>When comics shove in literal whos from decades ago and you're supposed to know or care about their shit

>When comics shove in literal whos from decades ago and you're supposed to know or care about their shit

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Robo was in the wrong

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Eh, he's no-shit saved the entire world multiple times over, he's earned the right to say no touchy over some of his stuff. He still should have tracked them down afterward at least.

      The old human assistants were 1000% better than the more recent ones.

      Alan's pretty good. The rest are shit. The fat girl's not even fat anymore.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >dr.dinosaur is shit
        Pls go and stay go

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You can say he "earned" it all you like. He was in the wrong and innocents got fucked over.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >innocents got fucked over
          Naw they can fuck off. They joined Tesladyne fully aware of its action-science reputation. They stuck with it after years of it being on the front line of defending against threats both novel and familiar. They lose the one single time and want to pretend they've been viciously wronged? Piss off, any other R&D lab would've taken them, they just wanted the benefits of a boss who doesn't give a shit about normal procedures but then complain about the exact problems that are expected from that boss.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Stepping out of the story though, I'd argue that this really doesn't gel with how they were written in the old days. Not that they were super deep, but even then, this is one hell of a stretch. It comes off as Brian responding to the occasional "so what, Robo really never gave a damn about his old friends?" by writing a story where it turns out that it's okay for Robo to have never made any effort by establishing them as evil.

            It isn't making for an enjoyable story.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How was he even remotely in the wrong, it was totally outside of his control, it was a secret raid conducted specifically when he was out of the country, and he got blown up to the fucking 1800s before he was even aware of it.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Different anon, but when the dust settled did he make any effort to find/rescue them? It was a while ago so I'm hazy, but I seem to remember finding it jarring that he just sorta... moved on.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              He brought Ultra's action to light and it got dismantled IIRC. Early in the arc where he got rebooted in the 21st they mentioned that the Tesladyne scientists were either in hiding, working for Ultra or dead. The first two got taken care of when Ultra was gone and the third he can't do anything about.

              What was he supposed to do, track down each ex-member of his payroll after they have no reason to hide?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >What was he supposed to do, track down each ex-member of his payroll after they have no reason to hide?

                I feel like there had to be something in between personally tracking them all down for personal assurances and just shrugging off that all his old friends were gone after they'd been through a pretty terrible experience.

                More than that I feel like this is a terrible direction to go with "whatever happened to those guys?"

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah it's a fake problem, no one in the comic even hinted before that once Ultra was defeated some Tesladyne scientists were still involved in shady stuff against their wills. Not Robo, not his humans colleagues, no one.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It feels like Brian writing a weird "take that" against his younger self. The Science Adventurers were fun good guys that were (like Robo) a little lackadaisical with the dangers of SCIENCE. So... that makes them badguys by the comic's current standards? And damn what a shitty way to finally show what happened to them. Instead of showing Robo making an effort to find out what happened to his old pals, they just show up all crazed up and evil now.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Keep this thread alive for a couple hours and we'll see what kind of reasoning they have for being baddie, maybe.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think there is an argument to be said that Robo could have, and should have, done more. But that, simply as a result of how long he has lived and the very dangerous line of work that he is in, Robo has gotten used to losing people. Too used to losing people.

                When one of his people die, he is sad about it. But then he moves on. He doesn't linger. So in the chaotic aftermath of Tesladyne getting exploded and him getting sent on a trip through time, Robo was maybe a bit too quick to write off people that he should have been out there looking for. He is not an emotionless detached machine, but he HAD become jaded about this sort of thing. Across his science adventures, a LOT of people working for Robo have died, and despite being overall a good guy Robo simply doesn't have time to mourn all of them.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Good point, except at absolutely no point in the story is there even any hint than Robo didn't do all he could've done to help Tesladyne once he came back. He gets rebooted in the present as just a head, he defeats the Biomega menace and dismantle Ultra, and that's it. No reason whatsoever for any reader to think this isn't an open and closed plotline. In the volume after that Phil (Robo's main technician/medic) is back to being a public figure and the only scientists working for Ultra's successors that we see are the two crazy scientists who made the quantum computer and accepted their deal to get out of prison.

                You can't just go "ackchually you forgot about us and that's awful" when the writer themselves clearly did because they'd rather write about three of the most flaming gays interns ever put to paper than fucking action scientists.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                In this sort of this, the omission of evidence is evidence. Yes, Robo came back and he immediately set to work defeating the Biomega and Ultra. But thats MEANS that tracking down and finding his lost scientists was not his priority. Robo, probably rightly, was focused on the big picture and saved the day. But a lot of little guys can get lost along the way and not register on the big picture.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I take most of the dialogue to mean that these guys personally felt they were more important than they really are in the grand scheme of things, and that despite their claims this is ultimately revenge for being forgotten by the narrative. The fact they treat Robo not finding them again like a personal betrayal before pivoting into a "we're going to change the status quo" means that it's not about what he did or didn't do to them, it's the fact that the story moved on without their presence that they're pissed about. Robo himself is an incredibly sentimental old man, so the likelihood he'd have forgotten them is nil. And if they really wanted to get his attention, they could have done so at any time between their disappearance and the present. The fact they went to his box of untouchable shinies with the delusion they can create a new world order says it's not about what Robo did to them personally, it's that he rebuilt Tesladyne without them.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Come to think of it, Robo seems to have forgiven Dr Dinosaur pretty quickly given he precipitated both events by a) mailing a nuke to Tesladyne and then b) using the other nukes to somehow explode Robo into the past.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Dr. Dinosaur is a force of nature. You can't contain him, you can only hope to channel his powers to the least-destructive path.

              I was a Clevinger fan back in the 8 bit theater days, but that was back when your politics didn’t define who you were as a person. I’ve fallen off of Atomic Robo in recent years because of who he’s become, so forgive me for asking a dumb question. There was that one human character who was hilariously badass. I think he was shown to be only survivor of a vampire dimension or something. Whatever happened to him?

              Even towards the end of 8-Bit you could see some of the self-loathing creeping in. I know a lot of his fans regard the "4 white mages" thing as one of the most brilliant long cons in the medium but to me it always read as just wanting to be done.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Clevinger was excellent at writing the exact kind of comic action he's famous for, but that neither makes him infallible nor worthy of scorn.
                Frankly, he ended it on the best note he possibly could have. Was it anticlimactic? Yeah: That was the nature of his comic.
                Also, White Mage has a fantastic rack, I can see why Black Mage wanted to tap that.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Dr. Dinosaur is a force of nature
                So was Jenkins and they still killed him off.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Is that better or worse than what they did to Bernard though?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Bernard's fine he's got his rock to fuck

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'd argue that the support staff HELPED save the entire world multiple times over, which should've earned them more than a "welp."

        >dr.dinosaur is shit
        Pls go and stay go

        I wouldn't call Dr. Dinosaur an assistant. More like a handicap.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The old human assistants were 1000% better than the more recent ones.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The old human assistants were 1000% better than the more recent ones.

      Yeah, I'm rereading now to get a feel for these guys and I think you might be underestimating how much better the old ones were. I'd say 10,000% easily.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I mean c'mon. They're just better.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The old human assistants were 1000% better than the more recent ones.

          Yeah, I'm rereading now to get a feel for these guys and I think you might be underestimating how much better the old ones were. I'd say 10,000% easily.

          I used to love Atomic Robo, what happened? New writer?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Too many quirky human characters in the way of dare devil adventures. The tone went from BPRD to college lab mood.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >2007 Robo: "I want to nuke these guys, shut up, I don't care about starting WWIII. Ugh, fine, we'll do it your way. Babies."

        >status quo is fragile
        >No, you stupid bitch, CIVILIZATION is fragile. I have lived more lifetimes then all 3 of you put together and all reality itself has hung on by mere threads more times than i'd care to count. so no i'm not going to just declassify shit that warps exactly that because you're going to whine about inequality and shit on the next page, bet.

        >2022 Robo: "Civilization is fragile, we need to be careful with technology."

        It's like seeing a loved one with dementia.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nooo anon you don't get it; the fun, light hearted pulp action comic has to grow up and become mature.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          One nuke is cheap shit for Robo, he practically runs on them.
          Whatever he gets in the vault is probably far beyond nukes in destructive potential.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            a nuke may not destroy society, but a Q-bomb would wipe out everything within a few LY's

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Anon, the point was that a nuke in THE MIDDLE EAST wouldn't just be "a nuke." It'd escalate into WWIII, and fast. And Robo was like "that's not my problem, they fired a death ray at me, nuke 'em" because the comic used to be a lot more fun.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >we should nuke it
        Much later...
        >nooo ALAN you cant just nuke the world to launch a space ship because earth and humanity is shit

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are they doing the white women and cat meme

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      good catch

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >status quo is fragile
    >No, you stupid bitch, CIVILIZATION is fragile. I have lived more lifetimes then all 3 of you put together and all reality itself has hung on by mere threads more times than i'd care to count. so no i'm not going to just declassify shit that warps exactly that because you're going to whine about inequality and shit on the next page, bet.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I mean, if she whines about equality on the next page it'll be because this book reads like it was written by a completely different person than the author of 13 years ago. Ada and the others used to be pretty neat.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Funny, in one of the Atomic Robo books there's a bonus short story at the end about a journalist coming in for an interview with Robo in Tesladyne Island, and asking what it is they actually do all day. The scientists mention stuff like cheap as fuck solar panels and suchlike, that would already have a pretty big effect on the world, but I guess the writers forgot about that.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Its fairly explicit that the world is already majorly benefitting from the superscience as much as it is endangered by it. The guys in Japan were already patenting things like hyper-efficient solar panels and completely climate-independent crops. Tesladyne was opening up wormholes and building industrial mechs and quantum super computers. The idea that they need to go into the special vault to change the world rather than using their own death ray building super intellect is fucking absurd.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Its fairly explicit that the world is already majorly benefitting from the superscience as much as it is endangered by it.
          Is it? That page only says these things are being developed. The comic is only now catching up to 2020 and I don't recall seeing anything about global food or energy problems being solved yet. Tesladyne was still trying to get their solar thing to work.

          These research outfits like Tesladyne are still playing around with world changing super-science, but the world outside doesn't appear to have changed much.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >but the world outside doesn't appear to have changed much.
            And that's an issue of writing. There are gigantic murder mutants, orbital railguns, and giant fighting robots. A man was just able to turn a train into a relativistic kill device. Even if not a single fucking thing from any other organization ever made it out of skunk works the shit those 3 have personally seen and gotten ahold of would be enough to change the setting from our normal.
            Its the same shit as Marvel, trying to keep the status quo similar to our reality so its 'relatable' makes the entire setting fall apart into nonsense.
            The trio could go through Ultra or Majestic or whatever's records themselves and likely change the world off that alone.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The downfall of Atomic Robo, both in term of writing and art, is truly something sad.

    The total lack of introspection from the author as to why no one has given a shit for half a decade now is ridiculous. AR used to be one of the big names in indie comic, now it's barely a footnote and you can completely blame it on the original creative team.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It was one of the first comics i started reading on Comixology. It's pretty fun and goofy from what i remember. I always preferred fun all ages comics compared to the grimness of the Big Two.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I liked the fact that robot Hellboy's mooks weren't complete cannon fodder like actual Hellboy's dudes, at least back in the day.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Today's page.

    It's not getting better.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >OH MY GOD HE'S REACHING FOR HIS BANTER GET DOWN
      This isn't a comic, this is brain poison.
      ...okay, maybe it's 2022 comic

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They should know better than to get a backronym in that universe.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've been out of touch with Atomic Robo for years, but is this implying that all of Robo's former assistants have become the same kind of pretentious evil scientists they constantly fought against working at Tesladyne? Like, they've got the same "We're going to rock the status quo" motive and backronym tendencies and everything.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What the fuck happened to this comic's art style?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The collapse was starting back during the flying she-devils.
        I mean, if you're not writing pulp adventure why bother having good art to compliment the gratuitous storytelling?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I miss when Robo was built like a brick shithouse.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I was a Clevinger fan back in the 8 bit theater days, but that was back when your politics didn’t define who you were as a person. I’ve fallen off of Atomic Robo in recent years because of who he’s become, so forgive me for asking a dumb question. There was that one human character who was hilariously badass. I think he was shown to be only survivor of a vampire dimension or something. Whatever happened to him?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He died saving the earth from the same vampires in the last volume.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't believe that. Death is just a risky day for him.
        And yes, the now-evil (because anyone who opposes the main character is therefore evil) employees are right.
        Don't give everyone death rays, but do give everyone the ability to live in a post-scarcity utopia.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He got tagged by the vampirius so ALAN had to empty his skull cavity before he turned into the single most dangerous vampire to ever exist.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The premise would work just as good if they were made up on the spot, considering the company is 100 years old. Actually having characters to call back to probably made one superfan go "oooh".

    Still not good, but far from unreadable.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There's also the flip side of the chapter, where some of Robo's greatest nemeses show up as mellowed-out anti-villains. Also some kind of spiderbot lady? Anyone know who she is?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      derp forgot image

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah this is the bit that's pissing me off more
      You can't turn Helsingard into a cheap joke when he's been the one closest to punching Robo's ticket and take over the world more than anyone or thing else.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Reusing Ghost Edison after all these years piss me off more.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Back off, man!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Robo really owes Dr Dinosaur an apology, now that it's been proven that both time travel is possible, and crystals aren't new-age hokum.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Aw shit I haven't seen this until that Robo's weird son thing showed up. How's it been, bros?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is basically Robo's retirement party. All of his loose ends are showing up at once so he can tell them to fuck off and quit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ALAN's alright. So is Robo.
      Everyone else sucks.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There's no sense of anybody being serious in Robo's team anymore. It is all bright colors, cheery smiles, and quirks.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The smart thing to do here would be to offer an olive branch.

    "You know what? This is exactly the opportunity to prove to me you're right. I'm here to do an audit of everything in the vault anyway. Maybe some of this stuff I WAS overzealous with in the first place, and doesn't need to be locked up anymore. But some of this stuff is literal doomsday tech, stuff you three might not even know about because I never told you. We'll go through everything in here, one by one, and anything you can convince me would make the world a better place as opposed to turn it into a black hole or whatever we can work on. We worked together once, I want to believe we can again. This doesn't have to be a fight. What do you say?'

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I imagine that what he'll do.
      >Alan busts in, saves the day
      >Robo gets their cooperation
      >Bad guys from the B plot show up
      >Sudden three way showdown
      >Robo throws in the towel he's had it with this shit
      >Bad guys were only here for him
      >Alan secures their help too
      >Everyone's surprisingly happy and cooperative
      >Robot stands around looking a little sad and lost

      Either that of these new bad guys are funded by Branson and have no idea they're mostly there just to fuck with Robo.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Stupid writers write stupid people pretending to be smart.

      So nah.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Man, I dropped Atomic Robo around the time of the dyke WWII pilots. Guess it only got worse.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Awful Hospital is still doing the library thing
    >Unsounded is almost over
    >atomic robo is a shell of its former self
    >step monster has been on hiatus for 9 years
    >avas demon is gone
    >The last halloween is dead
    Holy shit what happened? How did I end up in a time line where fucking out of placers is the only thing in my bookmarks that isn't dead or gone to shit? Hell man I still have the first big atomic robo collection in my living room.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      is almost over
      Unsounded is almost halfway over.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oh? Nice, I thought this was the last arc/chapter

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Final chapter of the first half, the second half is meant to be focused on Alderode.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Look up Caelum Sky. An idiot ghost gets adopted as a pet dinosaur and has to deal with commercial exorcists.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Looks neat, thanks for the recommendation

        Final chapter of the first half, the second half is meant to be focused on Alderode.

        Gotcha that's a relief.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        is the dinosaur a girl?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Ava's Demon is gone
      Man, there's a couple of hours left for the kickstarter for book 2 and Michelle streams herself working on pages all the time

      >step monster has been on hiatus for 9 years
      you just made me sad

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Problem with Ava's Demon is that the updates have been so inconsistent and far apart for years that it might as well be dead at this point.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Didn't Ava's Demon die because tumblr got bent out of shape about porn, so we then tried to insist that it was totally about underaged fucking to piss them off, only for it to blow up in both our faces and the creator just stopped doing the comic altogether?

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