windu which is pretty damning.

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            What’s so illegal about being a sith lord? Sounds like religious persecution.

            • 7 days ago
              Anonymous

              >what's so illegal about having a stockpile of weapons that you can use in abusive ways or to overpower your government?

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                What stockpile?

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                I'm just giving a comparison that a sith lord has weapons at his disposal in the form of force powers and it would be the same as a guy with a bunch of guns.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                That’s like saying it should be illegal to know Jiu Jitsu

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                yes, a hand to hand combat skill which can be neutralized with a gun is the same as a guy who can fry a group of armed people with lightning. Not to mention being able to lift entire spaceships to be used as a projectile.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                Yes.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                >only the government should be allowed to stockpile weapons for use against the citizenry, the reverse is bad
                have a nice day

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                >the country should be run by gangsters and warlords

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                But the government is run by gangsters and warlords?

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                >I have no understanding of what a government is

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            Suspicions?? Sidious flat out admits to Anakin he’s been behind everything. There is no reason for Windu to doubt Anakin, considering their relationship. Windu could probably sense desperation in Anakin and other emotions that signal the truth. Windu knew 100% Sidious was Palpatine. This was a pivotal decision and if Windu succeeded, he would have ended the war and sith with one strike

            • 7 days ago
              Anonymous

              Sheev doesn't admit to being Darth Sidious, he admits to knowing the dark side of the force. When Anakin says
              >YOU'RE the sith lord!
              Sheev doesn't say "yes", he just says that Anakin should accept his help. No verbal aknowledgement of his alternate identity.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                >gets told a story about earth plaguies a known sith lord
                >gets told his apprentice learned the secret to life
                >admits to anakin he can teach him to save her with the dark side
                Anakin isn’t moronic despite Hayden’s performance

                The Jedi are educated on the philosophy of the rule of two. They had only defeated the apprentice and never confronted a master. Anakin knew right away and that was Sheevs plan, to force the jedis hand

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        Dooku told them everything, exactly what was going on. Said he’s infiltrated and asked for help destroying it. So…the Jedi ignore him then kill him…then they all die.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      yes, but aside from that

  5. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Having been democratically granted emergency powers and order 66 presumably being a contingency that was already on the books, he technically did nothing legally wrong. The Jedi were just straight up couping him.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      >order 66 presumably being a contingency that was already on the books
      If it was already on the books then the Jedi were inexcusably moronic to keep on fighting alongside the clones.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        How do you read the situation otherwise
        >hmmmm there's this mysterious hidden planet that doesn't exist in the galactic database
        >and this guy who attempted to assassinate a politician and murdered his own partner has room and board there
        >and they're cloning him to create an army of soldiers
        >based on the orders of some jedi who never existed
        >for some unknown purpose
        >I guess this is fine let's send them to war for us

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          on the orders of some jedi who never existed
          With all due respect, how the frick are you misunderstanding a kids movie?

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            Because I haven't watched it since I was a kid
            Wasn't it dooku using a fake name pretending to be a jedi? Or was it his actual jedi name before he went evil

            • 7 days ago
              Anonymous

              "Sifo-Dyas, a Jedi Master, ordered the creation of the Clone Troopers before the Jedi Council authorized it, and his story is explored in The Clone Wars. Sifo-Dyas' actions and his ties to Count Dooku had significant consequences, as his clone army ultimately served Palpatine's purposes and led to the Jedi's downfall."

              First result on google for "Who ordered the clone army"
              (I didn't know either and had to look it up, lol)

            • 7 days ago
              Anonymous

              I think most people thought it was a less-than-subtle phoenetic analogue to "Sidious" and that Palpatine was behind it all, because why not? Turns out it's literally just some old ass dude named Syfo-Dyas.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        I think technically there was also a contingency order to take Palpatine into custody, And various other things like that. It's a bit like how the US and Canada technically have plans to invade each other, but are de facto close Allies. No one seriously thinks and Canada-US war will happen without thinks getting *really* weird first, but having an idea of how you could do it is better than just refusing the possibility outright.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        To be fair, it's nested in there with 150 other contingency plans that are mostly just "kill X if they try to overthrow"
        Order 65 is kill the Chancellor.
        It wasn't known that the clones are sleeper agents who would be compelled to follow through these orders against their own will.

  6. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    the charges, Master Jedi??

  7. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    I think the whole starting a civil war to seize absolute control over the republic and the galaxy thing might have been bit illegal

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Is there any proof of that plot? Holorecordings? Written documents? Sounds like a right wing conspiracy theory to me.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah but he made it legal

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      So call the cops, why do the local monks think they can enforce the law

  8. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    it was a democratic choice

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >"I love democracy.."

  9. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    >I am Theisan Eytt!
    What?

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      You know how in Shining it gets revealed Brad Pitt was always the caretaker and the hotel is it's own entity? The senate is like that. He's just a ghost to serve the senate.

  10. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw no alternate timeline story where Sidious reveals himself as a Sith Lord but the Jedi strike up a truce with him to defend the galaxy and bring an actual balance of light and dark to the galaxy

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      The dark side is not a part of the force. This is what Disney doesn't understand. "Balance" means every dark side user is dead.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        >"Balance" means every dark side user is dead.
        Only a Sith deals in absolutes. You just outed yourself moron

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          Only sith, you say? That sounds absolutist.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        A stupid interpretation, the dark side has existed since long before the Jedi started studying the Force. The Infinite Empire used it in their technology, and the Sith in the Stygian Caldera centered their culture around it, all before the Jedi or the Republic ever even existed. The dark side is fundamental to the Force.

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          >EU GOLD
          Continue.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          The new sith simply use the force as a tool like Darth Bane or Sheev. The jedi want to live by its will whatever that may be. Sith don't believe in that.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Which may be, but Bane placed a lot of emphasis on collection of power in the Force, and with how Plagueis is presented, he wanted to dominate the Force in its entirety, it was foundational to his research into midichlorians and immortality. He, at least, didn't see the Force as a tool for use, but instead as an ocean of power to master. Sidious may not have gone all-in on belief like his master did but he was certainly all about ownership of it.
            Besides, the key aspect of why the Jedi kept schism-ing was in disagreements over what to study in the Force. That had been going since the first Jedi Council formed, when Rajivari the first heretic suggested studying ALL methods and beliefs in the Force, not just the light. There could be an argument that the cultural practitioners of the dark side, like the Sith species, may have used it as only a tool, but only their most powerful wielders of it ruled them so it was the most important tool regardless.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Bane ironically selflessly devoted himself to the concept of selfishness or personally "controlling" the force to your own whims, which sort of leads to the rule of Two Sith essentially serving a "higher power". Palpatine was really the only one in that line that actually was "properly" selfish in that he was self serving and sneaky enough to do things like never take an apprentice that had a chance of defeating him, never straight up challenging his master, and succeeding through "normal" political tomfoolery.

            The whole extending his life and learning the secret from his master is purposely left interestingly ambiguous though, and I interpret it as he really did know a way - and he pulled a classic Sith prank on Vader (knowing that he'd unknowingly drain Padme's life)

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        A stupid interpretation, the dark side has existed since long before the Jedi started studying the Force. The Infinite Empire used it in their technology, and the Sith in the Stygian Caldera centered their culture around it, all before the Jedi or the Republic ever even existed. The dark side is fundamental to the Force.

        There is no inherent properties to the force
        Light/Darkside are sentient beings interpretation of how to use it

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          "The question is which is to be master....that is all." - Alice In Wonderland

  11. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Why do midwits always try to argue that the sith are the good guys?

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Because moronic ideas require mental effort to rationalize and midwits equate that with being a smart idea.

  12. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    So if police come to arrest you, then you can kill them and claim self-defence?

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      If the police are corrupt and have no valid reason to arrest me, yes.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        lmao. yes I'm sure that logic wouldn't be abused.

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          Do you think Kyle Rittenhouse should have been arrested for shooting 3 rioters in the middle of a riot destroying his community

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            It wasn't his community though, he drove across state lines. He also bizarrely mentioned the race of the victims in his 911 call (he literally said that he shot a "white guy" as if that mattered.)

            • 7 days ago
              Anonymous

              What does that have to do with what I asked

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                You basic facts were wrong. Frick off leftshit.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                >leftshit

                moron do you think the law is right or wrong for jailing someone for shooting rioters. Start back at the original reply in this chain

            • 7 days ago
              Anonymous

              woah woah woah what was Rittenhouse doing on September 11th???

            • 7 days ago
              Anonymous

              >muh state lines
              I thought borders were imaginary libtard

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            no. the people going after him were going to grab his gun and use it against him.

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          A woman was arrested in NY for trying to evict squatters. Do you think the police were corrupt or not

          This is like the trolley problem. It's a thought exercise where your principles lie

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            >A woman was arrested in NY for trying to evict squatters
            Imagine having so many properties that you don't realize someone is just living in one of them. No sympathy, no concern. Hope they burn her parasitic building down.

            • 7 days ago
              Anonymous

              Die leftist

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                >muh landlord rights
                Shalom

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                >everyone who owns property is a israelite

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                >everyone who owns property owns so many that they forget to do basic checks on them
                I accept your surrender.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                In NYC they absolutely are.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                Let's see
                >LL pays for the property itself, maintains it, takes care of most if not all issues, legal bullshit
                >tenant just has to pay back in return

                This is no different than those entitled college gays screeching for muh pay my student loans. You're naive so you act like a smug teenager that le knows it all mannnnnnn

                And the worse part is I'm probably around the same age as you but you're a homosexual who doesn't even know what responsibility is

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                You are not entitled to just waltz into someone else's house. Sorry if this makes you mad.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      That happened in Texas. They entered a man's house without the proper warrant, he defended himself, and won the case.

  13. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    >I'm a Jedi and I heckin love democracy!
    >democracy is the greatest and best system in the whole galaxy
    >..........
    >NOOOOOO WTF URE NOT SUPPOSED TO VOTE FOR THAT!!

  14. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    I mean there's the whole "starting the war" thing...

  15. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    He committed conspiracy to create a massive galaxy spanning war that killed millions to get himself in a position of political power. Worse than treason, I don't even know what you would call that.

  16. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    >orders genocide not 10 minutes later
    Sith is a religion of peace.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      But the jedi were gonna genocide him first

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Completely justified considering the entire Jedi order is coming to get him. Need to strike first. No half measures.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Technically, if you go strictly by what Sheev actually carries out, it's a purge of political enemies and inconvenient tools. Not really a genocide, more like Sheev's own version of the Night of the Long Knives.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Have you seen how many Order 66 "survivors" there are?
      >I swear there are more every year!
      >And where are the supposed Jedi lampshades we've heard about?

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      >The israelite cries out in pain as he stabs you.
      They tried to kill him first. What was he supposed to do?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      It's just democracy in action.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      if you're referring to order 66 then the correct term would be "religious persecution" or "religious purge"

  17. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    >loses lightsaber fighting Mace Windu
    >somehow has his lightsaber again when fighting Yoda
    >TCW shows Sheev dual wielding explaining why he had another dildosaber
    At least the "somehow" was easily justified before Disney instead of "story for another time"

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      He has multiple sabers, this is easy. Clearly the Sith don't have some kind of special bond with a particular saber like Jedi do.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        The argument wouldn't have even existed if TFA didn't put so much importance on Anakin's youngling slayer 2000 lightsaber that Luke lost and was rightfully never mentioned again. And then Rey has the audacity to hold that lightsaber in her hand while looking at some dumb knife and say 'oooh this artifact has done terrible things, but this school shooter murder weapon in my other hand is totally fine". Even Rian Johnson destroyed the lightsaber and JJ still brought it back.

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          In all fairness, "Star Wars" emphasizes this to a degree when Obi-Wan first gives his to Luke, and later on in RotJ when The Emperor is sarcastically admiring Luke's new saber. Hell, I think Darth Vader even has a line about it at one point, maybe in Empire. Lightsabers being the galactic equivalent to Excalibur was stupid, but it was also dumb in the Prequels when they're just portrayed constantly and as regular swords, particularly when wielded by morons who have no fricking idea what they're doing, picture completely unrelated. The Force should have been more prevelant in the choreography, rather than some background implication of prescience. These homies should be fricking up the dance floor constantly with force techniques to create the window of opportunity for the saber, but instead it's just space knights slapping the blade together awkwardly.

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            >picture completely unrelated

            • 7 days ago
              Anonymous

              RIP Cool-Man Trebor

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          >TFA
          Stopped reading there.
          It's non-canon fanfiction. Scratch that, it's worse than 90% of fanfiction.
          Absolute moron moment.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        >He has multiple sabers, this is easy. Clearly the Sith don't have some kind of special bond with a particular saber like Jedi do.
        Don't the sith kill jedi and turn their sabers to red through terrible unnatural rites? He could have many sabers, mostly as trophies.

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          That wasn't canon at the time the prequels were being released.

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            >That wasn't canon at the time the prequels were being released.
            Yeah I figured it was nu-lore added sometime later. Did sithssies just used to build their own sabers the same as jedi then?

            • 7 days ago
              Anonymous

              Yes except the red crystals are synthetic

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          >turn their sabers to red through terrible unnatural rites?
          Can I get a qrd on lightsabers? I thought they were just a weapon that theoretically anyone could learn to use, but force users can access special techniques for.
          I just assumed if your lightsaber got lost or broken that the Jedi issued you a new one.

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            >I thought they were just a weapon that theoretically anyone could learn to use

            Even before Disney started adding all the new shit, lightsabers were long regarded as hard for non-Force users to wield for the very good reason that their blades, being made of light, have no weight at all. It's not anything like swinging a normal sword, and if you don't have a very good awareness of what you're doing it's easy to just flip them around and cut your own arm off or put it through your chest. Connection to the Force helps with the spatial awareness necessary to compensate for this.

            Also the precognition abilities of Force users help when using a lightsaber to deflect blaster bolts, which is one of their primary utilities in combat.

            So you CAN use a saber without the Force, but it's a lot more difficult.

            • 7 days ago
              Anonymous

              Can't they just redirect lasers with the Force? More and more the lightsaber just seems like an unnecessary gimmick.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Can't they just redirect lasers with the Force? More and more the lightsaber just seems like an unnecessary gimmick.
                I think the difference with the saber is that the laser isn't really moving but the hilt is, if we go by the jedi academy games which sorta fill in gaps of how or why jedi fight, they cloak themselves in the Force to keep from being interfered with when their opponent uses the force. Like Ki from DBZ.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                So what's to prevent a force user from using a blaster and just constantly redirecting bolts at every angle of their target and just completely blasting a lightsaber-wielder's ass to the galaxy's equivalent of hell and back? Just fire like three shots to the left, right and above the target, then release 'em in an instant.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                >So what's to prevent a force user from using a blaster and just constantly redirecting bolts at every angle of their target and just completely blasting a lightsaber-wielder's ass to the galaxy's equivalent of hell and back? Just fire like three shots to the left, right and above the target, then release 'em in an instant.
                I mean nothing until a jedi uses the environment to knock them over or just redirecting the bolts back. It's like a chess game where each move matters and the wrong read gets you killed.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                Couldn't the force user cloak the bolts in force, or ki? Presumably the lightsaber would have to be cloaked, including the light, because otherwise there's nothing to prevent the opposition from bending it to slice off the wielder's appendages.
                Startin' to get the impression that lightsabers have no purpose and are destroyed by the universe's own internal logic.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                Again you just seem to assume that any force user of any ability would just let them do that, stopping bolts has also only been done by extremely powerful force users (seems to be harder the faster it's going implying more velocity requires more strength to get it to hold still) and also takes quite a bit of concentration, which would leave the user open to attack.
                The logic seems to work out fine.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                What would they do to prevent it? If you're cloaked in force-ki or whatever, and the lightsaber user is a good length away, what's he gonna do? It can't require much concentration or strength, I mentioned an equivalent that all saber users must be doing constantly: cloaking the saber to prevent tampering. So it's either standard practice, or 99% of Jedi are just open to any above-average force user to cut their arms off with their own arbitrary weapon.
                In what context does the lightsaber serve any purpose? I guess if you need to cut through a door or something.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                >What would they do to prevent it? If you're cloaked in force-ki or whatever, and the lightsaber user is a good length away, what's he gonna do? It can't require much concentration or strength, I mentioned an equivalent that all saber users must be doing constantly: cloaking the saber to prevent tampering. So it's either standard practice, or 99% of Jedi are just open to any above-average force user to cut their arms off with their own arbitrary weapon.
                That's where you're wrong it requires so much strength to hold a blaster bolt in place that the jedi usually is stuck to the floor in concentration, it's why deflection is so much more common.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                This wouldn't impact the user firing the weapon. They don't have to move and have all day to concentrate, because their opponent is a moron with a melee weapon a mile away.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                >This wouldn't impact the user firing the weapon. They don't have to move and have all day to concentrate, because their opponent is a moron with a melee weapon a mile away.
                You do know they can move and run faster with the force yeah?

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Obi-Wan kind of forgot about Force Run™
                Tell me that shit don't take up a lot of energy lol, cause literally nobody else ever uses it, except in video games I guess, and even then it's more of just a standard action game gap-closer. If anything that's just making it easier for the laser.
                Pic related, what's the difference between doing this gay earthbending shit and just subsituting the rocks for lasers? Hell, does Vader's patented lightsaber throw cost a lot of force energy? Just carry a baker's dozen lightsabers around and throw them at your opponent lmao. Use your super force speed to throw 'em real fast. Chuck 'em like a spear.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Obi-Wan kind of forgot about Force Run™
                Tell me that shit don't take up a lot of energy lol, cause literally nobody else ever uses it, except in video games I guess, and even then it's more of just a standard action game gap-closer. If anything that's just making it easier for the laser.
                Pic related, what's the difference between doing this gay earthbending shit and just subsituting the rocks for lasers? Hell, does Vader's patented lightsaber throw cost a lot of force energy? Just carry a baker's dozen lightsabers around and throw them at your opponent lmao. Use your super force speed to throw 'em real fast. Chuck 'em like a spear.

                >Pic related

            • 7 days ago
              Anonymous

              You can replicate this by just waving a torch around, it's not that hard. Apparently lightsabers have a weird gravitational pull though.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >Also the precognition abilities of Force users help when using a lightsaber to deflect blaster bolts

              Luke blocks laser bolts maybe what, twice in the whole original trilogy? Both being knee-jerk reactions because they caught him with his pants down. I hate how this became an intentional purpose for the saber, when it was just a weapon to showcase how old the Jedi were by giving them very outdated future tech from an "ancient religion". Vader even very casually blocked a laser bolt with his hand. Swarms of Jedi charging infantry fire with nothing but melee weapons was completely moronic looking

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Swarms of Jedi charging infantry fire with nothing but melee weapons was completely moronic looking
                How did the Jedi lose this btw?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                They lost because there were literally endless hordes of drones pouring into the stadium and only like a few dozen Jedi.
                Even if one Jedi takes out 200 drones before one gets a lucky shot in, that's acceptable.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                High amounts of droids that won't stop coming because there is a droid factory just nearby although the battle is poorly directed not really conveying the immense danger the jedi are in.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                umm you clearly haven't read AotC novelisation (the 1000 page extended version, approved by George Lucas btw) or the 10000 page supplementary lore book (The Episode 2 Improved Edition, also approved by Mr. Lucas) which provide comprehensive and multi-layered explanations for the silly questions of uneducated "movie-only fans".

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Obi-wan trains Luke to block blaster bolts as lesson 1 of lightsaber/force combat training all the way back in the original movie so that seems like a weird complaint

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            >Can I get a qrd on lightsabers? I thought they were just a weapon that theoretically anyone could learn to use, but force users can access special techniques for.
            >I just assumed if your lightsaber got lost or broken that the Jedi issued you a new one.
            I don't know the timeline of all lightsaber lore but from the original three movies where Luke builds his own I think the intention was that you personally always are responsible for keeping yours in working order or creating a new one. Probably for the samurai or knight trope of taking care of your own sword by sharpening it, which you obviously don't need to do with a lightsaber.

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          no, that's nu wars shit, sith just make their own synthetic crystal

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          What kind of unnatural rites? Like they stick the lightsabers up their ass?

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            >What kind of unnatural rites? Like they stick the lightsabers up their ass?
            No if I recall the Kyber crystal has the force and you can torture it till it screams and turns red or something. It's kinda lame.
            I looked around the internet for explanations of lightsaber crystals before that lore and it looks like they just used to be focusing crystals and gems, with some being rare.
            Think I prefer the old lore.

            • 7 days ago
              Anonymous

              old lore was kinda goofy with crystal power levels but red crystal being synthetic at least made sense

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Not only that, but in nu-canon, kyber crystals are also somehow semi-sentient. Nu-lore manages to get even more moronic than old lore most of the time. The synthetic crystals reason was sufficient and simple.

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            >homosexualry and sodomy are part of the ways of the Sith

            You know this feels like the kind of thing that George would randomly make canon.

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            I always assumed this was part of the process for making a horcrux.

            • 7 days ago
              Anonymous

              Why didn't He Who Shall Not Be Named (Voldemort) make like six million horcruxes and mail them to space?

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                Not to derail the thread but this was one of the few things in HP that actually did make sense. A normal person would probably just make a rock their horcrux and throw it in the pacific ocean with enchantments so it doesn't erode, but Voldemort was a special snowflake who wanted his horcruxes to be extra special and meaningful. It was in character for him to make them the way he did.

                >I always assumed this was part of the process for making a horcrux.
                I bet the final secret step hermione never read out is just jerking off over the corpse.

                >I always assumed this was part of the process for making a horcrux.
                I bet the final secret step hermione never read out is just jerking off over the corpse.

                Apparently some HP encyclopedia years ago was supposed to disclose the instructions but the publisher felt ill after reading them. I always assume it was some maximum cringe edgemaster shit as opposed to genuinely disturbing.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                the horcruxes are needed to actually revive the person, throwing it in the ocean would be moronic

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                >the horcruxes are needed to actually revive the person, throwing it in the ocean would be moronic
                What no they're not, they're phylacterys same as the lich version though much less powerful since you're only ever returned to mortal form rather than becoming an immortal skeleton.
                They only need to keep existing to stay working.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                maybe I am thinking of Pettigrew having to chop his hand off or something, unless.... maybe his hand was a secret 8th horcrux

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                >maybe I am thinking of Pettigrew having to chop his hand off or something, unless.... maybe his hand was a secret 8th horcrux
                That was part of the revival spell and probably more of a loyalty test for pettigrew than it was necessary. If we can conclude that Voldemort wrote the spell and could alter it any way he wanted. Making it painful for Pettigrew for taking all that time to come find him is well within his character.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >ressurect in space
                >die
                >repeat forever
                good idea bro

            • 7 days ago
              Anonymous

              >I always assumed this was part of the process for making a horcrux.
              I bet the final secret step hermione never read out is just jerking off over the corpse.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      he had two

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Sabers are mere tools without connection s for a sith

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        A stupid change, given the Sith adopted the lightsaber technology that Ajunta Pall and the Dark Jedi exiles brought with them to Korriban, and they very much had connection to their lightsabers, thanks in no small part to Sorzus Syn's alchemical mastery of crystal forging.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Did he really lose it? It looks like it just fell both times. They could’ve picked it up later.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      It always amuses me that Sidious probably had the most expensive pair of lightsabers to exist in lore.

  18. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    The core of this is society is a meme and has always been a democracy is a moronic system that even the Greeks tried to warn you about

    >My side does it, good
    >Their side does it, bad

  19. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Why did Padmé call for a vote of no confidence in Chancellor Valorum?

  20. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Why didn't Palpatine just secede from the Republic

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Why didn't the Millennium Falcon just fly the torpedoes into the Death Star?

  21. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    started a war by playing both sides

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds like Israel

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        yeah that's why Lucas was based and mutts hated the prequels for being too complex for them

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      >If both sides were moronic enough to fall for it, what makes them worthy of determing what is and isn't criminal behavior?
      Just a friendly reminded that the Senate was notoriously corrupt for decades before Palpatine, the Jedi had devolved and become ignorant and narcissistic, and the Republic in general was as effective as the U.N., in that it basically didn't exist and every major organization that paid lip service to it were really getting by on their own. Except for Naboo, who appear to be a population of 50 or so people that have no means of survival and contribute nothing to the galaxy, yet demand the Republic help them because the Trade Federation are big stupid meanies.

  22. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Anon he instigated a civil war that killed billions and ended a thousand years of (relative) peace.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Was it a thousand years, or a thousand generations? What did the Empire do worse than the Republic, and how was Padmé and her supporters not to blame? They called for a stronger, more tyrannical leader to overrule the bureaucracy of the Senate in order to suit their needs. They got what they asked for, and then played the victim when it no longer suited their interests.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      >a civil war that killed billions
      of soulless clones and droids. 200,000 jedi tops, mostly from ysalamiri-exposure.

  23. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    >uses hegelian dialectics to create a splinter government with its own army
    >Dooku, his apprentice, agrees to lead this government against the republic
    >if the CIS wins, they must have exterminated most of the Jedi along the way to victory thus guaranteeing the Sith a victory, probably allowing Dooku to take the mantle of Master or at least appearing to be while Palpatine can work in the shadows
    >if the Republic wins, only some of the Jedi die unless the war is dragged out and casualties increase from attrition
    >either way Palpatine wins from the war
    >but their religion is actually okay

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Palpatine never intended to allow the CIS to win. In fact, he had to go out of his way to give Dooku moronic intel and orders to weaken the CIS because it ended up being way too strong and was threatening to win the war.

  24. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Palpi didn't do nuffin wong

  25. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    He was against the ~~*jedi*~~

  26. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    The Jedi maintain "order" which means they also maintain stagnation. For proof look who has the coolest technology, the Sith. Funding important discoveries in hidden labs etc. Creating progress.

  27. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    >uhm actually? yeah the sith weren't thaaaat bad? just a different philosophy and misunderstood! 🙂
    I hate this leftist shit so much.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      >I can't argue my viewpoint therefore I get mad and use insults
      Okay little soldier. Does someone need a diapy change?

  28. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Starting a galactic war.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      The union troops started the war. Well within his emergency powers. If you consider that evil you must also consider the union in the american civil war evil.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        I don't give a shit about your Muttmerican War.
        Sheev was in charge of the ~~*Trade Federation*~~ and the ~~*Banking Clan*~~.

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          No he wasn't and neither of these started the war.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        >the union in the american civil war evil.
        Yes.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >the union in the american civil war evil.
        Correct.

  29. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Cringe

  30. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    the legal excuse for the Jedi's actions was that he was overstaying his time in office after "the emergency" that necessitated he stay in office after his term ended, had by reasonable standards ended (the death of Grevious and the CIS as a military non factor).

    Of course just to cover for the fact that he was a Sith and they couldn't reasonably prove he orchestrated the war, but it wasn't without merit. Not that it mattered because the new regime made the jedi's actions illegal post facto even if it had merit at the time.

  31. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    >What was his crime other than being a different religion
    Didn't he actually have a line like this that was cut? or was it in the novelization

  32. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Are you moronic? He was leading both factions of a sham war.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      >sham war
      >bajillions dead

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      It's called being an enlightened centrist

  33. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    The Jedi only cared about democracy so long as the Jedi order had power. Like the CIA.

  34. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    >than being a different religion?
    Yeah he is crying about this as well... in the novel. To get to your point he send a sith apprentice after other jedi a decade before and he started a proxy war controlling both sides.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty sure Yoda started the war when he invaded Tattooine to save his jihadi friends.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        *Geonosis

  35. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    i'm sure a good case could be made about corruption, undermining the institutions of republic, orchestrating an intergalactic war against the republic through the trade federation, if he wasn't the senate and about to use his emergency powers to reign in the empire in about 5 minutes it might even stick.

  36. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    >be directly implicated in Syfo-Dias's murder
    >be directly implicated in the assassination and kidnapping plots of Padme
    >be directly implicated in the murder chips put in the brains of all the clones
    >be directly implicated in Yaddle's death
    The prequels are fricking moronic anon but he's so obviously a criminal once he revealed himself to be the butthole behind all these deaths.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      > Literally whom
      > Implying that wasn't the trade federation who he eventually killed
      > Implying that wasn't Dooku
      > Literally whom

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        Sideous told them to do it moron, and he's Sideous.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      it was all necessary to stop to yazaa wong or whatever those were called

  37. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    he was a victim of jedi discrimination

  38. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    His crime was fighting for the White race.

  39. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    He can kill all the Jedi, who cares. But did he really have to ruin all the Star Wars normalgay characters' lives after?

  40. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Murder,Treason,Torture,Smuggling,Bribery he did a lot of things.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Don’t forget buggery

  41. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    He was playing both sides to secure power and turn a democracy into a dictatorship.

  42. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Palpy also wanted the galaxy not some state

  43. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Jedi are evil

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      The Jedi aren't evil, they're just lame

  44. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Sithism had been illegal in the Republic for over 1000 years.

  45. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    > anons ignoring the part where the jedi were sent to strong arm the trade feds.

  46. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    In legends, Was Sidious planning to take over Anakin's or Luke's body which is why he tried to groom them to the darkside? Vitiate tried to do that with the TOR Player character.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      That was possibly an option, though Sidious was more keen on finishing Plagueis's research into personal immortality. Essence transfer was lost to the Sith since Darth Gravid destroyed the method how in his insanity, so it would have to be re-discovered.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        I am also confused on who created essence transfer. There were like three different sith who created almost the same technique. Tulak Hord, Darth Andeddu, and Tenebrae (Maybe Karness Murr) etc.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Andeddu gets the credit for it usually, or at least for perfecting it.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      He states something like that in the Dark Empire comics, AKA the first time sigh, Palpatine had returned. Those came out in the very early 90s too. But yeah, he basically says he's going to take over Leia's fetus so he can be born again.

  47. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Jar Jar was really in control the whole time

  48. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    sorry disney bros

  49. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Space Hitler did nothing wrong.

  50. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >religion

    that's not what a religion is you fricking moron. a religion requires a supernatural force or entity. the force in star wars is actually real and the users can demonstrate that

    his crime was literally waging war against the Republic since he was behind the droid army

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >the force in star wars is actually real
      for most people in sw universe it isn't since they can't perceive it.

      >and the users can demonstrate
      the catholic church claims its saints can perform miracles too and some people believe it.

  51. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Why didn’t the Jedi check his midichlorian count?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      He puts fake pee inside his bladder to fool the doping test. Every fricking day.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        What a crafty bastard.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Because he never pretended to be force user and only in Revenge of the Sith did they suspect someone in Sheev's closer circle to be a sith. They never thought the man itself would be the sith.
      >Why didn't they check every politician in the senate before
      Vaxxed?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Sith don’t attract midichlorians

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        You are born with midichlorians. Anakin is a sith

  52. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >this evil guy is using his sway over the government to take control of the world and kill all of his political opponents
    WTF THIS MOVIE IS OFFENSIVE TO ME!

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I wonder what initial fans of the prequels who voted Bush and noticed the paralells to Sheev thought of Revenge of the Sith

  53. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >PALPATINE IS THE SITH LORD

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      why would I believe what dracula tells me?

  54. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder his spin was supposed to be practical. The stunt man couldn’t make it the days they were shooting the fights.

    It could have been very different

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