No it’s more like some higher up wanted to cut costs so they came up with a “new style” where they just skip out on a ton of frames. Really smart actually because the average person will eat it right up
it's a valid comparison in case of this film because it deliberately didn't smooth its animation like a normal film but presented like a laggy video game
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It actually works out well for them because it cuts animation costs but also, since most Gen z'ers are always on their phones, they don't miss much when they look away from the movie. It's the same static frame with some character talking and there's nothing happening.
Yeah why not? They are both 100% CGI at this point and every year AAA games become more and more "watch" and less and less "input." Probably by 2030 we'll hit an inflection point where movies and games just merge completely in Unreal 6 and every piece of media is some weird mashup of interactive media. People will goggle into VR "goovies" from their leased PlayStations and play-watch the latest releases. All that to say that yeah sorry games and movies are pretty much the same dumb shit cut from the same millennial writing rooms made in the same stupid CGI engines.
it's a valid comparison in case of this film because it deliberately didn't smooth its animation like a normal film but presented like a laggy video game
Yeah why not? They are both 100% CGI at this point and every year AAA games become more and more "watch" and less and less "input." Probably by 2030 we'll hit an inflection point where movies and games just merge completely in Unreal 6 and every piece of media is some weird mashup of interactive media. People will goggle into VR "goovies" from their leased PlayStations and play-watch the latest releases. All that to say that yeah sorry games and movies are pretty much the same dumb shit cut from the same millennial writing rooms made in the same stupid CGI engines.
Is this animation style the ultimate boomer filter?
I agree the animation is good and unique but they are essentially animating a 30 minute movie then chopping the animation down by like 40 frames per second. Rather it is clever or lazy you decide.
i must have a fricked up brain because i can't stand the choppy animation
What a fricking stupid thing to say. They still have to do all the designs, storyboards, animation etc of a 90min movie. As far back as The Matrix, you could use AI to extrapolate inbetween frames if you actually wanted to. But they don't! So they didn't! Please stop posting
Yea it’s brain disease called being a contrarian homosexual
I agree the animation is good and unique but they are essentially animating a 30 minute movie then chopping the animation down by like 40 frames per second. Rather it is clever or lazy you decide.
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>THE NPD BOOKSCAN 2021 TOP 20
Let’s take a look at the Top 20 best-selling items on the 2021 chart; it looks like this:
Title ` Unit sales
1 DOG MAN: MOTHERING HEIGHTS: A GRAPHIC NOVEL (DOG MAN #10) PILKEY, DAV 1,295,470
2 cat KID COMIC CLUB: A GRAPHIC NOVEL (CAT KID COMIC CLUB #1) PILKEY, DAV 617,821
3 DOG MAN: GRIME AND PUNISHMENT: A GRAPHIC NOVEL (DOG MAN #9) PILKEY, DAV 557,918
4 CAT KID COMIC CLUB: PERSPECTIVES: A GRAPHIC NOVEL (CAT KID COMIC CLUB #2) PILKEY, DAV 424,094
5 DOG MAN: FOR WHOM THE BALL ROLLS: A GRAPHIC NOVEL (DOG MAN #7) PILKEY, DAV 331,928
6 CLAUDIA AND THE NEW GIRL: A GRAPHIC NOVEL (THE BABY-SITTERS CLUB #9) EPSTEIN, GABRIELA 313,092
7 DOG MAN: FETCH-22: A GRAPHIC NOVEL (DOG MAN #8) PILKEY, DAV 291,461
8 THE TWISTED ONES: AN AFK BOOK (FIVE NIGHTS AT FREDDY’S GRAPHIC NOVEL #2) CAWTHON, SCOTT 250,180
9 WINGS OF FIRE: THE DARK SECRET: A GRAPHIC NOVEL (WINGS OF FIRE GRAPHIC NOVEL #4) SUTHERLAND, TUI T. 214,260
10 THE SILVER EYES (FIVE NIGHTS AT FREDDY’S GRAPHIC NOVEL #1) CAWTHON, SCOTT 210,763
Depending on your exact definitions of intended audiences, it appears that seventeen of the Top 20 is intended for children or middle readers. Four of the Top 20 are Manga, and if you are looking for a “Marvel / DC-style” comic, you are not even in the top hundred-and-fifty! In fact, the first DC comic to appear is at #164 with the middle reader aimed Teen Titans: Beast Boy (with Teen Titans: Beast Boy Loves Raven coming in at #200, and former best-selling Watchmen not showing up until #250) As for Marvel? Their very first appearance isn’t until (gulp) alllll the way down at #892 with Infinity Gauntlet
>Over the past decade, sales growth was led by graphic novels aimed at younger readers and manga, both of which were primarily sold through bookstores rather than comic book stores.
That includes manga, I found your chart.
Ther was a resurgence of comics in the late 80’s early 90’s and while it has declined slowly since the 50’s it really only craters completely in the last 15 years or so
Smooth brains think it's about destroying Disney but regular people want the entire industry dead. All capeshit is dying whether marvel or DC likes it or not.
Westerners are the masters of creating unlikable and unmarkettable fiction. Why would Spiderman be black and Hispanic when crime in the US is mostly committed by blacks and then Mexicans? Two wrongs don't make a right.
I cannot fathom what the world will be like once capeshit is good and dead. One year we're going to go without a superhero movie, then it will be two years, and three, and so on, and eventually people will sober up completely and look back at this nearly twenty year long fugue state with disgust and by 2035 at the latest absolutely nobody will spin up one of these visual sharts ever again and that is fricking amazing. Think about it, add up all the money poured into capeshit, even if it's just Marvel and DC movies. In previous eras of history that money would build a fricking pyramid or palace or something. But no, not us. We strapped a bunch of manchildren into spandex fricking suits and danced them around, play acting, for even bigger manchildren to jerk off to. Amazing legacy.
Disney stopped making movies for kids and focused on appeasing the woke parents of those kids and terminally online troony culture warriors. Animation has always been a medium for children and young teenagers but in the last decade animation studios have been taken over by Tumblr gays who think every movie or show should be primarily for adults. Kids hate that shit, they wanna watch goofy shit like Spongebob or fantastical action like Spiderman.
This anon gets it. Disney isn't dumb, they know exactly who their target audience is and it's not kids
You’re both right, but it’s still a stupid decision for Disney long term. Disney will fall into the Harley Davidson trap, failing to pick up a new generation of consumers while the old demographic ages and withers away. Disney should have spent the last ten years getting market share with socially conservative latinos and suburban whites who have a lot of kids. Instead they spent years trying to comply with the increasingly unreasonable demands of aging Disney fans from the 1990s.
When has planning long term ever worked out for a CEO who's only there for a few years? just make short term games and exit while letting some other schmuck deal with it down the line.
The only good disney animated movie recently was Soul which is about a 40 year old man having an existential crisis and coming to terms with that life isn't some race to the finish but rather how you live each day. Disney is also dead set on squeezing every bit of nostalgia out of their pre 9/11 output and can't imagine just making a good movie so it only happens when they get lucky betting on a smaller director getting an MCU movie or Pixar accidentally makes something good.
Disney just decided to make terrible and unfun movies. I don't know why they think movies should be a joyless chores to watch, but that is the direction they've been going.
>Miles >Black kid that likes post Malone >Steals his powers from a white guy >Spends the entire movie as basically a criminal >Cop dad >Mexican mother >Loves a white girl >Goes to a rich school
HE'S JUST LIKE ME
The animation industry formed an antimerit nepotistic commune instead of seeking to advance the animation medium. They imagined that if they just got animation jobs it would be a fantasy career, they didn't need to work at them. Ten or so years later their industry is crumbling although they still struggle to realize it
Also I tried to inspire animation to be better as a teenager but they rejected me
Disney pulled the plug on the Mort 2D movie they were supposed to make after Princess and the Frog. With that, the timeline was fricked. Disney will never make another proper 2D animated film again and will only make CGI slop.
The term "sleep in your laurels" comes to mind.
that's not a term
You mean "resting on your laurels".
But yes, essentially you are correct. Frick the Corpomouse and his perceived monopoly.
All 10 frames a second of them
It’s “rest” you iq defiant plod
Say what you will about the Spider-verse movies but it really did get movie animators to really step their shit up
i must have a fricked up brain because i can't stand the choppy animation
No it’s more like some higher up wanted to cut costs so they came up with a “new style” where they just skip out on a ton of frames. Really smart actually because the average person will eat it right up
It looks like those fairly niche montages where people "animate" something with what is essentially a slideshow of AI prompted images
Yea it’s brain disease called being a contrarian homosexual
that's right buddy. games shouldn't run at more than 30 fps either.
>comparing games to film
it's a valid comparison in case of this film because it deliberately didn't smooth its animation like a normal film but presented like a laggy video game
It actually works out well for them because it cuts animation costs but also, since most Gen z'ers are always on their phones, they don't miss much when they look away from the movie. It's the same static frame with some character talking and there's nothing happening.
Yeah why not? They are both 100% CGI at this point and every year AAA games become more and more "watch" and less and less "input." Probably by 2030 we'll hit an inflection point where movies and games just merge completely in Unreal 6 and every piece of media is some weird mashup of interactive media. People will goggle into VR "goovies" from their leased PlayStations and play-watch the latest releases. All that to say that yeah sorry games and movies are pretty much the same dumb shit cut from the same millennial writing rooms made in the same stupid CGI engines.
Nice summation
Is this animation style the ultimate boomer filter?
I agree the animation is good and unique but they are essentially animating a 30 minute movie then chopping the animation down by like 40 frames per second. Rather it is clever or lazy you decide.
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It gives it a unique style but I hope it doesn’t inspire a lot of imitators trying to save money.
What a fricking stupid thing to say. They still have to do all the designs, storyboards, animation etc of a 90min movie. As far back as The Matrix, you could use AI to extrapolate inbetween frames if you actually wanted to. But they don't! So they didn't! Please stop posting
Either you work at the animation team or you are on their dick for no reason
> Cutting corners with cheap as frick low frame-rate actions scenes.
> Woke homosexualry.
> Stepping up.
Get a real job.
Shower and clean your room already
MUST.DEFEND.GOYSLOP
Please!
shit looks like cal arts shit too
Catering to females does not work anymore.
They are glued to their phones.
Frozen was 10 years ago.
Catering to females never worked
They are notoriously fickle and allusive
No tetraplegic spider-lesbo
She’s in the film
>it's real
damn, why aren't comics selling anymore?
They're selling better than ever
How much of that is manga shill? Didnt one manga outsell the entire western comics industry last year?
they don't count manga, this is strictly comics
>That cope
That IS manga moron. Demon Slayer ALONE outsold the entire comic industry
Source?
how much of that is manga?
lol, Kimetsu alone outsold the entirety of the US comic market last year.
>THE NPD BOOKSCAN 2021 TOP 20
Let’s take a look at the Top 20 best-selling items on the 2021 chart; it looks like this:
Title ` Unit sales
1 DOG MAN: MOTHERING HEIGHTS: A GRAPHIC NOVEL (DOG MAN #10) PILKEY, DAV 1,295,470
2 cat KID COMIC CLUB: A GRAPHIC NOVEL (CAT KID COMIC CLUB #1) PILKEY, DAV 617,821
3 DOG MAN: GRIME AND PUNISHMENT: A GRAPHIC NOVEL (DOG MAN #9) PILKEY, DAV 557,918
4 CAT KID COMIC CLUB: PERSPECTIVES: A GRAPHIC NOVEL (CAT KID COMIC CLUB #2) PILKEY, DAV 424,094
5 DOG MAN: FOR WHOM THE BALL ROLLS: A GRAPHIC NOVEL (DOG MAN #7) PILKEY, DAV 331,928
6 CLAUDIA AND THE NEW GIRL: A GRAPHIC NOVEL (THE BABY-SITTERS CLUB #9) EPSTEIN, GABRIELA 313,092
7 DOG MAN: FETCH-22: A GRAPHIC NOVEL (DOG MAN #8) PILKEY, DAV 291,461
8 THE TWISTED ONES: AN AFK BOOK (FIVE NIGHTS AT FREDDY’S GRAPHIC NOVEL #2) CAWTHON, SCOTT 250,180
9 WINGS OF FIRE: THE DARK SECRET: A GRAPHIC NOVEL (WINGS OF FIRE GRAPHIC NOVEL #4) SUTHERLAND, TUI T. 214,260
10 THE SILVER EYES (FIVE NIGHTS AT FREDDY’S GRAPHIC NOVEL #1) CAWTHON, SCOTT 210,763
Depending on your exact definitions of intended audiences, it appears that seventeen of the Top 20 is intended for children or middle readers. Four of the Top 20 are Manga, and if you are looking for a “Marvel / DC-style” comic, you are not even in the top hundred-and-fifty! In fact, the first DC comic to appear is at #164 with the middle reader aimed Teen Titans: Beast Boy (with Teen Titans: Beast Boy Loves Raven coming in at #200, and former best-selling Watchmen not showing up until #250) As for Marvel? Their very first appearance isn’t until (gulp) alllll the way down at #892 with Infinity Gauntlet
Captain Underchads, rise up!
>charts with no sources
ok, I believe you
>Over the past decade, sales growth was led by graphic novels aimed at younger readers and manga, both of which were primarily sold through bookstores rather than comic book stores.
That includes manga, I found your chart.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/robsalkowitz/2022/07/05/2021-comic-sales-were-up-up-and-away-at-a-record-2-billion/
>They're selling better than ever
Based. Woke win! Vive la LGBTQ+!
Just like my gundam!
wow
Oof!
Comics have had poor sales since the 90s, long before manga became mainstream in the US
Ther was a resurgence of comics in the late 80’s early 90’s and while it has declined slowly since the 50’s it really only craters completely in the last 15 years or so
Is the web coming out of the end of her crutches? How does that work?
obviously they also work as web shooters
>lesbo wears rainbow clothing
it's like a joke
Why is she a lesbo ?
because being woman and paraplegic superhero doesn't check enough boxes
cmon now
they could have made her fat and black
Because she has no feeling down there
couldn't web-flinging with paralyzed legs lead to them being whipped around and breaking shit without knowing, leading to embolism and stroke?
When I was a kid I was never really into comics but I always thought marvel was gay shit
I mean more than comics are initially
ugly characters
shitty animation
honestly the most disturbing trend in modern animation used to be calarts style models being applied to everything
Now it's a combo of shitty framerate (often less than 10fps for casual scenes) and terrible choreography.
calarts is still a thing, sadly
god this movie looks so shit and nobody cares about it, what went wrong with pixar
>what went wrong with pixar
it was bought by disney
SpiderHispanic looks like ugly cal arts shit too
Nobody buys miles morales' comic books. Nobody buys his toys.
Pathetic unloved character.
dont care still celebrating the mouse's death
Smooth brains think it's about destroying Disney but regular people want the entire industry dead. All capeshit is dying whether marvel or DC likes it or not.
Your cape slop will die too soi man
Westerners are the masters of creating unlikable and unmarkettable fiction. Why would Spiderman be black and Hispanic when crime in the US is mostly committed by blacks and then Mexicans? Two wrongs don't make a right.
>mostly
Actually most crime is committed by whites
Fact checking!!!!!
Keep telling your self that npc
Sorry, meant to say violent crime
Black Spider-Man makes NO SENSE
Everyone is black nowadays
what a dumb racist comment
Serves Disney right for putting homos in Strange World. Anyone who defends that deserves to fricking die!
I'm conflicted: Anything shitting on Disney is good but this is Spider-Black person which is little better than woke Disney
>wait, churning out the same film again and again with identical lazy art styles isn't what audiences want?
>a-are you sure?
I cannot fathom what the world will be like once capeshit is good and dead. One year we're going to go without a superhero movie, then it will be two years, and three, and so on, and eventually people will sober up completely and look back at this nearly twenty year long fugue state with disgust and by 2035 at the latest absolutely nobody will spin up one of these visual sharts ever again and that is fricking amazing. Think about it, add up all the money poured into capeshit, even if it's just Marvel and DC movies. In previous eras of history that money would build a fricking pyramid or palace or something. But no, not us. We strapped a bunch of manchildren into spandex fricking suits and danced them around, play acting, for even bigger manchildren to jerk off to. Amazing legacy.
>by 2035 at the latest absolutely nobody will spin up one of these visual sharts ever again
Try 2025. Not even Reddit likes capeshit right now
>Fugue state
Kek
Very nice summation of my feeling senpai
Disney stopped making movies for kids and focused on appeasing the woke parents of those kids and terminally online troony culture warriors. Animation has always been a medium for children and young teenagers but in the last decade animation studios have been taken over by Tumblr gays who think every movie or show should be primarily for adults. Kids hate that shit, they wanna watch goofy shit like Spongebob or fantastical action like Spiderman.
This anon gets it. Disney isn't dumb, they know exactly who their target audience is and it's not kids
You’re both right, but it’s still a stupid decision for Disney long term. Disney will fall into the Harley Davidson trap, failing to pick up a new generation of consumers while the old demographic ages and withers away. Disney should have spent the last ten years getting market share with socially conservative latinos and suburban whites who have a lot of kids. Instead they spent years trying to comply with the increasingly unreasonable demands of aging Disney fans from the 1990s.
I guess they are hoping the future generation of Disney owners figures a solution out by then
When has planning long term ever worked out for a CEO who's only there for a few years? just make short term games and exit while letting some other schmuck deal with it down the line.
This is how they run the world economy and it seems to be working so far kek. Feel bad for our grandkids
Quality post
>Strange World
this was released like half a year ago. Is Disney even trying anymore?
Elemental is coming out on the 16th, same day as The Flash so idk how that's gonna go
The only good disney animated movie recently was Soul which is about a 40 year old man having an existential crisis and coming to terms with that life isn't some race to the finish but rather how you live each day. Disney is also dead set on squeezing every bit of nostalgia out of their pre 9/11 output and can't imagine just making a good movie so it only happens when they get lucky betting on a smaller director getting an MCU movie or Pixar accidentally makes something good.
I can't take this multiverse shit anymore.
Every fricking movie needs to have a bloated cast and runtime now.
Disney just decided to make terrible and unfun movies. I don't know why they think movies should be a joyless chores to watch, but that is the direction they've been going.
>Miles
>Black kid that likes post Malone
>Steals his powers from a white guy
>Spends the entire movie as basically a criminal
>Cop dad
>Mexican mother
>Loves a white girl
>Goes to a rich school
HE'S JUST LIKE ME
kys milkman
Diversity man looks like Kroger commercial shit to so I’m not sure that’s the best example
All these animated movies look the same honestly
So which animation studio are they acquiring next?
The animation industry formed an antimerit nepotistic commune instead of seeking to advance the animation medium. They imagined that if they just got animation jobs it would be a fantasy career, they didn't need to work at them. Ten or so years later their industry is crumbling although they still struggle to realize it
Also I tried to inspire animation to be better as a teenager but they rejected me
Disney pulled the plug on the Mort 2D movie they were supposed to make after Princess and the Frog. With that, the timeline was fricked. Disney will never make another proper 2D animated film again and will only make CGI slop.
>wowwee zoweee choppy animations!!
what is wrong with normalgays?
awww sweet a schizo thread
Thought I was in one of those shitty east vs west threads that plague Cinemaphile for a second.