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What's your unpopular Cinemaphile opinion, anon?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mine is: The Dark Knight Returns and Batman Year One are far and away the greatest Batman works in existence.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Holy Terror, Batman!, ASBAR, The Last Crusade, and DK3 are all fantastic Batman books. People who want Batman to be just another gumshoe or an urban legend are moronic.

      only unpopular among chan-trannies

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anon, "Holy Terror, Batman!" is not a real story.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          NTA but Holy Terror was originally meant to be a Batman story:
          >As originally announced the plot revolved around Batman defending Gotham City from an attack by the Islamist terrorist group Al-Qaeda. According to Miller, the comic would have been a "piece of propaganda" in which Batman "kicks Al-Qaeda's ass."[1][2]

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Anon, "Holy Terror, Batman!" is not a real story.

            Someone even did a fan edit re-adding the ears to Batman and catwoman. It’s great.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Perez' Wonder Woman run only had one good arc

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Demonplague?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the credits

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In comics, art is much more important than writing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The writing is great in that comic. OP is just being a dummy.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Prostitute catwoman

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Is that supposed to be bad? The existence of prostitutes?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, but Bruce should have been the one going undercover as a troony prostitute.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The existence of prostitute Catwoman, yes.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I agree, but that was just my "unpopular Cinemaphile opinion".

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is more a problem that some people think art is just pictures and that panelling, plotting, how it flows and is understood is a super important part of the art.

      American comics should have had a natural progression and end to each character's story the way manga usually does. The fact that no one ever dies and nothing ever changes in comics eliminates any tension.

      >American comics should have had a natural progression and end to each character's story the way manga usually does.
      Plenty of manga have "shit the bed" when it came to their story or end.
      >The fact that no one ever dies and nothing ever changes in comics eliminates any tension.
      And in that manga, how much tension is there when you know the goodies will probably win in the end.

      Unpopular opinion: I think the comic ongoing nature isn't the problem, it is the audience who can no longer enjoy arcs but who need to feel like everything is canon or matters. Ongoing soap opera is fine. There is a reason people now are going back to old sitcoms for entertainment rather than slogging through the latest big streaming show. Sometimes single serving entertainment is better than watching GoT and realising it is shit.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Plenty of manga have "shit the bed" when it came to their story or end.
        But literally every comic will become bad eventually. When is the last time we had a decent Spider-Man story set in the 616 universe?

        >And in that manga, how much tension is there when you know the goodies will probably win in the end.
        There are plenty of manga where villains win. Far more than comicbooks.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >When is the last time we had a decent Spider-Man story set in the 616 universe?
          JM dematteis' Lost Hunt story from last year.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Ongoing soap opera is fine.
        Name one example.
        > people now are going back to old sitcoms
        That's a bold claim with no basis, and unless we're talking SP or Simpsons kind of sitcoms, they also eventually ends.
        >the audience who can no longer enjoy arcs
        I'm sure these "arcs" being rehashed ad vitam, dumb and pointless overall or in the long run doesn't affect anything.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is true
      And anyone who disagrees is unironically moronic
      Comics are a visual medium
      Visuals are the most important
      No amount of good writing will make your comic appealing
      >inb4 OPM
      murata and the first season of the anime made it very popular

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It doesn't even need to be great art if it fits the tone and moves the story, One's OPM is better in places than Murata because the crude art ends up lending itself to humor.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        In comics, art is much more important than writing.

        What if I think that both writing and art are important? Watchmen is still the only comic on Cinemaphile that can get a lot of replies in a short amount of time.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >No amount of good writing will make your comic appealing
        Plenty shonen with great art flopped because the writing wasn't there. Plenty book will get picked for their art but will get shelved and never talked about after that. Visual matters to get you noticed, but unless you're backed by a big machine pumping money into your advertizing or you're got an influencer in your pocket, it's not going to endure the test of being picked up and tried. Appealing power =/ staying power.
        >inb4 OPM
        OPM is a terrible example because the animation studio who made it popular, picked it for it's story and concept and still made reference to One's art because it's part of the joke.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do you mean just the pure visuals or the use of the visuals as a story-telling method? If it's the latter, you're right but that's still a kind of "writing", better to say the art is more important than the scripting.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Venom is a better every man then Spider-Man.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    American comics should have had a natural progression and end to each character's story the way manga usually does. The fact that no one ever dies and nothing ever changes in comics eliminates any tension.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My hot take is that it's ok for superhero comics to go on eternally because they don't have end goals. take for your example, the overarching goal is to get Al's body back. At the end of the manga, they do.
      Superhero goals aren't that clear cut. You can't just end all crime. You can explore it in something like Miracleman but superhero comics largely exist as individual adventures that lead to other adventures.
      It's far more egregious to me how many American nn-superhero comics end up abandoned or unfinished, or have no real goal. Because they don't need to adhere to the genre or business conventions of superheroes, yet it feels like the creators often just give up.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Image if Lee and Ditko wrote 200 issues of Spider-Man, and as the series progressed we got to see Peter get older, see allies and enemies die, and the series ended with Peter dying in a blaze of glory or losing his powers and happily retiring from heroics so he can marry MJ.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It wouldn't be the same as the Spider-man I know and enjoyed because I liked later writer and artist's contributions to the character.
          Furthermore a lot of those creators had no real plan to end these characters at all. The point of them was to engage in never ending stories.
          Jerry Siegel thought Superman should never marry Lois because it's ruin the stories. Just because they were the original creators doesn't mean they ever had a plan to actually finish the stories.
          None of Ditko's solo work is ever structured that way, either, despite not working under the auspices of a major publisher or needing to cultivate a character. He chose to make stories as individual adventures with his characters like Mr. A. That's just the format all those old creators worked in.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Spider-Man's story ends when he gets a family. His kid's born, and the story ends. That or he marries whoever the frick.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A good example of what I'd like to see is Sleeper, which is a superhero comic with a satisfying and definitive ending.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        not having a goal is fine but at the same time these stories still try to sell stakes and things changing. Beyond general poor writing, the problem is when they don't let these things keep carrying forward and usually have dumb resets or regressions. Capes should probably be more like JoJo with generations and stuff or they should stop trying to act like things matter

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Capes should probably be more like JoJo with generations and stuff
          This would work for non-big two stuff or new characters within their universe, not so much trying to replace popular characters like Bruce Wayne and Peter Parker.
          The 90's Starman is a good example of a legacy character who's story begins and ends in his solo series.
          >or they should stop trying to act like things matter
          This is kinda silly to say. They're not going to flat out pretend stakes don't matter because of meta reasons. Melodrama works on the idea that the characters don't have meta awareness.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is not a hot take, why do you think the original Ultimate Spider-Man run turned the entire world on its head when it came out, and why The Walking Dead was such a breakout hit

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ultimate Spider-Man is the exact opposite of that. There was no progression at all, especially compared to the stories it was adapting

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lore shows are better then most episodic shows of today.
    SU is still good in its earlier seasons and features some of the best cartoon characters of the past decade.
    Watchmen 2009 is kino
    Zack snyder is overhated
    Suicide squad 2016 was cool including its album
    9 was a good movie

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    James Gunn has made only good movies.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    comic books and manga are not entirely comparable, and the former has more in common with comic strips. That said, if manga starts building up more and more long-running, never-ending franchises like comics, then they'll start moving closer together, but weebs aren't ready when that day truly comes. With some IPs that day is already here.

    Abe Simpson etc etc it will happen to you.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I enjoy modern comic books from Marvel and DC and I buy a lot of them every month. There are many problems within the comic industry and that can't be denied, but I think people here are way too negative.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think modern comics and cartoons are all shit but it has nothing to do with "wokeness" or liberals ruining them.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they're written by liberals however.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have a list
    >All-Star Superman's art is weak and as a result the story suffers
    >Most Batman villains are only good for one or two stories at best, most often debuts/origins
    >Ben Reilly and Kaine are shit character that shouldn't even exist in the first place
    >Hydro-Man should have been more popular/prominent in Spidey books than Sandman
    >Tom King's Mister Miracle was not good
    >Red Cloud is a okay villain idea despite Bendis Superman run being absolute garbage
    >Cindy Moon/Silk is an okay hero idea despite Dan Slott being a lazy fat frick/shitty writer
    >Gwen Stacy is a meme character, and Spider-Gwen is trash
    >Justice League books should feature the entire DC universe heroes cast, not 6 or 7 people. Do what the JLU cartoon did; have a random selection of heroes doing random adventures
    >Tim Drake sucks
    >Reforming villains often sucks
    >Wonder Woman has a good rogues gallery, just underutilized
    >Harley's redemption is fine, but wasn't valid until Humphries's run
    >I like Punchline
    >Iron Man's rogues gallery is terrible
    >Thor is the least interesting character in his material/book

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>Iron Man's rogues gallery is terrible
      Terrible opinion. You should feel ashamed of yourself

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oh I'm sorry I don't care for Unicorn and The Controller...

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine thinking Frank Quitely's art looks weak. Holy shit.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't care for the style, I'm sorry

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        he's ripping off a lot of great artists like Moebius and Ditko. He found his voice with stuff like Pax Americana, New X-Men and Multiversity but I get what people don't like about him.
        He needs Morrison weird to be good

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Ben Reilly and Kaine are shit character that shouldn't even exist in the first place
      Shit taste
      >Hydro-Man should have been more popular/prominent in Spidey books than Sandman
      lol TASgay

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think users who make Twitter threads should be permabanned from all the boards.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love comics but I think manga is going to replace them in 30 years.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is dumb because you don't really know what that entitles, and what you likely mean is something really narrow.
      >Marvel and DC won't exist and manga will be popular still
      Is what I think you're really saying. It's possible, manga will definitely remain well read, and the big two's future as a publisher looks dim. But comics as a whole? Do you really think no one in the western world will produce art and writing linked together?
      Lets put it this way, there's maybe 8 nations that have a relevant film industry, and the money being made below the biggest nations is astronomically different. Yet movies are still made around the world, because people want to make movies even if only a few million, or just thousand people will see them compared to the billions who watch Hollywood movies.
      Plus if anything, manga being popular here means more people in the western world will want to make comics.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm really talking about the big two, they will shut down as publishers and only indy/niche comics will be on shelves. While manga will replace them as the main comic source for entry readers.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Before Watchmen is great save Rorschach and Comedian.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Before Watchmen is great
      Agreed.
      >save Rorschach and Comedian
      Why?
      Rorschach had phenomenal art.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Batman is the best superhero.
    I don't like the massive Batfamily. I'm fine with a few key members (Alfred, Nightwing, Robin, Batgirl, Gordon) but when it gets huge, I don't like it
    Every Batman Arkham game is great
    Batman 2022 is the best movie featuring the character
    Fraction's Hawkeye is terrible
    The Boys show is horrible but the comic is unreadable garbage.
    Frozen 1 and Big Hero 6 are the best films Disney has ever made
    HTTYD trilogy mogs Pixar's entire filmography, which is mostly mediocre or garbage. The Incredibles is total garbage and looks worse than animated movies released before it
    Hawkeye and Daredevil are the only good live action Marvel shows with Moon Knight slipping into okay. Everything else is mediocre or garbage.
    Spiderman 2002>Spiderman 2
    Ed Edd and Eddy is horrible
    Soule's Darth Vader is one of the best comic runs this century
    Prime Family Guy (seasons 2-5) is hysterical

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Fraction's Hawkeye is terrible
      This is objectively correct and it's permanently ruined Clint

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Boco

    Ed Edd n Eddy was shit. Ditto Kids Next Door.
    Sonic should be goofy and self referential.
    Short hair is for men and lesbians.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The whole metal event thing wasn't that bad

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Comics are no where near as woke as people make out. People will b***h about a handful of woke shit and moments for years after and sometimes in disingenous ways. The problem for me is more sheer mediocrity, disconnect between writing and art and bad editorial direction. None of that will be fixed by the people who b***h about the wokeness.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Most people on Cinemaphile hate the comics medium and just have specific nostalgia for comics as a past time they did when they were younger and nothing more. When people b***h about comics being this or that you can ask them to try something different and they will usually say "no" because it has nothing to do with them experiencing the medium.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Donna Troy is better than diana.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Outback X-men is vastly overrated

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Hitman Monaghan

    Spider-Man/ Deadpool ship is stupid.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Button and Doomsday Clock were kino

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Phone posting was the second best thing to happen to Cinemaphile, after hiromoot.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    DC and Marvel should either always have a side universe with a consistent writing team and panned ending that goes for a decade or so, or reboot every 10-15 years from 0 and let new writers do what they want. Following 30-60 years of a character and having to sort through crossovers and one shots and annuals is annoying as someone who is familiar with navigating comics, it's nearly impossible for the normal reader. Ultimate is marvels best idea they've ever had, and DC should copy it.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Comics and cinema in the West are in its last throes and it has nothing to do with ideology or counter-ideology.Their time is up is all.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    its in batman top 10 comicbooks along all star batman by jim lee

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Ultimate Miles run is actually awesome. I love the drama of a superhero who DOESN’T want to be a hero and actively hates the responsibility that comes with it. He quits being Spider-Man for like a year, his dad disowns him after finding out, he gets his own mom killed, Gwen has to b***h slap him and tell him to grow up, watching this lil homie slowly learn to accept his role as Spider-Man over time was great. Once his past got retconned because they brought him to 616 for cheap crossoverslop he got ruined and got aged up and turned into the bussin hip hop man. Nobody even remembers when he was a moody little shit who fricking hated being Spider-Man and it’s a shame. Frick the spider-reddit movie for perpetuating NuMiles to normoids too.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mary Jane is a boring love interest and not really worth it at all.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Authority is overrated as frick

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Crossovers should be extremely limited and not tie-into the main stories of characters.
    X-Men should be in their separate universe from the rest of the Marvel Superheroes.
    Several other Marvel superheroes should be their own continuity / universe.
    Its okay for certain superheroes to never get married or have children in their life.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They should cut down on Batman's action, and go into more mystery driven scenarios. But that's hard to write and most comic writers are lazy.
    Batman shouldn't be resolving most of his stories in a fist fight. This has been getting worse throughout the years.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Joker should be killed off, so we can focus on new villains and create lore around them. Joker being allowed to live creates so many problems in the universe and makes the batman character seem feckless.

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i think the onslaught saga is fun while the age of apocalypse is edgy and boring

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Arkham games (not counting the Suicide Squad game) are the best version of Batman and his universe - somewhat realistic, but not too much, no appearances by Justice League or extended Batfamily, great rogue gallery, the works

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Indie Animation has become the very thing that Cinemaphile hates about Corporate Animation but are still in the denial phase of grief.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gotta appeal to the mainstream to hit it big. Appealing to freaks gets you nowhere.

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The original Ultimate Spider-Man run was only as big as it was because it was baby’s first Spider-Man comic. All of the redesigned and revamped villains were shit and every single story it adapted was worse than the original

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Comic books is an outdated medium that is basically on life support where it serves as a novelty to the autistic homosexuals who are nostalgic for the good old days that have long since passed but due to the sunk cost fallacy cannot and will not see the reality of their situation.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It’s funny how books are still going strong in the modern day especially with ebooks and audiobooks effectively immortalizing them.

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You're the reason why comic book industry is dying. Letting fans run everything has led to them ruining everything. Comic Book Shops, Comic Speculation, Special Event Series, Variant Covers, Various Books devoted to exact same characters, comic book conventions, etc. It's you that has killed this industry.

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think Batman is way overhyped and less interesting than any of his sidekicks.

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nearly all of the problems DC has with the never-ending stream of legacy characters traces back to Denny O'Neil aging Dick Grayson out of high school.

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nightwing should not be a "Bat" character. Dick becoming Nightwing was about him moving away from his old life and fully embracing his role as the leader of the Titans. He also never should've been removed from the team and should've married Kory. I usually don't give two shits about shipping, but everything that's happened with Dick since the fakeout wedding has been a major character regression. Taylor's substantceless run is the logical conclusion of the direction Dick's gone.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You mean taking Nightwing and successfully de-compartmentalizing his life for the first time ever?
      Taylor's run may be sanitized and substanceless, but credit where credit is due. Nightwing should be a book where the Troia and Flash are just as welcome as Batman and Batgirl. This is the first run to actually make that happen.

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > Omega Red >>>>>> Sabretooth

    > Cass > Kate Kane >>> Step Brown >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Barbara Gordon

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Civil War = Weak (Frick Maria Hill)
    Necrosha = Good
    Siege = Good
    Shadowland = Good
    Fear Itself = Very Good to Near Great
    AVX = Poor
    Infinity = Fricking Great
    Secret Wars (2015) = Very Good
    Civil War 2 = Bad

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Chaos War = Good
      Fall of the Hulks = Decent
      World War Hulks = Decent
      The Trial of Jean Grey = Good

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > Bendis's Mighty Avengers arc with Ares, Frank Cho & Female Ultron was genuinely good.

    > I fricking miss Secret Avengers

    > Wolverine Evolution & sequel were fine. I really want Remus to be used again.

    > I am still pissed about the blackwashing & prudish outfits but I actually think Tessa Thompson was good as Valkyrie (frick whatever wienersucker writer made her queen of Asgard tho)

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like Jim Lee but...
    > Ivan Reis >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Turner >>> Jim Lee

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