What's the most stupid way a villain has ever gotten away after being captured? I nominate Superior Spider-Man - Goblin Nation.
What's the most stupid way a villain has ever gotten away after being captured?
What's the most stupid way a villain has ever gotten away after being captured? I nominate Superior Spider-Man - Goblin Nation.
Whose the other webhead
SM 2099
Oh, I thought it was Miguel but didn't want to assume.
>What's the most stupid way a villain has ever gotten away after being captured?
Beast got away with committing mass enslavement and genocide because nobody bothered to actually punish him.
When was this? I stopped reading X-Men stuff back in 2007.
X-Force shit on Krakoa. Short version:
>Mutants aren't allowed to go around killing people
>This actually includes X-Force
>Beast doesn't give a shit and is running around carrying out political and economic hits behind their back to promote Krakoan interests and is basically a villain at this point
>Latin American country starts developing symbiotic plant-based biotech that threatens mutant economic hegemony
>Son of the nation's leader (correctly) thinks the mutants are bad news but (stupidly) fakes his own kidnapping in a bid to force the nation to diplomatically distance from Krakoa
>He was also the lead on the biotech project and his team are all infected with it and defending their base
>Beast thinks this is a golden opportunity to frame researchers as soulless cyborgs taken over by their own technology and turned into proto-Sentinels so the X-Force slaughter them mercilessly
>After using his friends and allies for a bit of wanton murder they "rescue" the president's son whereupon Beast reprograms the symbiotic plant tech so it EATS PART OF HIS FRICKING BRAIN so he can't tell his dad or the X-Force what the frick really happened, but they still get brownie points for "rescuing" him
>Making the tech carnivorous and leaving it unmonitored has the unfortunate side effect of putting it on the same wavelength as a local evil plant god which infects the whole damn country with it and starts systematically running through the population with ritualistic human sacrifice
>After the X-Force swoop back in and kill the god, Beast sees this as another golden opportunity...to enslave them and extract their nations resources for Krakoa
This ends when the tech breaks free, has developed a hivemind (wearers don't though), and turns out to finally be working as originally intended otherwise (ie biotech symbiote). The nation demand reparations, and Krakoa pays to shut them up about the mass murder and enslavement.
And the moral of the story is pray for Tony's new rogue god to end all life on earth because Marvel is beyond saving.
I know every comic book series tends to be self-contained, barring crossover events, but shit like this is just fricking moronic.
i would like a return to endless genocides, please
it was repetitive but led to better stories than this
Well then I have good news for you. They retconned x-gene mutants into Deviants so now they just had their million(s) of mutants on Mars slaughtered by the Eternals and the Eternals are trying to slaughter the rest on Earth.
And this genocide is a 2 for 1 special because Tony, while trying to "fix" this, thought it would be a good idea to Frankenstein up a celestial without an off switch so now all life on Earth is going to be destroyed.
Also this is all part of an evil (good) plan by robots trying to genocide mutants to keep them from genociding humans (because as clearly demonstrated by the mass murder and enslavement they've already fricking engaged in with zero fricking punishment for the fricking perpetrator they absolutely fricking would).
>Also this is all part of an evil (good) plan by robots trying to genocide mutants to keep them from genociding humans
Nimrod stopped giving a frick about humans some time ago. Both humans and mutants will be tossed into the woodchipper if Nimrod gains the means to do that.
I think the robots he means are the Eternals
I didn't actually.
Very well then
kek
Who is the fricking guy who keeps on doing this "Heroes behave like villains, nobody responds accordingly" ongoing plotline. I see it everywhere. It's absurd. It's tiresome.
WHY IS BEAST ENSLAVING PEOPLE WITH PLANTS GODDAMN!
Even when they don't behave like villains they still, either through negligence or buttholery, cause fricking problems.
Happens in movies too. Over 2/3rd the MCU films are disasters set in motion by some "good guy" fricking up somehow or turning outright evil.
>WHY IS BEAST ENSLAVING PEOPLE WITH PLANTS GODDAMN!
Blood and soil.
Better question is why is literally nobody yeeting him into the deepest pit they can fricking find for pulling that bullshit even though it put Krakoa at fricktons of risk and was morally monstrous and he's right fricking there.
Only Emma knows and she was only mad because it would make them look bad which is funny because other books have her doing shit like this like she "cares". Jordon White needs to be fricking fired and replaced by someone who will go and beat some sense into the X-writers until there is consistency. Also say what you will but Percy the guy who wrote this is like one of the few X-writers who are still skeptical about Krakoa and it shows as he has like no power compared to Duggan and his big moment was trying to make sense of Hickman post Inferno scraps
>Only Emma knows
The island is littered with psychics and Jean at the least found out about using the team to commit spree killings by feeding them false info. That's bullshit.
Terrigen has a sentient hivemind. The gas was moving according to the hivemind's will instead of natural air currents to hunt down and transform Inhumans it deemed most useful to it and it didn't care who it hurt or killed in it's wake (and it hurt and killed A LOT of people in it's wake).
Also, the Terrigen inside the Inhumans themselves is still sentient and can retract their powers and possibly worse if they piss it off which keeping in mind there are obligate water breathing Inhumans means it basically perpetually has hostages. Think of it like an evil globe-spanning parasitic alien consciousness because it is.
The thing you have to understand about Terrigen is that under normal circumstances, exposure to Terrigen for a random, pureblooded Inhuman would have a roughly 50-75% chance of coming out of the process a twisted abortion or insane monster with no powers whose existence is only suffering. There would also be a nonzero chance of JUST FRICKING DYING . There's also secondary Terrigenesis. That shit's even more dangerous than the first go around. And Nuhumans aren't random pureblooded Inhumans.
Body count from the evil fart ranged from
>An entire Inhuman town attempting to undergo Terrigenesis and dying save one survivor because no genetic screening (imagine this survival rate for Nuhumans around the planet).
>An entire Inhuman town being destroyed because one dude's power activated and he was a WMD
>The aforementioned 75% figure for human abortions but worse, with many of said abortions being murdered by Inhuman radicals even if they were still sane.
>An entire Inhuman KINGDOM that activated their powers naturally undergoing secondary Terrigenesis and turning into insane gargoyle monsters.
>Also hundreds of thousands needlessly killed in the T-Bomb
The town wasn't nuhumans, they were regular Inhumans that failed genetic screening and fricked off on their own. That's why they knew they would die when the cloud hit.
>The town wasn't nuhumans
I didn't say they were. That's my fricking point. Imagine that rate for Nuhumans who will necessarily have even fricking worse survival rates you fricking idiot.
This is why X-Staff don't let Peter and MJ hate as much as they should, isn't it...
>when every hate crime and violent act against mutants proved to be retroactively justified
Did the plant symbiote thing release the population after it gained self-awareness? Honestly, all this shit should have leaked to mass media. Orchid would have had a field day with this.
>Did the plant symbiote thing release the population after it gained self-awareness?
Released them from Beast's control. Why the frick would it release the population? The entire fricking point of the thing is to work as a symbiote. It was helping them attack Krakoa.
If you have a problem with this then you also need to have a problem with American invention in Latin America irl too
I am historically literate so I do though? The CIA was running ethnic cleansing ops through USAID into the god damn 1990s.
Frick Chiquita and frick the CIA. There are spooks running around that need to be strung up for that bullshit. American criminals in and out of government have been fricking up countries south of the border going back decades upon decades.
In fact we arguably deliberately instigated the Mexican-American War by patrolling within contested territory in order to trigger a border skirmish we could use as a pretext for war to seize territory in a trap which Mexico fell for spectacularly.
Don't forget shit like
>Panama as a whole
>School of the Americas
>Iran/Contra
And more shit I can't remember. And don't leave out Dole and Coca-cola they've been up to some FRICKED shit there too
>And don't leave out Dole and Coca-cola they've been up to some FRICKED shit there too
Explain?
t. not a burger
Have you ever heard the term "Banana Republic" basically the idea is American fruit corps would go to places like Honduras and with help from the CIA, set up shop by buying out the government and turning as much of the country's labor toward banana production with slave like conditions and pay and brutal tactics to crack down on dissent. Coke does much the same in parts of South America. Fun fact this kind of shit is what allowed us to take over Hawaii and induct it into the Union
>If you have a problem with this then you also need to have a problem with American invention in Latin America irl too
Beast gets a pass because he is one of the original five and was a moralgay for decades on end.
Remember that time he gave Sinister that mutant that could track the dying as a literal slave during the Legacy Virus in the hopes Sinister would use her to track down victims of the virus to turn into guinea pigs "for the greater good" to find a cure?
Road to hell, etc, etc.
Beast doing shitty things for "the greater good" is the main reason why he avoids punishment for them.
>then later working alongside the Inhumans to try and resolve the Terrigen cloud issue peacefully
To be fair, why would an X-men fan even like him after doing something like that?
>To be fair, why would an X-men fan even like him after doing something like that?
Because trying to work together to find a solution is a better idea than starting a race war?
>Because trying to work together to find a solution is a better idea than starting a race war?
They fricking had a solution. Destroy the evil fricking gas. The shit was literally hunting Inhumans. Do you have any idea how many fricking people that stuff fricking killed while they were dicking around? Terrigenesis is almost universally fatal for Nuhumans and sometimes for the people around them too if they actually survive and don't come out a twisted abortion of a human being due to AoE power activations.
THE GAS WAS SENTIENT AND WAS BY THAT POINT A FRICKING MASS MURDERER.
>THE GAS WAS SENTIENT AND WAS BY THAT POINT A FRICKING MASS MURDERER.
Elaborate
Nobody that actually read Inhuman books or was at all familiar with how Terrigen actually fricking worked would ever fricking propose anything but immediately nuking the 2nd cloud and Beast with it if he wasn't on board.
Inhumans defending that bullshit would be violating their own longstanding laws about Terrigen exposure and basically be calling for mass human sacrifice. If they wanted to fight to the death over that. Fine. Kill them. They're villains and monsters. Some trash isn't worth defending.
This is on the level of defending Beast trying to talk down a dude running around cutting people's hearts out and offering them up to the Aztec gods. No, you dumb motherfricker, you stop the murderous psychopath. His religion doesn't matter. That he's prepared to defend it to the death doesn't matter. If anything. The latter is an argument in favor for acting as soon as possible with as much force as possible.
Everyone is quick to cry over how the x-men were wronged by editorial but the Inhumans were the ones that really got fricked. The first run of Soule's Inhumans was about trying to stop the cloud. It was killing nuhumans, it fricked up the bird inhumans, and pure blood Inhumans thought it was sacrilege so they weren't even using it for terrigenisis. It's not tell Marvel decided they wanted a hero fight that the Inhumans started protecting the damn thing. It was written as a bad thing for over a year. There is zero explanation for their change in demeanor. Also they retconned the Inhumans into not knowing how to make terrigen even though they have shown doing it. Which means now we are to believe they have been working on a limited supply for the last ten thousand years.
For what it's worth, every time I b***h about the IvX, I come at it from the perspective of what the gas was doing to Inhumans. The event was stupid not because the X-Men were being treated as villains for trying to save themselves. It was stupid because they were being treated as villains for TRYING TO SAVE THE INHUMANS.
Yes, mutants got sterilized, but, Inhumans got dicked over so much worse across the fricking planet. That
>Mutants destroying the gas would be preemptive Inhuman genocide
line may be the second dumbest thing Marvel has ever fricking written given what the gas was doing.
Pic related is the dumbest.
I honestly assumed that Terrigen would be the villain in the end. The two instances where the cloud seemed sentient is when it suddenly makes a U-turn run down a cluster of Inhumans that can't survive teriggen.
This is your reminder that zealots were literally playing stormchaser with the cloud hoping they could run into it and get powers across the globe.
Wonder how many fricking people insta-died from that shit or how many fricking Inhuman orientation operations turned into clean up jobs. Mutant propaganda war would have been going better if they'd shown the world half-baked cocoons with skeletons hanging out.
>Because trying to work together to find a solution is a better idea than starting a race war?
Anon these are X-gays you're talking about they've been chomping at the bit for various race wars for decades because they self insert on the side they think will win
>Bitched out Scott for having a black ops death squad (rightfully)
>Joins Steve's black ops squad and used his role to nuke a terrorist base
>Joins the fricking Illuminati nuff said
>Helped Emma run an ampharetid state
>Now runs Krakoa's GlowBlack folk and pulls shit that would make the Dullus Brothers proud
There is a reason the Watcher came to personally tell him he's a piece of shit, fricker has at some point betrayed everyone he's worked with and everything he used to believe in. Wonderman needs to put him down
Imagine being such an awful person that the Watcher himself personally tells you that he hates your guts
>Sees the actions of all sorts of killers, rapists, racist, genociders, dictators and despots all around the universe and multiverse
>Picks you out of the countless multitude to personally call a piece of shit
If there was ever a sign to commit suicide short of Jack Kirby himself coming to beat your ass that's it
If it was a real writer, we could maybe take that seriously, but all it really means is Bendis hates Beast and used Uatu to make a point of it in his comics.
I think part of that is why Beast is so abused by modern X-books. In the first extinction era, Beast was the moralgay voice of reason against the moral compromises being made under the leadership of Scott and Emma, and the writers kept ensuring Beast was always "wrong", everything Scott and Emma did was always "right" and always "necessary", and also made Beast a hypocrite who couldn't live up to his own moralizing. Beast quitting the X-Men and rejoining the Avengers in the 2010s, then later working alongside the Inhumans to try and resolve the Terrigen cloud issue peacefully led to an insanely radicalized X-Men fanbase calling him a "race traitor", which carried over into the books eventually. Since then they just started demonizing him in another way, making him the monster behind Krakoa's version of the CIA, and worse than most of the actual villains on the island, because a fanbase that already hates him doesn't care about the damage being done to him.
Beast wasn't the voice of reason. Scott was the voice of reason. Beast was the voice of the Professor coming out of a furry blue proxy. The actual good faith voice of moderation for Scott was fricking Storm.
And the quotes on right aren't necessary given the facts of the situation back then.
And you glossed over the fact that Beast joined the fricking black op Avengers team helping them do shit like deploy tactical nukes, the type of shit he might have inanely moralgayged about while with the X-Men when it suited him.
>Beast doing shitty things for "the greater good" is the main reason why he avoids punishment for them.
I take issue with his definition of greater good and would like to point out plenty of villains frame their shit as serving a greater good.
>I take issue with his definition of greater good and would like to point out plenty of villains frame their shit as serving a greater good.
It has a lot to do with his position and standing among the good guys.
Beast has been a respected X-men/Avenger with a reputation of having strong moral sensibilities for decades. He is friends and allies with many X-men and Avengers who treat him like family.
All of that doesn't just go away because he has been doing shitty things every now and then.
Besides, he is still doing good in addition to the evil stuff he does on the side.
>Scott was the voice of reason.
Cyclops turning into Diet Magneto and running his own death squad was at no point the "voice of reason".
>The actual good faith voice of moderation for Scott was fricking Storm.
Storm was barely even a factor in most of those books during the time she was married to Black Panther.
>And the quotes on right aren't necessary given the facts of the situation back then.
The facts of the situation are that Marvel shouldn't have printed a single issue of any of that garbage, and I'm not going to pretend a moment of it is worth defending.
>muh death squads
Look m8, in case it isn't abundantly fricking clear, sometimes b***hes need killing.
Top of the god damn list are Beast, Xavier, Bishop, and Magneto on that note. Scott fortunately got around to one of those shitbags but he's back again.
>Bishop
I wondered why you listed him but I remember that he probably has one of the highest body counts of a single individual in the Marvel universe that isn't a cosmic/demonic entity. Why couldn't we have a younger Bishop come from the future and gun down and replace his corrupted older version like we had with Cable
>Beast, Xavier, Bishop, and Magneto
Why Bishop?
And also, Xavier being at the top of the list is caused by him organizing Krakoa and being responsible for everything bad about it, or about shit he did prior? In that case remind me how much dodgy shit he did before Krakoa.
>Why Bishop?
Murdered most of the planet in other timelines/future (I'm not gonna pretend to know how Marvel time travel works because Doctor Who is more consistent). He's got one of the highest body counts in Marvel in terms of innocent civilians permakilled while not being mind controlled
>or about shit he did prior?
>Pedophile
>Enslaved Danger
>Mind controlled multiple X-Men to stay on the team as his soldiers, including one after Xavier just got his fricking brother killed as far as he knew
>Tried to mind control a woman to stay his girlfriend
>Wiped a dude from existence instead of teaching him to control his powers or preventing the trauma that would tie his power activation to PTSD because "people that powerful shouldn't be allowed to exist"
>Used his powers to psychically compartmentalize all his worst thoughts and impulses instead of being a functional human being until those impulses broke free as an independent psychic entity that committed various atrocities, and is probably doing this bullshit again because if there's one thing Xavier's incapable of doing it's learning a lesson
>Tried to kill Phoenix Cyclops for making the world a better place because of "what he might do with all that power"
>This act of hubris, cruelty, and paranoia ultimately led to one of the worst catastrophes that ever hasn't been reality warped away with who knows how many dead.
Xavier's a violent hypocritical monster with some of the darkest impulses imaginable that uses people like disposable pawns and has an indirect body count in the millions BEFORE Krakoa.
Also
>Consistently failed to advance if not set back the cause of mutants the entire time he's been around with horrific consequences
So just frick him. Killing him was the best thing Scott ever did.
>Spider-Sense Jammer...
If I ever meet Dan Slott I'm gonna bite his nose off.
>I'm going to commit an act of violence over a children's picture book of a man dressed in rights
yes.
You won't get out of a beating that easily, Dan.
>(in Minecraft)
Better run Dan
Normally I think that shit is cringe too but I’m with that other anon, Dan Slott needs a beating.
>Wide New York street
>Miguel is looking right at him
>He flees
>Miguel turns away for some reason
>Looks back
>He's gone
How did Yosemite Goblin get away?
Even better, Norman is depowered. And even better than that, neither spider even bothers to go looking for him. He could hide behind a lamppost and they'll shrug their shoulders and leave.
Maybe Wells hasn't been as bad as I thought. I'm glad to know that this dark chapter in Spider-Man history has lifted.
This was really weird for Liz. After this she's slightly shady in her buisness practices but well intentioned and mostly good. Slott even soft-retconned this stuff to Liz having been tricked by Norman's disguise.
>twice in Slott's run a powerless Norman just runs away and nobody even tries to stop him
At this point, they should just say that Krakoa never stopped being a villain and has been infecting the X-men with mind control spores to make them isolated explosive breeders so the island can feed off more bio energy
Cause that was Krakoa’s original goal. Feeling off the bio energy of mutants
>What's the most stupid way a villain has ever gotten away after being captured?
The power of love.
I don't know, man, I think being saddled with a woman who will continuously cheat on you is quite a punishment.
Counterpoint: Black Bolt's worse than Beast.
Friendly reminder that the people writing this race war fan fiction are all mainstream liberals, and all they're doing is showing their hand. They want every White person dead, as well as anyone that isn't willing to be 100% on board with their entire political philosophy. Make no mistake about it, this shit is on par with The Turner Diaries at this point.
You're also missing out the fact that the majority of the writers are white and the majority of the characters they use to push this are white
So White people can't hate other White people, or their own race? Are we really going to pretend that their isn't a large part of the White population that have been indoctrinated with guilt and self loathing of their own race? Also, the White characters committing the genocides are mutants first, and we all know that mutants are the stand ins for all "oppressed" people IRL. Do I really need to go deep into the weeds and explain how this is all just a thinly veiled wank fantasy where blacks, browns, LGBT's, and israelites finally get rid of White Christians?
You mean like escaping from prison?
Cuz Dr Sivana once used a mathematical equation to phase through the wall.
>Spider-sense jammer
Did she grab it from the batbelt?
I'm curious how it works. His spider-sense warns him of danger, doesn't it? So where's the danger there?
The Ultimate Universe abused the "villain got away with everything because a superhero arresting him violates their civil rights" way too much, so I'm going with that one. There is no way that would ever work, no judge would ever agree with that logic, having your rights violated doesn't invalidate your crimes if there is valid evidence and witness testimony.
Is that page Bendis?
Yes, Bendis would also show a pretty bad understanding of the law in Daredevil and other 616 books.
At least Kingpin getting away had an actual explanation
In the 60's FF, Reed defeats Magneto with a wooden gun, Magneto is taken away in police car
That is some godawful writing, start to finish.
>Scarlet Spider is watching Green Goblin wrestle away from Spider-Man.
>Can clearly see the direction a disarmed, unmasked GG with no tools is running towards.
>Decides not to go and catch him in 3 seconds because holding a woman by her arm is more important.
I don't know which one is more moronic in that page, the writer or the artist.
That one Tom King page with Harley outsmarting the trinity.