The whole show is gonna be cringe anyway so may as well
It's gotten to the point where I just know something is going to fail if Matt Smith is in it. He just has either atrocious luck or a terrible agent. Probably both
>The whole show is gonna be cringe anyway so may as well > >It's gotten to the point where I just know something is going to fail if Matt Smith is in it. He just has either atrocious luck or a terrible agent. Probably both
You can tell just from the teaser trailer. He gets some stupid line like "history doesn't remember blood, it remembers words" or something equally inane. The writing for this show is going to be bad because it's going to be 50% minority and women so it's going to be a slew of under-qualified tv drama writers.
Yes, the first Baratheon was Aegon the Conqueror's bastard brother, plus Targs married into it several times including Robert's own grandmother was one.
He surrounded himself by lannisters. He should have left based Stannis Baratheon in charge of all the affairs but instead it was basically Tiwyin who was the real king
The thing is none of them had a claim. They took it by the sword. But Boromir arrived first to King's landing and met Jaime Lannister who had just killed the mad king.
This. I don't get it. Robert knew how autistic his brother was. Why not make him hand and let him run shit.
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Because no one wanted stannis in charge, banning brothels and autistically applying justice to things no one cared about.
Don't get me wrong, I like stannis as a character, but it's pretty obvious no one wanted him ruling.
lol no
That was Aerys the Mad M.O.
Jon was the Hand. The realm was calm and mostly unified through diplomacy and marriages after the war except for Iron Islander Black folk, and part of DorBlack folk
The first Baratheon of Storm's End was a black aired dude named Orys Baratheon, a general of Aegon. It was rumored it was a bastard brother of him from his father's mistress (silver hairs from the Targaryen can sometimes be recessive against dark airs. Between Orys and Jon we had other examples in history of dark aired pathernal targs)
Robert's strong claim wasnt from a 300 year old rumor. He had the strongest claim because his pathernal grandmother was a Targaryen princess, and so outside the Targs themselves he was the closer to the succession line
That, and the right of conquest, as he defeated the heir and de facto ruler of the Targaryens, prince Rhaegar, the lunatic rapist that made Lyanna fall in love with him to fullfill some bullshit prophecy
Yes, he was. He knew Lyanna was promised to Robert, and he was married, but decide to seduce her anyway because he was sure she was the Ice and he was the Fire of the prophecy he read
He didnt do that for lust or just to abuse his power, he tought saving the world was worthy seduce a promised woman and betray his wife. But still, he likely didnt loved a random 15 years old he barely knew.
Still, he should had know that seducing her would had lead to a massive civil war
Even in the case he won, what was his plan? Execute half of the lord of the realms?
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Why does he need to have a plan? He was in a loveless marriage and a pretty sad guy overall so him doing something dumb when he fell in love make sense. Pretty much all of the other characters do moronic shit that fricks everything up (Ned, Robb, Tyrion) but only Rhaegar gets a legion of fanfiction readers that can't stop talking about how hes the worst guy ever.
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It's clear from the POV characters that told about him that it had nothing to do with love or boredom
He was obsessed with some prophecy he read as a nerdy boy, to the point the very same day he decided to start training with the sword and getting Cinemaphile, likely just because he considered himself a prophetized hero
Seducing Lyanna probably was the next step of the supposed prophecy plan he was tasked by Heaven to complete.
He was a schizo no different than his dad, brother, and sister
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>It's clear from the POV characters that told about him that it had nothing to do with love or boredom
According to two lines he says in a dream sequence and one line from Barristan who even concedes that he never really understood Rhaegar. Characterizing him as solely obsessed with the prophecy is dumb, it would be like saying he was obsessed with land based on that one line he says to Jon Con.
cont.
Also apparently Elia knew about it and gave her concession for him to bang Lyanna.
The dude was obsessed about having three childrens, ranting about "the dragon needs three heads". Likely another part of his beloved prophecy that needed to complete
But Elia was frail and so a third pregnancy would had killed her. He needed another womb to hatch his third spawn.
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>Even in the case he won, what was his plan? Execute half of the lord of the realms?
we at least know that he was going to do something to depose aerys, according to jaime, I kind of want to try and make a long post about it but at the same time I dont think it's gonna be worth it since most of it is gonna be just assumptions due to us not having the whole picture of everything
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15y is the legal age in 1st world countries though?
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Anonymous
Today sure, but this is medieval. And she consented. Holy frick in our actual history we traded 13 year olds for cattle
>nooooo Rhaegar can't just be a normal guy that fricked up really bad >he has to be a heckin rapist because modern age of consent laws even though Lyanna was being forced into a marriage she didn't want with Robert anyway >also hes obsessed with prophecy because of two lines he said about prophecy in a dream sequence
Rhaegar haters are moronic.
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you're replying to bait
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>implying the vitriol isn’t from Gurm playing the prophecy angle straight
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I don't get why so many people think prophecies can't be real in asoiaf when theres that chapter where a woods witch predicts the red wedding and Balon's death.
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Maybe its the “prophecy is a double-edged sword” dialogue
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Does this person ignore that Jon has many signs that he is indeed the prince that was promised thus this would justify Rheagar.
Being obsessed with qt tomboy Lyanna instead of embracing having a hot wife Cersei. Had he at least tried to move on and stop whoring and calling his wife the wrong name in bed Cersei would have at least put out one true Baratheon child.
I didn't know what to expect, I went in blind back in the day, I finished ACoK before season 1 finished. In fact I finished it the day they showed Ned's beheading.
The setting and explanation / world building of the islands fascinated me.
I hear this repeated a lot on the internet as gospel but I personally didn’t think the show was shit untill the 6th with the beyond the wall shit. What was bad in the 5th?
The entire Dorne storyline, Arya in Braavos, and Danny in Slaver's Bay. Those first 3 or 4 episodes that leaked early were traumatic to watch. One of the most profound dips in quality of any successful TV show ever.
I feel if he just killed Jamie cersei would be too butt hurt to think straight and advertise her moves due to being emotional.
Though realistically he could've avoided all this shit if he didn't kill a bunch of Motherfrickers over Ned's sister who clearly didn't want anything to do with him.
Aerys also clearly intended to kill Ned and Robert as well. Technically it was Jon Arryn who started Robert's rebellion by taking up arms and refusing to deliver his wards to the mad king
Teaming up with Lannisters was always a ticking time bomb. He needed to work towards getting them out of the picture but he instead got complacent and was too drunk and lazy to notice them scheming around him.
you don't need dogs to hunt boar. You send your servants into the woods with sticks to track it, and then they spook it into running towards you and you cut it down.
He should have given the realm to Stannis or someone who actually wanted the crown, went back to his castle and fathered 1000 bastards.
Likely Cersei and Jamie would have still fricked but Stannis would have caught onto it early and had them both killed. Tywin would declare war to save face while taking another bride to have children with asap, sacrifice a thousand or two men in a weak attack, then quietly tell Stannis Tyrion did the whole thing so he could get rid of the entire bad crop of children while having new ones.
Ned Stark would have had 5 more kids, dumped Jon at the wall to ensure he was bound to the black and couldn't try to take the throne.
Dany's entire story would probably be the same minus the assassination attempt and maybe she'd never hatch the dragons idk.
The thing is none of them had a claim. They took it by the sword. But Boromir arrived first to King's landing and met Jaime Lannister who had just killed the mad king.
And that was his mistake. It's true that Stannis is not a man easy to love but even Ned and Jon Snow respected him. I just hope he doesn't die on the books
Not exactly. Robert was seething at Stannis because of his "failure" of taking Dragonstone before the targ loyalists could escape Visery and the newborn Dany to the east
What was the most stupid thing in the show for you?
I recently rewatched GoT and holy shit that north expedition to capture wraith idea was beyons moronic and the final nail to the coffin. Everything after was just on the same level of shit
>What was the most stupid thing in the show for you?
Off the top of my head? Tyrion's plan to go beyond the wall to retrieve a wight to prove to Cersei why she should help everyone.
And then Jon Snow, the literal ruler of Winterfell, risking his life to accomplish such idiotic task; Gendry running so fast he almost broke the sound barrier. Our heroes standing on a frozen lake, surrounded by white walkers and wights for hours (days?) without food, shelter or water.
And last but not least, Daenerys, risking her life's mission and her offspring to rescue a guy she just met a few weeks ago.
Yeah, the plan to go beyond the wall has to be the peak of the series in terms of stupidity.
I don't get how normalgays liked season 7, it was so fricking obvious that the show was going in a terrible direction, and that season 8 could only be worse.
I honestly think s6 left the show in a bad but salageble state, being slightly better than s5, but when season 7 aired I was ready to drop it, and only finished it because of how much time I had invested in the franchise.
>but when season 7 aired I was ready to drop it, and only finished it because of how much time I had invested in the franchise.
I think that's true for many of us.
Just because they changed some stuff in a dumb way later does't make it bad.
Only season 5 finally jumped the shark and became bad, everything before was good.
Yes. Tyrion's whole plotline post s4 fails as well because D&D entirely miss the point. By ignoring the Tysha stuff they removed Tyrion's motivation to kill Tywin and later become a stunted ill-made spiteful creature. Since Dinklage was extremely popular they kept him as a protagonist which removed his role in the story.
It was supposed to mean that he is worried two targaryen are having sex for dramatic effect (for whatever reason), but it was filmed so awkwardly it seemed like Tyrion had a cuckhold fetish.
Things would've probably turned out fine if he kicked Jaime to the curb with some hemming and hawing about how Tywin needs to have his heir start governing then porked Cersei until a black haired baby came out.
yeah that was what I was talking about. She made sure to hop off at the last minute most of the time but the one time he managed to get her pregnant she killed the baby in the crib.
She intentionally aborted Roberts trueborn kids whenever he knocked her up. A poor move since she could have given him a strong black haired son and no one would have said a thing about the rest.
He thought winning and ruling was the same thing. He barley governed himself. But at least their was peace (or the closest thing to it) for most of his reign.
Almost was except for one moronic move >Let me just antagonize several dozen hungry and tired men who just saw their friends massacred by ice demons and zombies >Also half of them are convicted murderers and rapists and I have the only warm house with food and women for a hundred miles around
I'm not sure what Craster thought was going to happen
Dude was a warrior bot a leader. He could best anyone on the field, buy didn't know the first thing about ruling a country. He surrounded himself with conniving schemers and let himself get soft.
>He surrounded himself with conniving schemers and let himself get soft.
You can really blame arryn for that, he was the guy who actually governed. Not only he didn't oust pycelle immediatly, but he also literally gave littlefinger the postion, which to be fair, he had proven to be good at, but still.
Being an alcoholic. If he wasn't blind drunk all the time he would have remembered all the timed Cersei finished him with her mouth and realised his kids weren't his
It used to be a legitimate place. Lords would send one of their younger sons who would have no claims to inherit there, like Eddard's brother, and going to serve there was seen as honorable. Only in fairly recent times it became a cesspool for criminals.
He didnt know how to juggle between corruption and control like Jon Arryn did.
In fact, Jon should be way more fleshed out in this shit series.
He's always mentioned in the books, but the show barely acknowledged the guy
It's because people thought he'd be like in the books, which is smart and pretty creepy. Instead they made him some weird, generic loser who knows his bastard is psychotic, doesn't care if Ramsay kills his kids, and for some reason never suspected Ramsay would kill him (yea right)
What's funny is that in the books Roose always wears chainmail underneath his clothes (like he does at the red wedding in the show) and yet they still had him not do it in the show for convenience sake so that Ramsay can nothin personnel him
>r*msay goes for le shocking sudden kill >*clink* >look of shock on his face >roose gives a cold smirk >gets dragged away by bolton guards >thrown into a cell with his hungry hounds >cut to black >"And who are you..."
I'll take my writer's check now
>Where did he go wrong?
When he neglected his wife instead of at least doing his duty. I mean, she was still hot in the beginning. She probably wouldn't have been as sour about the prostitutes if he also fricked her regularly. Then he knew the Lannisters were up to no good and he just went along with it because he thought they didn't have the balls
In the late 00s there was a (now banned) thread on westeros.org before trannies started moderating there statyed by a woman saying exactly that but regarding eating her pussy once a month
He became king.
He hated it so much that he became a fat alcoholic. And in a vain effort to relive the glory days he got himself killed while fighting a pig.
What did Cersei do really? Frick her brother? Robert was fricking prostitutes. Got Robert drunk? He did that himself.
I really hate that they never did his arc, fricking hell also Ciaran is a kino actor but I dont see him as Mance, he really needed his bard clothes to see if he could fit the character
>Continually fricks up in the war against the Lannisters >Practically all of his family dead or murdered >Even gets captured by his enemies (multiple times) >Gets out of it without being tortured or mutilated >Keeps his ancestral lands and titles >Has a cute and loving wife who bears him a healthy son to carry on his legacy
How did he do it bros?
It's amazing how often things go awry in this series because of this. I get that information is sensitive but still. Doran is by far the worst culprit in this regard.
>WINDS, you say? Yes, still working. Finally finished a clutch of Cersei chapters that were giving me fits. Now I am wrestling with Jaime and Brienne. The work proceeds, though not as fast as many of you would like. >THE WINDS OF WINTER is going to be a big book. The way it is going, it could be bigger than A STORM OF SWORDS or A DANCE WITH DRAGONS, the longest books in the series to date. I do usually cut and trim once I finish, but I need to finish first.
https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/
Hmm, GRRM just updated and claims to still be working slowly on WoW
An estranged cousin I haven't seen in quite a few years named his daughter "Khaleesi" before the last few seasons of this show. If I ever meet him again I don't know if I'd be able to resist making fun of him and his child.
He married a woman because he father was powerful then it bit him in the ass. I wouldn't be surprised the the lanasiters planned his death before the wedding even started
BOAR
frankly this.
Being color blind and not asking why his kids all have yellow hair
He better make a cameo in the new got show as a baratheon ancestor
That would be cringe
It would be cringe, yes
The whole show is gonna be cringe anyway so may as well
It's gotten to the point where I just know something is going to fail if Matt Smith is in it. He just has either atrocious luck or a terrible agent. Probably both
>The whole show is gonna be cringe anyway so may as well
>
>It's gotten to the point where I just know something is going to fail if Matt Smith is in it. He just has either atrocious luck or a terrible agent. Probably both
You can tell just from the teaser trailer. He gets some stupid line like "history doesn't remember blood, it remembers words" or something equally inane. The writing for this show is going to be bad because it's going to be 50% minority and women so it's going to be a slew of under-qualified tv drama writers.
weren't the baratheon ancestors basically targaryens?
Yes, the first Baratheon was Aegon the Conqueror's bastard brother, plus Targs married into it several times including Robert's own grandmother was one.
>Targs married into it
As I recall, it’s said that Ned Stark had an equal or better claim to the throne than Robert himself did.
He surrounded himself by lannisters. He should have left based Stannis Baratheon in charge of all the affairs but instead it was basically Tiwyin who was the real king
The thing is none of them had a claim. They took it by the sword. But Boromir arrived first to King's landing and met Jaime Lannister who had just killed the mad king.
This. I don't get it. Robert knew how autistic his brother was. Why not make him hand and let him run shit.
Because no one wanted stannis in charge, banning brothels and autistically applying justice to things no one cared about.
Don't get me wrong, I like stannis as a character, but it's pretty obvious no one wanted him ruling.
lol no
That was Aerys the Mad M.O.
Jon was the Hand. The realm was calm and mostly unified through diplomacy and marriages after the war except for Iron Islander Black folk, and part of DorBlack folk
Please don't encourage the bookgays.
Bookgay here. Relax, I only come to these threads for BOOOOOAAAAARR and Maario Naharis
He's gone
WHERE ART THOU MAARIO MAHARIS
The first Baratheon of Storm's End was a black aired dude named Orys Baratheon, a general of Aegon. It was rumored it was a bastard brother of him from his father's mistress (silver hairs from the Targaryen can sometimes be recessive against dark airs. Between Orys and Jon we had other examples in history of dark aired pathernal targs)
Robert's strong claim wasnt from a 300 year old rumor. He had the strongest claim because his pathernal grandmother was a Targaryen princess, and so outside the Targs themselves he was the closer to the succession line
That, and the right of conquest, as he defeated the heir and de facto ruler of the Targaryens, prince Rhaegar, the lunatic rapist that made Lyanna fall in love with him to fullfill some bullshit prophecy
>rapist
Yes, he was. He knew Lyanna was promised to Robert, and he was married, but decide to seduce her anyway because he was sure she was the Ice and he was the Fire of the prophecy he read
He didnt do that for lust or just to abuse his power, he tought saving the world was worthy seduce a promised woman and betray his wife. But still, he likely didnt loved a random 15 years old he barely knew.
That is not rape
>Seducing a clueless 15 years old as a 25-something dude because you want and need to have sex with her isnt rape
>???
she agreed though
Still, he should had know that seducing her would had lead to a massive civil war
Even in the case he won, what was his plan? Execute half of the lord of the realms?
Why does he need to have a plan? He was in a loveless marriage and a pretty sad guy overall so him doing something dumb when he fell in love make sense. Pretty much all of the other characters do moronic shit that fricks everything up (Ned, Robb, Tyrion) but only Rhaegar gets a legion of fanfiction readers that can't stop talking about how hes the worst guy ever.
It's clear from the POV characters that told about him that it had nothing to do with love or boredom
He was obsessed with some prophecy he read as a nerdy boy, to the point the very same day he decided to start training with the sword and getting Cinemaphile, likely just because he considered himself a prophetized hero
Seducing Lyanna probably was the next step of the supposed prophecy plan he was tasked by Heaven to complete.
He was a schizo no different than his dad, brother, and sister
>It's clear from the POV characters that told about him that it had nothing to do with love or boredom
According to two lines he says in a dream sequence and one line from Barristan who even concedes that he never really understood Rhaegar. Characterizing him as solely obsessed with the prophecy is dumb, it would be like saying he was obsessed with land based on that one line he says to Jon Con.
cont.
Also apparently Elia knew about it and gave her concession for him to bang Lyanna.
The dude was obsessed about having three childrens, ranting about "the dragon needs three heads". Likely another part of his beloved prophecy that needed to complete
But Elia was frail and so a third pregnancy would had killed her. He needed another womb to hatch his third spawn.
>Even in the case he won, what was his plan? Execute half of the lord of the realms?
we at least know that he was going to do something to depose aerys, according to jaime, I kind of want to try and make a long post about it but at the same time I dont think it's gonna be worth it since most of it is gonna be just assumptions due to us not having the whole picture of everything
15y is the legal age in 1st world countries though?
Today sure, but this is medieval. And she consented. Holy frick in our actual history we traded 13 year olds for cattle
>nooooo Rhaegar can't just be a normal guy that fricked up really bad
>he has to be a heckin rapist because modern age of consent laws even though Lyanna was being forced into a marriage she didn't want with Robert anyway
>also hes obsessed with prophecy because of two lines he said about prophecy in a dream sequence
Rhaegar haters are moronic.
you're replying to bait
>implying the vitriol isn’t from Gurm playing the prophecy angle straight
I don't get why so many people think prophecies can't be real in asoiaf when theres that chapter where a woods witch predicts the red wedding and Balon's death.
Maybe its the “prophecy is a double-edged sword” dialogue
Does this person ignore that Jon has many signs that he is indeed the prince that was promised thus this would justify Rheagar.
>anime profile picture
Not reading
>spacebattles
lmao
Even worse than Cinemaphile.
>He better make a cameo in the new got show as a BOAR
CAREFUL NED, CAREFUL NOW!
He was a warrior not a king
He should have abdicated the throne to someone who could run Westeros or just divided up the country into city states
He did everything right
>dragon prostitute
>dead
>stark girl
>fricked by his own son
>lannisters
>gone
Yep, Bobby won.
>Bessie and her fat teats
>sucked
based bobby
Being obsessed with qt tomboy Lyanna instead of embracing having a hot wife Cersei. Had he at least tried to move on and stop whoring and calling his wife the wrong name in bed Cersei would have at least put out one true Baratheon child.
wait... Lyanna was fricking a targ and had his baby who is Jon. None of this story makes sense anymore. It's been too long.
its true and if we assume the book cersei is the same hotness as lena headey was then he was indeed a fool, a damn fool
Book cersei is an 11/10
Lena is ok. Not my type
there's no reason to think Bobby would have been monogamous with Lyanna, which is why his marriage with Cersei fell apart
We have many reasons to assume he wouldn't, really. He fricked bessy during the war to rescue Lyanna after all.
oh yeah. what a great guy
haven't watched the show but reading book 2 right now, good stuff
the show is shit, anon. Stick to the books.
You now have to choose between never getting an ending, or getting a shitty half assed one.
This
The books are shit, anon. Stick to the show.
ACOK was the best one.
I'm considering a reread.
Shit taste, how do you suffer through Theon chapters?
I didn't know what to expect, I went in blind back in the day, I finished ACoK before season 1 finished. In fact I finished it the day they showed Ned's beheading.
The setting and explanation / world building of the islands fascinated me.
Hot take. Try the audiobooks before the show.
The show is honestly worth watching. The first five seasons are so kino it makes the shitty ones worth it.
First four you mean
I hear this repeated a lot on the internet as gospel but I personally didn’t think the show was shit untill the 6th with the beyond the wall shit. What was bad in the 5th?
The entire Dorne storyline, Arya in Braavos, and Danny in Slaver's Bay. Those first 3 or 4 episodes that leaked early were traumatic to watch. One of the most profound dips in quality of any successful TV show ever.
Ok you guys were right. I forgot all of that was season 5. Damn season 5 was worse then 6.
>What was bad in the 5th?
BAD PUSSY DABID BAD PUSSY
Currently on Feast for Crows. Books are wayy better than the show, especially past Storm of Swords
He should have hunted a rabbit instead.
By not having all the Lannisters killed at the end of Robert's Rebellion.
should have killed prostitute before she got PREGNANT
I feel if he just killed Jamie cersei would be too butt hurt to think straight and advertise her moves due to being emotional.
Though realistically he could've avoided all this shit if he didn't kill a bunch of Motherfrickers over Ned's sister who clearly didn't want anything to do with him.
The rebellion was also over the Mad King killing Neds father and brother.
Aerys also clearly intended to kill Ned and Robert as well. Technically it was Jon Arryn who started Robert's rebellion by taking up arms and refusing to deliver his wards to the mad king
He let his wife get pregnant by her brother.
CARMELA CAN SHUT THE BOOOAR?
I like this. Well done.
absolutely daring
Never stick your dick in Lannister
ruling in the first place. he never wanted to do it. Arryn shouldn't have been such a cuck and just took the throne.
then his weak minded feeble son and his pyscho c**t wife would ruin the kingdom after he died
Nah, that would make Littlefinger king in all but in name. Now, how would he manage to take the throne officially for his own ego? Who knows.
>would make Littlefinger king in all but in name
Based. The Baelish Bailout would have saved Westeros.
yeah that's true, I forgot about littlefinger
Hoster Tulley would have made the best king, accomplished statesman and brilliant military commander with knowledge in all fields
Teaming up with Lannisters was always a ticking time bomb. He needed to work towards getting them out of the picture but he instead got complacent and was too drunk and lazy to notice them scheming around him.
He did not own any dogs.. Dumbass, that's not how you hunt boar.
real chads just need boar spear
Everyone knows you hunt boar from a helicopter.
you don't need dogs to hunt boar. You send your servants into the woods with sticks to track it, and then they spook it into running towards you and you cut it down.
Trips of truth
He should have given the realm to Stannis or someone who actually wanted the crown, went back to his castle and fathered 1000 bastards.
Likely Cersei and Jamie would have still fricked but Stannis would have caught onto it early and had them both killed. Tywin would declare war to save face while taking another bride to have children with asap, sacrifice a thousand or two men in a weak attack, then quietly tell Stannis Tyrion did the whole thing so he could get rid of the entire bad crop of children while having new ones.
Ned Stark would have had 5 more kids, dumped Jon at the wall to ensure he was bound to the black and couldn't try to take the throne.
Dany's entire story would probably be the same minus the assassination attempt and maybe she'd never hatch the dragons idk.
Robert hated Stannis and vice-versa.
Not hated. They just didn't love eachother
Correct. But end of the day Robert wanted to avenge his friends and go home. He didn't want to be king. He likely didn't expect to win.
And that was his mistake. It's true that Stannis is not a man easy to love but even Ned and Jon Snow respected him. I just hope he doesn't die on the books
Not exactly. Robert was seething at Stannis because of his "failure" of taking Dragonstone before the targ loyalists could escape Visery and the newborn Dany to the east
GODS
I WAS STRONG THEN
Being a hedonist and not caring about his family at all
What was the most stupid thing in the show for you?
I recently rewatched GoT and holy shit that north expedition to capture wraith idea was beyons moronic and the final nail to the coffin. Everything after was just on the same level of shit
Frick so many to say.
I gotta say two, when doran gets killed and when cersei blows up the chapel and no one bats an eye
>when doran gets killed
fricking dorne, how did they manage to frick it up so bad holy shit
>What was the most stupid thing in the show for you?
Off the top of my head? Tyrion's plan to go beyond the wall to retrieve a wight to prove to Cersei why she should help everyone.
And then Jon Snow, the literal ruler of Winterfell, risking his life to accomplish such idiotic task; Gendry running so fast he almost broke the sound barrier. Our heroes standing on a frozen lake, surrounded by white walkers and wights for hours (days?) without food, shelter or water.
And last but not least, Daenerys, risking her life's mission and her offspring to rescue a guy she just met a few weeks ago.
Like, what?
Yeah, the plan to go beyond the wall has to be the peak of the series in terms of stupidity.
I don't get how normalgays liked season 7, it was so fricking obvious that the show was going in a terrible direction, and that season 8 could only be worse.
I honestly think s6 left the show in a bad but salageble state, being slightly better than s5, but when season 7 aired I was ready to drop it, and only finished it because of how much time I had invested in the franchise.
>I don't get how normalgays liked season 7
I honestly don't know. I'm guessing alcohol has something to do with it.
>every man in that video pathetic
>but when season 7 aired I was ready to drop it, and only finished it because of how much time I had invested in the franchise.
I think that's true for many of us.
>I don't get how normalgays liked season 7
Believe it or not, it was a marginal improvement to seasons 5 and 6
This show had 1 (ONE) good season and it was the first
Do not watch past it
Just because they changed some stuff in a dumb way later does't make it bad.
Only season 5 finally jumped the shark and became bad, everything before was good.
>Only season 5 finally jumped the shark and became bad
That phrase doesn't mean what you think it means.
this
the show died with Tywin and making Barristan into a jobber in early Season 5
Season 3 is great you infidel
Charles Dance as Tywin Lannister was my favourite character so no.
Yes. Tyrion's whole plotline post s4 fails as well because D&D entirely miss the point. By ignoring the Tysha stuff they removed Tyrion's motivation to kill Tywin and later become a stunted ill-made spiteful creature. Since Dinklage was extremely popular they kept him as a protagonist which removed his role in the story.
>Charles Dance as Tywin Lannister was my favourite character so no.
He's in Season 1 too.
>it doesn't follow the books so it must be bad
The opinions of illiterates are of no consequence.
You would be right, generally speaking, but seeing what they did with Tyrion, the book version was much better, and it fit the character much more.
It was consistently good for 4 seasons
gods he was strong then so the only way to go was down
Simped for Lyanna, married Cerci.
marrying a lannister, then letting the lannisters grab power while he drank and prostituted
wtf was this all about?
It was supposed to mean that he is worried two targaryen are having sex for dramatic effect (for whatever reason), but it was filmed so awkwardly it seemed like Tyrion had a cuckhold fetish.
But...Tyrion didn't know Jon was a Targaryen yet...
>Tyrion had a cuckhold fetish.
my new headcanon
Murdered by a pig.
EASY NED, EASY NOW
Things would've probably turned out fine if he kicked Jaime to the curb with some hemming and hawing about how Tywin needs to have his heir start governing then porked Cersei until a black haired baby came out.
They did come out she murdered every one of them secretly.
she murdered a lot of bastards, but that was only an issue because Jaime was around to put three kids in her and they all came out blonde.
Pretty sure he was referring to the book where Cersei mentions at one point she made sure to take abortifacients when having sex with Robert
yeah that was what I was talking about. She made sure to hop off at the last minute most of the time but the one time he managed to get her pregnant she killed the baby in the crib.
She intentionally aborted Roberts trueborn kids whenever he knocked her up. A poor move since she could have given him a strong black haired son and no one would have said a thing about the rest.
She was a self-absorbed BPD narcissicist. If she had a kid that didn't look like her she probably would have killed it anyway
He thought winning and ruling was the same thing. He barley governed himself. But at least their was peace (or the closest thing to it) for most of his reign.
Was he based?
Almost was except for one moronic move
>Let me just antagonize several dozen hungry and tired men who just saw their friends massacred by ice demons and zombies
>Also half of them are convicted murderers and rapists and I have the only warm house with food and women for a hundred miles around
I'm not sure what Craster thought was going to happen
Maybe he secretly got off on the danger of it all. Flew too close to the sun and burned.
He was a stingy bastid
Should never have been king, he knew he was not fit for it
Dude was a warrior bot a leader. He could best anyone on the field, buy didn't know the first thing about ruling a country. He surrounded himself with conniving schemers and let himself get soft.
>He surrounded himself with conniving schemers and let himself get soft.
You can really blame arryn for that, he was the guy who actually governed. Not only he didn't oust pycelle immediatly, but he also literally gave littlefinger the postion, which to be fair, he had proven to be good at, but still.
Being an alcoholic. If he wasn't blind drunk all the time he would have remembered all the timed Cersei finished him with her mouth and realised his kids weren't his
Was it a bad place to be before everything started acting up?
It used to be a legitimate place. Lords would send one of their younger sons who would have no claims to inherit there, like Eddard's brother, and going to serve there was seen as honorable. Only in fairly recent times it became a cesspool for criminals.
AHHGGGG
HOOOOOOAAAAARRRR
kek I was waiting for this one
Not too bad considering he used to do Tesco adverts
Was she just moronic?
>Wants to be a man
>Can't handle male responsibilities
Just a normal woman given immense power
What do the Iron Islands actually do for the rest of the kingdom? Just seems like a bunch of raiders.
yes
So they are a welfare state?
Yeah they kill and steal while complaining that everyone else is at fault for it and they're owed better lands and wealth.
shit stained rocks
Man these guys sure have a lot of build up, I hope it amounts to something.
He didnt know how to juggle between corruption and control like Jon Arryn did.
In fact, Jon should be way more fleshed out in this shit series.
He's always mentioned in the books, but the show barely acknowledged the guy
>character is gay
>his bodyguards wear rainbow cloaks
A bit on the nose George.
Believe it or not, it wouldn't have been in the 90's
Why did everyone start wearing black all the time in the later seasons?
The colors were already toned down in season one compared to the books, they just got progressively more as the show went on.
BDSM Sansa was worth sitting through every cringe wiener joke.
What if Robert had Danaerys captured and married her to Stannis?
The infant Daenerys or the teen one?
When she comes of age, so 11 or whatever is normal
I mean that to ask whether this is an AU where she’s a hostage since birth or one where she’s captured after being raised by Viserys.
Either or, I suppose. She was pretty meek either way.
Just play the GoT mod for CK2 and find out
Imagine marrying a Baratheon princess
Any recent pics of Shireen?
Please dont post a burning victim
Yeah but posting them attracts the wrath of jannies
Why did they do it?
Because they are going to win Winterfell. The pink letter is bullshit, Stannis is going to beat the Boltons
A Feast for Crows is one of the better books and I'm tired of pretending that it isn't
everything but the ironbabby and Dorne stuff is great
What was his endgame?
To serve his weird god.
>Cinemaphile promised the roose would be let loose
>the roose never got loose
I don’t understand why the character has so many fans. There are many more effective villains in the series.
Like whom?
It's because people thought he'd be like in the books, which is smart and pretty creepy. Instead they made him some weird, generic loser who knows his bastard is psychotic, doesn't care if Ramsay kills his kids, and for some reason never suspected Ramsay would kill him (yea right)
What's funny is that in the books Roose always wears chainmail underneath his clothes (like he does at the red wedding in the show) and yet they still had him not do it in the show for convenience sake so that Ramsay can nothin personnel him
>r*msay goes for le shocking sudden kill
>*clink*
>look of shock on his face
>roose gives a cold smirk
>gets dragged away by bolton guards
>thrown into a cell with his hungry hounds
>cut to black
>"And who are you..."
I'll take my writer's check now
He failed to introduce Dothraki men for the purpose of interracial breeding.
Stallman-sama.........
The most unrealistic thing in this story is that Robert waited fifteen years to ask what the previous king's last words were.
>Where did he go wrong?
When he neglected his wife instead of at least doing his duty. I mean, she was still hot in the beginning. She probably wouldn't have been as sour about the prostitutes if he also fricked her regularly. Then he knew the Lannisters were up to no good and he just went along with it because he thought they didn't have the balls
In the late 00s there was a (now banned) thread on westeros.org before trannies started moderating there statyed by a woman saying exactly that but regarding eating her pussy once a month
He became king.
He hated it so much that he became a fat alcoholic. And in a vain effort to relive the glory days he got himself killed while fighting a pig.
What did Cersei do really? Frick her brother? Robert was fricking prostitutes. Got Robert drunk? He did that himself.
For all the CK2 AGOT chads here, a very kind anon from /vst/ merged a bunch of AGOT mods into one mod file.
https://gitlab.com/Methaneus/merged_agot
Forgot to link thread
More important, when is CK3 getting the full mod.
When he set his eyes on Lyanna. She never wanted him.
But really, when he sat on the throne. Both him and Ned don't have the brains to rule. Tywin should've been placed on the throne under supervision.
As usual, Ciaran was the most kino.
I really hate that they never did his arc, fricking hell
also Ciaran is a kino actor but I dont see him as Mance, he really needed his bard clothes to see if he could fit the character
An ok character in his own right but nothing like the books.
true
I really hope he makes it out alive in the books, it'd be nice if he gave jon his cloak
Close
>Continually fricks up in the war against the Lannisters
>Practically all of his family dead or murdered
>Even gets captured by his enemies (multiple times)
>Gets out of it without being tortured or mutilated
>Keeps his ancestral lands and titles
>Has a cute and loving wife who bears him a healthy son to carry on his legacy
How did he do it bros?
>fricks up war against the Lannisters
this was robb's fault for not telling him the plan
It's amazing how often things go awry in this series because of this. I get that information is sensitive but still. Doran is by far the worst culprit in this regard.
>WINDS, you say? Yes, still working. Finally finished a clutch of Cersei chapters that were giving me fits. Now I am wrestling with Jaime and Brienne. The work proceeds, though not as fast as many of you would like.
>THE WINDS OF WINTER is going to be a big book. The way it is going, it could be bigger than A STORM OF SWORDS or A DANCE WITH DRAGONS, the longest books in the series to date. I do usually cut and trim once I finish, but I need to finish first.
https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/
Hmm, GRRM just updated and claims to still be working slowly on WoW
fat moron i hope he dies
Wow... it's nothing.
>Finally finished a clutch of Cersei chapters that were giving me fits.
fits of diarrhea lmao fat frick
It's never gonna come out
LMAO
An estranged cousin I haven't seen in quite a few years named his daughter "Khaleesi" before the last few seasons of this show. If I ever meet him again I don't know if I'd be able to resist making fun of him and his child.
He married a woman because he father was powerful then it bit him in the ass. I wouldn't be surprised the the lanasiters planned his death before the wedding even started