What was up with Ozai becoming the new firelord?

What was up with Ozai becoming the new firelord? There's that one scene where he brings it up with his dad how Iroh has no more heirs, then the door closes and I guess it was implied he killed him? Did he really commit regicide and no one cared? At the least, you'd think it'd be brought up again. Did they just forget that part? It's kinda all swept under the rug.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >cold hearted villain does something cold hearted
    Yeah, op I'm not really seeing what's so surprising

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's not surprising, the scene is just kinda vague.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, it's a perfect example of "show, don't tell."

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's pretty weird that he'd kill him right then and there.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Why the fudge is that weird? The oppurtunity presented itself and he took it, simple as.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Because Iroh is still the first born? I don't think everyone would just take his word for it. He still seemed quite respected at the time (Iroh, i mean)

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Iroh was distrought over losing his son at that time and undergoing a massive deconstruction with everything he previously believed. He was in no mental posistion to contest what was being done. The philosophy dominating the fire nation at that time was all about eradicating vunerability; so, if you showed any you were ousted.Plus Ozai was cunning enough to probably pull people to his side promising high positions of power and that sort of thing. It's typical coup stuff.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah but that had literally just happened? If it was like 6 months later it'd make more sense.

                Ozai is one of the worst villains ever made. He has zero development and very few screentime despite being the father of one of the main characters (Zuko)
                The final battle sucked, too.

                Millenial spotted.

                Yeah he doesn't get much. There's that weird scene on the beach when they see his baby picture that also seemed kinda out of place.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Yeah he doesn't get much. There's that weird scene on the beach when they see his baby picture that also seemed kinda out of place.

                >That's my dad as a baby. YOU HAVE TO KILL THIS BABY, AANG!

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                They had staged a lie where it was Azulon's dying wish that Ozai specifically succeed him.

                Ozai is one of the worst villains ever made. He has zero development and very few screentime despite being the father of one of the main characters (Zuko)
                The final battle sucked, too.

                Millenial spotted.

                He doesn't need that much development because he's not supposed to be that complex. He's a simple example of a figurehead cosumed by the wrong principles. It's some respects, less is more.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Nah, he sucks. They should have had Azula take over and be the final boss.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >why the fudge

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You're just now realizing how ATLA was never good?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      ATLA is perfect, dude.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It really isn't.
        Unironically, Naruto is better.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          ATLA was exucuted ine a sublimely succint manner, and didn't drag things out with filler

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Ozai is one of the worst villains ever made. He has zero development and very few screentime despite being the father of one of the main characters (Zuko)
        The final battle sucked, too.

        Millenial spotted.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          What does a demigraphic have to do with objective truth?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Ozai isn't a villain who needs development. That's Azula's place in the story. Ozai is just meant to be an overwhelming and semi-inhuman force.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            he never really feels threatening tho Iroh is supposed to be as strong or stronger than him.
            Another thing, why did Sokka lose his sword at the end? He just kinda drops it, was that part really necessary? They get saved right after anyway

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              He lost the boomerang too. It was supposed to be sacrifice.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                yeah but then Suki shows up out of no where. also the sword was special

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Nice bait OP but it's impossible to ignore Ursa's role in the whole thing.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Zuko's Mom killed Sozin and they lied that his dying wish was for Ozai to take the throne since Iroh's bloodline was dead. It's spelled it very explicitly if you paid attention, she did it because otherwise they'd have to kill Zuko in penance. His mother was then banished for this crime, as Ozai set her punishment.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don't remember that, I remember the part about taking Zuko as penance but nothing with his mom?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Zuko's Mom killed Sozin
      No, she killed Azulon (Sozin's son + father of Ozai and Iroh).

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    In the show, it's implied that Ursa contributed to the situation somehow and got exiled the next day. In the comics, it's elaborated that she poisoned the old Firelord.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    My justification is that many of the 'not-Daimyos' preferred Ozai over Iroh; as after the humiliating defeat in Ba-Sing-Se, the eldest son would have lost both heir and support. And so, very few of the nobles raised eyebrows.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Iroh in general is a little too low key, even with his "humiliation" or whatever you'd think more people would notice his presence.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    He got Zuko’s mom to do it for him then promptly banished her to remove the only witness.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >kill old gay to take his place
    it was a very common thing in feudal ages and it's really easy to hide, who do you think would question it? you think there's some state police who would start investigation? Ozai said "old gay coughed and died" and everyone was fine with that

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Everything is explained in the scene itself. While Azulon still favored Iroh, he would've very little favor with the Fire Nation to be next fire lord since this happened shortly after his failure at taking Ba Sing Sei, in which not he retreated but also lost his only possible heir, while Ozai still had two. The murder of Azulon is left vague but it's heavily implied Ozai created a plan to make Ursa take the blame for the regicide, which is why she disappeared. I think the comics go in depth about this but honestly there no need for it.

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