What's up with hacks like nolan and villeneuve abusing this "minimalist"/geometrical empty spaces "aesthetics"?

What's up with hacks like nolan and villeneuve abusing this "minimalist"/geometrical empty spaces "aesthetics"?
Is it to save on production or to give plebs an easy way to differentiate between "normal" movies and "high-brow kino" or what?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >My mother still cries over the lost baby pictures

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Still can't believe he got away with recycling this character

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      milky

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you must have been adorable

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      "if you beliiiiiiieeeeevvee they put a man on the moooooooooon"

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      COOMER

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      NoHo Hank is kino.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    set design is hard
    it's easier to create Duncrunner than it is to create Alien

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      alien is realistic looking so its not that hard. 2001 acts the same way. you take existing designs and concepts of the future by actual engineers and architechts and fit it to your world/story.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >chuds still filtered by brutalismkino
    moronic chuds on here:
    >brutalism le........ shite that's communism!
    >gaudy 80s trasjh................................................le KINO

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >brutalismkino
      N

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >gaudy 80s trasjh................................................le KINO
      dune's set design is minimalist 2010s trash though. it looks out of date. the wave right now is stuff like solarpunk and y2k revivalism, none of which are particularly minimalist

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        He's trashing the original Bladerunner as well... which practically set the bar for everything cyberpunk. Frick this little Black person.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wtf is solarpunk

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >solarpunk and y2k revivalism
        Stop pulling shit out of your ass that you want to be a thing

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I hate solarpunk.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Only good solarpunk media I can think of are Planetes and Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou and the former has people riding sitting in tin cans.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >chuds
      Leave israelites out of it

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Little chuddie is mad again.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I am not israeli

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >he had to crawl out of a sewer just to get service to post this
          Haha

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Chud or Chude (Old East Slavic: чyдь, Finnish: tšuudi, Northern Sami: čuhti) is a term historically applied in the early East Slavic annals to several Baltic Finnic peoples in the area of what is now Estonia, Karelia[1] and Northwestern Russia.[2] It has also been used to refer to other Finno-Ugric peoples.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What was he doing down there?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's an underground-Jew, he lives there.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >C.H.U.D.
        >Chabad Hasidic Underground Dweller

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't brutalism canonically designed to demoralize a population?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What. Its just cheap and easy

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's the only thing the Soviet and Chinese architects could create without drawing the attention of revolutionary guard for being some sort of reactionary or monarchist. If the old regime liked it you were part of that old regime. So in a sense it is the result of planned demoralization or perhaps a feedback loop of demoralization that originated in terror and genocide.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Sisters_(Moscow)
          Yeah and you had to cry at Stalin's funeral otherwise they'd shoot you.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Except it didn't just manifest in the Soviet Union and was a thing in German schools first.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >brutalism
      >kino
      Ah yes, brutalism, the height of pleasing aesthetic, how kino indeed

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I guess shit like this is more your speed zoomzoom

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Villeneuve can't into Britalism.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think it's done for cost reasons while pretending that there's some deep aesthetics. Any episode of tales from the crypt has more creative expression and thought put in it than all movies from the past five years combined

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      it also reduces the number of decisions Denis has to make and the amount of things that can go wrong, the potential for continuity errors etc. he can hide behind an "aesthetic" while making his job easier so he does.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >amount of things that can go wrong
        oh no - imagine you'd have to get _creative_ while doing a movie instead of doing some boring by-the-numbers-slop

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Art imitates life, always has been the case

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Shit too. Give me a Raptor any day.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      modern architecture is depressing really, everything is just sterile and gray/beige

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Pic completely unrelated I assume?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >anons defending this architecture
        Big. Empty. And reliant on the exterior being both not a rundown city and a well kept open GREEN space with minimal heat-stopped tree cover.
        Glass walls to rooms and thin glass bannisters promote anxiety.
        Lack of signage implies lack of trust for non-managerial workers; a hostile environment for non-HR.

        As we're evidently extortionately rich, given that this isn't a space-efficient office complex, it would be preferable to have plants running across the walls, even if they're small square hedgerows, to excuse the complete lack of color, warmth and humanity.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Apple Park is a pretty good example of modernism because they didn't cheap out on details or materials. It's stark but it's not soulless.
        The vast majority of modernism is garbage, and just an excuse for developers to pay less for buildings.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Looks like my school library

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      except this was the other way around?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        many such cases, anon. They've had stripped-of-any-soul minimalist architecture and product design since the late 2000s, Apple Park opened in 2017 and it looks like this

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    When did Nolan do this?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        that was deliberate homage to the monolith from 2001

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        For interstellar propose spacecraft innovative, design would what you propulsion system, and from methods used for space exploration current how differ?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        So an underground bomb storage and a homage to Kubrick are your examples of Nolan's minimalism?

        Wayne Manor from TDKR.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What?! Who expected an uninhabited alien ocean planet to be minimalist? Nolan's a heckin minimalist!!!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        When did Nolan do this?

        Which part of this screams minimalist?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Le heckin minimalism.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Mid flick

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Off-Topic but damn the production design in The Prestige was amazing. Still the best Nolan flick.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah that just looks ugly

            [...]
            So an underground bomb storage and a homage to Kubrick are your examples of Nolan's minimalism?

            Wayne Manor from TDKR.

            >single car on an empty road across an empty field
            Wow I stand corrected

            >examples of Nolan's minimalism
            Learn to read. Minimalism is not the only thing OP complained about. Picrel is a sample of nolanslop. Or that scene with cops charing at criminals. Or dunkirk, or oppenheimer. It's all completely devoid of life.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Yeah that just looks ugly
              Nobody asked about your dogshit taste, moron. It's not minimalism which was your claim.
              >Wow I stand corrected
              How moronic are you? I'm talking about the Wayne Manor in the background. The architecture is not minimalist.

              Neither is the infinite library that you posted. You're too low iq and too illiterate to even understand what minimalism entails. It's bizarre that you're posting with such confidence while being completely wrong.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Did you miss the giant mansion in the middle of the photo?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I didn't miss it. It's just so bland it might as well not be there. It's just some shitty manor with a shitty car. There's nothing "batman" about it. There's nothing "gotham" about it. It might as well be a still from Bond, a car commercial, or romcom about rich people.

                A literal cardboard box has more cinematic value than that still.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >The solution to life, the universe, and everything...
              >Is Bismuth.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >pretentious set design wanker gets angry online

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Are you really going to pretend Nolan isn't a fan of brutalism and modern architecture?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, because you're an idiot who is confusing naturalism for minimalism. That's a fortress, that's how they look now and how they've looked for a long time. A typical American farmhouse would look like typical American farmhouse, Paris would look like Paris, tallinn would look like tallinn.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Nolan can shoot wherever he wants or have the art department knock up anything. He still chooses modern architecture a lot of the time.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Nolan can shoot wherever he wants or have the art department knock up anything.
                By that measure Malick, Lynch, Mann, Altman, etc...all have a Brutalist/minimalist aesthetic because most of their flicks take place in the real world and real world has the occaisonal brutalist/minimalist buildings.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not going to say it's one of his defining traits to the extent that it is for Villeneuve of late, but it's very obvious Nolan has a thing for the modern and frequently employs minimalist sensibilities to his imagery.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's an underground bunker.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Here's a very DUNC looking ship of his

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Most western Skyscrapers are not minimalist. They're modernist.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's what I said there, they can get minimaler in that film though.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >That's a fortress
              It's actually supposed to be a hospital.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's a fortress that has a hospital within a vault. It's a dream location anon. It's a homage to Bond flicks where villains(often russians) would have fortresses like that

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It is a hospital in the story and the script. Again, Nolan can write anything into these stories, scout any location to film in, and have the production designers build anything he can't do for real. He frequently favors modernism and clearly has a taste for the minimal, especially in things like props.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It is a hospital in the story and the script
                No it's a fortress hospital. moron.
                > Again, Nolan can write anything into these stories, scout any location to film in, and have the production designers build anything he can't do for real.
                And you continue to ignore every other example that proves you otherwise. You also keep confusing modernism for minimalism.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The two closest examples he gave of Nolan being brutalist/minimalist in terms of architecture are both.....surprise, surprise underground shelters. Lmao.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >No it's a fortress hospital.
                Actually it's a Hospital Fortress. moron.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >No it's a fortress hospital
                As I said, it's a hospital. Good of you to concur.
                >You also keep confusing modernism for minimalism
                Why would I keep distinguishing between the two then?
                >underground shelters
                The Interstellar example is actually a space station.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >As I said, it's a hospital. Good of you to concur.
                Good of you to agree that it's a fortress as well.
                >Why would I keep distinguishing between the two then?
                You're not really. You started using the word because I pointed out the difference to you. In the OP you b***hed about minimalism and empty geometric spaces.
                >The Interstellar example is actually a space station
                This pic

                I'm not going to say it's one of his defining traits to the extent that it is for Villeneuve of late, but it's very obvious Nolan has a thing for the modern and frequently employs minimalist sensibilities to his imagery.

                is from the underground facility that houses NASA labs, housing and other crucial stuff in order to protect them from the dust storms and heat above.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Indie dp here, unless you're building that shit yourself it actually costs a lot in terms of labor and materials.

    Then again you can use the vfx stage like in Mando and be called a gay as well.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      this thread about whether they should have had sets its about whether the design choices were good.
      are you saying big flat brualism is more expensive than traditional set design?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You can layer and paint foam blocks to look like concrete a lot easier than making foam to look like trees. Ask the Chineses.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Your daily reminder that literally every set in Lynch’s Dune was made out of wood.
          DLS set up in Mexico and said ‘what’s cheap to make sets out of?’ and the local rep basically said “wood, and we have a shitload of carpenters who work for like US$2 a day”.
          It’s why Dune 84’s sets were warm and felt lived in, not the sterile raw concrete and soulless CGI of Vile Noob’s set ‘design’.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Moaning about brutalist/minimalist set design is the most current-era movie complaint I see on Cinemaphile. It’s not some conspiracy, it’s just a visual design style that’s become popular recently, embrace it while you can. It looks great, sleek, clean.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      have a nice day

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It starts with shitty lazy "concept artists," the ones who are seething about AI non-stop. They will be dead soon. Villenuevites just regurgitate their slop

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Disingenuous thread, the street sets and K's apartment building are both crowded and dirty. The clean minimalism is to contrast this in the corporate settings. It's extremely obvious and you still missed the point

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      So was nobody there to pump the brakes on Dennis in Dunc?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        this unironically looks like some unreal engine demo. I get that they wanted to contrast the byzantine corpo-designs of the first movie and have the sleek corpo vs derelict urban setting but this is just lazy trash

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Where does it end?

        A day at the beach

        A bustling palace corridor

        At least post actual set photos instead of marketing/pre vis concept art.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Corporate setting

        A day at the beach

        Infrastructure, this is just setting

        A bustling palace corridor

        Where does it end?

        I was only talking about bladerunner, not a dune bookgay so can't speak to that choice

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Where does it end?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      A day at the beach

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      A bustling palace corridor

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      A strange alien spaceship

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Tfw abbot is death process 🙁

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He understood the journey and accepted it fully.
          o7

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Oh frick off Ingmar Bergman

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'll take the compliment

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    He is perfect for our current souless times.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Soul DUNE

      Soulless Dunc

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        DUDE LE SOVL xDDD

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >abstract design
          >video game design

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I always liked the Jawas in Star Wars

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Villeneuve just loves that PS1 low poly aesthetic, I guess.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      mother of SOVL

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      why is the ship all rusted up?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because Dune is one of early pioneers of used future. Futuristic setting with ageing or visibly used technology

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >"minimalist"/geometrical empty spaces "aesthetics"?
    Nolan is minimalist? Do you even know what you're talking about?

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    That bald guy should have been in Dune

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Is it to save on production or to give plebs an easy way to differentiate between "normal" movies and "high-brow kino" or what?
    Both.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Villeneuve absolutely did not "save on production" especially in BR2049, even the "minimalist" sets were very expensive especially with Deakins lighting

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Whoa so CGI and piss filters really break the bank, huh?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Are you blind? There is no CGI or filters of any kind in that picture, it's an actual set.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You posted a photo of a different set to prove your point though

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous
        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          That shot has no filter afaik.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Educate yoursalf on Deakins, pleblord

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        this must have taken like 30 minutes in blender. baste benis billeneuf.

        Modern le-high-aesthetic flicks all look like those soulless corporate memphis cliparts

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >this must have taken like 30 minutes in blender
          Again, are you blind? That's an actual set

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            that doesn't make it look any less shitty and uninspired. What's your point?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >it was made in blender
              >no it wasn't
              >uhhhh what's your point?
              What a dumb moron you are.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                so by your logic, any movie that's shot in real sets and pretends to have some style is automatically good?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Where you getting that "logic", in your own head?

                That moron said it was made in blender, I showed that it was an actual set instead.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It's actually amazing how indignant these homosexuals get while spewing absolute bullshit. This fricking tard can't tell what is minimalism and what isn't, what's an empty geometric space and what isn't, what is CGI and what isn't but he is absolutely sure of their inferiority and the sophistication of his taste.

                But sometimes it's nice to be reminded that most of dumbfricks here who hate on popular filmmakers like Nolan and Villeneuve do so because they vastly overrate their own intellect and watch their films just to nitpick

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >What's your point?
              yeah - what's the point of building huge sets that look exactly like muh vidya? You're a moron

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A bustling palace corridor

        A day at the beach

        This shit is just easier to make on a computer

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        why are you complaining about the giant naked women in BR2049? you get giant naked women statues and giant naked women holograms, what more do you want?
        >uhhhh it's weird looking!

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He said nothing about the giant naked women. Take your pills.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            no

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    its a likely vision - future corporate architecture will be even more minimalist than it is now
    in the last century they thought it would be maximalist, doesnt seem like it now - maximalist would look like a clown fair to most people now

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    denis talks about storyboarding everything himself after the first draft of a script. I suspect a lot of the sets are taken quite literally from those storyboards hence the blocky, minimalist style of them. I think Blade Runner suffered for it but it works for Dune, but both have the effect of the flying overview shots of the cityscape look weird because of it.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This is brutalism. What you're seeing in BR2049 is futuristic brutalism? I don't know, it needs a separate name, though.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Not that different from BR2049 buildings. Obviously the Wallace HQ looks different though

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        glasses is a cutie

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >minimalism wont be the dominant future architecture style
    then what will be anon? admit it, the future will be extreme minimalism if things continue on this trajectory

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      forgot to add - look at the smartphone, look at new tech, it all already looks extreme minimalist, you think it will change

      that doesn't make it look any less shitty and uninspired. What's your point?

      you are an idiot

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        In the 80s they thought the future would look like the 80s
        In the 60s they thought the future would look like the 60s
        It absolutely will change.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That said, I kind of understand the choice of brutalist and minimalist design for movies set in the future. There's a certain timelessness about them. Not that those things would be in vogue all the time forever, but it's easy to imagine something similar coming back to fashion at some point in future.
          Whereas we might never see a return of baroque or 70s disco aesthetic.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Thats called a trend. Trends change. Aesthetic tastes change.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        smartphones arent minimalist, they have a fricking screen filled with ADHD content and loads of UI design

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Dune takes place like 30,000 years in the future. It would be pretty stupid to think of the architecture then as being a logical and linear progression from what it looks like now. Look at Greek and Roman architecture and then consider what Baroque architecture and interiors looked like just a relatively short time later.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Minimalism is a result of cheap material expensive labor - just dump a shitton of material with minimal labor. Baroque is a result of expensive material cheap labor - take a bit of material and labor over it. Future will have more advanced tools that will provide cheap labor and cheap materials. So we'll probably go back to baroque.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Dune takes place like 30,000 years in the future. It would be pretty stupid to think of the architecture then as being a logical and linear progression from what it looks like now. Look at Greek and Roman architecture and then consider what Baroque architecture and interiors looked like just a relatively short time later.

        yes good points
        >go back to baroque
        I would want to see an completely unique style, director coming up with a new style for the film, now wouldnt that be grand

        how about an architecture that continuously changes itself - it changes depending on your mood, or it shifts randomly, via some algorithm, it could morph into a defensive structure in case of an attack, or a grand hall - walls changing color and emitting sounds

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          ofc dune doesnt allow computers, but an evolving architecture could be mechanized

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >how about an architecture that continuously changes itself
          Wow it's almost like you're a moron who spends all his time online in shitty digital facsimiles and has no idea how reality works

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the future will be extreme minimalism
      The future will be mega city 1.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Regardless of whether it actually will or won't be the dominant future architecture, it evokes the feeling of futurism because everything is looking more and more minimalistic/brutalistic since the last decade or two. I thought this was pretty obvious but it's always interesting to see how moronic most of this board is

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    Anonymous

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    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

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      Anonymous

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      Anonymous

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  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You saw shades of minimalist set design in something like Blade Runner (1982) (pic related) but they still filled out the interior with props. These days the rooms are empty and boring. I don't understand the design philosophy behind that.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Pic also related, same room but from a different angle. While there is still that simplistic geometric design (columns, angled buildings outside) you can see shelves with figurines, plant fixtures, busts, that sort of thing, that fill out the room and give it life, give it the impression it is actually lived in. In 2049 and DUNE the rooms are lifeless and empty, for seemingly no reason. They don't feel lived in, they have no life. They are, dare I utter the thought, soulless.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Minority Report is an interesting take on this as well. The world is futuristic and sci-fi like BR and DUNE but it has a modern architectural sensibility. I think the star of Minority Report is the lighting design. But the rooms are still filled out with things humans would actually have and use on a day-to-day basis. It is a modern trend to make everything empty and soulless.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This is just an awesome shot from that movie. Early 2000's sci-fi had so much soul.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >It is a modern trend to make everything empty and soulless.
          What would a "sci-fi apartment" that's inhabited by a hoarder/average zoomer alchie look like?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >gooncave.png

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You forget the part that Wallace is quite literally BLIND in BR2049, it would be even more moronic for him to have various design trinkets and paintings on the wall.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That doesn't really explain all the rest of the rooms being soulless and empty

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well there's also the part where everyone worth anything has moved Off-World since Earth became a dying irradiated dust filled shithole where a single tree is seen as a miracle. Apartment building hallways or Joshi office certainly aren't empty.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Earth became a dying irradiated dust filled shithole where a single tree is seen as a miracle.
              Same thing in Blade Runner (1982) yet there are still shelves, books, bottles, bowls, papers, food, computers, you know, things humans need to live. I think this was just like what

              I think it's done for cost reasons while pretending that there's some deep aesthetics. Any episode of tales from the crypt has more creative expression and thought put in it than all movies from the past five years combined

              and

              it also reduces the number of decisions Denis has to make and the amount of things that can go wrong, the potential for continuity errors etc. he can hide behind an "aesthetic" while making his job easier so he does.

              said, lazy uninspired creative choice, or lack of creativity and inspiration, really. It's brutalist interior design (if there is such a thing).

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Same thing in Blade Runner (1982)
                No it didn't, most people still lived on Earth and it wasn't an irradiated dust filled shithole. Everyone was out in the streets, now nearly no one is. Why are you lying?
                >shelves, books, bottles, bowls, papers, food, computers, you know, things humans need to live
                You can find all of those in any environment where a human resides in. And again, Wallace is a blind transhuman cyborg.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the city was empty and isolated, whereas in the original blade runner it was hussel and bussel.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Almost as if everyone moved Off-World in the meantime and Earth wasn't a dying dust filled irradiated shithole in the first BR huh

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                wait... windows can't curve like that

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it takes two seconds to google "curved glass window" to disprove you, yet you posted this anyway thinking it was some sort of "gotcha"

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They 100% can, they are just expensive to make custom, and even more expensive to replace then they break, so usually people just go with multiple flat panes cut to size.
                You think your car windshield is perfectly flat?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Well there's also the part where everyone worth anything has moved Off-World since Earth became a dying irradiated dust filled shithole where a single tree is seen as a miracle. Apartment building hallways or Joshi office certainly aren't empty.
              Imagine actually believing the propaganda that the characters are sold in Blade Runner. lol You must be a zoomer or worse, foreign. I mean, imagine actually believing there are off-world colonies and "attack ships on fire off the shoulder of orion".

              Ok... Sorry. I'll let you in on a secret: the "offworld colonies" in BR are a lie. Most likely, the elites pressed the panic button after they almost lost their power in a counter-revolution. Now, humanity is being soft-killed preferably, hard-killed if necessary (much in the way we are headed) and the elites are living off-grid somewhere far away from major population.

              You are literally watching small stories about what it means to be human from within the context of a free range extermination camp.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                weird fanfiction, guess your brains clogged from too much baskin roberts huh

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's Baskin-Robbins and no I prefer Coldstone. Is it really that weird a theory? I mean, do you take into account the supposed timeframe and the technology you see on display, especially in BR2049, and accept that these people also have FTL starships and are colonizing other worlds? We see the technology of the elites on display and it's just "nicer" versions of what everyone else has.

                There are no "off-world colonies". More like New Zealand or Argentina after they were forceably depopulated.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                is this how you waste your trust fund? banding together all these foolish words?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not all Americans have trust funds. I know you believe that, but it's a very self-made country.

                anon you don't kill the people in your population who can afford to move.

                >anon you don't kill the people in your population who can afford to move.
                That's not whats being said, ESL. The lower and middle classes of those countries are liquidated to create self-exiled colonies for the elites. The lower and middle classes everywhere else are also exterminated. This is done using lies and mostly soft-kill methods so the elites do not acquire a moral stain

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                anon you don't kill the people in your population who can afford to move.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >schizo theory
                You should read Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep if you haven't already, you'll love it.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That building looks like it's biting it's lip like it saw the fattest of asses in the world.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It worked in BR but it looks so cheap and ugly in Dune.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This I agree with 100%. BR2049 looks great, Dune not so much.

      Deakins is probably one of the main reasons why

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Set Dressers can't dress a computer generated image and Set Builders can't make something that looks like that in real life that looks that convincing.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >can't dress a computer generated image
      The starting point is actual sets.

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nolan is naturalist. Not minimalist.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nolan and Denis don’t have the same style. Nolan isn’t minimalist.

      There was no logic behind clumping Nolan with Villeneuve beyond the fact they're currently both popular and often make sci-fi.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's actually amazing how indignant these homosexuals get while spewing absolute bullshit. This fricking tard can't tell what is minimalism and what isn't, what's an empty geometric space and what isn't, what is CGI and what isn't but he is absolutely sure of their inferiority and the sophistication of his taste.

        But sometimes it's nice to be reminded that most of dumbfricks here who hate on popular filmmakers like Nolan and Villeneuve do so because they vastly overrate their own intellect and watch their films just to nitpick

        These, OP is a fricking moron.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      There was no logic behind clumping Nolan with Villeneuve beyond the fact they're currently both popular and often make sci-fi.

      Nah Nolan gets off on the same zoomer liminal space type aesthetic. He'd use empty rooms and empty fields for movies set in contemporary environment if he could get away with it.

      They both go for same impersonal shots devoid of life.

      >What's up with minimalism in sci-fi?
      Go ahead and come up with a credible aesthetic for the future that you can use in an IP that's not even your own. Go on. Envision the future and make it feel real and then just give it away for some shitty, dumb, sequel about robots fighting robots and then girlbots having an uprising. Go ahead. Do it. I'll wait.

      Or you could just have brutalist, ugly minimalism and call it a day.

      I'd hire Giraud or someone else with actual imagination but I guess that way laundering money through CGI companies wouldn't be possible

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nolan and Denis don’t have the same style. Nolan isn’t minimalist.

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What's up with minimalism in sci-fi?
    Go ahead and come up with a credible aesthetic for the future that you can use in an IP that's not even your own. Go on. Envision the future and make it feel real and then just give it away for some shitty, dumb, sequel about robots fighting robots and then girlbots having an uprising. Go ahead. Do it. I'll wait.

    Or you could just have brutalist, ugly minimalism and call it a day.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >brutalist, ugly minimalism
      a blank canvas cannot be ugly. brutalist buildings serve as a nice starting point to put neon biz signage, plants, trees, climbing vines, water fountain etc. what you see as ugly is only so because they stopped there at bare concrete.

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Brutalism in 2049 worked for me since that whole movie is pretty much about how featureless and depressing modern life is, which makes K want to grasp at any chance of meaning he can get.

    In Dunc it was fine on the Arrakis base, but it's moronic to have it literally everywhere else too.
    Even the emperor's palace looks like a statue garden in a modern park.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The world didn't feel lived in. Especially the Fremen stuff. They all lived in empty ruins...why? The whole point of the film was that Fremen, contrary to what the Harkonens believed, were thriving beyond all measure. So why did they live in dilapated ruins? Real life socieities that are deeply spiritual and religious tend to produce great art. Look at mosques all across the middle east. They are ornate and colorful and filled with craftmenship and iconography. All the Fremen had were tiny cave rooms with some crude hieroglyphics in them. There weren't even any chairs or beds anywhere. No pottery. The fricking sacred Water of Life was extracted in an Erleynmeyer flask.

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Contrast makes for striking visuals

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I am glad that other people are noticing this crap. I felt like I was the only one.

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It looks aesthetic, the plebs wouldn't understand

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's boring.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's done that way on purpose so that you focus on masterful cinematography and deep plot.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >masterful cinematography
          No it isn't.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Make a better movie then if you don't like it?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Exactly. It merely "looks aesthetic", pretty but empty.

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How does the architecture make you feel?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      minecraft-y

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The sets of the dune mini series are leagues better than the films

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Creative architecture has been missing for awhile. Laziness probably. Seems like the 80s and 90s had weird cool looking stuff like this real house: https://youtu.be/kYnvq0s17lI?si=nQN8_wnx9kRfbk99

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Those curved sides are cancer. Research Xanadu houses. Curves allow for rapid construction and have other benefits but are terrible to live in in practice.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Can't see shit, what's wrong with those houses?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Their only selling point really was that you could rapidly build them with weird and unique designs. They were garbage from a usability standpoint

          >oh no i lost 5 square inches of useful space HOW TERRIBLE

          All that space adds up and essentially for nothing. Nobody wants moronic curvy igloo houses.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >oh no i lost 5 square inches of useful space HOW TERRIBLE

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why did Wallace disappear from the plot?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      leaving room for a sequel, otherwise what else do you do with him? Have a showdown and kill him so essentially the same character can show up in a future story? Luv is his stand-in and she gets taken out.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So the movie doesn't end because they wanted to make a sequel? Hampton "The Hack" Fancher didn't use this excuse when Tyrell died, but then again he didn't actually write that, just adapted it. Now we see his true incompetence when he must cobble together an "original" story.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It definitely would have made for a much longer movie and judging by where it went once K got to Vegas, I think it just wold have been more painful having a showdown with Wallace. The movie literally forgets itself once Harrison Ford shows up. I really like the movie on the whole, for what it is, but it absolutely shits itself to pull off an ending and have a "meaning".

        This homie literally ran through steel reinforced concrete and granite wall. It got dumb.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >ran through steel reinforced concrete and granite wall
          that was pure kino

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >This homie literally ran through steel reinforced concrete and granite wall
          how did he do that

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's exactly what I was thinking. They're replicants, not robots. They have enhanced abilities relative to natural humans but they aren't superheroes. It's like as soon as Harrison Ford showed up the entire thing turned moronic.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >It's like as soon as Harrison Ford showed up the entire thing turned moronic.
              Pretty much, it seems like they spent more time thinking about how cool it would be to have Harrison Ford show up again than they spent on the entire movie after that scene.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It wasn't about him

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All movies are low brow compared to what I can imagine in my mind

    Also the only architecture that is any good is whatever Japan does, or maybe singapore

  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nolan is pure soul.
    wtf are you talking about

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hollywood has fallen.

    They literally don't have the money to do complex scenes anymore, so it's budget sets, and budget cgi, with a small cast of actors, and tinny cast of extras. And they have special case people doing this. Skill has died out, old master to apprentice route was replaced by nepotism and quotas. In the past they had 'low budget' pet projects that looked like this:

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Complex systems won't survive competence crisis.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Set design like this is unobtainium today. It's impossible.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Budget was $2,770,000

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not a static scene. Just retroscope background.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This looks like a big deal because today we would have a hell of time getting that many people in those clothes, but that's just what they wore at the time. They just went to a racetrack and filmed.

      Budget was $2,770,000

      $2.7m was a standard big budget film in those days.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >This looks like a big deal because today we would have a hell of time getting that many people in those clothes

        It's nothing to do with that. Most of them are painted in. It's all about design. Camera work, set design, artistry and colour work. Today they quickly cgi some shit up and point the camera at random, then they throw shit filter over it, because they fricked up colours when they shot it and have consistency problem with the rest of the movie.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Notice frickup in the top left corner. With all the fantastic lenses that they have at disposal today, they made a silly mistake.

          Compare that with atrocious lens quality in this clip. Lens has massive distortions in the corners, yet they managed a continuous shot with action always taking place in the middle to hide that.

  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's a dishonest fraud

  38. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i was thinking the same thing yesterday. like in dune where are all their stuff? i think they are preparing us for "you won't anything and you will love it" unicef illumatinati world h4norder.

  39. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    aphantasia
    non artistic people can't imagine anything visual so when they make a sci-fi movie, it's all flat and lifeless shit because that's what's in their brain

  40. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was kino in BR. More faithful to the book as well, IMO. But I didn't appreciate it in Dune, not what I wanted to see.

  41. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    humiliation ritual

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You jest but that's literally what's going on in western societies dominant media. It's designed to demoralize people.

  42. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's called reddit aesthetic, those Black folk are obsessed with soviet era architecture. both nolan and villnova pander to those tasteless morons

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nolan is obsessed with minimalism or soviet era architecture dimwit. Read the thread before posting. Low iq cretin.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        kek keep coping midwit. Don't care which is which. Yall the same tasteless morons

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A midwit is still better than a cretin. You want to do the whole "old good, new bad" schtick but you're too dumb to say anything beyond that. You can't actually articulate your views so you just hide behind the acclaim of older cinema.

  43. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Normies think colors are not realistic and cheesy

  44. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OP you absolute newbie...movies are about money-laundering. lower cost = higher profit = more money in pocket to spend on pleasure. go outside and learn about how the world works!

  45. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    On a hellish inhospitable desert planet filled with primitives, you expect a city focused primarily on resource extraction to be that nice? And yeah it's probably nice and cheap and easy to build sets with

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Frick I'm moronic I thought that was Dunc, you've proved your point completely.

  46. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nolan doesn't really, but Villeneuve definitely does. BR2049 has somewhat varied environments so you don't really notice it as much but DUNC is full-on brutalist and I don't like it. Lynch's Dune as well as the miniseries are more intricate, more ornamental.
    One would think that humanity in the future would still enjoy traditional architecture and lived-in spaces but clearly not. House Atreides has minimalist interiors but still have brutalist exteriors and ships, there's not enough to set them apart from the Harkonnens' shit on Arrakis.
    It's a shame too because DUNC is absolutely gorgeous at times but I feel like their approach towards architecture is so bland.

  47. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Don't lump Nolan in with that hack

  48. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    its called "kino", look it up

  49. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's called "Brutalism" and it has been the visual language of dystopian futures for, like, ever.

    Frick zoomers.

  50. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's easy.

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