>when you realize the eagles counter argument holds no water
>when you realize the eagles counter argument holds no water
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Eagles can't fight properly if they are carrying a hobbit, CHUD.
Eagles don't work because Sauron would see them easily and shit on them
why not fly at night and then have the hobbits parachute in? what's the gravitational acceleration of middle earth anyways? is it still 9.8 m/s^2? the hobbits might not even need a parachute if they can aim for a nice bush given how small they are. A forward eagle force could even deploy a soft landing ahead of time, like a stack of hay, then the hobbits can aim for the hay
Maybe they could also steal, idk, some shiny night-vision goggles or something first.
I don't think middle earth developed an understanding of air dynamics and gravitational force. Minas Tirith isn't even a self sustaining city but relies on the surrounding area for food, etc.
How could an eagle even get into the crack of doom to throw the ring in?
The Eagles counter argument is that there is a giant black tower with a magical death ray on top of it in the middle of Mordor.
why didnt they use the eagles to poison the water supply of the orcs? the eagles could fly up and then drop a few dead bodies into their water reservoirs, thereby sickening the forces of mordor
Orcs eat maggoty bread and raw flesh, they won't get sick from some chemicals in the water
why didnt the eagles firebomb mordor?
why didn't they just take turns
>why didn't they just share the crack
The thing they don't tell you about crack is that God damn it's good
Lol, but Jesus that’s a hack response
forgot pic in my anger
what's mordor's radar technology like? are they basically operating off one advanced telescope? distraction tactics can be employed to draw the eye of sauron while spec op eagles perform raids and sabotage, they'd be in and out before the nazgul are even aware
The immortal elite fliers can sense the ring just like the giant flaming eyeball can see at night
they could try buzzing mordor's air space to test how far they can sense the ring (both distance and vertical) and what their reaction time is, after that you can develop a strategy to insert the hobbits on their mission, e.g. timing it with when you know the fliers are deployed out to battle.
Sauron would be able to see the eagles flying against the sky line towards Mordor/Mt Doom and then unleash all the Nazgul along with their Fellbeasts to wipe them all out. He'd employ every tactic imaginable of that time to take down anything in the sky and a lot of people miss one gigantic flaw in letting the eagles take the ring to Mt Doom. What happens if one of the eagles carrying the ring falls? All hope would be lost, the ring would land within Mordor surrounded by orcs, goblins and whatever other of their ilk reside there. The world would end the moment the one eagle, exposed at all angles in the sky, would fail
gandalf riding eagles could zap down nazgul with lightning bolts and then bomb orcs with meteors
Yeah, but then the rest of the party won't get any exp and you'll be playing hard mode in chapter 3 when Gandalf falls off.
>All hope would be lost, the ring would land within Mordor surrounded by orcs, goblins and whatever other of their ilk reside there.
this can happen in any scenario where you're trying to get the ring to mordor though, not just with the eagles.
Which is why they chose the least suHispanicious option, Sauron never would have thought that 2 hobbits would be the ones to invade Mordor and take the ring to Mt Doom. Every option they had was a chance to fail, but the eagles were the ones with the worst success rate. Sauron would expect the eagles to be used and would have prepared for them to be used against him to destroy the ring, a sneaking mission was the most successful choice Middle Earth had
why didnt the eagles sneak into mordor?
they could have at least gotten closer. How many mountain passes over the horizon did they have to go?
You're right. Picking a couple midgets to deliver it on foot was clearly the best tactical decision. Fuck the fellowship too. Gandalf was easily spanked before he came back as white and well we saw how easily the rest were defeated by a small detachment or uruks. How were they ever going to be able to defeat all the defenses you just mentioned?
Not to mention that the Eagles are also Maiar, and just as susceptible to Sauron's corrupting influence as Saruman. It would only take one.
No, they weren't. Tolkien played with the idea but changed his mind before he finished the books. They were just beasts that had special gifts from Manwe.
My bad. Still though, being Manwe's, only makes them *more* corruptible.
>spec op eagles
Lost fucking hard.
Literally if the eagle got hurt during the raid, Sam an Frotto would be dead meat falling to their deaths.
doesn't matter as long as they make it to mt doom. A kamikaze mission was the most logical option. Just straight dive bomb Frodo into the lava, no expectations of coming back
The Eagles are an obvious big fucking target
>i am incapable of understanding symbolism (mark of the NPC): the post
eagles don´t care enough about your problems
Gandalf did ask the eagles. He just didn't like their response and never brought it up.
Why didn't Sauron just fill Mt. Doom with water so nobody could destroy the ring?
it never occurred to Sauron that someone would destroy the Ring, or even want to. He just couldn’t conceive of the notion, it was so alien. It’d be like setting an armed guard around your vegetable garden; why on earth would anyone ever threaten it? A guard would be pointless; that was Sauron’s line of thinking.
I appreciate you giving me a correct and well constructed reply, I knew the answer I just wanted to shitpost.
well, asking why the eagles wouldn´t sneak into mordor was one of the highlights of my day
Why didn't they event the assault rifle and kevlar armor first?
Why can't you Tolkien-tards just admit your beloved writer made a huge plot hole?
Dilate harder
>gandalf tells them to take the eagles with his last words
>they ignore it and larp with elves instead
>by the time gandalf respawns sam and frodo are miles away following some twink through a swamp
fucking hobbits
Fuck, is that what he meant? Take the eagles you fools? It all makes sense now.
when the ring tries to tempt sam and all it can offer him is
>uh... you can be like... the best gardener. like wow, so great. my god you could grow anything
and sam basically goes
>i'm already a good enough gardener and my friend needs me
Where would the Eagles drop them off?
mt doom duh
Forget the eagles. Why not use the undead army to fight Saruman and also Sauron? They're literally invincible, all the have to do is march forward and chop shit.
Can't Nazgul and Sauron influence spirits?
Not in a finger-snapping/massive scale way as far as I know. Otherwise he wouldn't have needed the rings to start with.
The eagles is easy to explain why they couldn't work.
The ring can corrupt anything. It could corrupt the Eagles. And if the Eagles go full evil, then the Fellowship is fucked. Unless Gandalf kills them (which he would never do because they're his friends, but let's pretend he does), which would leave them like they were at the beginning.
If the ring senses it's getting destroyed, it easily can turn anyone to evil the closer they get to Mordor. That's why they better not choose to use the eagles at all. Also, let's not forget the Nazguls, which the Eagles may beat but not if they're carrying the Fellowship. And if they get Frodo then they're fucked. That's why the fellowship HAD to be a secret mission.
same reason the USA shouldn't have invaded Afghanistan
Why didn't Gandalf just miracle them into mount doom?
He's not allowed to fuck with shit too much. Just give good people the push they need.
>I can carry
sam can be trusted to. the eagles aren't little mega-mormons. they're chaotic-good/neutral hotheaded weirdos who can be counted on to do something nice only occasionally, not carry the ring without falling prey to it
Sauron knew about the threat the eagles posed and invested in AA weaponry accordingly. The eagles had to wait until his tower was destroyed before they could get within 10 miles of the place.
9 of them and how many iggles?
Flying V that bitch past them
Why did Eru Ilúvatar allow it all to happen? He is powerful enough to create the universe and respawn Gandalf with upgrades but can't stop some ring with minor magic.
Eru is modeled off Yahoova in other words he's a cunt.
If an all powerful god directly interferes with the world then you're nought but his slave.
The destruction of numenor was a special case.
get real, the only reason they even show up at the end was because everyone else did and the invitation said be there or be square