What drives Tom, is that he knows we have an opportunity, and uh, to really help for the first time effectively change people's lives, and uh, he's dedicated to that. He's gonna, he's absolutely, uncompromisingly dedicated to that.
>I'll tell you when the torrent come out >I'm too broke to watch it in the cinema as it's meant to be watched, as I'm saving up for my sex change
Christ, man.
top gun isn't a classic.
citizen kane is classic, harakiri is classic.
top gun was and will always be a dumb popcorn flick for gen x morons with no substance or artistry to it.
You sound like a pseud gay who can't enjoy something that he can't add to his list of "intellectual shit I like that everyone else is too stupid to get". Grow up
I'm just glad they had Tom Cruise in an age-appropriate relationship. Tired of seeing Hollywood cast some old male lead with some twenty-something year old love interest who's young enough to be his daughter.
It helps that she's super adorable too instead of a dried up old cunt. Their relationship was like something that brought them back to their youth and it was great.
Yea right. She made me barf my popcorn. They picked a gross woman who couldn't hold a candle to the original girl. And she was just there to belittle tom and knock him down to size.
Good. The story is quite standard and predictable but it is comfy to the max. New camera techniques really paid off and made the flight scenes a lot better and interactive for the viewer. There wasn't really a moment where the story sags and you're bored out of your mind. It is comfy, would watch it again.
Forgot, I think it is better than the prequel which was pretty good but the cockpit scenes always made me break immersion which in this one is not the case.
very good, a bit too much hagiography of Top Gun in the non-plane scenes.
but those plane scenes were legitimately superb, the most stunning action in a movie since Avatar's final battle.
>that's how they lock on right?
I'm not even close to knowledgeable on this subject
but I think it's like radar first by the plane, then the missile itself tracks heat hence flares
I've seen it 3 times in the hall, worth the money. Genuinely a fantastic movie, and even thought it's basically just a remix of the original with Maverick as the teacher it manages to be better than the original overall. I'd say I prefer the original's soundtrack and Goose is way better than Rooster (but a totally different character really)/
first of all it was a rethread of the scene with the hind
second of all if you must have it, don't pull the 3rd enemy out of your ass going head on and have hangman save them from the 2nd one
surprise gunning down 1 and holding out on your own against another is a feat enough
they keep blabbing the whole time about how they stand no chance against 5th gen fighters but they don't show anything for it beyond that wacky maneuver
there's nothing that indicates generational leap in avionics, stealth, long range and other technology
at least the 2 getting into dogfight were plausible enough as they were already close range dude to the enemy apparently having no comms at all apart from that moment when tomahawks hit the runway and there's a cut tothose 2 immediately banking as if they had any way to know what just happened this very second
>cut tothose 2 immediately banking as if they had any way to know what just happened this very second
You do know that the base radioed them about the attack, right? And that the country certainly has access to satellite coverage (if they have 5th gen fighters, they have satellite coverage) to notice the base being blown up
1 year ago
Anonymous
of course I know that is exactly what I'm alluding to but the editing left ZERO time for real reaction and communication it was immediate
yet they get no info about insane unsanctioned lift off from a demolished runway of a non-responding f-14
1 year ago
Anonymous
maybe the com equipment at the airbase was destroyed or everyone else was too distracted putting out fires and pulling people out of rubble to pay attention to the f14 taking off or everyone there just thought the f14 was taking off to stop more attacks or something.
US Army propaganda crap.
I hope this film will not inspire anyone to bomb peaceful cities and there will be few or no people who want to join the air force.
Pretty much this. I wasn't convinced at first (seemed like it was leaning on LE NOSTALGIA and LE FEELS like every long-awaited sequel nowadays) but once they got going on the actual operation it was 10/10. It helps that it had proper build-up unlike the dogfight at the end of the original that felt like an after thought to finish Maverick's arc.
First "action" movie to exhilirate me since Mad Max Fury Road. Guess that's the power of having actual stunts rather than CG shit. I'd recommend seeing at the kinoplex, I think the big screen works great for this film.
Couldn't care for the movie at all outside of the jet stuff. But fucking hell was the jet stuff so goddamn good it makes up for it ten fold. Tom Cruise is genuinely so based for making the other actors go on a 3 month crash course to learn how ro fly jets. Ensuring all the jet scenes are done practically genuinely makes it worth the watch.
The only feeling of pure tension and exhilaration that can maybe match it was the shootout in Heat, or possibly some parts of Fury Road. It's one hell of a ride, nothing else like it. Incredible achievement.
The last movie that felt so exciting and had such well filmed and co-ordinated action sequences was Mad Max Fury Road, though I also loved MI: Fallout. The use of fighter jets and knowing that a lot of it is practical just makes this even better though. I've never seen a movie that made me say "holy shit" so many times.
>When Maverick does a cobra to put himself above and behind Rooster while popping flares to protect him > When Maverick suddenly begins combat and blocks the incoming missile by using the crashing wreckage of the other plane he just shot down seconds before as cover > When the Su 57 does that fucking move
How did Connelly look in this? I remember her still looking highly fuckable in that Alita movie from a few years back but at her age the wall can hit you at any given time.
It had bad pacing. It was obvious they shot like 3 different movies before cutting together the "best" bits into some sort of narrative. A lot of the acting was really poor.
The Maverick/Rooster relationship felt really weird and didn't make a whole lot of sense. It felt like there was supposed to be a lot more development, like we were supposed to see more of their relationship when Bradly was younger. Ultimately it felt like Maverick had just been stalking him his entire life. On top of that Rooster was born in like 83 so he should have been almost 40, but they portrayed him like he was in his mid to late 20's.
Overall its a shame that in "current year" a remarkably average movie is great because it is one of the only releases that Isn't completely pozzed.
saw at museum imax last night, paid extra for preferred seating. pretty packed for a tuesday showing. >nice callbacks to TG, some really trivial >cool opening sequence, very Kosiniski >nice layered storylines >JC ultimate milf >Iceman >incredible inflight cinematography >sound design & scoring was great >went a bit over the top in the end, but fuck it >bring your dad.... >wokeness was at barely acceptable levels
The only reason they weren't using F35s is because there are no two seater F35s right? They can't film the actors in the backseat in the practical shots.
Active service F35s are also super classified - you can't use real, in service ones because they wouldn't let you use the footage. The ones you see in the museums and touring are usually stripped of a bunch of the stuff that is secret.
what possible useful information about them could be taken from the movie that people haven't already seen at airshows? we barely see any shots of the instrumentation or any tech re-outs of any of the planes that are in the movie.
I actually shed some manly tears when Maverick thanked Rooster saving him and Rooster replied that it's what his father would have done. It's feels almost like Maverick got Goose back in a different form.
3/10. Build up to the ending as well as the ending was real dumb. Lets compare it to the end of Star Wars A New Hope with the Death Star run
Star Wars: >rebels talk about how the Death Star attack will be a very dangerous mission, borderline suicide >numerous pilots die in the attack >rebels say that to destroy the Death Star you have to shoot a torpedo into an air shaft. All the pilots say this is impossible but Luke points out "we used to shoot wompa rats no bigger than that" >Luke then shoots torpedo through the airshaft
This is good writing.
Now here's Top Gun Maverick: >Navy admirals and Mav talk about how the attack on the nuclear site will be a very dangerous mission, borderline suicide >but don't worry, literally not a single American pilot dies >Navy admirals and Mav talk about how their F18s are no match for the 5th gen Russian fighers in a dog fight >but don't worry, Mav defeats 2 of these 5th gen fighters with an even older F14 that he stole from a Russian garage (and which clearly wasn't maintained because the ejection hatch didn't work)
This is poor screenwriting.
Or maybe the movie named Top Gun: Maverick is about how Maverick, who you may remember from the movie's title, is a really good pilot and can complete the extremely difficult mission. Or maybe it's also about the fact that the movie states multiple times that it's not the plane, it's the pilot, and in this case the pilot is Maverick, who you may remember as the titular character that the movie frequently establishes is the best pilot.
Nonsense. Even Mav said "we should have F35s against these 5th gens, but since we have to use F18s, we have to avoid dogfighting". The idea that an barely maintained F14 could beat 2 5th gens after Mavs statement is nonsense.
I have watched the movie twice and they never say they have to avoid dogfighting. Dogfighting is literally the reason Maverick is there, as they know the mission will likely require them to engage in a dogfight to escape successfully, and the current generation's pilots have practically no dogfighting experience.
>I have watched the movie twice and they never say they have to avoid dogfighting.
Wrong retard. This is how the first mission briefing goes >"We should go in with F35s, but because of jamming and blah blah we have to use F18s. But waiting for us will be 5th gen fighters and we don't want to engage them".
And at the meeting after Mav is taken off the mission Jon Hamm says "Here's our new plan, if possible you may have to engage 5th gen fighters" and all the pilots mutter under their breath how this is a bad idea.
Got the vibe Mad Men knew it was more or less a suicide mission, as the main obstacle was leaving the target zone and getting back (which came across more difficult then the bomb drop), and was willing to concede losses at that point.
So the canyon run needed to be done at high speed because the enemy knows they will be coming after the cruise missile strike on the airfield. Why couldn't they way until the planes are almost there before launching the tomahawk missiles instead of right as the planes get to the canyon? That way they can go in slow and come out slow without having to take on 9-10Gs. Hell they could even do a loop and come out the way they came in and avoid the sams altogether.
I still don't understand why they were so vague with who they're fighting, it can't be a former Soviet state because they never had f-14s. So that leaves Iran, but Iran doesn't have su-57s and the landscape didn't really look like Iran.
>why they were so vague
Because if it was specific, this board would be swarmed with dozens of threads made by that country's shill bots. Tom was looking out for us
Movies do that all the time because they don't want to get fucking suicide bombed or something. They mention Iran at the start, but the actual country they go to is left vague on purpose though it's still most like Iran.
they uranium enrichment and local ally immediately made me think of iran
I'm guessing they rightfully don't want to antagonize iran for no reason
especially now with the russian oil problems and all, iran is pretty important in that regard
although the decision was probably made long before the war
they were just writing for plot convenience
I'll tell you when the torrent come out
fpbp
Jennifer Connelly is a bully
>runs into the wall, sunglasses fly off
I laugh every time.
seriously how does he get up after that
feet
What drives Tom, is that he knows we have an opportunity, and uh, to really help for the first time effectively change people's lives, and uh, he's dedicated to that. He's gonna, he's absolutely, uncompromisingly dedicated to that.
Deep fake
The way he maintains his Tom Cruise grin the entire time is admirable
>Tom Cruise maintains Tom Cruise grin
?
is this actually him or a lookalike?
that slam into the fence looked quite powerful
rip sunglasses and goddam trannies
Obviously not him, dumbass.
where's the full clip with sound, there has to be more
It's him mate, don't listen to that other guy coping
That can't be him! Holy shit!
gay go watch it on the big screen
based pirateCHAD
>missing out on kinoplex experience
>I'll tell you when the torrent come out
>I'm too broke to watch it in the cinema as it's meant to be watched, as I'm saving up for my sex change
Christ, man.
Imagine unironically simping for Hollywood in a sri lankan rice fermenting forum
Gape a snake gay
unfathomably based
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While I can admire your point, you are missing out by not feeling the vibrations from a fly-by/afterburner that you would get in a theater.
This movie uas to be seen on the big screen. I'm probably going to go again and watch it in IMAX this time (watched it in Dolby the forst time).
you have to see this in the theatre, anon.
Retard
based
2 zoomer sluts were in the ticket line behind me
one of them was telling her mom on the phone about a tattoo next to her pussy she just had done
wait was meant for
also
I suppose
She's so pretty bros...
she aight
Certified K I N O of the highest order
Stamped 11/10
It was great.
>dating single mothers is...LE GOOD?
It's okay when they have teenage daughters who will spend tons of time out of the house before they move away.
Yes, chud, it is.
/misc/ was okay with that when Drive did it.
>Drive
But that was an autistic loser so its ok for him.
Its not ok for someone you'd aspire to be if he wasn't a manlet.
if they look like Jennifer Connelly, sure
It's ok after a certain age
if you're pushing 50 and don't look like Tom Cruise, it's honestly your only option
So good even the Marvel audience watched it
How does that make it good? That would actually mean it’s shit
now i have a single mom fetish
Good movie, better than the original in that you could actually follow the dogfights and flying felt awesome.
Tom Cruise is so unbelievably based. I really love this motherfucker.
>watched the older top gun
>made me cringe
>stopped watching midway through the movie
Not feeling too hyped to watch maverick now
The sequel is much better. They have a mission they must prepare for with real stakes instead of just a dumb contest.
This is why zoomers shouldnt watch the classics. Theyre dumb cunts
top gun isn't a classic.
citizen kane is classic, harakiri is classic.
top gun was and will always be a dumb popcorn flick for gen x morons with no substance or artistry to it.
You sound like a pseud gay who can't enjoy something that he can't add to his list of "intellectual shit I like that everyone else is too stupid to get". Grow up
This adequately describes 90% of the posts on /misc/
>Zoomer
Movie came out when I was born, never seen it. You suffer from rose tinted glasses
I'm just glad they had Tom Cruise in an age-appropriate relationship. Tired of seeing Hollywood cast some old male lead with some twenty-something year old love interest who's young enough to be his daughter.
It helps that she's super adorable too instead of a dried up old cunt. Their relationship was like something that brought them back to their youth and it was great.
Yea right. She made me barf my popcorn. They picked a gross woman who couldn't hold a candle to the original girl. And she was just there to belittle tom and knock him down to size.
Ok gay
Seething roast beef
It's amazing how women seethe when they see a younger woman with an older man
Old roastie or male feminist?
>guy in his 70s doing big risk secret missions
SO REALISTIC HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
One of the most awkward sex scenes I've ever seen and they didn't even show anything. Tom Cruise can't play a heterosexual man
Good. The story is quite standard and predictable but it is comfy to the max. New camera techniques really paid off and made the flight scenes a lot better and interactive for the viewer. There wasn't really a moment where the story sags and you're bored out of your mind. It is comfy, would watch it again.
Forgot, I think it is better than the prequel which was pretty good but the cockpit scenes always made me break immersion which in this one is not the case.
very good, a bit too much hagiography of Top Gun in the non-plane scenes.
but those plane scenes were legitimately superb, the most stunning action in a movie since Avatar's final battle.
just good, definitely not 90% on RT
not amazing, not bad, just good
one gripe
>the terrain will confuse the t50's targeting system
unless it was a lava field, that's unlikely
and they should have had f22s and f35s as backup
F22 and F35 are fat pieces of unsightly shit, unfit for silver screen and action movies. Based Cruise went for style and soul.
I guess, it was better this way so the su57s are the only 5th gen fighters and look distinctly different from the f18s and f14s
even if they used f35s as standby, it would detract from the action, and f22s would look a bit too similar to the su57s
>f22
It’s the NAVY gay. Raptor is Air Force
>unless it was a lava field, that's unlikely
?
heat signatures
that's how they lock on right?
the air force cant send some f22s as backup to help carry out this important mission?
green screen?
>that's how they lock on right?
I'm not even close to knowledgeable on this subject
but I think it's like radar first by the plane, then the missile itself tracks heat hence flares
>green screen?
Tom ain't letting a green screen cuck him out of actually getting to be in a fighter jet.
Why did she lose weight? She was perfect with bigger tits
I've seen it 3 times in the hall, worth the money. Genuinely a fantastic movie, and even thought it's basically just a remix of the original with Maverick as the teacher it manages to be better than the original overall. I'd say I prefer the original's soundtrack and Goose is way better than Rooster (but a totally different character really)/
kino felt like a love letter to that era of 80s-90s action film instead of trying for another rebootshit
Yeah it was a 90s Bruckheimer flick brought to the modern age. Only thing missing was the film grain
I have serious deficit of those nowadays.
Its pretty solid, but predicatble entertainment. 7.5/10
Better than the first film by miles, otherwise pretty good
The flight scenes are the best parts
Depp loses. Cruise is kino. Some things never change.
Glen Powell fucking rocks, and i'd suck his cock
i love how his chad character absolutely mogs rooster all film and saves the day at the end
that whole scene was retarded and pointless and over the top of the over the top shit that already happened
he's iceman 2, and has to do something
He's more like a young Maverick if he didn't had to deal with the baggage of goose's death. Even leaves his wingman in training just like Mav did.
iceman -> hangman
has the cocky face, bullies other pilots
gets humbled in the end (gets outdone by maverick in 1, gets passed over for rooster in 2)
rooster gets to complete goose's arc
maverick is maverick in both
iceman never bullied the other pilots, only called out maverick for being, well maverick.
he spanked maverick with a wet towel in the changeroom, what do you call that? naval affection?
Yes.
or as the british would call it, bantz
first of all it was a rethread of the scene with the hind
second of all if you must have it, don't pull the 3rd enemy out of your ass going head on and have hangman save them from the 2nd one
surprise gunning down 1 and holding out on your own against another is a feat enough
they keep blabbing the whole time about how they stand no chance against 5th gen fighters but they don't show anything for it beyond that wacky maneuver
there's nothing that indicates generational leap in avionics, stealth, long range and other technology
at least the 2 getting into dogfight were plausible enough as they were already close range dude to the enemy apparently having no comms at all
apart from that moment when tomahawks hit the runway and there's a cut tothose 2 immediately banking as if they had any way to know what just happened this very second
>cut tothose 2 immediately banking as if they had any way to know what just happened this very second
You do know that the base radioed them about the attack, right? And that the country certainly has access to satellite coverage (if they have 5th gen fighters, they have satellite coverage) to notice the base being blown up
of course I know that is exactly what I'm alluding to but the editing left ZERO time for real reaction and communication it was immediate
yet they get no info about insane unsanctioned lift off from a demolished runway of a non-responding f-14
maybe the com equipment at the airbase was destroyed or everyone else was too distracted putting out fires and pulling people out of rubble to pay attention to the f14 taking off or everyone there just thought the f14 was taking off to stop more attacks or something.
yeah wtf bro, I'm not gay but that dude, holy shit, made of clay.
US Army propaganda crap.
I hope this film will not inspire anyone to bomb peaceful cities and there will be few or no people who want to join the air force.
>peaceful cities
I hope you're not referring to the middle east by that
>US Army propaganda crap.
>US Army
Tell me you haven’t watched the movie without telling me you haven’t watched the movie
We will see where the F-planes will fly this time and who will be the second Kosovo.
>who will be the second Kosovo.
Hopefully your sad house with your dumb family in it.
that poster is clearly a turd worlder who doesn't know the difference between the army, air force, and navy
(hint: if they land their planes on botes its the navy)
Its the Navy
Hopefully it inspires a bunch of larpers to go buy a motorcycle and get smeared across the pavement
Great movie, go watch it
Yes, colonel, sir! Right away.
Cruise Kino
pure kino
you've gotta watch it in theatres when you can
the whole third act is a wild ride
Pretty much this. I wasn't convinced at first (seemed like it was leaning on LE NOSTALGIA and LE FEELS like every long-awaited sequel nowadays) but once they got going on the actual operation it was 10/10. It helps that it had proper build-up unlike the dogfight at the end of the original that felt like an after thought to finish Maverick's arc.
First "action" movie to exhilirate me since Mad Max Fury Road. Guess that's the power of having actual stunts rather than CG shit. I'd recommend seeing at the kinoplex, I think the big screen works great for this film.
I liked how the Hind felt more like a predatory animal than a machine with people in it
Couldn't care for the movie at all outside of the jet stuff. But fucking hell was the jet stuff so goddamn good it makes up for it ten fold. Tom Cruise is genuinely so based for making the other actors go on a 3 month crash course to learn how ro fly jets. Ensuring all the jet scenes are done practically genuinely makes it worth the watch.
What's a better action movie ? T2 ? Aliens ? It's so fucking good
i haven't watched it
The only feeling of pure tension and exhilaration that can maybe match it was the shootout in Heat, or possibly some parts of Fury Road. It's one hell of a ride, nothing else like it. Incredible achievement.
The last movie that felt so exciting and had such well filmed and co-ordinated action sequences was Mad Max Fury Road, though I also loved MI: Fallout. The use of fighter jets and knowing that a lot of it is practical just makes this even better though. I've never seen a movie that made me say "holy shit" so many times.
>When Maverick does a cobra to put himself above and behind Rooster while popping flares to protect him
> When Maverick suddenly begins combat and blocks the incoming missile by using the crashing wreckage of the other plane he just shot down seconds before as cover
> When the Su 57 does that fucking move
>> When the Su 57 does that fucking move
enjoy, no cg
>tits
How did Connelly look in this? I remember her still looking highly fuckable in that Alita movie from a few years back but at her age the wall can hit you at any given time.
I liked her daughter better
Apparently piss is the cure for aging. She looks fantastic for her age.
It had bad pacing. It was obvious they shot like 3 different movies before cutting together the "best" bits into some sort of narrative. A lot of the acting was really poor.
The Maverick/Rooster relationship felt really weird and didn't make a whole lot of sense. It felt like there was supposed to be a lot more development, like we were supposed to see more of their relationship when Bradly was younger. Ultimately it felt like Maverick had just been stalking him his entire life. On top of that Rooster was born in like 83 so he should have been almost 40, but they portrayed him like he was in his mid to late 20's.
Overall its a shame that in "current year" a remarkably average movie is great because it is one of the only releases that Isn't completely pozzed.
7/10
saw at museum imax last night, paid extra for preferred seating. pretty packed for a tuesday showing.
>nice callbacks to TG, some really trivial
>cool opening sequence, very Kosiniski
>nice layered storylines
>JC ultimate milf
>Iceman
>incredible inflight cinematography
>sound design & scoring was great
>went a bit over the top in the end, but fuck it
>bring your dad....
>wokeness was at barely acceptable levels
perfect summer popcorn kino
American propaganda.
I'm not paying to see that garbage.
Based, foreigner retards should be banned from using cinemas.
You mean to tell me Rooster is like 40 years old? The fuck?
Movie was filmed in like 2018 so I would put him in his mid 30's. Maverick is about 20 years older than him.
Kino sequel. Hit all the parts it needed to and gave use good jet footage.
It’s the greatest film of all time.
The only reason they weren't using F35s is because there are no two seater F35s right? They can't film the actors in the backseat in the practical shots.
That and the navy probably would not allow them to be used for a film, too new and expensive and such.
they probably wanted them to use f35s
Active service F35s are also super classified - you can't use real, in service ones because they wouldn't let you use the footage. The ones you see in the museums and touring are usually stripped of a bunch of the stuff that is secret.
what possible useful information about them could be taken from the movie that people haven't already seen at airshows? we barely see any shots of the instrumentation or any tech re-outs of any of the planes that are in the movie.
>dude just give away military secrets
Thank fuck you're not in charge of defence mate
Don't look at me. I'm not a spy or in the military. I just know what they told me at the Smithsonian when we saw a stripped F35.
>I'm not a spy or in the military.
That's exactly what a spy in the military woudl say!
that is very true. You got me
Yes, and it also fit the script. F18 is a better low level strike aircraft and dogfighter.
it's pretty good but goes too much into capeshit territory by the end
also kosinski is a shit director
Kino
I actually shed some manly tears when Maverick thanked Rooster saving him and Rooster replied that it's what his father would have done. It's feels almost like Maverick got Goose back in a different form.
for me it was when Maverick is talking with iceman and he starts crying and says I don't know how
literally just got home from the theater
i thought it was fucking awesome, probably will see it again
the plane scenes were 12/10
3/10. Build up to the ending as well as the ending was real dumb. Lets compare it to the end of Star Wars A New Hope with the Death Star run
Star Wars:
>rebels talk about how the Death Star attack will be a very dangerous mission, borderline suicide
>numerous pilots die in the attack
>rebels say that to destroy the Death Star you have to shoot a torpedo into an air shaft. All the pilots say this is impossible but Luke points out "we used to shoot wompa rats no bigger than that"
>Luke then shoots torpedo through the airshaft
This is good writing.
Now here's Top Gun Maverick:
>Navy admirals and Mav talk about how the attack on the nuclear site will be a very dangerous mission, borderline suicide
>but don't worry, literally not a single American pilot dies
>Navy admirals and Mav talk about how their F18s are no match for the 5th gen Russian fighers in a dog fight
>but don't worry, Mav defeats 2 of these 5th gen fighters with an even older F14 that he stole from a Russian garage (and which clearly wasn't maintained because the ejection hatch didn't work)
This is poor screenwriting.
Or maybe the movie named Top Gun: Maverick is about how Maverick, who you may remember from the movie's title, is a really good pilot and can complete the extremely difficult mission. Or maybe it's also about the fact that the movie states multiple times that it's not the plane, it's the pilot, and in this case the pilot is Maverick, who you may remember as the titular character that the movie frequently establishes is the best pilot.
Nonsense. Even Mav said "we should have F35s against these 5th gens, but since we have to use F18s, we have to avoid dogfighting". The idea that an barely maintained F14 could beat 2 5th gens after Mavs statement is nonsense.
I have watched the movie twice and they never say they have to avoid dogfighting. Dogfighting is literally the reason Maverick is there, as they know the mission will likely require them to engage in a dogfight to escape successfully, and the current generation's pilots have practically no dogfighting experience.
>I have watched the movie twice and they never say they have to avoid dogfighting.
Wrong retard. This is how the first mission briefing goes
>"We should go in with F35s, but because of jamming and blah blah we have to use F18s. But waiting for us will be 5th gen fighters and we don't want to engage them".
And at the meeting after Mav is taken off the mission Jon Hamm says "Here's our new plan, if possible you may have to engage 5th gen fighters" and all the pilots mutter under their breath how this is a bad idea.
Got the vibe Mad Men knew it was more or less a suicide mission, as the main obstacle was leaving the target zone and getting back (which came across more difficult then the bomb drop), and was willing to concede losses at that point.
>age 20 snags? a 4/10
>age 60 snags a 9/10
way to go mav
your 2nd scoring is totally valid but how much of a gay do you have to be to think the chick from the first one was a 4
it doesnt really matter why they used F18s instead of 5th gens, its not about making sense, its about making you feel cool as hell
5th gen is classified, a civilian wouldn't be allowed near one, never mind a film crew putting cameras in the cockpit and filming manoeuvres
Marvel movie for literal boomers
So the canyon run needed to be done at high speed because the enemy knows they will be coming after the cruise missile strike on the airfield. Why couldn't they way until the planes are almost there before launching the tomahawk missiles instead of right as the planes get to the canyon? That way they can go in slow and come out slow without having to take on 9-10Gs. Hell they could even do a loop and come out the way they came in and avoid the sams altogether.
umm no idea even a minute more would help them a lot
I still don't understand why they were so vague with who they're fighting, it can't be a former Soviet state because they never had f-14s. So that leaves Iran, but Iran doesn't have su-57s and the landscape didn't really look like Iran.
>why they were so vague
Because if it was specific, this board would be swarmed with dozens of threads made by that country's shill bots. Tom was looking out for us
They purposefully left it vague. They say it's a "rogue state". They did the same in TG1, although it was implied it was Libya
They explicitly say Iran later in the movie. Basically right before the mission.
Movies do that all the time because they don't want to get fucking suicide bombed or something. They mention Iran at the start, but the actual country they go to is left vague on purpose though it's still most like Iran.
>They did the same in TG1, although it was implied it was Libya
Those scenes take place in the Indian Ocean and the enemy had MiG fighters so it was probably an Asian communist country like China or Vietnam.
>Asian communist country like China or Vietnam.
Ah, yes. Thanks for the correction, kind anon.
they uranium enrichment and local ally immediately made me think of iran
I'm guessing they rightfully don't want to antagonize iran for no reason
especially now with the russian oil problems and all, iran is pretty important in that regard
although the decision was probably made long before the war
they were just writing for plot convenience
It's literal kino
Jennifer Connolly will still be hot at 70
No matter how fast he can travel, he'll never escape the gay thoughts
Her screentime could have been cut by 90% without changing the movie but also it was based af, I might watch it in theaters again.
Certified Dad-core
It was such a great experience in imax today I took my dad with me for my 2nd viewing, he loved it
if you have imax near you this is your only chance to experience that shit
I cant wait for the cool action scenes to show up on youtube in like 2 months
also hans zimmer score is fucking legendary
Kino and a very rare case of a movie that genuinely pleases all types of audience
kino. soundtrack was really good too, lots of Dark Knight vibes