What's to stop Sauron just creating another ring?

What's to stop Sauron just creating another ring?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He could no longer take any kind of form after the ring was defeated.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why didnt frodo just make another ring

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        he doesn't know how.
        but what if he accidentally brought a normal gold ring all the way to Mt Doom? and he left the one ring back at bag end. haha that would be funny

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          he was at mount doom so he couldve just pushed the button to make a new ring

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      almost all of his power was put into the ring, if the ring was destroyed, so was he

      while the ring existed, so did his power, and so did the power of the other great rings, which allowed the elves to stave off the effects of time and aging

      once the ring was destroyed, the elves had to leave or else they would age and die

      he couldn't make another ring because he had no power to put into one

      he had a physical form, he was missing his finger. he just didnt want to leave his home base because he was weak without his ring

      still strong enough to effortlessly btfo any of the 3rd age elves and by extension any mortal being, but the godlike elves like glorfindel who was stronger than gandalf the grey and possibly gandalf the white would have fricked him up without his ring. or maybe gandalf the grey and galadriel and elrond and a bunch of others could have ganked him.

      the real plot hole is why was sauron able to carry the ring in his spirit form home from numenor, but not this time.

      i also dont like the excuse they give for why glorfindel didnt accompany the fellowship. he technically was repelling all of the evil creatures, wring wraiths, etc just by existing, but him, galadriel, and gandalf could have carved a straight line to mount doom without much effort, since the balrogs abandoned sauron.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How was Sauron missing a finger anyway? It's not like he had the same body as he during the Second Age, the elves and men wouldn't have just left it sitting there after cutting off the ring. But if he can make an entirely new body, why couldn't he make a new finger?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What form? Was Sauron the entire tower + eye?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      1. Sauron used the help (or rather tricked) of an elven master smith named Celebrimbor.

      2. He also had no physical shape. So he couldn't do much in the first place.

      A part of him was merged with the ring.
      He could not be revived without the ring.

      In other words, it's not necessarily the power of the ring he's after, but to be revived. He could always create a new ring of power as you said.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can’t afford the labor costs

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    homie he ded

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    1. Sauron used the help (or rather tricked) of an elven master smith named Celebrimbor.

    2. He also had no physical shape. So he couldn't do much in the first place.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that's why you puppet a human moron

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >SUBMIT YOUR MIND!

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >YOU WILL OBEY!
          Celebrimbor was globohomosexual all along, we just missed the signs.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Celeb rim boy
      Wtf Tolkien?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        literally me

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Rim the ring. You know which one.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >1. Sauron used the help (or rather tricked) of an elven master smith named Celebrimbor.
      Wrong. He forged the one ring in secret.
      >He also had no physical shape
      Also wrong.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      he put a significant amount of his power into the first one
      after it was destroyed, he was rendered impotent

      wrong on both counts

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You are a sad strange little baby, but you don’t have my pity.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nothing you posted is remotely accurate
      He has a body and he knows how to make rings on his own.
      If he had the ring, he could likely make another, although it wouldn't help him at all. Hell, even the one isn't helpful and he absolutely doesn't need it to win.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Hell, even the one isn't helpful and he absolutely doesn't need it to win.
        Yet he needs it to survive. Despite losing the damn thing, he takes no precautions whatsoever to protect himself from it's destruction
        >b b but no one could ever resist the one ring to destroy it. It could never happen!
        I bet Sauron also believed that he could never lose the damn thing in the first place. Would it have killed him to put a fricking door in front of the volcano just in case? Instead a thousand years go by and nothing changes. Imagine Frodo and Sam showing up at the volcano and being all "Well shit there's a door now."

        But no, your big bad is fricking moronic and no one should be afraid of him he's that incompetent.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He was RIGHT though. Even Frodo gave in at the final minute. It took an act of divine banana peel to destroy the ring, which at that point he arguably wins anyway since he (morgoth really) finally made enough of a stink to get god to intervene. He finally turned the car around.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            even when he was right he still somehow fricked up and lost.

            You can't deny a door would have prevented it from happening though.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Lets go over this again than shall we
              >giant green blob spooks an army to death
              How was that hard? All he had to do was be all "I'm the king, now go win a war for me lol you have to" And the ghosts went and did exactly that without any problems.
              >trees easily knock over a damn
              The Ents destroyed the entire base with ease. The hard part would be convincing them but all they had to do was see the destruction of the forest. Doesn't sound like that hard of an argument to be made.
              >Sauron gets his finger hacked off like it's nothing
              On the ground, on his back, and just swings the sword. This would be considered more lucky than hard.
              >Orcs die from a single sword strike despite wearing full plate armor.
              This is just moronic. The orcs were incredibly weak and died without much of a fight. Their armor provided no protection at all and would often drop from a single strike. The armies themselves were easy to kill one on one.
              >Army loses because of bright light.
              "Oh no I can't see too well better put down my weapon and give up." They didn't hold their ground and broke easily instantly because of a bight light.

              How can any of this be considered challenging or hard? ESPECIALLY the giant green ghost blob army. That is like the definition of an easy victory.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Explaining your points in more detail doesn't change the fact you glossed over a bunch of the hard shit.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's the second divine intervention actually. The first was the sinking of numenor and making the world round.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >he takes no precautions whatsoever to protect himself from it's destruction
          Mt doom was normally more heavily guarded but sauron was tricked by aragorn into thinking he had the ring and diverted his forces and attention.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yakubian

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He invested most of his power in the one ring.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This.
      It's like OP asking how come he can't clench his *anal* Ring like he used to, or how how he can pass an HIV antibody test again

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I will make this epic ring and put power in it and then wear the ring so i can have le power. Why didnt he just keep the power in himself in the first place?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He can't hack into the other rings without a ring of his own

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He put all his power in the ring, the bad guys in LOTR have limited power because they're cut from the source (Illuvatar aka God)

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >get cut off from daddy's money
      >invest everything you have into nfts

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For being such a powerful artifact it really didn't do much. Even at his full power he got his ass kicked like a little b***h and everyone else that used it gained minor abilities.

    Sauron is the weakest villian ever written. He does nothing but lose and makes mistakes. Everyone acts like he's some big badass but he's done nothing to earn that reputation.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bit like Voldemort. Dude lost to a fricking baby.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >He does nothing but lose and makes mistakes. Everyone acts like he's some big badass but he's done nothing to earn that reputation.
      Everyone knows someone like this

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He was responsible for the destruction of Numenor and the extinction of 6'5'' tall ubermenschen with 300 year lifespans

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fake news

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He's essentially the same as wormtongue. He used to be the big bads underling who swooped in and claimed his power after the main villain was defeated. Then he fumbled it for a few thousand years and got nowhere and then he died, and then another few thousand years later still he hasn't done anything then his ring gets melted and he just fricking gives up.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He was planning to cut some trees

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      taking over the entire world is actually pretty fricking hard, okay? he did alright

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        which he lost immediately to a mere mortal and did nothing for a thousand years. And when he comes back he loses like every battle despite having the advantage every time.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Everybody has an off-day.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's because good people did stuff to stop him. It's like a story or plot or something idk I'm not a writer.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            and all these people did so with ease and poor Sauron just happened to frick everything up every single time.

            Imagine being Saruman. Thinking about joining the guy that fricks up all the time only to be as massive of a frick up as his master.

            Sauron, king of frick ups.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >ease
              kek none of that shit looked easy to me.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >giant green blob spooks an army to death
                >trees easily knock over a damn
                >Sauron gets his finger hacked off like it's nothing
                >Orcs die from a single sword strike despite wearing full plate armor.
                >Army loses because of bright light.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >giant green blob spooks an army to death
                Aragorn had to do a bunch of character development to get to that point. It was earned.
                >trees easily knock over a damn
                Ents kick ass, simple as
                >Sauron gets his finger hacked off like it's nothing
                The main takeaway here is that Sauron was defeated, but Isildur gets corrupted. If it was easy, Isildur could've destroyed the ring and avoided all the trouble.
                >Orcs die from a single sword strike despite wearing full plate armor
                This is just common Hollywood bullshit and shouldn't be taken as actual world building. Film makers are often too lazy to properly portray how armor works, or even much about how battles actually work (see archers holding back bowstrings, or armies never using shield walls)
                >Army loses because of bright light
                Yeah, it gave the Rohirrim a 2+ unmodifiable save.
                None of that would've even have been necessary if Sauronman hadn't completely fricked Rohan from the inside, so you can stop these arguments of the bad guys being ineffectual.
                Nothing about Helm's Deep was easy.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >This is just common Hollywood bullshit and shouldn't be taken as actual world building.
                I just read Fellowship and there are several parts where the hobbits casually slice off orc limbs. In Moria pretty much every orc that attacks the group dies in one hit.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          sauron was the biggest jobber in middle earth or w/e no cap

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >when he comes back he loses like every battle
          I think you mentally skipped over the part where he stampeded over everything up until those couple of tide-turning battles. He scoured all the way to the Shire bro.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I understood the ring of power to be something like a monkey paw +9999 luck stat item. Put it on, bam you're in the spirit realm where it draws its power from. Over time your conquests are successful in exchange for turning your soul.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        well thats very wrong and stupid

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the ring is a mind control device
        essentially, it buffs your psi attack vs the wearers of the lesser rings, which de-buff psi defense
        the invisibility is a side effect of pushing the wearer into the unseen (spirit world) where this process occurs

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      JRR Tolkien, despite his genius, was an autistic manbaby and couldn't do critical thinking or heavy themes like evil and sex very well.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        GRRM Black person detected.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >t. Rangs of Powah writer

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >WE NEED MORE wienerS AND PUSSIES AND ASSES IN THIS BOOK RIGHT NOW!
        thats literally what you sound like, dumbass

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        moron.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lorelet moron

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Look man, he took on the entire world and ALMOST won. If not for the gods intervening to push golem into the fire, he would have won. He did a pretty good job all things considered.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >If not for the gods intervening to push golem into the fire,
        There's a very solid theory that frodo cursed gollum using the power of the ring. He tells gollum that the ring will hold him to his promise and that if he breaks his promise he'll fall into fire.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Theory
          You mean the literal text of the book?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Wellll yeah but many people aren't convinced since it's never outright stated that frodo or the ring itself caused gollum to fall.
            It's pretty clear that the curse caused the fall imo.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It's called a geas or command

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It's called a geas or command

              I misremembered the book. The part about the ring holding gollum to his promise and the part about gollum falling into the fire happen some time apart.

              You swore a promise by what you call the Precious. Remember that! It will hold you to it; but it will seek a way to twist it to your own undoing. Already you are being twisted. You revealed yourself to me just now, foolishly. Give it back to Sméagol you said. Do not say that again! Do not let that thought grow in you! You will never get it back. But the desire of it may betray you to a bitter end. You will never get it back. In the last need, Sméagol, I should put on the Precious; and the Precious mastered you long ago. If I, wearing it, were to command you, you would obey, even if it were to leap from a precipice or to cast yourself into the fire. And such would be my command. So have a care, Sméagol!”

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                so the ring basically cast itself in fire... that just makes this even more moronic. imagine forging the one thing that can kill you for good and that thing is so stupid it can command its wearer to jump into the one thing that can destroy it.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Tolkien confirmed in his letters that Eru was satisfied with Frodo who went as far as he could go to destroy the Ring, so he nudged things a bit to make Gollum falls.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            this shit is why I can't take lotr seriously. What stake is there when the heroes have capital G God helping them?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      His boss was literally LOTR Satan.

      Sauron was the equivalent of gandalf before learning a few tricks. Him getting his shit kicked in isn't surprising.

      Morgoth had foot soldiers that would have wiped their asses with maia. Things were simply on another level back then.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Sauron was the equivalent of gandalf before learning a few tricks. Him getting his shit kicked in isn't surprising.
        actually he is mentioned as being the strongest of the non-valar ainur
        so, same class as gandalf, but the strongest in that class.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think Tolkien was too focused on writing about the good guys to remember to make the bad guys actually threatening. We're supposed to believe that the Nazgul are threats but then Aragorn beats up 5 of them by himself. We're supposed to believe the ring is this all corrupting evil but then Faramir isn't even tempted by it. The horrible immortal monster that guards the secret path to Mordor gets defeated by a fat hobbit with a dagger. Sauron gets outwitted by fricking Pippin with the palantir. I understand the poetry of "evil will end up destroying itself" but reading the books it's really hard to believe the situation is really as hopeless as the characters act like it is.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Even at his full power he got his ass kicked like a little b***h and everyone else that used it gained minor abilities.
      >Sauron is the weakest villian ever written. He does nothing but lose and makes mistakes. Everyone acts like he's some big badass but he's done nothing to earn that reputation.

      The LOTR movies do a terrible do a job of presenting how strong old humans and old warriors from the past were. Humans and Elves from earlier Ages were supposed to be legendary powerful. They walked with the gods themselves and spoke to them directly. Current day humans are a bad joke in comparison.

      Sauron wasn't fighting regular humans. He was supposed to be fighting 8 foot tall Giga Chads that live for hundreds of years, have the blessings of the god himself, and wield magical enhanced weapons thar were beyond current humans ability to create.

      Sauron is a corrupted minor Angel with a ring that boosts his power and persuasion. But even he can't fight tens of thousands of 8 foot tall Giga Chad god blessee warriors that wield weapons that could shatter mountains. Eventually Sauron would fall.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you're partly right about the elves, but mostly wrong about the humans

        the noldor of the first age were indeed pretty fricking formidable, basically a big group of galadriels and glorfindels, with some being even more powerful than those 2.
        glorfindel took down a balrog, dying in the process, just like gandalf did, so that gives us an approximate power level comparison

        first age humans were just regular humans tho.
        second age numenoreans were very much enhanced as a reward for fighting against morgoth in the first age, but still nothing close to first age elves. iirc the books mention elendil being 2.5 meters tall(like 8 feet or something?), assuming a proportional human build to match that would be at least 150kg (>300lbs)

        elendils sword, narsil (later anduril) was a first age weapon, albeit one made by dwarves (Telchar iirc). good sword, not magic tho. the gondolinian swords/daggers from the troll horde were higher level gear for sure.

        and as for sauron, he was slain by gil-galad and elendil, tho both died in the fight.
        gil-galad was the high king of the elves at the time. a noldor, albeit one born in middle earth who hadn't seen the trees first hand. glorfindel should have been more powerful.
        and elendil was the aforementioned 8foot tall 300lb ultramegagigachad, but not magical in any way.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          When Sauron tried to declare himself Ultimate King, Numenor invaded middle Earth with their massive Uber Chad army. Sauron's armies of orcs and goblins literally just ran away because they were so scared of the army. Sauron himself surrendered without a fight when he saw Numenor's army.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yup.
            so imagine how much worse it would have been if sauron was facing first age calaquendi instead, lol.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >and into this Ring he poured his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life.

    Basically the ring is Sauron the deceiver´s essence/ spirit/ soul. Maia are all spiritual beings. Gandalf, the Balrog, the eagles and Sauron are all, technically, the same species/ type of being.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    who says he didn't? Remember he made more than one ring and even that one elven b***h had one. They are probably corrupted by now. Don't listen to book gays they don't know what they are talking about.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    even if he could it is doubtful that the leaders of men and elves would accept more gifts from him.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why not? the one thing we learn from LotR is that everyone is moronic and no one learns from their mistakes.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If i cut your hand off you could reattach it, theoretically. If i destroy your hand you can't grow a new one

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >can’t regenerate his hands
      ngmi

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The ring is forged from crushed Eagles
    That's the real reason the Eagles avoided him until the last minute

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the movies don't explain this but making the One Ring was really hard

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He couldn't be bothered

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder: Alfrid Lickspittle won

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      he was catapulted right into an ogre's mouth whilst dressed as a woman

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He did it to save Gandalf, and didn't get eaten. The women's clothing was camouflage. He did everything perfectly and according to plan.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What sex was the ogre?

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Its sort of like the technology for the moon landing -- nobody can do it any more. Too much diversity and coddling of inferior cultures not focused on hard work

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think the lack of moon landings has more to do with the fact that theres frick all there, it cost billions of dollars for each trip, and its dangerous as all frick rather than your poltard delusions

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        shut up seething pajeet

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        NASA has become a joke and bringing up your pol boogeyman in seethe out of nowhere on other boards will do nothing to make them not be correct of the topic. Don't need to be muh poltard to agree that their diversity has been a rot that has eaten away at their institution from within, but you stay in your smooth brain denial okay?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's a jumping-off point to Mars and the asteroid belt. Asteroid mining will the most profitable endeavor in human history.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There are gold mines sitting around not operating now because of operating costs, it'll be a long time before asteroid mining is worth the massive investment.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      lunar landing isn't a lost technology, its just a pointless prestige project. If there were worthwhile exploitable resources on the moon, or a continuing need to show up the Communist nations we'd have set up a lunar village. It was just the modern equivalent of the Giza pyramids, or the Ming Dynasty naval expeditions.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        NASA has flat out admitted in official statements that they've lost the technology that made it happen, you ignorant blowhard. Stop having opinions on the subject.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    1 ring means the ring is worth one ring
    2 rings means each ring is worth half of one ring

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just scoop it back from the volcano.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The One Ring is the OG horcrux - Sauron literally imbues it with his soul/essence so that even in defeat, he can never be truly be undone unless the ring, too, is undone, and since no one (apart from that jolly homosexual Tom Bombadil) is completely immune to the temptation of The Ring, it virtually guarantees Sauron's survival.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why didn't frodo hide the ring in tom bombadil's bedroom and go home ?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because that wouldn't have solved the problem.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          pffttt out of sight out of mind baby

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sauron was winning the war without the ring. If Frodo does what you're saying... Sauron slowly conquers everything up until Tom Bombadil's house. Then he walks up to Tom and takes his ring back

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Tom Bombadil would touch his nose and Sauron would disappear entirely, you know nothing!

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          one does not simply walk up to Tom Bombadil and live to tell the tale

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The ring is Sauron's eyes and ears. You think Sauron wants to see and hear fat Tom Bombadil poorly frick his wife every night.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >wife
          ya sure about that buddy

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Goldberry is a character from the works of the author J. R. R. Tolkien. She first appeared in print in a 1934 poem, The Adventures of Tom Bombadil, where she appears as the wife of Tom Bombadil. Also known as the "River-woman's daughter", she is described as a beautiful, youthful woman with golden hair.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              He explicitly states that she's his daughter in the poem.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And? They can still frick

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >the Ring spying on Tom
          >plop-a-doll merry doll, plap-a-doll my-dingo
          >plapplapplapplap

      • 4 weeks ago
        L'Jarius Sneed

        *butthole

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because tom would just misplace it. he truly gave no fricks. Also, they're only chance of winning the war was the rings destruction. Sauron was gonna win even without it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >he can never be truly be undone unless the ring, too, is undone
      Is that the whole purpose behind imbuing his soul into the thing? Because it has always confused me why he'd even do that.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No. The point of the Ring was to control the elf-lords whom Sauron had tricked into making their own great rings. The One Ring could basically let Sauron "hack" into their minds and govern their thoughts, and by governing them also bring the elves under his heel.

        All of the rings were actually aimed at the elves, but the elves found out about his treachery and successfully hid three of them. The others Sauron recovered, and gave to dwarves and men (these would eventually become the Nazgul).

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Evil can't create or destroy
    >Sauron created the One Ring, even helped create the other 19

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Sauron created the One Ring, even helped create the other 19
      the rings are really small thoughbeit

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Um, ring craft is a metaphor for sodomy. The rings were just visual illusions manifesting a genealogy of sodomite pairings that themselves were in fact much more profound metaphysical pairings in the spirit realm.
    Basically, Sauron taught the elves a form of metaphysical incest and soul-melding that was highly offensive to Iluvatar's design but elves were in their grungy teenage phase and messed around with it.

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's to stop Voldemort from creating another horcrux?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He did, accidently. That's what Harry Potter was.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        wrong that was harry longharry, a humonculous harry spat out

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I'm disintegrating
        >save me, B--Harry

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nothing. As far as he knew he had plenty of soul jars left.

      I imagine rowling would say something gay about there being a cap on how many times you can split your soul but that sounds dumb.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      he only wanted 7 because it's a stronk magic number
      he had the hubris to think no one would find them all
      and he cant make more coz he is superdead after all of them were destroyed

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how did sauron literally just return as a gigantic tower eye? don't gondorans have like spies or something?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It is a metaphor for his anus, hence the whole ring rimming plot line

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the various kingdoms of man that watched over the area pretty much went into a state of decline, the gondor you see when the story takes place is a mere shadow of what it once was

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gondorians kept a watch over Mordor for centuries but eventually some of them decided not to honour a promise their great great great great grandfathers made and go live by the river which was nicer

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    His power was destroyed when the ring was destroyed. He put most of his essence into the ring.

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    a frick huge portion of Saurons power was in that ring, with its destruction he became powerless to the point he couldn't even take a physical shape and is nothing more than a spirit that is at worst an annoyance, even if he magically got a new body and was able to make another ring he would never be a real threat since he would still be far less powerful

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >is nothing more than a spirit that is at worst an annoyance,
      if this is the case why did the orcs and the evil gondalf sided with him? why risk it all for an annoying ghoul?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        he became said spirit AFTER the ring was destroyed, before he was he was still powerful even with it out of his hand thus able to manipulate the orks and Saurumon into doing his bidding

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So wait, he’s still around after they destroy the ring?
      t. doesn’t know anything about lotr except from pop culture references.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He becomes like a spooky spectre too powerless to do anything ever again. The Valar use a strong wind to blow him away as a little extra frick you.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yes, the movie doesn't really touch up on this since as much as bookgays will seethe its not exactly that important, but Sauron and other like him (which includes Gandalf) are pretty much spirits that can take a physical form (to put it in very simplistic terms think of them like angles) so when most of his power got destroyed with the ring, he pretty much lost any ability to truly manifest beyond some vengeful whispers but is still immortal so he still there and will be there for when the final battle happens, the few pages we have of Tolkiens scrapped sequel even allude to this

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A lack of hands.

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sauron poured a huge part of his being into the ring. To the point that he couldnt make another one or even keep living without it.

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Peak fiction.

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing. And that is exactly what he will do.

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    At the time, the magical technology to have more than one phylactery didn't exist.

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why didn't the Fellowship simply fly over the Misty mountains with the help of eagles?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Eagles couldn't invade Mordor without an official declaration of war from the Eagle congress and they didn't finish deliberating until halfway into the war when some orcs bombed their egg nests.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that's bad ass

        >giant green blob spooks an army to death
        >trees easily knock over a damn
        >Sauron gets his finger hacked off like it's nothing
        >Orcs die from a single sword strike despite wearing full plate armor.
        >Army loses because of bright light.

        none of that was easy

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          literally all of it was easy. I think you might be having a hard time reading.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            it seems easy because you're skipping over all the hard parts. It's like saying that building a house is easy because all you need to do is buy some furniture on Amazon.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Great Shelf bombing was an inside job. Gwaihir is just a warmonger

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You think eagle management is going to approve that much overtime?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Morder got a ton of air defense from the EU

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He was hoping to kill off the chimps in the rings of power, as it would seem that no chimp characters existed in LOTR movie timeline. WAT.

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >makes a ring that will kill him if it gets destroyed
    >didn't even need the ring or nazgul to win the war
    sauron wasn't very bright

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      well that and he could have corrupted the nazgul in about 20 different ways already
      and the 7 rings didn't end up doing shit either
      and the 3 were actively harmful to his longterm goals

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't forget
      >was there at the beginning, knows Eru has/is/will btfo Melkor forever
      >still defects
      >sees Melkor/Morgoth get btfo by Manwe as predicted
      >still thinks he can carry on the torch
      >surprised when he gets btfo

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >didn't even need the ring
      he died, the only reason he was able to return was because of the ring

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >makes a ring that will kill him if it gets destroyed
      he made the ring for a good purpose. well, you know, not good, but not a moronic one.
      see

      the ring is a mind control device
      essentially, it buffs your psi attack vs the wearers of the lesser rings, which de-buff psi defense
      the invisibility is a side effect of pushing the wearer into the unseen (spirit world) where this process occurs

      , the ring was intended to facilitate his control of the elves (who made the lesser rings with his help, and were their intended wearers). also note that at the time, early second age, the elves were the dominant civilization in middle earth.

      >Sauron gets his finger hacked off like it's nothing
      that's just movie nonsense
      in the books, gil-galad (the high king of the elves) and elendil (a 2.5m tall, 300lb numenorean king) manage to kill him(well, his body, not *him*, he can't die like that), themselves dying in the process. its fairly balanced.
      isildur then proceeds to claim the ring from his dead body (finger hacking possibly involved) as loot.

      >Orcs die from a single sword strike despite wearing full plate armor
      again movie nonsense. in the books, nobody is wearing plate armor. if any proper armor was there at all, which for orcs generally wasn't the case, it was chainmail

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      enhance

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        thanks for sharing anon, zooming in has given me the willies.

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    cuz he dead, moron

  35. 4 weeks ago
    whore crutch

    he got anudda soul to put in the ring smart guy?
    He gonna forge it with his ghost arms?

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So something I never really understood about the ring's powers

    What exactly does the ring do in the hands of sauron that makes him so much more powerful than without it? If its main purpose is to control all the other rings, and he already controls the nazgul while the dwarven rings and the elven rings were either lost in time or thrown away, then what use it after the nazgul are already under his control and he can't influence the others through their rings?

    Also does the invisibility thing work on anybody that uses the ring or is it just hobbits because of their weird nature and that sauron never really considered them as a threat? Is it just some weird quirk or does the invisibility act solely as a way for sauron to track you when you use it (since it brought frodo face to face with the eye)

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      When a spirit creates in the world of LotR, they must invest part of their spirit into the creation. Sauron found a loophole wherein he created a power bank in the form of a ring that could control those other rings. So as long as he was in possession of the ring, the act of creation technically cost him nothing. Without the ring though, he was without that invested power.
      >Also does the invisibility thing work on anybody that uses the ring or is it just hobbits because of their weird nature and that sauron never really considered them as a threat?
      The invisibility is actually the ring pulling the wearer into the unseen realm. Some creatures like elves exist halfway in the unseen realm naturally, and then spirits like Tom Bombadil inhabit both worlds at once. So when Tom puts on the ring he doesn't turn invisible because he's already 100% in both worlds.

  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's an adult now with a wife and kids. Fantasy stuff is for preteens.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      not everyone is popular and good looking

  38. 4 weeks ago
    L'Jarius Sneed

    Nothing. It's a huge plot hole, similar to how they could've just rode the eagles into mordor.

  39. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The one-of-one (1/1) One Ring was already owned by Mr. The Post Malone, so Sauron couldn’t do another.

  40. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dunno. Never watched. Ugly moron disgusting hobbies being the main heroes totally keeps me away from LotR

  41. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >land of mordor where shadows lie
    which lie they are talking about ? a lieing as in saying lier or laying ,you know to lie in bed ?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's chilling over there

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They lied about Sauron getting 80gajillion votes during the election

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        She shouldn't have relied on the eagles to deliver all the mail-in voting. Those feathered cretins can't be trusted.

  42. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine you're you and you're exceptionally strong. You can lift 1000 pounds. You're a minor superhero.
    Not good enough. So you magically take your physical might and you transmute it into your belt of strength. The belt is magic and with the belt on your strength is multiplied, you can now lift 10,000 pounds! But if you ever take the belt off you can only lift 20 pounds. Why? Because the more of your strength you put into the belt the bigger the base power being multiplied was. So you greedily put almost everything you could into the belt. But who cares, you're never going to take it off anyway right?

    That's what Sauron did with the Ring. With the Ring destroyed there isn't enough of Sauron left to put into another Ring. He gambled and he lost.

  43. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sauron was a Lich, the ring was his Phylactery.

  44. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can't imagine how embarrassing it must have been when Sauron got his finger cut off.
    I totally get it, he wanted to do the cool villain choke out thing in front of the enemy army to demoralize them. I'd probably do the same thing in his position.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine if he had just worn the ring on his wiener.

  45. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why was gandalf surprised to hear his name. Didn't he just meet Mary and Pippin?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why is Gandalf surprised at anything at all.

      Gandalf, along with Saruman, Sauron, Morgoth and literally all the top elves used to live together in Valinor back in the day. They all fricking knew each other and where hanging out and leaning stuff together.

      When Gandalf is talking about Sauron he's talking about his roomie from back in Valinor dorm days, not some unknown villain that is totally a shrewd mystery.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        actually im pretty sure that's wrong
        gandalf and saruman should indeed have been in valinor together
        but morgoth only went there when he was imprisoned after the first war (shortly before the time elves first appears), and soon after his release, he did the whole tree thing with the spider and left. he was brought back after the war at the end of the first age and thrown to the void.
        iirc, sauron stayed in middle earth during all that shit.

  46. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    he's concerned about CO2 emissions

  47. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Sacrifice most of your soul to control three elves through their rings
    >They take their rings off

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >give nine rings to kings of men
      >they becoming annoying ghosts that wont stop screetching all the time
      sauron just cant catch a break man

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it was genius
      the 3 most powerful of his opponents had to give up most of their power just to avoid getting fricked over by him
      also Sauron was playing the long game, he's a master at temptation, sure they took off their rings "now" but what happens after hundreds of years of war, what happens if he despoils the lands they cherish, kills more and more of their people, forces them to stand by helplessly making heartwrenching choices again and again and again

      How long before eventually one of them cannot take the suffering anymore, can no longer ignore the cries of their people and puts their ring back on thinking that whatever evils Sauron may attempt to inflict on them, the immediate greater good of using their ring counteracts it

      And they would see success at first, drive back Sauron's legions for a while, see their lands flourish again
      Only for the One Ring to twist their actions against them, and slowly but sure they too would fall

  48. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Weet ik

  49. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So was Glorfindel just chilling in Rivendell during the entire war? Even if they didn't want him in the fellowship surely he could have done something.

  50. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    sauron is just a metaphor for the power struggles between countries on earth. the conflict wss resolved by the kingdoms coming together, the ring is irrelevant

  51. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    copyright

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