Where did this medieval army get mass produced uniforms? Posted on March 18, 2023 by Anonymous Where did this medieval army get mass produced uniforms?
you already made this thread, and u got your answers
Op once again is proved to be a homosexual who sucks cocks
Not OP; you need to get a life.
>beginning in the 15th century
>The 1400's aren't medieval
Then neither is GOT since it's literally just the war of the roses
moron, GoT had it's characters wear everything form 12th century chainmail and hauberks to 16th century plate armour.
that article is very short, has only 6 sources and the central claim, that plate armour was mass produced as 'munition armour', is in a paragraph without a single footnote
>cheap, plain, mass-produced armour
>did not appear in England until after the time period emulated in Game of Thrones
>this is the same as the incredibly ornate Lannister armour
If they really had infantry equipped like that they would have no fucking competition if they decided to just take the throne by force.
"Munition armor" is neither a period term nor concept.
astapori not braavosi
Movies and shows in a "Medieval" setting are always just set in the renaissance but without the invention of gunpowder
why did mods take down the other medieval thread? cocksuckers
The dragons made it or the magic red hair lady's best friend
Tywin Lannister and his house were ahead of his time.
Joffrey was actually the one who suggested a modern standing army, but he was shot down by Tywin (or Cersei? I don't remember)
it seems like a no brainer good innovation but look up how the early modern new model army usurped the parliamentarians because they couldn't pay for such a grand project even that late in the game
Then again, the majority of England's enemies were overseas.
Well yeah. centralizing power was the goal of every leader in history, it was only logistical/administrative constraints that prevented it.
More technology and infrastructure made it gradually easier and easier and now its the default.
The Lannister pay their debts. Lots of coin to go around.
>mass produced uniforms?
They didn't have mass produced uniforms. They had uniforms which were produced by a large number of local smiths, and they probably varied a lot in shape and construction. Bigger smitheries in big cities probably had a more consistent quality and funding, but for the most part medieval armies were a mishmash of local armor with a uniform tabard.
why has the world of ice and fire seemingly stagnated and had no significant technological progression in thousands of years?
because Gurm is a hack who is completely incapable of worldbuilding
In regards to what? If you look at classical Greeks and 14th century Europeans there isn't that big a difference. In fact you could make the case that the Greeks were further ahead in some ways.
>pop culture understanding of history
lmao. 2000 years and no difference in technology? moron are you serious?
the level of organization, manufacturing, warfare or even agriculture, of any eastern european duchy at the time would blow the classical greek city states out of the water.
>ancient greece: no iphones
>14th century europe: no iphones
literally the same thing
>the level of organization, manufacturing, warfare or even agriculture, of any eastern european duchy at the time would blow the classical greek city states out of the water.
Like what? Not even trying to argue I genuinely don't know.
I'm more interested in how the Great Houses have been more or less in power for thousands of years (Starks especially) and yet there seem to be only a handful left.
How the fuck are the Stark's/Baratheon's so close to extinction? Have we had several generations of single sons?
Because The Order of the Maesters, ironically enough, supress and hoard knowledge with their shitty practises. Technological advancement has happened but it has happened in spite of them.
The Order's rites and social stigma prevent them from getting access to Westeros's best and brightest, since it's regarded as a dumping ground for second sons, distant cousins and weak heirs. Their dependency on the aristocracy for labor and privileges also prevents them from encouraging social mobility, since poor maesters largely join for food and shelter and are notably disadvantaged compared to the wealthier students who come for the knowledge and education but rarely take up the chain.
Ironically, they are also a strongly anti-intellectual organization. All evidence suggests that the maesters are not interested in new knowledge, only in finding and hoarding existing knowledge. This makes them effective historians and advisers but rather poor scientists. The few maesters who do show interest in learning things that are not yet known (Aemon, Marwyn and Qyburn) are shunned (though the order seems to have been right to shun Qyburn, given his Frankenstein-Mengele tendencies). In particular they seem to be actively trying to stamp out magic, and Marwyn claims that they were responsible for killing the last dragons.
According to Archmaester Marwyn, the Citadel hates magic and the way it fails to follow hard-and-fast rules, and after the Dance of the Dragons caused the deaths of most of the Seven Kingdoms' dragons, they were responsible for finishing them off by poisoning them to prevent healthy offspring. This is why Aemon Targaryen was never allowed to rise as high in their ranks as he should have based on ability, and Marwyn fears that they will want to assassinate Daenerys Targaryen, since bringing dragons back to the world also increases the strength of magic. Beyond that, they've encouraged skepticism about all things beyond the mundane in the Seven Kingdoms to the degree where it's unhealthy, with very real magical creatures and spells now commonly believed to either never have existed at all or be consigned to the past. Even before the Others started coming back, the maesters claimed that, for example, giants were extinct, which any wildling could tell you was false.
>they seem to be actively trying to stamp out magic, and Marwyn claims that they were responsible for killing the last dragons.
i feel like this is somewhat based.
magic is a dark, unnatural art, a fickle friend and almost universally requires blood sacrifice.
dragons on the other hand allowed a family of complete lunatics to rule the seven kingdoms undisputed for hundreds of years. they remove any need to be a better politician, commander or economist than your enemies, because you simply have dragons
There are plenty of examples of people in our own history that stagnated for thousands of years. Why is this so hard to believe?
Hard mode: Not some isolated tribe with no exposure to the outside world
+ this is literally the entire world we're talking about, not a single civilisation of culture
GRRM talks a lot about tax policies and subprime lending in Westeros, but what of the biological details of the different species in his fantastical world? What were the evolutionary pressures that resulted in dragons, some so huge that flying would be aerodinamically impossible? What are the main bacterias, or the mating rituals of krakens? Do the male dragons eat the offspring of rival dragons, one by one in their little dragon cribs?
he's a hack who just wanted a quotable zinger that made him look very smart. he doesn't discuss tax policy beyond the most juvenile "the poor people have to pay more tax to fund the war and yet they are the ones suffering from it!!!" shit
Every time taxation comes up in the books, it's always about taxing brothels ("hehe le cock tax").
It happens in the main saga (ASOIAF) and in Fire & Blood too. GRRM has no idea what real medieval taxation entailed.
I like the books for their characters but the setting is so trite and GRRM's understanding of the Middle Ages is surface-level.