>When you realize entire "Acolyte" show is a poorly interpreted story based on KOTOR Kreia that Leslye Headland was a fan of.

>When you realize entire "Acolyte" show is a poorly interpreted story based on KOTOR Kreia that Leslye Headland was a fan of.

Chris Avellone somehow managed to destroy Star Wars while being cancelled from industry

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  1. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Star Wars was destroyed in 1999

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      fpwp

      For thos who dont play games. Kreia was the first introduced character in Star Wars lore that criticised GoodvsEvil take on the Jedi and Sith and spread a neutral stoic views on every quest and choice

      spswp

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Still can't accept you based your life around children's movies, SWgay?

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        My life is also based around children’s video games you frogposting frick

  2. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    For thos who dont play games. Kreia was the first introduced character in Star Wars lore that criticised GoodvsEvil take on the Jedi and Sith and spread a neutral stoic views on every quest and choice

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      moron

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Fun fact: she's also Darth Vader's grandmother!

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      i find your lack of Media Literacy, disturbing

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      have a nice day

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      She's the Sith Ayn Rand

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        She's a Christian who converted to Islam and then became the ultimate edgelord Atheist who wants to sever everyone's connection to God

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          she became gnostic and realized that "god" is actually the demiurge

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      > and spread a neutral stoic views
      I love that, nearly twenty years on, the beggar scene STILL filters people like this.
      Neutrality was never her point.

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        nta, but what was her point?

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          she hated that everything was subservient to the invisible hand/will of "the Force" and wanted to destroy it

          • 4 days ago
            Anonymous

            ah, and the invisible force threw some rando at her and he killed her on some cracked space rock with final cinematic missing. And the black ball robot did something sinister.
            Fatalism 1, free will 0
            I guess its kinda poetic that way

            • 4 days ago
              Anonymous

              she basically engineers her own downfall by empowering the Exile who casts her down either to defeat the Sith or to take Traya's power for herself. it's very ironic, yes. it almost makes you feel sorry for her because she really does love the Exile.

              >undisclosed 7 figure sum
              it is funny that if you search their names the first results are just reports of them being documented liars, you just know they're still privately smearing his name

              Avellone has shown no signs of returning to the industry but i'm sure he's blackballed despite legally clearing his name and proving the allegations against him were bullshit.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                >she really does love the Exile.
                wtf, i dont remember that being in game at all. All i remember was her b***hing until i was able to leave her on the ship

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Wouldn’t say it’s ironic when she is clearly happy with someone who takes her teachings and defeats her with them.

                >she really does love the Exile.
                wtf, i dont remember that being in game at all. All i remember was her b***hing until i was able to leave her on the ship

                She calls the exile beautiful in being able to forge their own path, and states they’re the greatest they ever trained. Given 2 was the game that ranked Revan up from a competent and powerful knight to a tactical genius prodigy, and she was the one who trained him, that’s a pretty big complement.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                >pretty big complement.
                sure but i never thought that ugly grangran was lusting for that exile meat

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                He didn't sat in lust you dumb frick

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                >He didn't sat in lust you dumb frick

                The point was to think about the consequences of your actions, not just mindlessly pick the option that would give good/bad boy points. She doesn’t care which option you take, only that you take one that you’ve actually considered.

                >she really does love the Exile.
                huh?

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Wrong type of love it's a mother's love which she could never give her real child, and instead gives to her most brilliant pupil

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Storge, not eros moron.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                tell that to your shrink, granny fold sucker

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                >tell that to your shrink
                No thanks. I will continue reading Greek philosophy though, something you've clearly never done.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                your ero manga hentai tags dont impress me coomer.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Try harder next time, homosexual.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                like the homosexual that thinks blabering about greek philosophy is anything but cringe?

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                >he didn't unlock the Kreia romance

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                >she is clearly happy with someone who takes her teachings and defeats her with them.
                her end goal was to destroy the force using the exile and the exile ends up destroying her instead

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                its like poetry it rhymes

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Also: Force cannot be destroyed. Imagine an RPG game set on Caribbeans where the main npc is a pirate captain who wants to destroy the ocean, since so many people have dawned there.
                Spoiler: he fails.
                Meta-spoiler: 20 years after its premiere, midwit homosexuals still praise the writing and captain's philosophy.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                that's what's so grand about the sheer volume of Kreia's hatred. she makes characters like Palpatine (Nihlus) and Vader (Sion) look so childish by comparison.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                >character whose story arc is "Force is a meanie, BAAAAWWWW :~~*" makes others look childish
                Sure, sure.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                filtered

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                I accept your concession.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                not understanding the topic of discussion isn't an argument, sorry you're dumb. bye lol

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                There are force sensitives and non-force sensitives.

                Creating a galactic psychic scream that kills off every force sensitive is enough to cut it off from the galaxy

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah. And you know what? What if we make, like, a huge hairdryer and aim it at the ocean. And if we keep it that way just long enough... we kill the ocean!
                Yeah, no. Not how the Force works. Every living being is a part of it. An extremely powerful cataclysmic event can create an anomaly like Alpheridies, Malachor V or Ziost. These are drops in the ocean compared to the entire Galaxy and even then these places aren't really deprived of the Force.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Yuuzhan Vong live without the Force just fine

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                WRONG.
                Zonama Sekot was a sentient world and seeing the devastation the Vong were causing, it intervened and shifted them in the Force, just so they couldn't gain strength from it. So the same thing that happened to Ulic Qel-Droma, but on a global scale. They still existed in the Force. Same as ysalamiri exist in the Force, despite negating other Force users.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                >'shifted them IN it.'

                They weren't in it before, moron

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Bitch, are you moronic? Yuuzhan Vong were powerful Force users do to Zonama Sekot. Their entire philosophy was a twisted and misunderstood way of trying to get back to the Force.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                They were stripped of the force, survived, and became galaxy destroying cenobites

                They still existed OUTSIDE the force and couldn't be affected by force powers. Long enough to hop galaxies and wreck shit. Seems to me, as a warrior race, they were doing fine

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                HAVE YOU EVEN READ THE BOOKS, homosexual?
                They make it clear. Nothing exists outside of the Force. Even the Vong. The pain they felt while trying to use it is a proof enough that they lived within the Force, just like any other creature and it could affect them. Just not in a way the Jedi normally understand it. Except for Jacen at one point, when he managed to become one with the Force in the last volume of New Jedi Order.
                Just shut the frick up already, you normie tourist. I'm wasting my time on a moron like you, trying to prove that water is wet.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, they were force stripped and that is the remembered pain they felt. Jacen's vongsense is basically inverting the force to find a connection with them but it isn't a normal force ability, Jacen is just an idiot savant when it comes to force shit.

                But the hidden lord proves your statement true because he returned the force back to a vong through medical procedures and reunlocked it for a vong caster. The problem is they're disconnected in such a way that they might as well be considered immune.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Anon, they were force stripped and that is the remembered pain they felt.
                They didn't feel pain while being shifted in the Force by Zonama Sekot. They felt pain each time they tried to shift back. That's why, over the generations, they've learned to falsely associate connection to the Force with suffering. All this means they're NOT immune. They're might be considered immune to the ways Jedi can use the Force, but something like the Ziost ritual would still frick them up.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Have you? Lool

                Blind hatred for KotoR 2 is retroactively destroying your reading comprehension

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Have you?
                Yes, homosexual. And you haven't.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                >cut off from the force by their OG planet dying
                >still exist outside the force for thousands of years practically immune
                >takes the child of their OG planet as a deus ex machina to bring them BACK in the force to defeat them

                Keku. Screaming about muh Zonama Sekot whilst getting it constantly confused with their homeworld

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          The point was to think about the consequences of your actions, not just mindlessly pick the option that would give good/bad boy points. She doesn’t care which option you take, only that you take one that you’ve actually considered.

          • 4 days ago
            Anonymous

            >not just mindlessly pick the option that would give good/bad boy points
            wasnt the power system specificaly crafted so that you rewarded for mindless sticking to either good or bad? iirc you got +3 dex bonus for being 100% evil or something

            • 4 days ago
              Anonymous

              It does, but 2 gives you so many options that you can hit mastery by just beeing urself rather than minmaxxing.
              It was one of the big issues with 1 for me; you had to empty your wallet to every beggar or kick every puppy to reliably get mastery in a game where a first time player likely got fricked by overleveling on Taris

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                >2 gives you so many options that you can hit mastery
                thats pretty cool. unfortunately i didnt know nor expect this so with any morality system i always go 100% one direction. I wonder how many players knew about it

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                99% of KotOR2 is the usual black and white bullshit. Probably moreso than an average RPG these days. Kreia is the only exception, which makes her stick like a sore thumb, if anything.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                >99% of KotOR2 is the usual black and white bullshit.
                99% of kotor 2 are empty corridors with missing content.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                >99% of KotOR2 is the usual black and white bullshit.
                99% of kotor 2 are empty corridors with missing content.

                I thought 99% of KotOR2 was Telos?

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Nah, man. I remember it clear that cleaning out Malachor V takes like 2 weeks of constant gameplay. At least there's no ending cinematic, so devs managed to find a way to make it a bit shorter.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Nah, man. I remember it clear that cleaning out Malachor V takes like 2 weeks of constant gameplay. At least there's no ending cinematic, so devs managed to find a way to make it a bit shorter.

                for me its dantooine. ugly shitty planet

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                filtered. the crystal cave was kino

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                yeah true, besides rowing bands on dinoBlack folk assaulting everyone who came for the sweet sweet crack rocks

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Kreia was the first introduced character in Star Wars lore that criticised GoodvsEvil take
      While being evil herself. With literal dark side corruption on her face. And spewing bullshit that clearly didn't align with the SW lore.
      Also, you've misspelled "criticized". But don't worry. Kreiagays have always been midwits.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      >neutral
      Kreia was never neutral or wanted the exile to be. Simply put she wanted the exile to follow his own will and path and not blindly follow the dogma of sith or Jedi.
      Kreia hates the force at the will it seemingly has on the universe. How it demands "balance" which in turn costs billions of lives. The exile cut himself off from the force, and in doing so severed himself from the wheels of fate. That's why she gets so pissy when you act like an edgelord or self sacrificing without thinking of the consequences. The exile is unique and she can't stand that seeing him throwing his free will away to blindly serve some ideal.

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        >he exile cut himself off from the force,
        is there a different playthrough if you dont do jedi shit? that would be great...

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Someday there will be a 199999999 post. Oh boy I'm gonna be there for that!

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      my Black folk I'm going to explain kreia right now

      1. she's full of bullshit
      2. she wants revenge on the jedi and the sith for fricking her over
      3. suicides by exile after she gets her petty revenge

      kreia is someone older than you who you think is wise and full of knowledge but at the end of the game she's just a sick old lady who is begging for you to put her out of her frickery. kotor 2 is about trauma and how people deal with said trauma not about le good/evil.

      why do you think the three main villains are
      >endless suffering
      >endless hunger
      >endless coping

  3. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Leslye Headland wasn't a fan of Kreia until Disney handed her a check to watching Kreia dialogue videos on youtube, for a max, 2 hours.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      No, she took inspiration from the prequels.

  4. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah like every woman involved in Star Wars she butchered it because she didn't get it in the first place. What Kreia was actually trying to do and why was nothing like what this mess is putting forward. Avellone can't be blamed for this.

  5. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    why do they have to find new ways to hurt me

  6. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Why was she butthurt over giving some spare change to a hobo?

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      because the force is a scam that makes you behave like a sociopath if you truly want to do the least amount of harm

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      The hobo then got robbed and killed. You can tell her to frick off too (which I did in most of these situations) and she likes you for that

  7. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    b***h will spout this and literally 5 minutes later say Apathy is death

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Deep down she is basically just a pathological liar and psychopath gaslighting everyone for her own benefit

      And trying to kill the force wasn’t out of some noble ambition to free people from it, it was because she was literally just seething that people found it gave their lives meaning and purpose

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      That wasn’t her, that was a dark side hallucination in a Korriban tomb

  8. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    how would I realize that if I never watched this shit and I barely remember the other one
    maybe you should have a nice day

  9. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    I purposefully ignored her as much as possible, and when forced to interact with her I gave her the rudest replies
    She was such a dragggg but everybody makes out like she is super deep
    Best part of the game was making her suffer at the end

  10. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    >neither sith nor jedi
    >neither man or woman
    >neither straight or queer
    IMAGINE THE POSSIBILITIES!

  11. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    >trash EU lore for reasons
    >rape EU lore in the worst way possible to bait audiences and because you lack originality
    I want this shit to crash and burn so much bros
    I want all "nerd" ips to be absolute financial poison so they can't milk it anymore and lose their jobs

  12. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    it was really stupid to me how the last jedi backlash was boiled down to "star wars chuds just don't like their precious franchise challenged" cause KOTOR2 is the most purposefully antagonistic and subversive and mean-spirited work in the franchise and also one of the most beloved by the hardcore fans

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      I like how all the Chud you tubers never mention KOTOR2 as anything but beloved game while at the same time saying "morally grey Jedi" is dumb and anti star wars

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        because they didnt play it or played it long time ago. Its the Fallout 1 and 2 effect where they will call FO2 classic despite being moronic incomplete nonsense that makes the first game into unfunny joke

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          frick I love fallout 2 so much, even with all it's faults it's a better game than first one, wich has 0 replayability

          • 4 days ago
            Anonymous

            i am sorry, i genuinly cant tell if you are being ironic.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      because it always boils down to blaming the audience, these malignant narcissists refuse to admit any fault. Kathleen Kennedy is a moron and hired the most braindead mediocre c**ts to run Star Wars for her

  13. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    kreia was always shit and kotor 2 is an abortion of a game. its the prime example of SW EU being hyped by absolute basedjack morons that consider trash like KOTOR 2 good-

  14. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Chris Avellone won a lawsuit and all three of his false accusers retracted their false accusations.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Chris Avellone was vindicated though

      they were also ordered by the court to pay him an undisclosed 7 figure sum because their statements were provably false and only made for the purpose of hurting his career

      >trash EU lore for reasons
      >rape EU lore in the worst way possible to bait audiences and because you lack originality
      I want this shit to crash and burn so much bros
      I want all "nerd" ips to be absolute financial poison so they can't milk it anymore and lose their jobs

      the only upshot is that none of this stuff is doing well at all, the FCC just allows them to lie about their streaming numbers because corporations are too big to be allowed to fail. but it has to fail eventually, even if it's just cultural irrelevancy like it's languishing in now.

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        The failure point isn’t financial, it’s reaction based.
        The real reason these shows are so utterly shitting the bed is because nobody cares anymore. Taking an IP out in front of the cameras is supposed to be subversive and demoralising, but ultimately people just shrug and move on. It used to be that audiences would only move away from a previously popular property due to IRL outrage or consistent poor quality, but now there’s a very clear one strike and I’m out policy from viewers.
        Viewers are just apathetic to the shit quality entertainment designed to offend them and apathy is death

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        >undisclosed 7 figure sum
        it is funny that if you search their names the first results are just reports of them being documented liars, you just know they're still privately smearing his name

  15. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    KotOR from BioWare had a morally grey Black Jedi.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      The old Black person jolee quit the jedi

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      The old Black person jolee quit the jedi

      I had a great time force storming Jolee to death

  16. 4 days ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      All the 'morally grey' gays re: Kreia are cancer.

      She knew she was a piece of shit. She said so to Atris when saying they were both beyond redemption. The Exile's final lesson was to kill Kreia, and as the one with the experience of willingly abandoning the Force, decide ultimately whether to kill it or not.

      What she was passing down was the dangers or LARPing to the point, where as a force user, you lose all sense of agency, purpose, and the ability to be a conscious moral agent.

      She did nothing wrong, and is one of the best characters in SW and written by a man, because only men have the empathy AND objectivity to write convincing characters.

      These Disneygays are just raping "Legends"/EU more explicitly after the ST failed

  17. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    KOTOR II has the coolest looking sith ever but I can't remember anything about him

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      He was very hungry.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      >REEE AARGH KKKKKKRK SHHHHFT

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Biggest consoomer in the galaxy

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      >but I can't remember anything about him
      because he was a complete jobber

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Cool art.

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        Had this as my background on my old pc for the longest time

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      He was just a man. Nothing more.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Darth Icky

  18. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Kreia just hates the force and the fact it has so much influence over people that can't influence it. She isn't a gray jedi. He's a straight up force hater.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      >kicked out of the Jedi order for being a moron
      >fricked over by the Sith for being a moron
      >I BLAME THE FORCE!!!!!!!!1111111 🙁
      One thing I have to admit. Avellone surely knows how to write women.

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        Well before the sale to disney, the force having a will is literal, as in they're people inside of the force, microscopic ones. Lucas was going to pull some MIB shit and have literal tiny before running the force. 'Whils'

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          >was going to
          Yeah. Which means they were never canon. OK.

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        she's one of the best written women for that and believable hypocrites around. that's no mean feat indeed

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          Oh, I don't mind that. I mind that, despite having a hundred dialogue options, I'm never able to call her out on this bullshit.

  19. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Why? Obsidian slop is campy. Why would anyone try to recreate or copy it?

  20. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    STAR WARS DIES TONIGHT

  21. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    There is no fricking way in all hells combined that that fat ugly dyke played Kotor 2. She probably read a short synopsis of her when browsing wookiepedia for "research" for that car-crash show. And figured she was a strong female so she was a fan.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      More likely some assistant told her about it that had a brother that played it.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Well, dah! b***h couldn't tell a katarn from Kyle Katarn. It's more likely those Disney tards haven't even seen the OT.

  22. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    She was the most annoying companion in the game so of course the morons at Disney would wanna make a story about her

  23. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    kotor 1 mogs kOtOR 2

  24. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Remember when Avellone based his entire career around b***hing about morality and heroic characters and then the minute Obsidian hurt his fee fees he told RPGCodex he would 'confront evil' wherever it appears?

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