Pretty much the same. I loved the Prequels and still do, but had no interest in Filoni Wars. I watched Ep 7 and walked out knowing Disney had done the impossible: they killed Star Wars for me.
I haven't watch anything Star Wars since 2015 and loved the six Lucas movies. Now, I just don't care.
While I personally really liked TCW, there is no denying it was the beginning of the end. Way too childish and just had this weird vibe to it. Its a fun show but I would have preferred it be a one off thing instead of becoming the new norm and replacing old eu cannon.
Also the inhibitor chips retcon was retarded. Makes order 66 way less impactful.
>Also the inhibitor chips retcon was retarded. Makes order 66 way less impactful.
Based. For someone who was passionate about the clones and order 66 as an event, this was the single most destructive retcon they could have possibly pulled and basically killed what remained of my passion for the franchise.
>Also the inhibitor chips retcon was retarded. Makes order 66 way less impactful.
Based. For someone who was passionate about the clones and order 66 as an event, this was the single most destructive retcon they could have possibly pulled and basically killed what remained of my passion for the franchise.
"order 66" never had any impact. it was always the laziest, stupidest way for george to suddenly get rid of all the telepathic/precognitive space wizards.
>Also the inhibitor chips retcon was retarded. Makes order 66 way less impactful.
Based. For someone who was passionate about the clones and order 66 as an event, this was the single most destructive retcon they could have possibly pulled and basically killed what remained of my passion for the franchise.
The chips were necessary when they decided to make Clones individuals with free will in the Filoni cartoons. In the movies they're just conditioned flesh droids, in the cartoons they're actually friends with the Jedi who serve the Republic out of a genuine sense of duty
You really think after over a decade of loathing that writing choice from the bottom of my soul you're gonna stumble in here and fucking illuminate me with the wisdom of your room-temp-iq post? Is that what you thought you were gonna do? Go fuck a cup of sand.
Did I ask about my own anger levels? Nope. You bumbled in, failed to read the room, and said the most smooth-brain thing you could possibly come up with. People reacted accordingly and now you're acting like they asked you for anger solutions and didn't like your prescription. Suck my entire dick forever.
3 months ago
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damn dude you sure owned me
3 months ago
Anonymous
>damn dude you sure owned me
No shit sherlock, now bend over and spread or get the fuck out the thread
Clones were friends with the Jedi in the movies as well. Look at the Obi-Wan and Cody scenes. They were never presented as flesh droids. They expressed all kinds of emotions, and the movie deliberately portrayed them without their helmets, thus humanizing them. Lucas also stated that the Jedi wouldn't lead droids, they have to connect to life force. The Jedi wouldn't connect to an army of soulless sociopaths. There had to be genuine, mutual trust. As for order 66, Lucas said that the clones are Manchurian candidates, aka sleeping agents. Inhibitor chips just explained the precise mechanics of it, similar to midichlorians.
>The chips were necessary when they decided to make Clones individuals with free will >free will >individuals
Haha just like real soldiers right? No, but those would never turn on the people they were meant to protect. They would also never just blindly follow the will of their superiors. Yeah no, it must all be because a le heckin magic computer chip in their brains made them want to do a bunch of bad things.
>noooo why can't I just overthrow the government when I'm mad that my reality TV show host lost this is LITERALLY FASCISM
btw jan 6 only got as far as it did because Cops are all drumpft supporters, if jan 6 was perpetrated by leftist BLM mobs they would have all got shot before they even reached the front steps
its sad that the closest thing to a march on capital hill happened because of cheeto man, but the response is a clear indication that is the weak point.
>if jan 6 was perpetrated by leftist BLM mobs they would have all got shot before they even reached the front steps >le oppressed good boi niggas would've all been shot execution style by the KKKops before they even reached the front steps if they tried this >Meanwhile, in reality............
Here's a picture of a whole group of black panther KANGZ waving guns and making demands inside of the Capitol building.
>In the movies they're just conditioned flesh droids, in the cartoons they're actually friends with the Jedi who serve the Republic
You're a dimwit. The movies make sure to explain that they chose the perfect donor for a soldier that is both smart and obedient. Nothing prevents them from being friends with the Jedi in the movies, but they have an absolute allegiance towards Palpatine. Order 66 is aptly named order for a good reason, it's not a trigger.
>Way too childish
No more childish than the films. Star Wars is for 12 year olds.
All Star Wars movies are rated PG, with ROTS being PG-13 because of the immolation scene. TCW was PG-V, which is on the verge of PG-13. Lucas himself stated time and time again, that the series is exactly like the movies. >George Lucas: The TV series is exactly like the movies, exactly. I mean, you can see it in the clip. It’s basically just the movies only with cartoon characters. It’s basically a dramatic series, there’s a lot of action, a bit of humor. It runs along at the same level. It’s unusual for an animated film, because it’s not really hardcore like say “Beowulf” and it’s not a Pixar movie, so it kind of falls in between in this funny world where “Star Wars” is, which is kind of hard-edged but not really, sort of on the verge of PG-13, flips over once in a while, but sort of the high end of PG.
When I like saw a tv news broadcast for the brand new Star Wars movie, the Phantom Menace, I was like 8, and it showed all these people lining up weeks in advance and some chick dressed as Leia was sword fighting with someone and they knocked her buns off and she went scrambling to pick them up,and I thought ‘These are the most pathetic people I’ve ever seen’
The phantom menace is when it died. I literally fell asleep and I was 12. I wasn't the type to nap. It was so fucking boring. The prequels sucked dick.
Attack of the Clones. But then I actually got interested in film canon, went back to Star Wars and realized that everyone at the time was too blinded by the Hollywood blockbuster formula to understand what Lucas was trying to do. I mean, it's still a goofy and shitty movie, but I've never, ever seen a critic address the movie on the terms set by Lucas in his presenting it to the world.
And what terms are those, anon? Even Lucas was quite concerned with what his contemporaries were doing at the time when he was making the prequels >We're never going to beat Titanic, no one can
I stopped after Attack of the Clones, not because I thought it was bad (I actually remember liking both it and Phantom Menace a lot) but because I just lost interest, so to this day I still haven't watched Revenge of the Sith or any other Star Wars media.
The phantom menace is when it died. I literally fell asleep and I was 12. I wasn't the type to nap. It was so fucking boring. The prequels sucked dick.
>Hard mode: no sequels
im a 98 babby and i remember the prequels being kind of fun, i never watched them again though.
i used to watch early seasons of TCW with my dad and brother and had a good time
when i came out of TFA my critical thinking faculties were almost formed and i remember being disappointed in the rip-off plot, and not impressed by any of the characters, but still coping/hoping it would end up better
after i saw TLJ I never watched a second of star wars ever again. that movie fucking sucked
I liked the movies but became a huge fan because of Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic. I haven't played Star Wars Jedi: Survivor yet but will probably like it. I loved the first one. I barely consider the force is female movies and shows as part of it.
Yeah when the sale was announced, it was officially dead. Anybody that expected quality content to be produced became an absurdly easily identifiable pleb.
Probably TCW, if only because by the time I really became a fan of Star Wars the prequels already existed. If you're asking "When did Star Wars go to shit?" the answer is obvious The Phantom Menace.
It's literally the worst Star Wars film that isn't any of the sequels.
The show is mega cringe, too. No, I will not sit through 3 seasons of garbage waiting for a handful of okay episodes.
This
See that little credit that says >Director- Dave Filoni
There's a reason why Ahsoka is flopping.
Because nobody has a fucking clue who any of these people are. Filoni, get this through your cowboy hat:
Nobody watched Rebels.
It doesn't matter how much you insist we know and care about these characters (who are clearly at the end of their development arcs and have nowhere to go narratively) it's not gonna magically endear us to your goofy looking characters and their dumb broken droid or their ugly ass over-greebled ships. Everything feels childish and gaudy and unmistakably Filoni in the worst way possible.
It's literally the worst Star Wars film that isn't any of the sequels.
The show is mega cringe, too. No, I will not sit through 3 seasons of garbage waiting for a handful of okay episodes.
I'd be willing to bet it killed star wars for almost as many people as the disney purchase did. There's something to integrally cringe about the Filoni stuff and he's just never been able to overcome that vibe, even in live action.
I think it's obviously better than the PT itself--or at least was after a couple seasons--but there was a sense of desperation that made it off-putting, especially back in 2008. The movie itself is also pretty bad, even by the low standards set for Star Wars by 2008.
i still had hope it could be good again at some point and was still able to get angry at each new godawful thing until this.
>Why does Harrison Ford hate Star Wars?
Gee no idea.
The prequels have a stronger thematic core and are more artistically ambitious, but they're also dogshit. TCW is a decent-enough action-adventure cartoon with nice production values. Its biggest problem as a show is dealing with a conflict that, almost by design, is fucking boring. The Clone Wars are a boring setting and were always boring. Like the Tartakovsky miniseries it uses them as a canvas and mostly works as an excuse to explore the galaxy.
In terms of continuity it's contrived, but then so are the prequels themselves.
For me it was what you posted OP. That show came in and either simplified or fucked up so many little aspects of star wars it insane. Dave Filoni, while being a decent guy, is fundamentally incapable of coming up with anything cool, and now his weenie hut jr lifetime membership holding characters have spread out and infected every part of the franchise like a mold. I'll never forgive him and lucas for fucking up Order 66 with that dumbass brain chip garbage, or the retarded helicopter lightsabers. Literally the only reason this shit is remembered fondly is because it was the last bastion of SW before the rat took over and legit kamikazi'd the entire series. But it was already half-dead with the damage filoni was doing.
You posted it.
Although to be fair, clone wars has a lot of good episodes. It just happens that what people say are good episodes really aren't, so you have to watch everything to find them yourself because if you follow a guide it will end up being a miserable experience.
When I saw the phantom menace for the first time when it was in the theatre. You guys are used to star wars sucking, it's hard to describe the bummer that we felt.
I'd honestly be interested to hear more details. I've seen some pretty crazy footage of people coming out of the theater and falling to their knees and sobbing, but I assume that's mostly autism and less a genuine reaction. I've always had a fascination in huge media failures and this is one of the biggest examples in history.
I was only 8 at the time so I couldn't understand, however I remember going to events after the movie had come out, kids would be referencing the movie and there was this pervading sense that all the adults in the room fucking hated the movie but were holding their tongues.
Before the movie came out a plot description was put online by someone. I fought with a guy online who was convinced it was real that there was no way this could be the plot, it was so stupid and boring. Turned out to be 100% real of course.
Star wars used to be some of the coolest movies back then, we thought: why don't they make more movies like this? It would be so great! Then the new ones got announced, said that technology had finally advanced so much, that lucas' Vision could finally be put on screen - exciting. And he cast Ewan MacGregor, who was a cool indie actor, which also pleased us. First trailer came out and we were extatic, it looked so dope!
From the first moment on you could tell something was off, from the opening crawl. Boredom, stupidity, jarjar and the fucking kid, it was so heavily disappointing. All the anticipation just turning into a wet fart, it was saddening. Watched it many times, trying to like it, enjoying the podrace and the light saber duel because dumb teenager, but still. Tremendous disappointment.
I had similar but not as heavy disappointments seeing star trek generations and matrix reloaded. After those 3 nothing shocked me anymore and I started to expect every movie will be shut. Took the enjoyment out of looking forward to a movie.
>star wars prequels then matrix reloaded
This is my trajectory as well, how I learned to anticipate that all sequels/prequels/etc should be considered shit until proven otherwise.
All this is true. People act like the Plinkett reviews came up with all the criticisms of the Prequels and people started parroting it after, but in reality, he just took all the popular talking points from people online and organized it and condensed it into an entertaining video essay.
Revenge. I like TPM for the pod race and final battle scenes (I was 12). Clones was pretty boring. I liked the last 20 minutes or so of Revenge. But I was just tired of SW at that point. The ending of Revenge tied everything up in a nice bow and I was said my goodbye.
When that was announced I was displeased
When it was announced that Genndy's series was non-canon I dropped it
I learned memes from Cinemaphile and unfortunately had to watch the 2nd sequel as part of a family night
The prequels were not great movies like the OT but they still brought some cool world building/lore, it was the last thing I enjoyed, I tried watching clone wars the cartoon but it was just too childish for me, couldn't get past the first episode.
The Clone Wars is pure, unfiltered George Lucas. The purest outside of THX-1138 and his experimental movies. Not pressured by expectations and limitations of practical filming. If you hate it, then you unironically don't understand a thing about Star Wars, and I can only imagine how giga filtered you would have been had he actually produced his ludo kino sequel trilogy. I have to say, that people like the OP completely and utterly deserve Disney's sequels.
You deserve Disney, like I said. You also never liked the actual Star Wars - only the idea of Star Wars in your head and some shitty fanfics that missed the point entirely. You have honestly no authority whatsoever to declare what is good or bad Star Wars - you fundamentally don't understand what makes it.
I hate prequelfags so much it's unreal. They're all petty, catty little queens who have an eternal victim complex and delude themselves into believing there was NEVER a controversial Star Wars movie before Disney because they were four years old when Attack of the Clones came out
is brainwashed by ecelebs
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's actually worse.
He's saying anyone who doesn't like his shitty cartoon deserves this.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>nooo stop throwing syrofoam at me it's really irritating
lmfao what is the fanboy excuse for this? he used the force to reinforce his skeleton against being pummeled with a thousand boulders?
LMAO
3 months ago
Anonymous
You do. It's dark and gritty just like the EU. And it had Jabiim there! You should practically cream your pants. And it had Vader snapping children's necks in there! George sure would never have done it. And Obi-Wan throwing a massive pile of rocks with the force? Well, sweet baby Jesus, that's just like my favorite Genndy Tartakovsky's cartoon!!!
3 months ago
Anonymous
I don't because I like real Star Wars, unlike you.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I'm older than you are and to me, the prequels aren't "real Star Wars" because of shit that is fundamentally contradictory to my engagement with the original trilogy.
As someone who really connected to all of the Yoda stuff in ESB, I will NEVER accept midichlorians or Yoda flipping around murdering people. Sorry.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Yoda flipping around murdering people.
I can imagine this exact moment being the breaking point for a lot of folks. Just mind-numbing levels of dumb now that I really think about it.
3 months ago
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the prequels lost me at >fellow precognitive space wizard, my personal precognition is detecting something wrong with this situation >... god dammit shut the fuck up and stop being precognitive >yeah okay good idea lets head directly into this obvious trap
which is the first couple lines in tpm, if I recall.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You've misremembered the beginning of TPM, here's how it really went: >Master, I am sensing something bad >what is it apprentice? >I don't know but it's not around here and it's very elusive >focus on the present situation my apprentice, I can sense the aliens are much more cowardly than normal for something very trivial, stay focused.
3 months ago
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>you're misremembering
okay where's the part where he doesn't shut down the other's attempt to reach out with his feelings and feel whats happening around him?
3 months ago
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>I can imagine this exact moment being the breaking point for a lot of folks.
It wasn't and most people loved seeing how Yoda performed as a jedi, theaters erupted in cheers, you just had to be there.
3 months ago
Anonymous
See I was there, and my theater burst out laughing in mockery. My single-perspective anecdote cancels out your single-perspective anecdote.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I bet you're older than me, as well. The OT was my first engagement with Star Wars as well and Yoda using a lightsaber and flipping around with the Force was never as world ending as you lead-poisoned geriatrics continue to make it out to be.
Don't open this webm, you might get a heart attack.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, because you're a dumb shit who has never engaged with these movies in any way beyond wikipedia plot points and inane trivia factoids.
There is NOTHING wrong with the pacifistic swamp midget who existed to show that true spiritual power transcends physical ability, nope, just turn him into a cgi monster and have him flip around as he goes to town with his little laser sword
3 months ago
Anonymous
And there's nothing wrong with said magical midget using magic to make him jump good and fight cool.
It takes NOTHING away except your stupid headcanon that your homosexual father should have beat out of you.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>wars not make one great >Jedi uses the force for knowledge and defense, never for attack >Prequels have tons of scenes of Yoda murdering people in indulgent displays of graphic violence
ebin
3 months ago
Anonymous
>wars not make one great
Wow I wonder when he learned that? >Jedi uses the force for knowledge and defense, never for attack
After defending himself from Dooku and only igniting his lightsaber after Dooku. >Prequels have tons of scenes of Yoda murdering people in indulgent displays of graphic violence
Oh, there's Yoda learning the lesson that war isn't great.
3 months ago
Anonymous
all of the idea that the prequel Jedi were LE FLAWED AND PRIDEFUL THEY COULDN'T SEE THEIR DOWNFALL xD is entirely post-facto coping by Dave Filoni in an attempt to explain why the prequel Jedi are so weird and alienating to people who aren't on the spectrum
3 months ago
Anonymous
Not the guy you're responding to, but is this supposed to be cool? Interesting? Emotional? It's a humanoid frog having a lightstick fight with what appears to be a chalk sculpture. They're both representing characters who's primary draw is their intellect and mindset, none of which are presented in this awkward looking exchange. This tells me nothing about either of these characters and it certainly doesn't make either of them look admirable or heroic.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>two great swordsman having a cool looking battle >B-BUT WHAT DOES THIS SAY ABOUT THEM AS CHARACTERS?!?!?!?!?
You're a homosexual pseud.
3 months ago
Anonymous
That you are incapable of discerning of the themes or human elements of the OT that people connected with and your engagement with Star Wars is incredibly childish and reductive to the point you just boil it down to TWO COOL DUDES FIGHTING xD reveals more about yourself than the people you're trying to debate with lol
3 months ago
Anonymous
>IT LOOKS COOL WHY DOES IT HAVE TO MEAN OR SAY SOMETHING??
... prequelfags, everyone
3 months ago
Anonymous
>NOOOOO IT CAN'T JUST BE JUST RULE OF COOL IT HAS TO MEAN SOMETHING DEEP AND EMOTIONAAAAAAAAAL
3 months ago
Anonymous
>rule of cool
special effect without a story.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>special effect without a story
Good way to describe your birth.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I accept your concession.
3 months ago
Anonymous
brutal
3 months ago
Anonymous
3 months ago
Anonymous
I'm sure you really hurt his feelings buddy.
3 months ago
Anonymous
It would seem I've hurt yours instead.
Are you gay lovers?
3 months ago
Anonymous
No no I really mean it, you pwned him. I'm giving you a virtual high-five right now! Big ups!
3 months ago
Anonymous
Hey, thanks man 🙂
3 months ago
Anonymous
you got it buddy!
3 months ago
Anonymous
Ruthless. Truly Devastating.
3 months ago
Anonymous
holy shit
3 months ago
Anonymous
Wew lad, that's spicy
3 months ago
Anonymous
Ouch
3 months ago
Anonymous
rekt
3 months ago
Anonymous
>I am literally a (man)child just responding to bright stimuli
you are so fucking embarrassing lmao
3 months ago
Anonymous
We know you are, crying about how a flipping midget ruined your childhood.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>I know you are but what am I
Prequelfags, everyone
3 months ago
Anonymous
Not an argument
3 months ago
Anonymous
>tries to call other people manchildren for not liking the ADHD flashing lights bullshit of the prequels >resorts to grade school deflection bullshit as a comeback
Again, prequelfags, everybody
3 months ago
Anonymous
I didn't say that at all.
Try to keep up, grandpa.
3 months ago
Anonymous
And yet he's somehow still embarrassing you
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's not cool, it's sterile and retarded.
3 months ago
Anonymous
But it's not cool. it's goofy and awkward looking, as I already said in my post. I thought that when I saw it as a kid too. You just gonna pretend I said I thought it was cool?
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's pretty cool. You're just lame.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Not an argument
3 months ago
Anonymous
Just pretending to be like you.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>two great swordsman
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's possible to have action scenes that manage to look cool and develop other facets of the story. I'm not asking for A Touch of Zen here, but most of the prequel fights don't even look cool. The prequels didn't even manage to have the best looking fights in early 2000s blockbusters.
3 months ago
Anonymous
careful, you're gonna send him on another 30 post phychotic unraveling
3 months ago
Anonymous
it really is harrowing to think the matrix came out the same year.
3 months ago
Anonymous
i like how even when he's fighting a CGI character that won't even be in the screen, he still doesn't swing the saber anywhere near it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
This is literally 99% of movie fights, they're pretty much all bad from a realism standpoint. At least that fight has some decent choreography and music, it's more like a little dance than a fight.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>wow this looks really cool I can barely tell what's going on I should look closer >oh wow upon closer inspection it actually looks like shit and is utterly laughable.
the cool thing about using camera tricks (which requires moving the camera around) is you can create the impression of actual danger to various characters, despite it not being there. then you're only ability to complain is "oh the cut means they moved" instead of being able to look directly at the screen and see they aren't even trying to hit each other.
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's just a dance, it looks nothing like actual fighting.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Why didn't Yoda teach these sick fighting techniques to Luke? He was holding out.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Luke was doing flips though
3 months ago
Anonymous
It isn't world-ending, but it is rather retarded. The terrible throne room fight in TLJ wasn't world-ending either, but it was likewise rather retarded.
3 months ago
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>This guy
[...]
Don't tremble, EUfag. Deep down you understand, that you are no different from RLM. You got what you deserved. >thinks
You're already too generous. Prequelfags don't think.
I hate prequelfags so much it's unreal. They're all petty, catty little queens who have an eternal victim complex and delude themselves into believing there was NEVER a controversial Star Wars movie before Disney because they were four years old when Attack of the Clones came out
>Wow guys, see the gold lights, and all the cool mask things? This must be really important! I bet these force god things are powerful enough to wipe out the deathstar with a flick of the wrist. And they're really just a fraction of this bigger thing that has the entire force inside of it. See, it's just like marvel now, which is cool because I like marvel. And by posting a bunch of frames of this neat golden stuff, I can make this look like one of those cinematography things people used to make. That'll help me seem like I know what I'm talking about when I go on my high-minded phychotic rant about how a shitty cartoon is the essence of a franchise that had already existed for 3+ decades by the time it was made. If anyone disagrees with me I'll just tell them they don't know what star wars is!
>force gods
Didn't read further. You missed the point entirely. Many such cases with low IQ genetic deadends on this board. Someone should pray for you.
Ignorant and proud of it. Typical genetic deadend behavior. Tries to mock something being child-like, while posting in a thread about a franchise for children, while at the same time resorting to petty insults, because have nothing substantial to say. Very sad behavior.
See when you try to do the overly-verbose big brain thing you gotta be very sure you don't make basic grammatical mistakes like this or else it makes it really obvious you're sitting in a gamer chair with one hand buried in your fupa while typing this.
>The Clone Wars is pure, unfiltered George Lucas.
No, Dave Feloni had lots of input on the series and George's involvement with each episode fluctuated quite a bit. There were a lot of episodes where he was only a consultant, such as the entire premature order 66 arc where brain chips were established, blue shadow virus wqas another one.
Nope. Order 66 story came from Lucas and the script was written by his daughter. The only stories that came not from him were the first 13 or so episodes, which were still approved and line edited by him.
It did. Every arc started with Lucas setting up a conference with the scriptwriters and episodic directors, telling the overall story and plot points. Just like ESB and ROTJ, the story came from him, but the script was written by Kasdan. You are not very bright.
“It’s much easier for me to just do the show I want, say, ‘Here it is, do you wish to license it or not?’ ” Mr. Lucas said. “That’s it. There’s no notes, no comments. I don’t care what your opinion is. You either put it on the air or you don’t.”
Never really loved the OT but I loved the prequels. Tried to watch the filioni tcw but hated it, watched TFA and never watched another star wars movie in the theatre after that. Gave up completely after the kenobi show
>when disney threw george lucas under the bus
When did this happen? Disney owed George absolutely nothing. He SOLD Lucasfilm. If I purchase your house from you, it is MINE. Not yours. You don't get to claim some kind of perpetual spiritual ownership over it that allows you to dictate what renovations I can and can't make to it.
But Poor Widdle George, the poor billionaire, he just couldn't make new Star Wars movies on his own despite owning the largest independent film studio on the planet, the Disney israeliteS strongarmed him out of his beloved franchise that he cared so little about he decided to cash out completely!
Fuck you, cunt. God Lucas dickriders are such inspidid little shits, they think being a passive aggressive little manbaby is sympathetic behavior
No no you don't get it, some fat loser from wisconsin cyberbullied Lucas with a youtube account that somehow brainwashed everybody so poor Lucas had no choice but to sell out. And don't think for one minute that youtuber was just pandering to opinions his audience already had! No sir, everybody loved these movies but the evil youtuber brainwashed people into hating something they previously loved and became popular by telling people the thing they liked was actually bad.
Even back in 2008 the primary compliment toward RLM was that they "put words to thoughts everybody already had about the prequels". This idea that they singlehandedly turned the world against lucas is some hardcore revisionist history, mostly propagated by RLM fans themselves who want to believe their parasocial friends have a much bigger impact on hollywood than they really do. I say this as someone who has casually watched RLM since the first plinkett reviews.
>When did this happen? Disney owed George absolutely nothing.
They had a verbal agreement to at least take something from the scripts he wrote, and he had this agreement from someone he worked with for years and trusted. Maybe to people like you honoring your words means nothing.
When Disney bought it, it died. Prequels were pretty bad but they were at least honest filmmaking from someone trying to make something good. Disney slop is malicious in its intent on top of being schlock. It is designed as an attack on the fandom that kept it alive for decades.
Star Wars died at different stages for different groups of people.
- For Star Wars fans, it died in the late 90's
- For George Lucas fans, it died in 2012
- For bad faith actors, it never died its doing better than ever, biggot
>Start watching The Mandalorian Season 3 with my father and brother, just like I watched previous seasons >Nothing makes sense or has a continuation from the end of season 2 >I learn online that I have to watch three episodes of a show I don't give a shit about and was barely promoted just to know what is happening
BRAVO DISNEY
>I learn online that I have to watch three episodes of a show I don't give a shit about and was barely promoted just to know what is happening
This is standard Disney now. To know what is going on in the latest MCU movie, you need to have seen these two Disney+ series. To know what is happening in this live action show, you need to have seen this other cartoon series from a decade ago. Every new thing they make requires you to have intimate knowledge of some other show or movie, half the time totally unrelated to what you are watching now.
I personally feel like the OT and the PT ties together into a good coherent story and there is no point in watching any of the other shit. We follow anakin and lukes story and it has a decent ending where vader is redeemed and the galaxy is free or whatever. Literally didn’t need anything else after that.
It really was the sequels for me. I can't say anything otherwise. Just the fact that they make everything that happened in the OT not matter at all. I don't understand how any ST fan can just shrug that off.
In April 2004, Jim Ward, V.P. of marketing, online and global distributions at Lucasfilm, was appointed president of LucasArts.[49] Ward performed a top-to-bottom audit of LucasArts infrastructure, describing the company's state as "quite a mess."
Previous Star Wars games had been produced by external developers such as Raven Software, BioWare and Obsidian; Ward now prioritized making LucasArts' internal game development work effectively and adapt to the evolving game industry. Star Wars: Battlefront, Star Wars: Republic Commando, and Star Wars: Episode III survived cuts that closed down other in-development games and reduced staff from about 450 to 190 employees.
Ward also canceled Star Wars Rogue Squadron Trilogy which was 50% completed and it was going to be released on the Xbox in 2004.
Factor 5 was going to develop a Rogue Squadron game titled Rogue Squadron: X-Wing vs Tie Fighter for the Xbox 360 but it was canceled by LucasArts.
The rapid scaling down of internal projects at LucasArts was also reflected in its handling of games developed by external developers. During the tenure of Ward, Free Radical was contracted to produce Star Wars: Battlefront III, which had been in production for 2 years. Free Radical co-founder Steve Ellis described how working with LucasArts evolved from being "the best relationship we'd ever had with a publisher" to withholding money for 6 months and abusing the independent developer's position to withhold the full project cancellation fee—this was a major event which contributed towards Free Radical entering administration.
On September 16, 2008, Star Wars: The Force Unleashed was released to mixed reviews
I didn't watch the sequels. Whatever happened there I don't give a shit but I refuse to believe it was any worse than both Jar Jar Binks and spinning thats a good trick in a movie that also introduced midichlorians.
Midichlorians are the dumbest thing in star wars canon, and george made that up as well so its undeniably canon forever and that is the exact moment star wars died forever.
>I refuse to believe it was any worse than both Jar Jar Binks and spinning thats a good trick in a movie that also introduced midichlorians.
Well, there's the fact that everything Luke, Han and Leia did to bring the empire down meant absolutely nothing and Vader sacrificing himself and finding redemption is pointless because the Emperor is still alive and in power. That kind makes the other bullshit you bitched about pale in comparison.
why do you millennials hate the prequels so much?
theyre good films with a surprising amount of depth. They're essentially a modern Greek tragedy as a whole and it's really interesting to see it play out.
its a greek tradgey as written by someone who's only ever read the cliffnotes of greek tragedies. all the "detail" is in service to an overarching plot where everyone in the galaxy is stupid except for the bad guy.
No idea. My dad liked to show me 80’s movies when I was a kid so I watched the first one, but I never really got into it. In hs I went on my friend’s family beach trip and they watched the sequels in the car on the way there, but I fell asleep and all I remember is the fight at the lava place. I watched one movie from the new trilogy in theaters with a friend but I fell asleep and only remember Kylo Ren and the new orange r2-d2. Long story short, just never got into it and don’t really care
Disney suspending the completion of the finale episodes and going straight to Rebels apropos of nothing following the Disney purchase (then only doing it years later). What the fuck.
Yeah 3d clone wars was the first shit I had no interest in after trying it. Don't think I watched anything new after that point.
Force Awakens was when I turned around and actually said nah, I'm over this
Prequels I liked because I was a kiddo
Pretty much the same. I loved the Prequels and still do, but had no interest in Filoni Wars. I watched Ep 7 and walked out knowing Disney had done the impossible: they killed Star Wars for me.
I haven't watch anything Star Wars since 2015 and loved the six Lucas movies. Now, I just don't care.
While I personally really liked TCW, there is no denying it was the beginning of the end. Way too childish and just had this weird vibe to it. Its a fun show but I would have preferred it be a one off thing instead of becoming the new norm and replacing old eu cannon.
Also the inhibitor chips retcon was retarded. Makes order 66 way less impactful.
>Also the inhibitor chips retcon was retarded. Makes order 66 way less impactful.
Based. For someone who was passionate about the clones and order 66 as an event, this was the single most destructive retcon they could have possibly pulled and basically killed what remained of my passion for the franchise.
"order 66" never had any impact. it was always the laziest, stupidest way for george to suddenly get rid of all the telepathic/precognitive space wizards.
The chips were necessary when they decided to make Clones individuals with free will in the Filoni cartoons. In the movies they're just conditioned flesh droids, in the cartoons they're actually friends with the Jedi who serve the Republic out of a genuine sense of duty
You really think after over a decade of loathing that writing choice from the bottom of my soul you're gonna stumble in here and fucking illuminate me with the wisdom of your room-temp-iq post? Is that what you thought you were gonna do? Go fuck a cup of sand.
idk dude you're the one getting histrionically angry over a cartoon for 8 year olds maybe you should take a look in the mirror
Did I ask about my own anger levels? Nope. You bumbled in, failed to read the room, and said the most smooth-brain thing you could possibly come up with. People reacted accordingly and now you're acting like they asked you for anger solutions and didn't like your prescription. Suck my entire dick forever.
damn dude you sure owned me
>damn dude you sure owned me
No shit sherlock, now bend over and spread or get the fuck out the thread
Clones were friends with the Jedi in the movies as well. Look at the Obi-Wan and Cody scenes. They were never presented as flesh droids. They expressed all kinds of emotions, and the movie deliberately portrayed them without their helmets, thus humanizing them. Lucas also stated that the Jedi wouldn't lead droids, they have to connect to life force. The Jedi wouldn't connect to an army of soulless sociopaths. There had to be genuine, mutual trust. As for order 66, Lucas said that the clones are Manchurian candidates, aka sleeping agents. Inhibitor chips just explained the precise mechanics of it, similar to midichlorians.
>The chips were necessary when they decided to make Clones individuals with free will
>free will
>individuals
Haha just like real soldiers right? No, but those would never turn on the people they were meant to protect. They would also never just blindly follow the will of their superiors. Yeah no, it must all be because a le heckin magic computer chip in their brains made them want to do a bunch of bad things.
DC has been a militarized shithole ever since 9/11. It ruined this country.
The people supporting the brain chip retcon have an 8 year olds understanding of human nature, don't bother trying to reason with them.
How do you retcon things that were never canon?
>noooo why can't I just overthrow the government when I'm mad that my reality TV show host lost this is LITERALLY FASCISM
btw jan 6 only got as far as it did because Cops are all drumpft supporters, if jan 6 was perpetrated by leftist BLM mobs they would have all got shot before they even reached the front steps
Why are you ranting about american politics?
we've needed to overthrow the government (or at least kill enough politicians to establish consequences for being corrupt) since 2010
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC
its sad that the closest thing to a march on capital hill happened because of cheeto man, but the response is a clear indication that is the weak point.
>if jan 6 was perpetrated by leftist BLM mobs they would have all got shot before they even reached the front steps
>le oppressed good boi niggas would've all been shot execution style by the KKKops before they even reached the front steps if they tried this
>Meanwhile, in reality............
Here's a picture of a whole group of black panther KANGZ waving guns and making demands inside of the Capitol building.
https://capitolweekly.net/black-panthers-armed-capitol/
>In the movies they're just conditioned flesh droids, in the cartoons they're actually friends with the Jedi who serve the Republic
You're a dimwit. The movies make sure to explain that they chose the perfect donor for a soldier that is both smart and obedient. Nothing prevents them from being friends with the Jedi in the movies, but they have an absolute allegiance towards Palpatine. Order 66 is aptly named order for a good reason, it's not a trigger.
>Way too childish
No more childish than the films. Star Wars is for 12 year olds.
All Star Wars movies are rated PG, with ROTS being PG-13 because of the immolation scene. TCW was PG-V, which is on the verge of PG-13. Lucas himself stated time and time again, that the series is exactly like the movies.
>George Lucas: The TV series is exactly like the movies, exactly. I mean, you can see it in the clip. It’s basically just the movies only with cartoon characters. It’s basically a dramatic series, there’s a lot of action, a bit of humor. It runs along at the same level. It’s unusual for an animated film, because it’s not really hardcore like say “Beowulf” and it’s not a Pixar movie, so it kind of falls in between in this funny world where “Star Wars” is, which is kind of hard-edged but not really, sort of on the verge of PG-13, flips over once in a while, but sort of the high end of PG.
>eu canon
EU was never canon.
bruh PG-13 didn't exist until 1984 and what was acceptable for PG was extremely broad.
for instance these tits would've never been in neverending story if pg-13 existed.
Clone Wars apologists think the maturity of a work is measured in how violent it is lmao
And even if we were to measure by violence, TCW is complete off-screen baby shit.
You'll never see something like this in TCW.
Someone really had a hate boner for gungans
When the EU ended and we got a glimpse of nu canon with Rebels which was TCW but much worse.
after i saw the first two movies as a kid, and even then thought it was for morons
When I like saw a tv news broadcast for the brand new Star Wars movie, the Phantom Menace, I was like 8, and it showed all these people lining up weeks in advance and some chick dressed as Leia was sword fighting with someone and they knocked her buns off and she went scrambling to pick them up,and I thought ‘These are the most pathetic people I’ve ever seen’
Phantom Menace, easy.
This
he said no sequels retard.
Most people don't even know about these films.
He knows and I know it. op asked when it died for us. Not for everyone esl.
First off, you and your little butt buddy don't matter. Second, the true answer is the christmas special.
Didn't ask troon. Next time try not to be so ignorant.
What a faggy fucking reply.
This looks kino, I should check it out. The first one wasn't too bad.
I will never get this shit. People spent the 80s and 90s hungry for more Star Wars and all George gave them was 2 Ewoks movies and an Ewoks cartoon.
Why was he so married to the Ewoks concept to only produce more of that over and over again?
Attack of the Clones. But then I actually got interested in film canon, went back to Star Wars and realized that everyone at the time was too blinded by the Hollywood blockbuster formula to understand what Lucas was trying to do. I mean, it's still a goofy and shitty movie, but I've never, ever seen a critic address the movie on the terms set by Lucas in his presenting it to the world.
And what terms are those, anon? Even Lucas was quite concerned with what his contemporaries were doing at the time when he was making the prequels
>We're never going to beat Titanic, no one can
I stopped after Attack of the Clones, not because I thought it was bad (I actually remember liking both it and Phantom Menace a lot) but because I just lost interest, so to this day I still haven't watched Revenge of the Sith or any other Star Wars media.
The phantom menace is when it died. I literally fell asleep and I was 12. I wasn't the type to nap. It was so fucking boring. The prequels sucked dick.
Jedi Rocks
oof, you made me notice I memory block it.
I still live return of the jedi but I always watch the non-remake version.
phantom menace for sure
Disney's purchase.
>Hard mode: no sequels
im a 98 babby and i remember the prequels being kind of fun, i never watched them again though.
i used to watch early seasons of TCW with my dad and brother and had a good time
when i came out of TFA my critical thinking faculties were almost formed and i remember being disappointed in the rip-off plot, and not impressed by any of the characters, but still coping/hoping it would end up better
after i saw TLJ I never watched a second of star wars ever again. that movie fucking sucked
it didnt, i enjoy most star wars shows, books, games, movies that have been made and are being made
sucks to be you
later homosexual
After I watched TFA. I knew it was dead an buried with such shit characters.
Right here. I guess not technically sequels, but I mean, there's really only a few points for a franchise to 'die' for a person.
I liked the movies but became a huge fan because of Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic. I haven't played Star Wars Jedi: Survivor yet but will probably like it. I loved the first one. I barely consider the force is female movies and shows as part of it.
FO doesn't feel attached to the Disney stuff at all, because Respawn wrote it themselves. JS is fantastic as well, my personal GOTY.
Can't be "fantastic" as both are pozzed.
hwen Lucas sold it
Yeah when the sale was announced, it was officially dead. Anybody that expected quality content to be produced became an absurdly easily identifiable pleb.
Halfway through Mando season 2.
attack of clones sucked
last jedi just sucked more
>When did Star Wars die for you?
When Leia is revealed to be Luke's sister e.g. not a valid love interest.
Fucking lame and woke.
After i met a Disney Rey and released she smelt of cabbage.
>After i met a Disney Rey and released
That was your mistake, you should not have let go of her.
When I first heard about the Holiday Special. It’s clear Lucas gave no fucks about his “precious baby” even before Disney bought the rights.
>When I first heard about the Holiday Special. It’s clear Lucas gave no fucks about his “precious baby”
Then why did he try to bury it forever?
Mando S3 honestly
Probably TCW, if only because by the time I really became a fan of Star Wars the prequels already existed. If you're asking "When did Star Wars go to shit?" the answer is obvious The Phantom Menace.
Are you implying TCW is bad or something?
The clone wars movie was fucking awful and the show didn't get good until a couple seasons in
This
See that little credit that says
>Director- Dave Filoni
There's a reason why Ahsoka is flopping.
Because nobody has a fucking clue who any of these people are. Filoni, get this through your cowboy hat:
Nobody watched Rebels.
It doesn't matter how much you insist we know and care about these characters (who are clearly at the end of their development arcs and have nowhere to go narratively) it's not gonna magically endear us to your goofy looking characters and their dumb broken droid or their ugly ass over-greebled ships. Everything feels childish and gaudy and unmistakably Filoni in the worst way possible.
It's literally the worst Star Wars film that isn't any of the sequels.
The show is mega cringe, too. No, I will not sit through 3 seasons of garbage waiting for a handful of okay episodes.
Always was.
I'd be willing to bet it killed star wars for almost as many people as the disney purchase did. There's something to integrally cringe about the Filoni stuff and he's just never been able to overcome that vibe, even in live action.
I think it's obviously better than the PT itself--or at least was after a couple seasons--but there was a sense of desperation that made it off-putting, especially back in 2008. The movie itself is also pretty bad, even by the low standards set for Star Wars by 2008.
>Why does Harrison Ford hate Star Wars?
Gee no idea.
>it's obviously better than the PT itself
I firmly believe the opposite.
The prequels have a stronger thematic core and are more artistically ambitious, but they're also dogshit. TCW is a decent-enough action-adventure cartoon with nice production values. Its biggest problem as a show is dealing with a conflict that, almost by design, is fucking boring. The Clone Wars are a boring setting and were always boring. Like the Tartakovsky miniseries it uses them as a canvas and mostly works as an excuse to explore the galaxy.
In terms of continuity it's contrived, but then so are the prequels themselves.
For me it was what you posted OP. That show came in and either simplified or fucked up so many little aspects of star wars it insane. Dave Filoni, while being a decent guy, is fundamentally incapable of coming up with anything cool, and now his weenie hut jr lifetime membership holding characters have spread out and infected every part of the franchise like a mold. I'll never forgive him and lucas for fucking up Order 66 with that dumbass brain chip garbage, or the retarded helicopter lightsabers. Literally the only reason this shit is remembered fondly is because it was the last bastion of SW before the rat took over and legit kamikazi'd the entire series. But it was already half-dead with the damage filoni was doing.
You posted it.
Although to be fair, clone wars has a lot of good episodes. It just happens that what people say are good episodes really aren't, so you have to watch everything to find them yourself because if you follow a guide it will end up being a miserable experience.
1983. Ewoks.
>Return of the Jedi
Yup. First two were kino. Third was a huge let down.
>Filonifag thinks he can hang around actual Star Wars fans
ew
>EUhomosexuals pissing and shitting
massive self-report right there
For me it died after Revenge of the Sith because I was never interested in seeing or reading Star Wars content other than the core 6 films.
There are 3.5 good star wars movies. ANH, ESB, the last half of ROTJ, and ROTS
>Y0DA2V
There are 2.1 good star wars movies. A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back, and Podracing.
I think the EU is also autistic and mostly worthless
i still had hope it could be good again at some point and was still able to get angry at each new godawful thing until this.
3d Clone Wars is the most kino SW has ever been.
Phantom Menace
When I saw the phantom menace for the first time when it was in the theatre. You guys are used to star wars sucking, it's hard to describe the bummer that we felt.
I'd honestly be interested to hear more details. I've seen some pretty crazy footage of people coming out of the theater and falling to their knees and sobbing, but I assume that's mostly autism and less a genuine reaction. I've always had a fascination in huge media failures and this is one of the biggest examples in history.
I was only 8 at the time so I couldn't understand, however I remember going to events after the movie had come out, kids would be referencing the movie and there was this pervading sense that all the adults in the room fucking hated the movie but were holding their tongues.
Before the movie came out a plot description was put online by someone. I fought with a guy online who was convinced it was real that there was no way this could be the plot, it was so stupid and boring. Turned out to be 100% real of course.
Star wars used to be some of the coolest movies back then, we thought: why don't they make more movies like this? It would be so great! Then the new ones got announced, said that technology had finally advanced so much, that lucas' Vision could finally be put on screen - exciting. And he cast Ewan MacGregor, who was a cool indie actor, which also pleased us. First trailer came out and we were extatic, it looked so dope!
From the first moment on you could tell something was off, from the opening crawl. Boredom, stupidity, jarjar and the fucking kid, it was so heavily disappointing. All the anticipation just turning into a wet fart, it was saddening. Watched it many times, trying to like it, enjoying the podrace and the light saber duel because dumb teenager, but still. Tremendous disappointment.
I had similar but not as heavy disappointments seeing star trek generations and matrix reloaded. After those 3 nothing shocked me anymore and I started to expect every movie will be shut. Took the enjoyment out of looking forward to a movie.
>star wars prequels then matrix reloaded
This is my trajectory as well, how I learned to anticipate that all sequels/prequels/etc should be considered shit until proven otherwise.
Very interesting stuff, at least to me. I appreciate the info anon
My pleasure, anon
All this is true. People act like the Plinkett reviews came up with all the criticisms of the Prequels and people started parroting it after, but in reality, he just took all the popular talking points from people online and organized it and condensed it into an entertaining video essay.
Revenge. I like TPM for the pod race and final battle scenes (I was 12). Clones was pretty boring. I liked the last 20 minutes or so of Revenge. But I was just tired of SW at that point. The ending of Revenge tied everything up in a nice bow and I was said my goodbye.
When that was announced I was displeased
When it was announced that Genndy's series was non-canon I dropped it
I learned memes from Cinemaphile and unfortunately had to watch the 2nd sequel as part of a family night
The prequels were not great movies like the OT but they still brought some cool world building/lore, it was the last thing I enjoyed, I tried watching clone wars the cartoon but it was just too childish for me, couldn't get past the first episode.
When the original battlefront 3 was canceled
The Clone Wars is pure, unfiltered George Lucas. The purest outside of THX-1138 and his experimental movies. Not pressured by expectations and limitations of practical filming. If you hate it, then you unironically don't understand a thing about Star Wars, and I can only imagine how giga filtered you would have been had he actually produced his ludo kino sequel trilogy. I have to say, that people like the OP completely and utterly deserve Disney's sequels.
Star Wars was objectively better before TCW and Disney.
You deserve Disney, like I said. You also never liked the actual Star Wars - only the idea of Star Wars in your head and some shitty fanfics that missed the point entirely. You have honestly no authority whatsoever to declare what is good or bad Star Wars - you fundamentally don't understand what makes it.
Nah, you deserve Disney because you clearly enjoy slop.
Don't tremble, EUfag. Deep down you understand, that you are no different from RLM. You got what you deserved.
Ironic, considering you support Filoni and are getting what you deserve (slop) as we speak.
>EUfag
Never read any of those shitty books, and I never will. Keep defending literal slop though.
ever consider the idea those ecelebs are only living in your head, rent free?
This guy
thinks anybody who doesn't like this
is brainwashed by ecelebs
It's actually worse.
He's saying anyone who doesn't like his shitty cartoon deserves this.
>nooo stop throwing syrofoam at me it's really irritating
lmfao what is the fanboy excuse for this? he used the force to reinforce his skeleton against being pummeled with a thousand boulders?
LMAO
You do. It's dark and gritty just like the EU. And it had Jabiim there! You should practically cream your pants. And it had Vader snapping children's necks in there! George sure would never have done it. And Obi-Wan throwing a massive pile of rocks with the force? Well, sweet baby Jesus, that's just like my favorite Genndy Tartakovsky's cartoon!!!
I don't because I like real Star Wars, unlike you.
I'm older than you are and to me, the prequels aren't "real Star Wars" because of shit that is fundamentally contradictory to my engagement with the original trilogy.
As someone who really connected to all of the Yoda stuff in ESB, I will NEVER accept midichlorians or Yoda flipping around murdering people. Sorry.
>Yoda flipping around murdering people.
I can imagine this exact moment being the breaking point for a lot of folks. Just mind-numbing levels of dumb now that I really think about it.
the prequels lost me at
>fellow precognitive space wizard, my personal precognition is detecting something wrong with this situation
>... god dammit shut the fuck up and stop being precognitive
>yeah okay good idea lets head directly into this obvious trap
which is the first couple lines in tpm, if I recall.
You've misremembered the beginning of TPM, here's how it really went:
>Master, I am sensing something bad
>what is it apprentice?
>I don't know but it's not around here and it's very elusive
>focus on the present situation my apprentice, I can sense the aliens are much more cowardly than normal for something very trivial, stay focused.
>you're misremembering
okay where's the part where he doesn't shut down the other's attempt to reach out with his feelings and feel whats happening around him?
>I can imagine this exact moment being the breaking point for a lot of folks.
It wasn't and most people loved seeing how Yoda performed as a jedi, theaters erupted in cheers, you just had to be there.
See I was there, and my theater burst out laughing in mockery. My single-perspective anecdote cancels out your single-perspective anecdote.
I bet you're older than me, as well. The OT was my first engagement with Star Wars as well and Yoda using a lightsaber and flipping around with the Force was never as world ending as you lead-poisoned geriatrics continue to make it out to be.
Don't open this webm, you might get a heart attack.
Yeah, because you're a dumb shit who has never engaged with these movies in any way beyond wikipedia plot points and inane trivia factoids.
There is NOTHING wrong with the pacifistic swamp midget who existed to show that true spiritual power transcends physical ability, nope, just turn him into a cgi monster and have him flip around as he goes to town with his little laser sword
And there's nothing wrong with said magical midget using magic to make him jump good and fight cool.
It takes NOTHING away except your stupid headcanon that your homosexual father should have beat out of you.
>wars not make one great
>Jedi uses the force for knowledge and defense, never for attack
>Prequels have tons of scenes of Yoda murdering people in indulgent displays of graphic violence
ebin
>wars not make one great
Wow I wonder when he learned that?
>Jedi uses the force for knowledge and defense, never for attack
After defending himself from Dooku and only igniting his lightsaber after Dooku.
>Prequels have tons of scenes of Yoda murdering people in indulgent displays of graphic violence
Oh, there's Yoda learning the lesson that war isn't great.
all of the idea that the prequel Jedi were LE FLAWED AND PRIDEFUL THEY COULDN'T SEE THEIR DOWNFALL xD is entirely post-facto coping by Dave Filoni in an attempt to explain why the prequel Jedi are so weird and alienating to people who aren't on the spectrum
Not the guy you're responding to, but is this supposed to be cool? Interesting? Emotional? It's a humanoid frog having a lightstick fight with what appears to be a chalk sculpture. They're both representing characters who's primary draw is their intellect and mindset, none of which are presented in this awkward looking exchange. This tells me nothing about either of these characters and it certainly doesn't make either of them look admirable or heroic.
>two great swordsman having a cool looking battle
>B-BUT WHAT DOES THIS SAY ABOUT THEM AS CHARACTERS?!?!?!?!?
You're a homosexual pseud.
That you are incapable of discerning of the themes or human elements of the OT that people connected with and your engagement with Star Wars is incredibly childish and reductive to the point you just boil it down to TWO COOL DUDES FIGHTING xD reveals more about yourself than the people you're trying to debate with lol
>IT LOOKS COOL WHY DOES IT HAVE TO MEAN OR SAY SOMETHING??
... prequelfags, everyone
>NOOOOO IT CAN'T JUST BE JUST RULE OF COOL IT HAS TO MEAN SOMETHING DEEP AND EMOTIONAAAAAAAAAL
>rule of cool
special effect without a story.
>special effect without a story
Good way to describe your birth.
I accept your concession.
brutal
I'm sure you really hurt his feelings buddy.
It would seem I've hurt yours instead.
Are you gay lovers?
No no I really mean it, you pwned him. I'm giving you a virtual high-five right now! Big ups!
Hey, thanks man 🙂
you got it buddy!
Ruthless. Truly Devastating.
holy shit
Wew lad, that's spicy
Ouch
rekt
>I am literally a (man)child just responding to bright stimuli
you are so fucking embarrassing lmao
We know you are, crying about how a flipping midget ruined your childhood.
>I know you are but what am I
Prequelfags, everyone
Not an argument
>tries to call other people manchildren for not liking the ADHD flashing lights bullshit of the prequels
>resorts to grade school deflection bullshit as a comeback
Again, prequelfags, everybody
I didn't say that at all.
Try to keep up, grandpa.
And yet he's somehow still embarrassing you
It's not cool, it's sterile and retarded.
But it's not cool. it's goofy and awkward looking, as I already said in my post. I thought that when I saw it as a kid too. You just gonna pretend I said I thought it was cool?
It's pretty cool. You're just lame.
Not an argument
Just pretending to be like you.
>two great swordsman
It's possible to have action scenes that manage to look cool and develop other facets of the story. I'm not asking for A Touch of Zen here, but most of the prequel fights don't even look cool. The prequels didn't even manage to have the best looking fights in early 2000s blockbusters.
careful, you're gonna send him on another 30 post phychotic unraveling
it really is harrowing to think the matrix came out the same year.
i like how even when he's fighting a CGI character that won't even be in the screen, he still doesn't swing the saber anywhere near it.
This is literally 99% of movie fights, they're pretty much all bad from a realism standpoint. At least that fight has some decent choreography and music, it's more like a little dance than a fight.
>wow this looks really cool I can barely tell what's going on I should look closer
>oh wow upon closer inspection it actually looks like shit and is utterly laughable.
the cool thing about using camera tricks (which requires moving the camera around) is you can create the impression of actual danger to various characters, despite it not being there. then you're only ability to complain is "oh the cut means they moved" instead of being able to look directly at the screen and see they aren't even trying to hit each other.
It's just a dance, it looks nothing like actual fighting.
Why didn't Yoda teach these sick fighting techniques to Luke? He was holding out.
Luke was doing flips though
It isn't world-ending, but it is rather retarded. The terrible throne room fight in TLJ wasn't world-ending either, but it was likewise rather retarded.
>This guy
Don't tremble, EUfag. Deep down you understand, that you are no different from RLM. You got what you deserved.
>thinks
You're already too generous. Prequelfags don't think.
Child of slop.
I hate prequelfags so much it's unreal. They're all petty, catty little queens who have an eternal victim complex and delude themselves into believing there was NEVER a controversial Star Wars movie before Disney because they were four years old when Attack of the Clones came out
>You also never liked the actual Star Wars
And you get to decide that because?
It was better before the prequels too, but here we are.
>Wow guys, see the gold lights, and all the cool mask things? This must be really important! I bet these force god things are powerful enough to wipe out the deathstar with a flick of the wrist. And they're really just a fraction of this bigger thing that has the entire force inside of it. See, it's just like marvel now, which is cool because I like marvel. And by posting a bunch of frames of this neat golden stuff, I can make this look like one of those cinematography things people used to make. That'll help me seem like I know what I'm talking about when I go on my high-minded phychotic rant about how a shitty cartoon is the essence of a franchise that had already existed for 3+ decades by the time it was made. If anyone disagrees with me I'll just tell them they don't know what star wars is!
>force gods
Didn't read further. You missed the point entirely. Many such cases with low IQ genetic deadends on this board. Someone should pray for you.
so sorry my widely sardonic generalizing mockery post didn't pinpoint the specific lore of your cringe kidshit cartoon you cat-piss-stinking warlock.
Ignorant and proud of it. Typical genetic deadend behavior. Tries to mock something being child-like, while posting in a thread about a franchise for children, while at the same time resorting to petty insults, because have nothing substantial to say. Very sad behavior.
>"because have nothing substantial to say"
See when you try to do the overly-verbose big brain thing you gotta be very sure you don't make basic grammatical mistakes like this or else it makes it really obvious you're sitting in a gamer chair with one hand buried in your fupa while typing this.
Wow, you sure got him!
>The Clone Wars is pure, unfiltered George Lucas.
No, Dave Feloni had lots of input on the series and George's involvement with each episode fluctuated quite a bit. There were a lot of episodes where he was only a consultant, such as the entire premature order 66 arc where brain chips were established, blue shadow virus wqas another one.
Nope. Order 66 story came from Lucas and the script was written by his daughter. The only stories that came not from him were the first 13 or so episodes, which were still approved and line edited by him.
>Order 66 story came from Lucas and the script was written by his daughter
So it didn't come from George Lucas then, glad we're on the same page.
It did. Every arc started with Lucas setting up a conference with the scriptwriters and episodic directors, telling the overall story and plot points. Just like ESB and ROTJ, the story came from him, but the script was written by Kasdan. You are not very bright.
The prequels are pure George Lucas, TCW is tainted by a mentally ill furry.
Incorrect.
“It’s much easier for me to just do the show I want, say, ‘Here it is, do you wish to license it or not?’ ” Mr. Lucas said. “That’s it. There’s no notes, no comments. I don’t care what your opinion is. You either put it on the air or you don’t.”
Cope. Things like Nyx Okami, Ahsoka's love interest, didn't come from George Lucas.
It's shit, but at least it's pretty
phantom menace. so many things wrong.
Never really loved the OT but I loved the prequels. Tried to watch the filioni tcw but hated it, watched TFA and never watched another star wars movie in the theatre after that. Gave up completely after the kenobi show
t. born in 97
it's so weird how prequelfags act so fucking insulted by Disney yet dickride slop like this
I just like the prequels and rewatch them every couple of years. They’re not a part of my personality or anything lmao
you know normal people don't rewatch their favorite childhood movies every "few years" right?
Most normal people are braindead npcs that just watch whats on television when they turn it on. So I’ll take that as a compliment.
>th-they're the r-retards not m-meeeee
If buff Jar Jar was real then I'd forgive Lucas all the other flaws in these movies.
when disney threw george lucas under the bus.
i watched a few minutes of the first sequel but knew that the franchise was over.
>when disney threw george lucas under the bus
When did this happen? Disney owed George absolutely nothing. He SOLD Lucasfilm. If I purchase your house from you, it is MINE. Not yours. You don't get to claim some kind of perpetual spiritual ownership over it that allows you to dictate what renovations I can and can't make to it.
But Poor Widdle George, the poor billionaire, he just couldn't make new Star Wars movies on his own despite owning the largest independent film studio on the planet, the Disney israeliteS strongarmed him out of his beloved franchise that he cared so little about he decided to cash out completely!
Fuck you, cunt. God Lucas dickriders are such inspidid little shits, they think being a passive aggressive little manbaby is sympathetic behavior
No no you don't get it, some fat loser from wisconsin cyberbullied Lucas with a youtube account that somehow brainwashed everybody so poor Lucas had no choice but to sell out. And don't think for one minute that youtuber was just pandering to opinions his audience already had! No sir, everybody loved these movies but the evil youtuber brainwashed people into hating something they previously loved and became popular by telling people the thing they liked was actually bad.
Even back in 2008 the primary compliment toward RLM was that they "put words to thoughts everybody already had about the prequels". This idea that they singlehandedly turned the world against lucas is some hardcore revisionist history, mostly propagated by RLM fans themselves who want to believe their parasocial friends have a much bigger impact on hollywood than they really do. I say this as someone who has casually watched RLM since the first plinkett reviews.
>When did this happen? Disney owed George absolutely nothing.
They had a verbal agreement to at least take something from the scripts he wrote, and he had this agreement from someone he worked with for years and trusted. Maybe to people like you honoring your words means nothing.
Gina fireing and Book of Shit!
When Disney bought it, it died. Prequels were pretty bad but they were at least honest filmmaking from someone trying to make something good. Disney slop is malicious in its intent on top of being schlock. It is designed as an attack on the fandom that kept it alive for decades.
The Sequels albeit
beginning to think prequel-fags are legitimately mentally disabled and we're bullying somebody who's actually cared for by his elderly mother.
is it really bullying if they're saying stupid shit and you're telling them why they're wrong?
Careful, you guys keep being mean and he's gonna get REAL MAD and smash his Filoni shrine
Star Wars died the moment Disney put ink to paper.
No, it was quite dead before then.
The West fell the moment Disney put ink on celluloid.
Star Wars died at different stages for different groups of people.
- For Star Wars fans, it died in the late 90's
- For George Lucas fans, it died in 2012
- For bad faith actors, it never died its doing better than ever, biggot
May 2002
may 19th, 1999
midnight premier of the phantom menace
the moment jar jar appears on screen
>tfw you win a debate and the other guy starts samefagging
>and then gets into an argument with the one guy attempting to play along with the samefagging because he knows it's not him
>tfw you can't handle the bantz and cry samefag
>Start watching The Mandalorian Season 3 with my father and brother, just like I watched previous seasons
>Nothing makes sense or has a continuation from the end of season 2
>I learn online that I have to watch three episodes of a show I don't give a shit about and was barely promoted just to know what is happening
BRAVO DISNEY
>I learn online that I have to watch three episodes of a show I don't give a shit about and was barely promoted just to know what is happening
This is standard Disney now. To know what is going on in the latest MCU movie, you need to have seen these two Disney+ series. To know what is happening in this live action show, you need to have seen this other cartoon series from a decade ago. Every new thing they make requires you to have intimate knowledge of some other show or movie, half the time totally unrelated to what you are watching now.
And the payoff isn't even good. These shows and movies all suck and are noticeably worse than things from even just 5 years ago.
The Solo movie was proof to me that Disney was never going to make a star wars anything ever worth a shit again
I personally feel like the OT and the PT ties together into a good coherent story and there is no point in watching any of the other shit. We follow anakin and lukes story and it has a decent ending where vader is redeemed and the galaxy is free or whatever. Literally didn’t need anything else after that.
It's really interesting looking into the EU before the prequels compared to after and what kinds of stories were made, what was emphasized, etc.
One thing that jumped out to me recently was how the Emperor relates to the Sith in Dark Empire.
I was a big KOTOR 1/2 fag so for me Star Wars died when they made TOR.
It really was the sequels for me. I can't say anything otherwise. Just the fact that they make everything that happened in the OT not matter at all. I don't understand how any ST fan can just shrug that off.
when my age hit double digits
In April 2004, Jim Ward, V.P. of marketing, online and global distributions at Lucasfilm, was appointed president of LucasArts.[49] Ward performed a top-to-bottom audit of LucasArts infrastructure, describing the company's state as "quite a mess."
Previous Star Wars games had been produced by external developers such as Raven Software, BioWare and Obsidian; Ward now prioritized making LucasArts' internal game development work effectively and adapt to the evolving game industry. Star Wars: Battlefront, Star Wars: Republic Commando, and Star Wars: Episode III survived cuts that closed down other in-development games and reduced staff from about 450 to 190 employees.
Ward also canceled Star Wars Rogue Squadron Trilogy which was 50% completed and it was going to be released on the Xbox in 2004.
Factor 5 was going to develop a Rogue Squadron game titled Rogue Squadron: X-Wing vs Tie Fighter for the Xbox 360 but it was canceled by LucasArts.
The rapid scaling down of internal projects at LucasArts was also reflected in its handling of games developed by external developers. During the tenure of Ward, Free Radical was contracted to produce Star Wars: Battlefront III, which had been in production for 2 years. Free Radical co-founder Steve Ellis described how working with LucasArts evolved from being "the best relationship we'd ever had with a publisher" to withholding money for 6 months and abusing the independent developer's position to withhold the full project cancellation fee—this was a major event which contributed towards Free Radical entering administration.
On September 16, 2008, Star Wars: The Force Unleashed was released to mixed reviews
https://www.ignboards.com/threads/w-t-f-zann-consortium-in-star-wars-empire-at-war-forces-of-corruption-is-laughably-overpowered.452949070/
I didn't watch the sequels. Whatever happened there I don't give a shit but I refuse to believe it was any worse than both Jar Jar Binks and spinning thats a good trick in a movie that also introduced midichlorians.
Midichlorians are the dumbest thing in star wars canon, and george made that up as well so its undeniably canon forever and that is the exact moment star wars died forever.
>I refuse to believe it was any worse than both Jar Jar Binks and spinning thats a good trick in a movie that also introduced midichlorians.
Well, there's the fact that everything Luke, Han and Leia did to bring the empire down meant absolutely nothing and Vader sacrificing himself and finding redemption is pointless because the Emperor is still alive and in power. That kind makes the other bullshit you bitched about pale in comparison.
why do you millennials hate the prequels so much?
theyre good films with a surprising amount of depth. They're essentially a modern Greek tragedy as a whole and it's really interesting to see it play out.
They're bad. I don't hate them, but I think they're bad movies.
its a greek tradgey as written by someone who's only ever read the cliffnotes of greek tragedies. all the "detail" is in service to an overarching plot where everyone in the galaxy is stupid except for the bad guy.
They are bad but seem good and soulful compared to modern slop. Zoomers just can't comprehend what a zeitgeist change they brought on.
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it's pasta you morons
>nooo you can't reply to it its been posted before
yes
No idea. My dad liked to show me 80’s movies when I was a kid so I watched the first one, but I never really got into it. In hs I went on my friend’s family beach trip and they watched the sequels in the car on the way there, but I fell asleep and all I remember is the fight at the lava place. I watched one movie from the new trilogy in theaters with a friend but I fell asleep and only remember Kylo Ren and the new orange r2-d2. Long story short, just never got into it and don’t really care
>when it died
return of the jedi
>when it died for me
book of boba fett
Disney suspending the completion of the finale episodes and going straight to Rebels apropos of nothing following the Disney purchase (then only doing it years later). What the fuck.