When the frick were they ever known for taking risks?

When the frick were they ever known for taking risks?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's just The Avengers but in space. Prove me wrong.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That's an insult to the Avengers

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          How is it taking risks when that movie is the exact same as the previous one that did a billion, just changing the setting and a few details? It is the same fricking formula.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Guardians of the Galaxy are a bunch of fricking nobodies from a smalltime comic, dumb frick. Why are shitheads like you even allowed online?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              What that changes? The plot is still a fricking copy of the first Avengers movie. It is the exact same story again. Remember, even Hawkeye and Black Widow were unknown before.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >How r the avengurs a different draw from a bunch of nobidies!?
                It wouldn't be worth explaining to a dumb moronic frick like you, because clearly you don't understand anything but finding websites and typing the most moronic shit imaginable.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                IT IS THE SAME PLOT AND DUMB FRICKING FORMULA.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You are fricking moronic. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, thought Marvel was insane for trying to do Guardians of the Galaxy and everyone thought it was going to be an extremely cringey flop. It was deemed too deep of a cut even for comic nerds. Based James Gunn turned the IP into the household name it is today.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, thought Marvel was insane for trying to do Guardians of the Galaxy
              No.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yes. You are dumb as shit. Were you even born when that movie came out? Jesus christ.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Clearly you’re a young zoomer who drank r*ddit kool aid. Many if not all box office analysts and film news sites at the time predicted the movie would be successful, now granted the film actually ended up doing better than their predictions, but no one honestly thought the movie was gonna be an insane flop like how MCU fanboys try to spin it in order to prop up the film and gunn.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >r*ddit
                Oh no, dont dare say LE BAD WORD. homosexual

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                What is this revisionist history? Am I being trolled? You sound deeply moronic.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >ugh like good guys beat bad guys that is the same Male, Pale & Stale formula I can't even right now

            morons like you brought us Rian Johnson.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Setting something away from earth is different enough to be considered a risk in this case

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >having a diverse team of heroes is avengers

        apart from literally everything else being different, sure...

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Group of heroes that initially dislike and distrust each other before resolving their differences and coming together as a team to stop the bad guy from acquiring and using some magical stones. In between there is a lot of banting, gags, and quips.

          They're the same fricking movie.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            dislike and distrust are maybe 1% of both movies, it's barely in either and even when it is it comes and goes in waves randomly. you don't understand those movies if you think that's what they are.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >film about literally whos led by the fat guy from parks and rec and the zesty wrestler
        >not a risk
        even regular comic book fans didn't know who the guardians were before this film, let alone normies

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Comic book fans absolutely knew who the Guardians of the Galaxy were. They kept pestering everyone about why Nova wasn't in the movies throughout all these years.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Comic book fans are a pretty small portion of the moviegoing public, even for these movies

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          My dad knew who the Guardians were and he was born in '65.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Disney wanted every film to be a team-up film after The Avengers success.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Avengers didn't have a talking Raccoon or Tree now did they?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The Avengers had a talking tree

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Certainly gives me wood, if you know what I'm talking about. My penis. This is a reference to my erect penis, which becames hard when I see Brie Larson, for I have a biological urge to stick said penis in her butthole

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I'm glad you specified her butthole, anon. I was a little worried there for a moment

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They were about as unknown as the Eternals. It was quite the risk risk

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >if you make a movie about an unknown character, it's a risk!
          >literally nothing else matters!
          >it's a risk if the character is unknown! that's the literal definition of "risk!"

          ITT: brainlets repeat the same fricking thing over and over in 200 different posts

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They assraped their storyline for shock value in Infinity War. GG3 felt awkward.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      FPBP
      Not a single soul knew who or wtf guardians of the galaxy were before this movie

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That's what happens in movies you moron. No one knows of any character when you start watching a movie, you learn who they are during the run time.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >be Marvel
        >release Iron Man in 2008 (the only actual risk they took)
        >be in the top 10 highest grossing film of that year with $585 million
        >follow it up with The Incredible Hulk, Iron Man 2, Thor, Captain America. All financial success
        >release Avengers 1
        >make $1.5 billion
        >a monumental success both financially and critically
        >by now the Marvel Cinematic Universe is a household name and a money print
        >people will watch anything you make
        >release Iron Man 3 and make another billy easy
        >release Thor 2 and Captain America 2
        >2014, six years after the first Iron Man, release GOTG
        >by now people watch your movies just because it’s Marvel
        >you’ve already proven yourself time and time again as money makers
        >yet for some reason you have morons saying GOTG was a risk of any kind
        >as if it wouldn’t make money
        >as if it wouldn’t at least be reasonably well received
        >10 years later this meme is still going
        In short, you’re moronic and no one with brains thought GOTG was a risk.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          all they needed for GOTG to be a success was to print Marvel on it and show a trailer with a talking racoon honestly. At that time? How could that fail?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You're saying that now, and in retrospect it seems clear. But before it came out projections were negative. Everyone was like "Sci fi comedies always flop"

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              its not a sci-fi comedy though its a sci-fi movie with the marvel style of comedy in it which was incredibly popular at the time.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              GOTG wasn’t a sci fi comedy.
              It was a “Marvel Movie”. They had a formula and a brand established. It’s no more sci fi than iron man and no more a comedy than any of their other movies.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Not to mention that:

                Guardians of the Galaxy 1 is an exact copy of Joss Whedon's The Avengers. Exact fricking formula.
                The movie had more lore building relating the magical stones shown in The Avengers.
                Thanos appeared for the first time after being teased at the end of The Avengers.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >it had superheroes and quips therefore it was the same movie!
                that's like saying all action movies are exact copies because they all have the stoic action hero beat up bad guys and save the day. try to look past the surface, jesus christ.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah I have zero clue why the dipshits on here perpetuate the notion that Marvel took any risk with GOTG. They don’t take risks, ever. See

          Werewolf by night was based but I won't give the MCU credit for taking a risk there. If they actually trusted the vision of it and wanted to gamble, they would make it an actual film. Same goes to a punisher or moon knight movie. But they didn't because it doesn't fit their generic sci fi quipfest formula. Instead it's sent to disney+ as short in a pile of trash to be forgotten.

          .

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They hated him for he spoke the truth.

          There's also the fact that The Avengers clearly has a tease for something bigger. Even the most normie of normies knew that this was all going to be a part of a series or something that would eventually pay off in a finale. A big selling point straight off the bat for GOTG was that it was directly tying into and introducing story-beats that would be directly linked to that big finale.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          How the frick was iron man a risk. Iron man had his own cartoon, he was in all the video games, and the civil war comic. wtf are you talking about moron

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I hate Zoomzooms so much, it makes me retch

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Same. They're all so fricking moronic.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They started working on GOTG before Avengers came out though. So they didn't know they had a sure thing yet. Also, the incredible hulk barely made any money, so they didn't know they could print money yet at that point.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Gunn wasn’t even hired to write or direct the film until September of 2012, and The Avengers came out in April of 2012. The movie cross 1 billion dollars in less than a month after release.
            Marvel was more than aware of how good their brand power was by then. GOTG was absolutely not a risk. Especially considering

            They hated him for he spoke the truth.

            There's also the fact that The Avengers clearly has a tease for something bigger. Even the most normie of normies knew that this was all going to be a part of a series or something that would eventually pay off in a finale. A big selling point straight off the bat for GOTG was that it was directly tying into and introducing story-beats that would be directly linked to that big finale.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Even Iron man had the x-men movies to test the waters before. They knew that people would be willing to watch superheroes they might just know from Saturday morning cartoons and hearsay.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Eternals' failure proves that GOTG was a risk

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Eternals was released after the lockdowns and endgame where people started to get tired of superhero movies. GOTG was released at a time when people were starving for them and the MCU was considered god tier. See the difference?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              No, not even a little bit. I think you're just stupid, anon.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            eternals was incredibly shitty and boring, THAT made it a risk. you act as if you can predict whether movies do well or fail based on how many people know the characters involved. that's autistic.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          perfect post. and that's how they go about conditioning people and as you've seen with the seethe in the replies.... very true

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            quit samegayging

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          one of the dumbest posts in Cinemaphile history

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Kys zoomie

            Based. This anon

            This. Even well after the avengers, marvel studios was still considered more of an underdog indie studio if anything that nobody honestly trusted, and GOTG was seen as this crazy fricked up movie that absolutely had no hype until it came out.

            was actually right on the dot though.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Kys zoomie

              moron. GOTG was absolutely a risk, ESPECIALLY in 2014.

              This. Even well after the avengers, marvel studios was still considered more of an underdog indie studio if anything that nobody honestly trusted, and GOTG was seen as this crazy fricked up movie that absolutely had no hype until it came out.

              Were they in a coma in 2014? On drugs? Living in a cave somewhere?

              Can you stop samegayging so hard?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Kys zoomie

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Incredible Hulk came out one month after Iron Man and flopped.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >b-but they were unknown!!
        Okay. So?
        That’s why people would show up to watch them.
        >oh marvel just came out with another superhero movie we should check it out
        >oh that was really good now I know and like these characters
        >I’ll tell people I know about it
        Wow what a risk
        People didn’t know who John Wick was before either, and now there’s 4 fricking movies of that slop

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Keanu Reeves puts asses in seats. If John Wick had been some no name theater kid, we never would have seen a sequel.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Keanu didn't put in any asses anywhere for Matrix Regurgitation.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          There's 4 movies cause everyone knows who John Wick is after the first one. The first one had a budget of like 20 mil. God damn people on this board are fricking moronic.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >There's 4 movies cause everyone knows who John Wick
            That’s the point dumbass. After you watch a movie about a character you haven’t heard of before, you then get acquainted with that character. And if you like them, you’ll watch their next movie.
            The excuse of
            >no one even knew who they were
            Is moot.

            Keanu Reeves puts asses in seats. If John Wick had been some no name theater kid, we never would have seen a sequel.

            Keanu Reeves puts asses in seats
            The movie had a small budget and made back 80 million. It was hardly a financial success

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Legit you are so lost you don't even know what you're talking about. You just admitted that John Wick had a small budget. So there's no risk. Are you fricking moronic? What movies was Star Lord in before GOTG, a $200 million budget movie?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Learn to read, moron. I referenced John Wick as a character LITERALLY no one knew about (because he wasn’t based on an existing character like GOTG), that still spun off a successful franchise. I wasn’t referencing how successful the first movie was, I was referencing that not knowing who the character is doesn’t mean a movie can’t do well. People now know who he is, and all he had were movies. GOTG had comics, tv shows, and the brand of Disney and Marvel.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      So in 16 years they took exactly 1 risk?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        having a cinematic universe itself was a fricking huge risk

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Disney bet on sóy and won

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Why would you save an image like that?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          To put MCUcks in their place. Like I just did with you.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/KwN0taR.png

      When the frick were they ever known for taking risks?

      >When the frick were they ever known for taking risks?

      Nobody knew a thing about Iron Man except for nerds before this movie. People forget that because he's become super A-list. But that's because of those movies. It's because of RDJ that your mom knows who Iron Man is.

      One of the things that was laughable about the reaction to Iron Man 3 was people pretending they ruined the Mandarin. "He was Iron Man's Joker!!!". Instead of a lame villain of a previously lame hero.

      As for the headline, I think it just means that they're going for presold characters that people are excited about like
      >Fantastic Four
      >Spider-Man
      >X-Men
      >Doctor Strange
      >Avengers
      Instead of continuing to do nobodies like
      >Eternals
      >Shang Chi
      >Ant-Man
      >Captain Marvel
      which only exist because they figured they could bank off their reputation and because Disney insisted on quantity.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Nobody has ever been excited for fantastic four. The fact that they still continue to try to make fantastic four happen after so many flops is nothing short of astonishing.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Pixar made a ton of money off the Incredibles, the issue with the FOXtastic Four is that the actors have little chemistry and the villains are garbage.
          That has doomed a lot of superhero movies besides the Fantastic Four.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > the issue with the FOXtastic Four is that the actors have little chemistry and the villains are garbage.
            The reason that the actors never have any onscreen chemistry, is because the characters are inherently tepid personality voids at their core, regardless of who plays them. Even if they weren't being compared to the characters and team dynamics of the avengers and guardians, they'd be a forgettable snoozefest.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The problem with every single Fantastic Four movie is that the studio has always been the driving creative force. Every single time. There's never been a Fantastic Four where they got someone interesting to make it or it wasn't trying to hold on to rights or sell something bigger. The MCU is doing the same thing. Some Disney+ hack is "Directing" it.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No one cares about Fantastic Four. They're a plot device to include Dr.Doom and Galactus in MCU. FF themselves are boring shitters.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Susan Storm needs to be hot so we get some good scenes when she decides to have sex with everyone that isn't her husband.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              We already know a Hispanic is cast as Reed. Sue is going to be black and overweight, guaranteed.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I don't think anyone even cares about the rest of the cast with Reed as a Hispanic. Movie is dead on arrival just like the previous failed FF reboot with its black Johnny Storm

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I like Pedro Pascal, but if Marvel is turning over a new leaf and hoping for the return of the financial juggernaut that was the MCU, they need to start with an as accurate as possible Fantastic 4. I can MAYBE see casting Ben as black, if only because he'll be under so much make-up it won't matter.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I don't think anyone even cares about the rest of the cast with Reed as a Hispanic. Movie is dead on arrival just like the previous failed FF reboot with its black Johnny Storm

                I like Pedro Pascal, but if Marvel is turning over a new leaf and hoping for the return of the financial juggernaut that was the MCU, they need to start with an as accurate as possible Fantastic 4. I can MAYBE see casting Ben as black, if only because he'll be under so much make-up it won't matter.

                They announced it was Vanessa Kirby a while ago, you are getting mad about nothing as usual.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I didn't know that. All right.
                She's... not hideous? Jessica Alba was worlds better.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Kirby is good but there's no recovering from Señor Fantástico

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        People knew about Tony because
        >He appear in Spiderman 90s series
        >His alcoholic story is one of the 70/80s were dark example people use
        >Civil War
        Ironically both civil war and the movies ruined Ironman in the comics.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I will indulge you
        Explain how they DIDNT ruin mandarin

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You could also throw in Antman and Doctor Strange. Most people did not know who either of these characters are until their respective movies.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >people say uhh actually guardians of the galaxy is WAY better than other marvel movies and actually worth watching
      >watch it
      >it's literally exactly the same soulless pajeet cgi quipfest as all the others

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, but it has a cute 'coon. Where is the cute 'coon in Eternals and Marvels?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      > Iron Man (RDJ was a,risk, character was a B lister)
      > Captain America (making it a period movie was a bold, risky move)
      > Guardians of the Galaxy (obscure characters, including a talking raccoon)
      > WandaVision (surreal concept, the two leads are obscure secondary characters)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      cute animal people is always a safe bet

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      GotG was a D-list franchise but it also came out at the apex of capeshit and had very marketable mascot characters. If Eternals came out during the Infinity Saga it probably would have put more asses in the seats. You build goodwill with the audience so your risks pay off more later. Once goodwill is burned people stop caring.

      It wasn't just that Eternals is a nothing franchise, but that it had to follow up other flops like Black Widow.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >It wasn't just that Eternals is a nothing franchise
        The franchise had a lot of potential as an ongoing millennia spanning blood feud between Eternals and Deviants, but then someone had the bright idea to make Deviants mindless one off monsters and make a character study out of fricking immortal robots.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No comicbook tier women no watch

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >No comicbook tier women no watch
      the mcu format would only last less than 10 years, because they won the audience with phase 1 and 2 which followed the comics books, then they decided to come up with the woke comics books created by feige which was a sales failure and still is today, it failed in the comics they doubled down and now they see the same failure in theaters

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >guess which of these movies
        Isn't that Taylor Swift concert also a movie? That's 2 movies people saw instead of Captain Dykel.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You got it, good job anon.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's painfully obvious that the majority of women want female movie leads to be attractive too, only loud and ugly feminist activists disagree and for some reason Hollywood listens to them and keeps flopping. Look at the most popular franchises for women like Twilight, The Hunger Games, even Downton Abbey, all have beautiful female leads with feminine qualities.
        Women even love vapid prostitutes like the Kardashians, it's not men spending billions on their clothes and makeup brands.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          > the majority of women want female movie leads to be attractive too
          Literally this. Sailor Moon is popular among men and women because it has a strong AND feminine cast. There are lesbians and trannies in here too, so very inclusive. Really a diverse series (especially for being the 90's). If you go on Reddit there are never posts like "ugh why are they showing so much skin" or "ugh why does sailor moon have a love interest." It's "who is the strongest female warrior" or "how has Sailor Moon given you the confidence to be powerful and feminine at the same time." Also waifu posting.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >tranime homosexual
            >opinion discarded

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              He's literally right though. Girls love this shit.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Replace Sailor Moon with Xena, OG Charlie´s Angels or Buffy and

              > the majority of women want female movie leads to be attractive too
              Literally this. Sailor Moon is popular among men and women because it has a strong AND feminine cast. There are lesbians and trannies in here too, so very inclusive. Really a diverse series (especially for being the 90's). If you go on Reddit there are never posts like "ugh why are they showing so much skin" or "ugh why does sailor moon have a love interest." It's "who is the strongest female warrior" or "how has Sailor Moon given you the confidence to be powerful and feminine at the same time." Also waifu posting.

              still have a good point.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Sailor moon is classic homosexual this is an anime website and no amount of election tourist revisionist posting will change the fact that this is a website for weebs

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            jupiter best girl
            she also has the biggest breasts

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Brie isn't exactly a hideous monstrosity. That's not the problem and neither is her costume (Jennifer Lawrence wears something with similar coverage in Hunger Games). It's just that women simply do not care that much for comic book movies. They'll see Avengers with their boyfriend, but their boyfriend is probably not super interested in a girl power super hero movie either, so they end up skipping this one. There's simply no audience for it.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Not that a on but I agree

            The obvious follow up question is why did the first captain Marvel work? Is it as simple as right place right time where it came out at the high point for superhero movies? Or were there other factors?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              It was wedged between the biggest MCU movies and they made it seem like you had to see it to get the complete picture going into Endgame. I would not say it worked creatively though; even the critics were kind of lukewarm about it and it sucking had a lot to do with people not going to see The Marvels.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              It literally came out between infinity war and endgame. Marvel had 3 slots per year in their classic release schedule, this was in the very next slot after infinity war, which was to the MCU what Avengers 1 was to it previously.
              They could've released Eternals or Black Widow in that slot and they also would've been successful

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              muh female, it's the hillary clinton "vote me for being a woman" to black panther's "vote me for being black" obama. the simile works perfectly.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, but a big scene in the films and an even bigger part of the books was Katniss' gowns for the lead up to the games. Her dressmaker was an important figure for her character. Women love the idea of getting all dolled up and putting on expensive gowns for a big event.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Brie is not ugly, but her Captain Marvel character has no femininity at all, and not just because of her outfit. The Hunger Games movies have a prominent romantic element, and Katniss, while capable in combat, has emotional vulnerability that makes her more relatable to women.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >It's just that women simply do not care that much for comic book movies
            they cared enough to give Aquaman a billion cause of Momoa

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Look at the most popular franchises for women like Twilight, The Hunger Games, even Downton Abbey, all have beautiful female leads with feminine qualities.
          Beautiful, not hot. They want beautiful female protagonist, but they don't want hot female protagonists or secondary characters or anything.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Women went to watch the first Captain Marvel. Dont do revisionism

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Did they? Marvel fans (predominantly male) went and saw it to prepare for end game. Some brought their gfs.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          willing to bet its female demographic wasnt any higher than comparable male-lead movies.

          Making movies for females is actually pretty easy, you need a lead that they can identify with (which means NOT a strong independent girlboss, women tend to be way to insecure from constantly bullying each other for that) who meets 2 dashing guys she gets into a "will they wont they" relationship with.
          Then they do some adventuring where the female finds her inner strength, the guy she ends up with proves his willingness to die for her and they live happy ever after.

          Its the female version of the heroes journey and basically a license to print money if done right. The worst you can do to attract female interest is having a female lead who is a Mary Sue and has no romance going on.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          because it was riding off the hype of the rest of the MCU, not because anybody actually gave a shit. the hype is dead and now you see the results.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Something people bring up with Captain marvel is that Disney “bought” tickets to artificially inflate the positive reception. I don’t know how true this is, but I will mention a little known fact.
          Captain Marvel’s production was sponsored by the US Air Force. I was in the Air Force when it was released, and our leadership gave us the choice to go see the movie or work a regular duty day (mine at the time was 12 hours, so obviously I went to see the movie). Our whole unit was covered to go (around 200 people). I know for a fact we weren’t the only unit who got to go. Now were tickets paid for by the USAF, or Disney, or just comped entirely due to sponsorship? That I can’t tell. But take this information how you want to.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Do you think Captain Marvel compelled anybody to join the Air Force?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Most definitely not considering the USAF is hemorrhaging personnel and has missed recruiting marks for the past couple years, but globohomosexual doesn’t care.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Women went to watch the first Captain Marvel. Dont do revisionism
          Still the majority of the audience was Male. It wasn't like Wonder Woman were the female audience surpassed the male audience.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The most powerful weapons against narcissists, (gays, women, and trannies) is....

        ....not paying attention or giving them a cent.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You know what's funny, Brie desperately has been trying to clean the public perception of herself she herself had a hand creating when she demanded Captain Marvel to be as un-sexy as possible. I think she wants out of the capeshit game altogether. I wonder how many flicks she has left in her contract with Disney.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >when she demanded Captain Marvel to be as un-sexy as possible. I
          I doubt it given the rest of them were mostly dressed like nuns too

          Put em in burquas, that's daring

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No negress Iron Woman? No black Cap?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Black cap is unfortunately probably happening still despite the fact it should be given the batgirl treatment, Ironheart still has a chance of being cancelled however, if they were smart they’d incorporate whatever plot points would be supposed to be in that show into Armor Wars

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    they really gave Ant Man 3 to the guy who was a writer for season 4 of Rick and Morty and Jimmy Kimmel
    Why are the people who control our world at every level so fricking stupid?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      they're ubersocial. probably only got the role because he could make feige laugh in an interview or some other gay shit.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Producers a 9/10 complete morons who know nothing about film or what people like. They basically look at what was succesful then get a bunch of weird ass data samples taken and make their decisions based off that. The MCU formular works ok just keep doing it. Our data shows that people really like the Humor of the MCU films lets hire someone who comedy writing background who also wrote for Scifi Shows and we are guaranteed to have a hit.

      That is how their thinking works. Now me and you can easily see the faults with all of that but they don't. Their job is purely to make something succesful based on the trends and info they have because when it bombs they have a defense of "we didn't expect this to be shit here's all of our supporting market data that says this should have worked"

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        To be fair to the producers, what they were doing worked extremely well for like a decade and a half.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Movies with women leads in comic book stories are risks, unless they are hot and in their leotards, bodysuits or bikinis.
    Yes, Disney is so stupid that they need to lose over two billion dollars to realuze this fact.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The only risks they've taken has been trying to succeed where the comics failed in making shitty race and gender swapped versions of characters and hoping that they'd become popular enough to phase out the "ebil wacist yt" original versions.
    Maybe it's code for pulling back on the political propaganda but I seriously doubt it.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Get woke go broke

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    literally no one cares about this shit, if you even give a single frick about these mass produced piles of filth in film form you should unironically off yourself irl

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >movie 3 and movie 4
    >risks

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    By not having Carol's real costume.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Damn if only her face wasnt so old

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      wow, that alone would have made the movie worth watching

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      And someone with a non-stik frame filling it out.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Nothing wrong with Carol's recent costume provided they keep it simple/skintight like the comics, keep the sash, and get someone with a reasonable build to fill it out.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The suit is ugly as shit. Quit wait for the decline of capeshit.
          Shit needs to go back to being irrelevant.

        • 1 month ago
          GritchkaBogdanoff

          >tumblr_oqn06eJ60e1wqwqb8o1_500.jpg
          >homosexual comment
          true to form

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Nothing wrong with Carol's recent costume
          AYY LMAO from a confident superheroine with an athlete's body to a figure who is ashamed to show her skeletal body, do you think women will go to see this?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Look like shit

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >We want to take fewer risks
    >So here, we hope you enjoy Blacktain America and the Fantastic Spic
    Are they moronic?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No, they're listening to people who don't like the medium at all now.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Is this a rhetoric question? This one is

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    they've been nailing it with the hits recently

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What recent hits? GotG3? That guy works for the competition now

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        i was being sarcastic my good sir

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why no ant man 4? All of the capeshit fans I know love ant man, and the first 2 made plenty of money. The impression I got was that 3 was just a shitshow and leaks ruined it, plus coming out during serious superhero fatigue

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They'll say anything to keep the blame away from minority casting for as long as they can hold out

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      ant-man is literally just "generic marvel quipster", he is so boring that they needed to make his third movie a complete moron clusterfrick to make up for it. marvel movies aren't meant to be pure comedies so it didn't work at all and they don't want to do anything else with ant-man because that would be the risk-taking (and "Actually good movie") they avoided back when they had the first movie's script rewritten ten times to remove all the seriousness.

      the movies are just comedies because they think that's what "Avoiding risk" means, and they suck because they're shitty attempts at comedy movies. they are incapable of self-reflection so they decide to give up completely and learn nothing.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Paul Rudd is charismatic, and Ant Man's powers are visually fun.
        I never got this meme that Ant Man was "the bad Marvel movie", as opposed to like Captain America. All of the Captain America movies are pretty mid, and people love those for some reason.
        >his super power is a shield
        Wow, that's gay!

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          you're admitting that there's literally nothing about the character besides "lol quippy generic marvel hero has funny superpower", which is why his films suck

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Third movie is a mess but for real, they should have sacked Peyton Reed a long ago, he has good ideas and knows his comics but lacks talent as director.

          [...]
          [...]
          Ant-Man compared to every other hero in the MCU back then was the everyman, the underdog normal guy that life never gives a break and has to balance being a hero with being a father. The ex-con single father superhero is 100% the heart of the character and that's proven by every scene he shared with his daughter Cassie in the first two movies and frick, even in Endgame. Quantumania botched their dynamic by creating artificial conflict between them and not properly exploring the clusterfrick that would be having your "normal life" get turned upside down by the a cosmic event that was Thanos snap and how it changed the relationship between them, their conflict is a footnote. All because SHIT GUYS KANG IS HERE.

          "Grows big and small" is not a relatable superpower, even if Scott himself might be relatable. The difference between Ant-Man and Captain America is, aside from 40 years of subversive character treatment of Ant-Man, is that Captain America is a soldier, a warrior, an icon. His costume is cooler and his abilities are more down-to-earth, even if they're unrealistic and unattainable. It's the same reason why Batman is better received than most other superheroes.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Third movie is a mess but for real, they should have sacked Peyton Reed a long ago, he has good ideas and knows his comics but lacks talent as director.

      ant-man is literally just "generic marvel quipster", he is so boring that they needed to make his third movie a complete moron clusterfrick to make up for it. marvel movies aren't meant to be pure comedies so it didn't work at all and they don't want to do anything else with ant-man because that would be the risk-taking (and "Actually good movie") they avoided back when they had the first movie's script rewritten ten times to remove all the seriousness.

      the movies are just comedies because they think that's what "Avoiding risk" means, and they suck because they're shitty attempts at comedy movies. they are incapable of self-reflection so they decide to give up completely and learn nothing.

      you're admitting that there's literally nothing about the character besides "lol quippy generic marvel hero has funny superpower", which is why his films suck

      Ant-Man compared to every other hero in the MCU back then was the everyman, the underdog normal guy that life never gives a break and has to balance being a hero with being a father. The ex-con single father superhero is 100% the heart of the character and that's proven by every scene he shared with his daughter Cassie in the first two movies and frick, even in Endgame. Quantumania botched their dynamic by creating artificial conflict between them and not properly exploring the clusterfrick that would be having your "normal life" get turned upside down by the a cosmic event that was Thanos snap and how it changed the relationship between them, their conflict is a footnote. All because SHIT GUYS KANG IS HERE.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Bob Iger completely ruined Quantumania even more than it already was by making the ending meaningless with Kang beaten at no cost at all.

      The Rick & Morty writers, Waldron, Gao, and Loveness, are by far the worst writers at Marvel, incompetent at every level.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Because they started out with Ant-Man's replacement and skipped all the stuff with Hank and Janet.
      >Hank and Janet founding the Avengers
      >Hank creating Ultron
      >Hank going crazy and becoming the Yellowjacket
      >Janet leading the Avengers.
      All got skipped over in favour of starting the Ant-Man series off with Scott Lang. It'd be like if the first Spider-Man movie was a Miles Morales movie, and then they exclusively focused on Miles for all future movies.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Blame Edgar Wright because he's the one that wanted to make his own version of Scott's origin story

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I still blame Marvel. They could've rejected Edgar Wright's idea from the beginning, instead they kicked him out after Ant-Man was in the early stages of production.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It's complicated because Wright approached them way back before phase 1 even started and liked his pitch, Marvel agreed to not use any Ant-Man related character because of his film, hence why Wasp appears in some drafts of the first Avengers movie but was cut. By the time they get to work together there are already two Avengers movies, the MCU is in full swing and Marvel was fully owned by Disney. Wright was dealing with a different company at that point and he gets out a few months before they start filming, when the entire cast was already set, a bunch of sets were probably being made and chances are that the pre-viz team was already working on the CGI heavy scenes.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >People say our movies are getting stupid and boring
    >I know! Let's make them MORE boring!

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They built their studio largely on C-list superheroes that no one else wanted to license. I guess that's a risk.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Too fricking late. All the characters people liked are gone, either because they got written off, were character assassinated, or the actor retired from the MCU.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Tony and Steve are gone. Natasha is gone.RDJ winning an Oscar means he is unlikely to return. Boseman's sad death was a much bigger blow than we first thought; the only actor/character who could lead the MCU is gone.

      They still had some popular characters like Thor and Wanda, but they decided to completely destroy them by turning them into moronic jokes, because they thought their "diverse" new characters could easily replace them.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Boseman's sad death
        >Boseman knows he dying
        >He tells Marvel not to kill his character cause he thinks Black Panther is cool and he should be recast
        >Marvel has Black Panther die off screen form superhero aids instead of a heroic last stand
        >his concentration camp survivor of a little nigress becomes the new Panther

        Seems like Marvel hated Bosemann as much as somebody from /misc/

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >because they thought their "diverse" new characters could easily replace
        Literally the rise and fall of All-New Marvel all over again

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Ms. Marvel show flops
          >The Marvels flops
          Will her next flop be enough to kill the MCU

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Apparently she's going to be one of the lead actors in an upcoming Young Avengers movies, so very probably

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    take a male IP and change it to a female woke IP

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >zesty black boi pretending he likes women
      Good one KEK

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >casting women and shitskins
    >taking risks
    Choose two.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They keep saying shit like they'll "focus on quality" and "stop taking risks" but they still refuse to unwoke their movies. So nothing will change.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Black Panther made something like $1.2B. The public isn't as sensitive to "woke" or "anti-woke" politics when deciding what flick they want to spend their $12 on.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Black Panther made something like $1.2B
        Because it tied into Infinity War, and Chadwick Boseman was a charismatic actor. The sequel didn't do nearly as well because it lacked both those things.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I've only seen a couple of these movies the whole way through but it's obvious they should have regrouped and planned better before going into whatever their next set up was after the Thanos dude
    Seems like a massive disjointed unfollowable mess even for the funko-pop obsessives

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Put em in burquas, that's daring

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Her face looks like ScarJo in the first pic comparison.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I do like that their were reports of Selma hayake asking why her costume was so boring and didn’t show off her curves more

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's painfully obvious that the majority of women want female movie leads to be attractive too, only loud and ugly feminist activists disagree and for some reason Hollywood listens to them and keeps flopping. Look at the most popular franchises for women like Twilight, The Hunger Games, even Downton Abbey, all have beautiful female leads with feminine qualities.
      Women even love vapid prostitutes like the Kardashians, it's not men spending billions on their clothes and makeup brands.

      >No comicbook tier women no watch
      the mcu format would only last less than 10 years, because they won the audience with phase 1 and 2 which followed the comics books, then they decided to come up with the woke comics books created by feige which was a sales failure and still is today, it failed in the comics they doubled down and now they see the same failure in theaters

      The issue is that a lot of the women leading the charge for de-sexualizing female heroes represent a minority of women; the average man likes how sexy female characters look and the average woman doesn't watch capeshit at nearly the rate that men do so they also don't care. They're not looking for heavy representation in comic movies, they're looking for representation in romance and drama movies.

      [...]
      >When the frick were they ever known for taking risks?

      Nobody knew a thing about Iron Man except for nerds before this movie. People forget that because he's become super A-list. But that's because of those movies. It's because of RDJ that your mom knows who Iron Man is.

      One of the things that was laughable about the reaction to Iron Man 3 was people pretending they ruined the Mandarin. "He was Iron Man's Joker!!!". Instead of a lame villain of a previously lame hero.

      As for the headline, I think it just means that they're going for presold characters that people are excited about like
      >Fantastic Four
      >Spider-Man
      >X-Men
      >Doctor Strange
      >Avengers
      Instead of continuing to do nobodies like
      >Eternals
      >Shang Chi
      >Ant-Man
      >Captain Marvel
      which only exist because they figured they could bank off their reputation and because Disney insisted on quantity.

      No one gives a frick about the Fantastic Four, every single movie they've had was cringe and a critical and financial failure.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    RACIST SEXIST

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    With the exception of phase 1, the MCU has never took risks kek. I’d hate to their future films.
    >inb4 MUH GUARDIANS
    Yes no one knew who they were but the movie was released when the superhero genre was at its peak and people thought marvel studios could do no wrong, Fiege literally could’ve released a film of his dog shitting and it would still have been a guaranteed box office success and a critical darling, plus the film was the same as the other quippy shit that was released before and after.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >superhero genre was at its peak and people thought marvel studios could do no wrong,
      1. The guardians aren't even remotely superheroes
      2. None of their adventures even take place on MCU Earth
      3. They don't overlap in the slightest with the MCU til Infinity War.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        1. I agree it’s less superheroish aesthetically but that’s beside the point, the reality is that the movie had the marvel studios logo on it, was marketed as a superhero movie and people bought without question.
        2. Doesn’t matter
        3. Doesn’t matter
        After the avengers the MCU was the fricking golden child and people were willing to buy anything from them without question. GOTG would be a risk if it was released around the time of iron man, not when you release it when superheroes were fricking zeitgeist lmao. To act like what I stated wasn’t the case would be disingenuous or you’re just too young to remember.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Ok but it was a Marvel movie at the peak of the Marvel super hero genre. It was obviously made using the same formula and marketed to the same audience. Everyone went and saw it because of this. Normies did not know or care about anything you posted. Hell, the movies weren't even overlapping much more than the occasional post-credits stinger back then.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Hell, the movies weren't even overlapping much more than the occasional post-credits stinger back then.
          This is funny considering that a lot of hardcore marvel fans think the movies are flopping is because they’re not connected enough like before, when there is honestly more of a clear buildup to kang and the multiverse than there ever was for thanos and the stones. Reality is that people are tired of these movies, and they’re simply shit.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They recognise that all the girl boss slop they pushed out were risky propositions from the get-go.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    When did you guys get sick and tired of capeshit? For me, it was the first Captain America movie. I remember seeing it in theaters in 3D (which was all the rage at the time) and it just did nothing for me. Haven't seen a Marvel flick since with the exception of one Spiderman movie.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The first Iron Man movie. Complete dogshit and everything since has been worse.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ant man, guardians of the Galaxy, doctor strange, black panther

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    taking risks is catering to troons and not the fans
    guaranteed hits means they would stick to the source material and cast hot women

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Werewolf by Night was fun, campy, and one of the best things Marvel has put out in the sea of shit
    >never talked about on /tv once
    Proof that this entire board is full of homosexual shills and zoomers social media addicts who don't watch tv.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      never heard of it. not sure how it's our fault disney spends billions advertising flops while they're apparently making good things which go unadvertised

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Werewolf by night was based but I won't give the MCU credit for taking a risk there. If they actually trusted the vision of it and wanted to gamble, they would make it an actual film. Same goes to a punisher or moon knight movie. But they didn't because it doesn't fit their generic sci fi quipfest formula. Instead it's sent to disney+ as short in a pile of trash to be forgotten.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Werewolf by Night was also a flop.

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The MCU was built on risk, but well-written risk with audience enjoyment in mind. The franchise needs someone with vision at its helm, but at least they know better than to keep leaning into the woke garbage.

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Good.

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    "risks" meaning shit like captain marvel and dumb multiverse crap. gimme a movie where spider man shuts down a drug trafficking ring, not this over the top bullshit i gotta watch 15 other movies to understand

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'd love to see Spider-Man vs tombstones gang

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Are all these morons saying GotG wasn't a risk some kind of elaborate troll? Or is it just a bunch of 8--year-olds?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They’re people that were alive in 2014

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Were they in a coma in 2014? On drugs? Living in a cave somewhere?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          This. Even well after the avengers, marvel studios was still considered more of an underdog indie studio if anything that nobody honestly trusted, and GOTG was seen as this crazy fricked up movie that absolutely had no hype until it came out.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            This is bait

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              moron. GOTG was absolutely a risk, ESPECIALLY in 2014.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I don’t care if you think GOTG was a risk or not, but calling out the post that labeled Marvel circa 2014 an underdog indie film studio as bait is a good call.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Seconding this. In a post avengers world, nobody was sure that a comedic superhero team film made by marvel would even break even. We take it for granted now but back then GOTG was crazy fricking risk that totally paid off.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Well, it came out in 2014 when the relevant version of GotG in actual Marvel Comics was still fairly new and doing numbers, riding on the popularity of previous hit books like Annihilation and Annihilation: Conquest and the concurrently running Nova series. I'm sure James Gunn used this to sell the idea of the GotG movie and while we didn't see Nova we did see the Nova Corps well represented. Anyway this is all antiquated since comic sales are apparently no longer considered by the MCU and there are no recent hits from comics to pull from because they're dead too

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >make a good movie
      >it's obviously good
      >"um nobody knows the characters so it's a risk"

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You're laughing. Capeshit is dying and you're laughing.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No way Home made nearly 2 billion Dollar.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The problem is it costed as much to make and advertise so it needed to make at least twice as much back just to break even

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          200 mil budget x2 to account for Hollywood accounting, it was a massive success there's no way arguing around it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        200 mil budget x2 to account for Hollywood accounting, it was a massive success there's no way arguing around it.

        You can't sustain an industry on one massive success. You have to keep making more successful movies, which Disney has not been able to repeat. What are they going to do? Keep making more Spiderman crossover movies forever? That's not going to work. You're thinking in the now, and not in the long term.

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >When the frick were they ever known for taking risks?

    I don't know, probably when they decided to entirely discard the line up that brought them billions and replace them with communist copycats that they KNEW is entirely unprofitable.

    I am still wondering where this moronic mindset about not taking risks came from? Is it safe to release Blade, give Oscar awarded actor that plays him FOURTH billing and have him be dragged around by THREE women nobody ever of in 1930s?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      > Is it safe to release Blade, give Oscar awarded actor that plays him FOURTH billing and have him be dragged around by THREE women nobody ever of in 1930s?
      Are you talking about a movie or comic

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That was the upcoming movie, that is the script, Maheshala Ali (new Blade) had enough sense about him to cause uproar over it, because shit like that damages your career.
        There are some rewrites now, but the writers STILL do everything they can to make him third fiddle in his own movie, so I'd like to hear what's safe about that.

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Iron Man was the biggest risk they've ever taken. They banked everything on an actor who was several decades past his heyday.

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Most notable MCU risks as far as I know:
    - Iron Man 1 they took out half a billion loan and got rehab junkie to be a character no one really knows about and were essentially ready to go down as a company if movie flopped. Jeff Bridges described it as a very expensive student film.
    - GOTG, zoomers don't remember because they haven't really existed before MCU became a thing, but it was a media laughing stock, they were being lambasted for both growing arrogant (that they thought they could sell to people a talking raccoon and tree that speaks only one line movie) or running out of ideas (they thought they could sell to people a talking raccoon and tree that speaks only one line movie). A lot of people already just started thinking Avengers was a fluke and Marvel was on its last leg and GOTG would do them in.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Buddy, give it a rest. The whole zoomer shtick won’t work. I was around in 2014, and so was everyone else saying GOTG wasn’t a risk. People called it a risk, I distinctly remember that. But it was the morons on this board. Every normie I knew was planning on seeing it. Why? Because it was the latest Marvel film. They wanted to see what happens next. It could have been a Z list character from an unknown comic. If it was tied to the MCU back then, it was making money.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >People called it a risk, I distinctly remember that.
        Now why did they do that?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >GOTG, zoomers don't remember because they haven't really existed before MCU became a thing, but it was a media laughing stock
      The worst reaction I remember is when the movie was officially announced and they released concept art and eyebrows were raised for sure, but by the time the trailer dropped and recent movies were succeeding, I remember normies and fans were down to see it. The surprise was that the movie made almost a billion, not that the movie didn't flop.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Captain America: Winter Soldier and the Guardians of the Galaxy created huge kudos for Marvel.

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    LESS risks????????? what the actual frick are they talking about..

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The same anons here posting that Guardians of the Galaxy was a huge risk for the MCU also hold the opinion that the movie isn't a capeshit slop but actually a space opera or some shit.
    You used to see the same type of delusion from people to embarrassed to be seen enjoying the MCU movies during its high in popularity. "Naw man. Winter Soldier isn't really a superhero movie. It is actually more of a Political Thriller", "What? No! Ant-Man is actually a very entertaining heist movie."
    Buch of fricking weirdos. Get the frick out of here with this nonsense.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This, it's exactly like Scorsese or Kurosawa releasing the same shit over and over and over again and pretending the cosmetic changes they did was something interesting or innovative.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        except the style, feel, experience, characters, mood, are all wildly different.

        would you say GOTG1 and GOTG3 are the same movie, just with reskins, because they're both about "a team of superheroes saving the day"?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >would you say GOTG1 and GOTG3 are the same movie, just with reskins, because they're both about "a team of superheroes saving the day"?
          Yes. It is the same shit every movie with the only difference being the goofy villain and what the forced drama will revolve around. Either way most of the time it is some variation based on daddy's issues. In 1 it was Gamorra and Thanos, in 2 it was Starlord and Ego, and 3 it was Rocket and his creator. Forgot the dude's name.
          The team dynamic, the dumb jokes that run for too long, the characters being buttholes to one another before making up near the end, and so on. Exact same shit.

          The Avengers series was exactly the same. EVERY FRICKING MOVIE had the heroes fricking it up on a mission, fighting among themselves, splitting up for a moment, then making up somewhat in order to team up in time to fight the bad guy. EVERY FRICKING MOVIE. To the point it was hard to believe they were friends during Civil War because they spent more time fighting among themselves then doing anything else throughout the series.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >small plot points which takes up a few seconds of screen time happen in both movies, therefore they're the same movie

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              It is the same plot structure, the same formula, being repeated again and again with little deviation here and there.
              The Hangover movies are all the same, for example, to the point where the third movie made fun of that.
              The MCU movies are almost all exactly like that because they keep repeating the formula over and over again.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >the same plot structure, the same formula, being repeated again and again with little deviation here and there

                So just like every mafia, western, action or horror movie.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >except the wopslop or japslop

          Especially all the different DeNiros lol.You sound exactly like the capeshitters.

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I can't believe some of the morons itt can operate a web browser

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Captain Marvel 3 won't happen
    What a surprise

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No Captain Marvel 3, ah well, don't worry Marvel can always use their other female characters, like Wanda...who they turned into a cartoon villain. Oops, looks like they have fricked up irreparably now.

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    LMAO Captain Marvel and Ant Man WERE the safe bets! They quite literally have nothing left. They are at ground freaking zero with no storylines or characters that anyone actually cares about.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There's an insane twisting of logic with them considering The Marvels and Antman 3 risky. Captain Marvel made over $1 billion. A sequel should by all logic be the most rock solid safe bet you could make, you'd expect to perform at least as well. And the Antman movies had upward trajectory in box office take from $500 million to $600 million. Again it looks like a solid safe decision to make a third movie.

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Cinemaphile has some of the most moronic opinions on the internet, holy fricking shit. this thread needs to be AI or some shit because I refuse to believe there are living and breathing human beings actually this moronic.

  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The first Iron Man movie and even Edward Norton's Incredible Hulk movies were buth huge risks. Marvel Studios struck gold with the Iron Man movie and while the Incredible Hulk was an all right movie, I don't think it brought in the the numbers in the film theaters.

    https://gamerant.com/marvel-studios-taking-risks-paid-off/

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is what happens when a media empire becomes too large. You can see it in the vidya industry too with AAA games. The type of content they produce ends up having less and less variety because they're too afraid to try something new and potentially lose money

  45. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Their first movie was iron man an unknown character back then made him well known, guardians of the galaxy an unknown team made them well known, had thanos win in infinity war. The thing is now those characters are a safe bet, so hopefully they’ll see guardians 3 was a success for them which is rare now and make a star lord movie

  46. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Guardians. Ant-Man. The first Iron Man.

  47. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >le fun quirky heist villain movie with cutesie animals, comedic elements and a yay the good guys won at the end is a risk
    kek

    KEK

    K E K

  48. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They risked that the moviegoing public would remain in their seats for the entire 15 minute duration of the credits based on word of mouth alone, just to see a 30 second scene where Samuel L Jackson foreshadows that you have to buy another movie ticket. Then they risked that those same people would actually buy 3-5 tickets a year to see the entire saga of each literally-who member of some homosexual superhero group. And they were right.

  49. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Wandavision and you Chuds STILL complained.

  50. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What would a guaranteed hit for Marvel even be now? The only thing I can think of is bringing back RDJ and Chris Evans.

  51. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ant Man 3 would have been fine if it had actually been about Ant Man.

  52. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >When the frick were they ever known for taking risks?

    Presenting a false reality to preserve their control over that false reality they spent years cultivating is necessary.

    If they just say "The people have rejected our shitty Marvel movies" then the grift is completely over.

  53. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Marvel should just make films targeted toward straight men. Cool protags, hot chicks who are mostly there for fan service, insane edgy villains, big action set pieces with more practical stunts and effects. Recast Carol, find a chick who is buff enough to have muscle without loosing her breasts and stick her in the highest riding one-piece swimsuit you can put on screen without getting an x-rating and that's it. The films will rake in billions every time.
    This will work, and you know how I know it will work? Because that's what every action movie from the 80s and 90s did and they dominated the box office.

  54. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why don't (You) redditors-yeah I know most of you homosexuals are from reddit-just let this shit go???? It's fricking over. It ended with Endgame. The story is finished. This shit is trash. Garbeige. Basura. Stop giving these israelites hope. Let this shit go. Grow the frick up. These are fictional fricking characters that (YOU) homies are so invested in. You're pissing me off and breaking my heart.

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