Where Did It All Go Wrong?

>Hours from a new Doctor Who trailer.
>First series of a whole new RTD era
>Moffat back writing a bottle episode
>They fricked things up so bad, literally no one cares.
>Not even the woke twats.

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I thought this shit got canned

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it literally was cancelled
      they used COVID-related scheduling shit as an excuse but the last Jodie Whittaker season almost didn't happen, and when it did it was for a half the episode count of the other seasons
      they announced RTD was coming back before Jodie's last season had even aired
      the new RTD-era has moved production from the BBC to a 3rd-party studio, meaning that by the time they officially announced it they had already completely voided any contracts related to the current staff and cast and production facilities, and the public announcement was 3 fricking months before Jodie's final season premiered
      this is also why the season numbering has been reset since it's now legally a new show just like the 2005 revival was compared to the original run

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the last Jodie Whittaker season almost didn't happen
        If only

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, Davies contacted the BBC about doing something for the 50th in late '21 and he was asked about taking over in early 22. He says in Doctor Who Magazine that Disney plus deal was in the works before he got on board. He was worried if he said no they'd give it to someone incompetent who'd ruin it.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >He was worried if he said no they'd give it to someone incompetent who'd ruin it.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >gay Black Doctor
    shan't and ding

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    his jacket is kino af

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    These people are insane and don't care about anything than jerking off to pornography and propagating evil in the world.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it might not be any good, but at least it's brave

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't forget the morbius doctors and the timeless children

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wait, the Master was a Doctor regeneration? Just that version or all of them?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The plot of that episode was the Master forcing the Doctor to regenerate into him

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          no, the master made the doctor regenerate into him

          ....what?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        no, the master made the doctor regenerate into him

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The plot of that episode was the Master forcing the Doctor to regenerate into him

          I've been able to follow Doctor Who's timey-wimey bullshit, but that makes zero sense.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            [...]
            ....what?

            There was a device that let someone force a timelord to regenerate into a body of the user's choice. The Master used it on the Doctor to replace her with himself. It was just as moronic as it sounds.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              So Doctor Who becomes the Master? So there's 2 Masters running around? Does he also copy his personality too? I can't see what purpose this would serve in a story other than to be confusing.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah it copied everything, they played it like the doctor literally became the master. Eventually it got reversed.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm afraid to ask, but what was the moral, or even the point, of this story?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I’ll assume a rape metaphor.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              but I...just..so the mastar forced the doctor to regenerate into a copy of the master, two of them? or that is where the master begins and all the other regenerations of him follow on from that point?

              I gave up on chinballs era pretty early on, not because it was a woman or too woke or anything, because it was just really fricking dull and I got bored, but this sounds next level bad even by doctor who's moron standards.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Holy shit I thought 5 6 and 7 were the same person. I stopped watching after 4 then picked up watching at 9 and stopped watching a few episodes into 13 because every episode was worse than a bad 12 episode which was only about 50% watchable.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I stopped watching during Capldi what the frick did they do? Jesus Christ.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    capaldi was the final doctor. everything after was just shitty fanfiction

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      true

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The original is the only who looks trustworthy

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you forgot john hurt moron

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >4 looks like he is trying to fight to contain a fart
        >5 looks like a smug dick
        >8 looks like a moby dick extra
        >9 looks like someone that would frick your mom
        >10 looks like 9 fricked his mom
        >11 looks like 10's half brother
        >Capaldi looks like the disapproving aunt of 11 and 10's mom any time 9 visits due to partial custody

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Capaldi's last episode was shitty fanfiction too. The Doctor Falls is the ending and would've been the ending if a successor showrunner hadn't been chosen at the last minute.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Should've shown him regenerating into Tom Baker and taking the TARDIS to the museum

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If we ever gain control of the Dr Who IP, the new season will begin with Capaldi's regeneration speech and him transforming into a new British white male Doctor

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Moffat is stuck running the show several years after he burnt out on it
        >finally manages to firm his departure and line up a successor in Chibnall
        >at the last minute, Chibnall says "hmm, I need an extra year to prep my run, could you do one last bit before I come in?"
        >instead of leaving on the highpoint of World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls, we get a half-arsed Xmas special where Moffat turns the First Doctor into a doddering old sexist and casts Mark Gatiss as the Brigadier's father
        >then Chibnall ditches the Christmas special anyways

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >then Chibnall ditches the Christmas special anyways
          people forget about this but I can't reiterate it enough
          Moffat did what he did in order to preserve DW's primetime slot on Christmas that they'd had for a decade
          first thing Chinball did when he took over was announce that he was giving up the spot for multicultural reasons and moving it to New Years
          frick Chinball

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Doctor Falls is where it ended

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      To me, Tennant was the last real Doctor. Smith and Capaldi both had their moments, but both were let down by other bad characters and shitty plots. You could feel the drastic tone-shift when Smith started.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >You could feel the drastic tone-shift when Smith started.
        ..that was intentional. every new doctor created a drastic tone shift

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Except there wasn't really one going from Ecclestone to Tennant, and not one going from Smith to Capaldi.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Because Tennant was riding out Eccleston’s plotlines since he left early. Tennant’s stuff really starts with Donna, arguably after the Stolen Earth.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            As someone who watched the behind the scenes stuff during the 2011 era, Chris’ departure wasn’t treated with the same vibe because it was only 1 season and the show hadn’t found a groove that they were confident could retain viewership after changing tones. it was finding its footing and they weren’t confident it could survive a new Tardis, new aesthetic and new doctor after a single season.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Except there wasn't really one going from Ecclestone to Tennant
            true but that's because rtd wasn't really sure what exactly tennant's overall vibe was supposed to be like until series 4
            >and not one going from Smith to Capaldi.
            lolololo hahaahahah what? the tonal whiplash from smith to capaldi is insane
            the things i read on this site man

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Moffat says on Confidential I think for Eleventh Hour that early on in the production meetings for Series 5 they realised how much behind the scenes stuff was actually changing, Russell had gone, Julie had Gone, Tranter had gone, Colinson had gone, both Tennant and Tate had gone together, and they decided it was pointless pretending they were making the show. He asked Davies what he thought he should keep (returning locations, characters) and what he thought he should change (titles, et) and Davies told him to change everything, start over, so he did.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Except there wasn't really one going from Ecclestone to Tennant, and not one going from Smith to Capaldi.

        moffat's run had issues but his characterization of the doctor was always strong, 11 and 12 are easily among the best doctors. and there was a huge tonal shift between them, what are you on about m8

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Smith's era moved with the times. Chav culture was out, hipster culture is in. I know a lot of people grew up with Tennant, myself included and its hard to see the faults, but Smith's stuff on the whole is way more consistent. Less huge highs but there's nothing near as low as Long Game or Fear Her.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Long Game
          >Low
          moron, outside of the Jagrafess looking really bad the overall story is pretty good. Both the Davies and Moffat eras had about the same amount of misses.

          Davies era with Who, TW and SJA you had
          >Tooth and Claw
          >The Idiot's Lantern
          >Love & Monsters
          >Fear Her
          >The Shakespeare Code
          >The Lazarus Experiment
          >42
          >The Next Doctor
          >Planet of the Dead
          >Day One
          >Cyberwoman
          >Sleeper
          >From Out of the Rain
          >Miracle Day

          Moffat's era
          >Victory of the Daleks
          >Vampires of Venice
          >Curse of the Black Spot
          >Let's Kill Hitler
          >Night Terrors
          >Closing Time
          >Wedding of River Song
          >The Doctor, The Widow and the Wardrobe
          >Dinosaurs on a Spaceship
          >The Crimson Horror
          >Nightmare in Silver
          >Kill the Moon
          >In the Forest of the Night
          >Sleep No More
          >Empress of Mars
          >The Eaters of Light
          >Class

          Characterisation wise then Smith and Capaldi are no worse than Eccleston and Tennant but the arcs of series 5, 6 & 7 absolutely turned into a clusterfrick by the end and alienated a lot of viewers, his individual stories for the most part are consistently great but all the series arc bollocks on top of that brings them down below the Davies era arcs that were far less integral. I'd say it'd be Eccleston > Tennant > Capaldi < Smith for most consistent, nothing against Smith as an actor I love his Doctor but his era definitely suffered the most (until Chibbers).

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >but all the series arc bollocks
            That turned me off of Capaldi's era. They were stretching plots out to 3-5 episodes. Even if the story was good, it always dragged on too long and wound up shatting the bed.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Class aside I'd sooner rewatch all of Moffat's list than anything on RTD's except Love and Monsters which I guiltily enoy.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      In retrospect its honestly amazing how fricking good Capaldi's run turned out. Yeah some plots from a logic standpoint were shitty but character wise it was so kino. Nailing 11th with Matt Smith was pretty easy cause all you had to do was create arcs about the Doctor learning to be a full on hero again.

      But with that being done, there was so much going against 12th, yet they still nailed it. Making him go through the process of learning that saving others still won't make him content or happy with his existence as a whole and challenging him to take the hard decisions was so good. His Zygon speech where he tells a terrorist extremist alien race to frick off and stop being crybabies and just live with their own consequences is something that geniunenly cannot be written at all anymore due to social politics.

      12th was the last and one of the best doctors.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Based and true, especially since he's my favorite Doctor

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Capaldi's last episode was shitty fanfiction too. The Doctor Falls is the ending and would've been the ending if a successor showrunner hadn't been chosen at the last minute.

      >Mofgays need to arbitrarily pretend TUAT never existed to barely salvage their era
      this will never not be funny

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Capaldi sucks more than he doesn't suck, I'd be fine with cutting him out of the picture and ending with 11, 12, 13 whatever the hell Matt Smith was.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nah Capaldi did have a fair few stinker scripts but he carried it with his performance, arguably the best characterization given to the Doctor since the classic series. and his best episodes (Heaven Sent, WEAT/TDF) are some of the best in the series. he's a net positive overall.
        he's better than Smith too, Smith also gave a great performance but his run is way less consistent. the back half of Series 6 & Series 7 are a drag.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Capaldi never had anything as bad as Tennant's first series

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          S2 is weird. It has arguably the lowest lows of RTD era and probably nuWho overall (Idiots Lantern and Fear Her come to mind) but it also has some of the best like Girl in the Fireplace* and the Impossible Planet two-parter.

          * Yeah I know Moffat repeated the gimmick with Amy and it got old fast but it worked well in that episode

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I remember watching the Impossible Planet as my first episodes of Doctor Who.
            That spoiled me a bit rotten at the time, if I only knew when to savor and how good we had it.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Where did it all go wrong

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He turned out to be a pedophile too

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Was he the one Saville said was way up there?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Checked but I don’t know about pedo, he liked twinks for sure and I think he steered DW from boys action-adventure into “cult sci-fi” territory specifically so he could frick impressionable young men at nerd conventions

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    trailer:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhL5ihOUUcs

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >haha mavity lol!!
        >haha she stepped on a butterfly and now the human race is different LOL
        RTD needs to frick off with this stupid shit
        This is the shit I expect from a Treehouse of Horror segment not Doctor Who

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For me, it's Classic Who

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The beginning of the end was Jodie Whitaker. Bringing Tennant back and moving to a paid channel instead of public broadcast also fricked it up. Now we literally have gay Black folk from out of space locked behind yidsney+. The show is fricked, but at least they'll get a lot of tweets which is what really matters.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The biggest thing that stinks about the move to Disney+ is that they're going to be dropping the episodes at midnight GMT just so that the USA can get it at 6pm their time the day before. For god's sake, it's our fricking show.
      The Americans have never been all that interested in Doctor Who, and no matter how hard RTD and Disney wish otherwise, I really doubt that's going to change now.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Women and gays and now trannies. Sums its up. When it was a show for boys it was peak, now its just a vehicle for woke crap.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Boycott BBC. They’re actively participating in white genocide.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Watch the new trailer
    >Tennant is in it
    Frick me they really cannot fricking leave him in the past can they

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He's the Tom Baker of NuWho. And much like Baker, he's the only thing holding it afloat.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Classic Who didn't bring back Baker every few years though
        Literally the first time he returned was after the cancellation in 1993.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Classic Who didn't bring back Baker every few years though
          Because he didn't want to. Dude hated the job towards the end of his run. Too many shit stories.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            nah he wanted to stay but all the producers were getting fed up with him wanting to run the show. he dug his own grave.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Classic Who didn't bring back Baker every few years though
        Literally the first time he returned was after the cancellation in 1993.

        The Troughton of nu-Who would be a more apt comparison since he returned for The Three Doctors, The Five Doctors and The Two Doctors. He's the second Doctor of nu-Who too for added coincidence.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous
  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly, I heard that new Doctor speak once, and I was like "nah".
    An aggressively gay man with an African accent. Nah, that's not Dr Who. Sorry. It's just not.
    Better luck next time around.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The annoying thing is that there's so many fanmade black versions of the Doctor that actually work and have infinetly cooler designs and vibes. All they had to do was literally copy one of those and then give it to a competent actor.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Unironically Idris Elba.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cam Winston from Fraiser, for instance

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    BlackRock must be stopped.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Boycott BBC

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the woke cult is parasitic, they latch onto things that have life and suck it dry then move on to a new host.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's best to read the novelizations for Classic Who since most of it didn't age well at all. Actually, it was just assy back then too thanks to the pennies they had for a budget.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      shitty list tbqh

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Shitty taste to be honest.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Vincent and the Doctor
      reddit list
      that episode is a snoozefest that people only remember for the emotional bait in the last 5 minutes. anybody who puts this in their top episodes can have their opinion safely discarded

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because wokeism isn't about holding social territory. It's about depleting it of any value so you don't want it back, and moving on to ruin new territory.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Doctor Who is SAVED, chud!
    BEST CASTING EVER!
    So excited!!!!!

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I pity the ones finding about doctor who today. I heard about it on the end of Tennant's run and couldn't stand Capaldi's run leaning on "the message", and it got way, way worse with the female doctor. Any non-brit doc is not canon for me.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the female Doctor was the least leftist of the new series though.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How not?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          have you actually watched NuWho before?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If you mean from Eccelston, on, I've seen all except Capaldi's last. Saw the first few eps of the chick doctor. How was hers the least leftist of them all?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If you mean from Eccelston, on, I've seen all except Capaldi's last. Saw the first few eps of the chick doctor. How was hers the least leftist of them all?

          people convinced themselves early on that it HAD to be political just because of the female Doctor, so they applied double standards.
          there's a Rosa Parks episode, but it actually follows established history instead of rewriting it. there's a Trump caricature, but it never gets punished unlike Harriet "Thatcher" Jones that 10 fricking deposed becase she DARED to defend her country, etc. the message is more direct and less coated in sci-fi metaphors, but ultimately it's weaker. most of the examples are in S11 but overall the density of "political" episodes is lower than in the previous eras.
          in addition the Doctor being female means she can actually command her own companions and doesn't need to justify herself, unlike previous Doctors which lived only to obey the orders of their respective Mary-Sues, which were always THE MOST IMPORTANT COMPANION and the Doctor's moral compass because of course the fricking Doctor doesn't know what's morally good or wrong unless a human girl tells him so.
          NuWho is so shit that the Doctor had to become a woman to finally stop getting neutered.

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Adult Doctor Who fans are the most pathetic people on earth. It's a middling sci-fi show for little children. If you're not a child or an adult bemusedly watching with your own children, stop.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bit rich coming from David Mitchell who guest starred in Doctor Who himself

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I was with you until you cited a fricking David Mitchell video.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He's a typical midwit icon but he's not wrong.
      You're meant to watch it as a child and then watch it with your children, an adult by themselves aren't going to get much out of it.

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    One thing I do prefer about RTD is he doesn't care about pandering to US audiences. There is no way in hell Moffat would centre a companion's opening ep around the host of ITV's Long Lost Families.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      RTD is so tacky for a man that literally went to Oxford. Moffat went to some mid rank Scottish uni and writes way more artsy stuff.

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As someone who has never watched this troony show, Eccleston is the only guy who has ever played the doctor who looks remotely not like a homosexual.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      True fact.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      capaldi is cool

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They should have just milked the quest for Gallfrey storyline for 10 years like they did with the time war. Instead they rushed it and ruined it with Clara´s death and the hybrid for whatever reason and then proceeded to take a big dump on the floor and use the shit to drift for some reason...

    I mean, seriously, it was right there on a silver platter, and they could have even gotten away with a female Doctor thanks to Michelle Gomez doing such a great Missy/ Master but no, they just couldn´t just slow down or slam the breaks. They had to give the show to an unskilled showrunner and a inexperienced writing team that don´t know what subtext and subtlety mean.

    But hey, water under the bridge, that was like 10 years ago already.

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Doctor Who (both Classic and Nu pre-Chibnall) was an anthology show centred around what is basically a clever dick British guy, typically accompanied by a cute female companion, who went about adventures where he saved the day. It was a family show in that it could be watched by all ages and had a wide appeal: without understanding any complexity young children could watch it and get excited; often there were things that adults could pickup on that went deeper/beyond what kids would, and besides even they could just enjoy it for the pulpy fun it could be; Americans could find it quirky; boys found the Doctor to be a role model; companions gave teenage boys some of their early wankbank material; with NuWho teenage girls and young women would self-insert as the companion; the show was pretty inoffensive so unless they were part of the Mary Whitehouse brigade then grandma's could watch it; etc. etc.

    It went wrong, like so many things, when the people working on it stopped giving the audience what they wanted. Making the Doctor female was the end, for: 1) it was very much a decision that did not have meaningful audience support (the hardcore fanbase was strongly divided on it, and the general audiences were that type of casual indifference that translates to actually not supporting it when you get down to it); 2) they did frick all with the change, which just showed that the change was done as nothing more to get easy progressive brownie points; and 3) in the typical fashion the BBC and the media attacked the people who complained, which just enraged them even more and if anything just pushed people on the fence into siding against the show.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >NuWho is an anthology show
      watch the show first then go back to

      [...]

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's an anthology show in the sense that it can go from one story being some gothic horror inspired mystery set in Victorian England, to next story being about the Doctor dealing with renegade robots in the future, to the next story being about the Doctor basically being John Steed in contemporary Britain dealing with an evil organisation and so and so.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yes but in all of them the companion girl has to get captured and/or be always right.

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They started up again in 2005, that's what went wrong.
    This shit is deader than dead and only exists as a spout for unhinged psychopath liberals.

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Where did it all go wrong?
    Series 10.

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >gay showrunner (even in Classic) is fine
    >every white girl companion bar one being a coalburner is fine
    >Tony Blair's government being secretly controlled by a family of fat criminal Tori- I mean "aliens" who want to sell Britain for money is fine
    >omnisexual male companion making explicit sexual jokes in a 2005 kids' show and kissing the male Doctor several times is fine
    >the Doctor deposing the female British PM because she has dared to defend her country by herself against Argent- I mean "aliens" is fine
    >thinly veiled reference to oral sex with a humanoid concrete slab in a 2006 kids' show is fine
    >every other girl companion being THE MOST IMPORTANT COMPANION the Doctor literally cannot live without is fine
    >black girl companion is fine
    >Obama 100% unironically going to solve the 2009 financial crisis even for Britain is fine
    >literal Black Kween of England is fine
    >condoning Scotland's independence is fine
    >multiple "MUH STRONK WOMEN" regularly slapping and chastising the Doctor is fine
    >the Doctor directly asking President Nixon to allow a white gay male FBI agent to marry a black man in 1969 America is fine
    >making sex-change regeneration canon is fine

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >mutant daughter of a British fully-white couple turning fully-black is fine
      >Victorian interspecies lesbian married couple with manlet servant who gets constantly ridiculed for his martial demeanour is fine
      >random rude teenage black girl becoming the first woman on the Moon with no effort just to humor her, thus beating to it a fully trained and entitled white woman who doesn't even complain, oh-and-btw-she's-gonna-become-POTUS-too is fine
      >female Master is fine
      >black female Time Lord immediately demeaning her sole old white man incarnation right after his death with a general misandrist remark is fine
      >black lesbian companion is fine
      >small vegan lectures and reminders throughout a series is fine
      >blackwashing past History and having the Doctor validating it is fine
      >punch a racist is fine
      >extreme capitalism in space causing the Doctor to become blind is fine
      >ridiculing the First Doctor for his patriarchy is fine

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Other than Chibnall who realistically could have been showrunner?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nobody because giving the show a "showrunner" has always been a gigantic mistake. there was no shworunner in Classic and that's why it lasted 26 seasons without shooting himself in the foot every five years and losing a third of its audience each time just so that one guy can write whatever he wants without filter.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >there was no shworunner in Classic
        there basically was, the rotating script editors basically had the same impact on the show as today's showrunners do, and it did effect the show in the same way. watch how things change in Tom's era when JNT takes over and slowly runs the show into the ground. the only reason modern Who has a showrunner is because they are imitating that model

        but yeah I agree it's an antiquated concept they need to ditch

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >there basically was, the rotating script editors basically had the same impact on the show as today's showrunners do
          name three who lasted even half as long as this frick face

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the script editor was (theoretically) forbidden to write (or at least get credited) for the show. he could only rewrite stories submitted by others. and the script editor was no producer, so he had no say on which stories ultimately get produced, nor on the final product.
          >JNT slowly runs the show into the ground
          he was producer, not script editor. do you even know what you're talking about? also early JNT ratings (including S22) were fine until Michael Grade unilaterally decided to kill then sabotage the show.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      probably Toby Whithouse, he had some experience as a show creator and had a passable record of episodes (The Good Complex was really good)

      Mark Gatiss gets thrown around a lot too but imo he would have been just as bad as Chibnall, his episodes are really mediocre. Maybe he would be better as a showrunner but I doubt it.

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    even if you hate Moffat, 11/Series 5 was a good 'standalone' series if you don't care to ask about the "Silence" hook/ending that it landed on, but enjoyed at least the full circle season plot

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      too bad it ends on a bootstrap deus ex machina coming out from nowhere and the sonic being able to open the Pandorica in 2 seconds.

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Every white woman is getting dicked down by a black guy in this show. All of them. Showrunner is a massive cuck.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Amy Pond isn't

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oh you mean the bawd who tried to cheat on her the night before her wedding?

  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is your reminder that there will be a gay subplot for the Doctor in the new series.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      source?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The fact that the scene in that pic from the trailer features the Doctor dancing with that guy before looking seductively into each other's eyes as the other guests watch in surprise.
        The fact that the actor playing that guy is Jonathan Groff who in addition to being an actor is also a prominent LGTV4K+ activist.
        The fact that people who've worked on the show have explicitly stated Gatwa will be the first gay Doctor.
        The fact that Gatwa himself came out as gay (or "queer", however the frick that is different) like a year ago.
        The fact that RTD has been fairly open about how he wants to make the Doctor gay and tried to do so in his original run but was vetoed by the BBC.
        The fact that RTD is basically using Gatwa's Doctor as a self-insert (like the scene where he meets Ruby in a nightclub, is basically the same as the story of how RTD met his husband)
        The fact that they've already been hinting at it with shit like webm related.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Don't forget how Gatwa was hired because RTD has a creepy raceplay fetish

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Frick off moron if you actually cared about classic you wouldn't keep spamming that moronic image with Baker in it, man is the shittiest Doctor next to only fricking Jodie and a horrible horrible person irl. Pertwee or gtfo.

  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    when you listen to people who aren't your audience who don't watch it anyways
    casting a female doctor and now a black doctor is terrible
    turning the show into a fairy tale is terrible

  38. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I was 14-years-old, living in Munich when that remake of Doctor Who came out in 2000, and the only reason I watched a couple episodes was because I was hoping Piper would be nude or something.

    I was hoping for more Lexx, but I didn't get it.

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