Which one of these two was worse?

Which one of these two was worse?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the Batman Who Laughs

    Ross Hulk was more interesting after Loeb stopped writing him

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Batkek by far.

      If you want a more balanced comparison, pick someone like Knull.

      Batkek is the end result of Batwank and Jokerwank
      Red Hulk's first few arcs were dumb fun at worst

      Cool brand loyalty, bro.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Are you a fan of batkek or what?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >how dare you not like Marvel

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No one gives a shit if you like marvel or not moron

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Dude, Batkek is one of the worst and more pushed comic characters of all time. I honestly can't think of one character that was pushed that hard, and yet was total shit.

            This is a battle between 2 cosmic level beings that are canonically stronger than anything else to ever be in a DC comic.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >This is a battle between 2 cosmic level beings that are canonically stronger than anything else to ever be in a DC comic
              So what? That's a cool splash page, I'll grant you, but try telling a compelling story about it.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I hate Batkek but I don't know why Cinemaphile gets so pissy about this page in particular.
              >lmao it looks silly how he's hiting her with the planet XD
              First, don't you guys want more campy shit like your favorite Silver Age stuff? Second, giant things interacting with planets is always going to be silly to an extent, but I appreciate the attempt to show a battle of this scale regardless.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I hate Batkek but I don't know why Cinemaphile gets so pissy about this page in particular.
                It's just a lame fight when you compare it to other cosmic level battles. This is basically a slap fight.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              This is just plain awesomesauce you morons hate fun

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >how dare you not like Marvel

        Haha oh wow.

        Such a complete lack of self-awareness.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you sound like a fricking sped

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        seething DCuck

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Batkek by far.

    If you want a more balanced comparison, pick someone like Knull.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I wonder if anybody will ever bother trying to bring him back

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        didn't Carnage kill him recently to complete his training arc to fight Eddie?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He came back recently to job out to Jean Grey. They also hinted at him in the second Sony Spider-Man game with the symbiote mooks having his symbol.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Technically it would be Carnage since he turned into a chosen one that wants to be God and got an entire cult around him while being able to pull a lot of bullshit victories.

      Knull = Barbatos while Batkek = Carnage

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'll say this in favor of Carnage: it took him YEARS of books to become cosmic, and he got a number of setbacks

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Man this is so fricking stupid
        I appreciate Cates trying to do something epic with Venom but Carnage is not nearly interesting enough for all this wank.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Knull started to massively job in the end
      Batkek just found new ways to get wanked

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Batkek by far. The Red Hulk was annoying and dumb but he wasn't IN YOUR FACE in EVERY book and wasn't treated like the biggest bad of them all who even got Dr Manhattan's powers because he's so bad and cool and edgy.

      This is indeed a more balanced comparison, probably Onslaught too?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/SVD8fGx.png

      Which one of these two was worse?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Prime was fun Gwen was forced in fact Gwen's legacy is the cosplayers she will be kept alive because of them it was the same as with harley and power girl

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i miss seeing these 2

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Batkek is the end result of Batwank and Jokerwank
    Red Hulk's first few arcs were dumb fun at worst

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Batman Who Laughs is like everything obnoxious about the Batman vs Joker "mythology" condensed into a single character

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Worse as in shittier, or worse as in more evil?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shittier obviously

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Red Hulk was contained to his book for the most part.
    Batkek took on the whole DC universe for years, and his death was functionally off screen with a few narration boxes.

    This isn't even a contest.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >HEH,,, CUTE;,, I AM LIFTING MJÖLNIR,, BECAUSE YOU ARE HOLDING ONTO IT... I FIGURED IT OUT,,,

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Red Hulk wasn't even... Okay he was pretty bad with all the wanking and the """mystery""" around his identity that was glaringly obvious. But Batman Who Lmaos was way worse in the wank aspect, and way less inspired. The idea behind Red Hulk is maybe stupid and probably contradicts something about Ross' characters established decades prior, but it's not as lazy as combining Batwank with Jokerwank and then insisting that was the new hottest shit ever, forcing it on everybody.
    Oh and Batkek was a rip-off of Judge Death, too. A cherry on the shitty sundae

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ross has not been a regular in the Hulk stories since the 1970s. They brought him back because of the Iraq war.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oh, so that's why it always felt so weird that one of THE HULK's worst enemies is just a military guy with a lot of guns and cannon fodder. They artificially brought him back into relevance in the 2000s after the character had been retired for decades, and then shortly afterward had a brilliant idea to turn him into another Hulk. Man this all feels so silly.

        Is Batkek so stupid that he loops back around to being fun?

        Not for most people here.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I was attracted to the design on the left. It's def up my alley

      >Oh and Batkek was a rip-off of Judge Death, too

      Sounds cool, I wanna know more about this guy

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I barely know anything about Red Hulk besides it existing.
    So I'm assuming Red Hulk is mediocrely bad, rather than outrageously bad like Batkek, since people hardly even talk about it.

    But if anyone wouldn't mind explaining, what's so bad about Red Hulk?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Poorly written character that got wanked super hard. Showed up and beat all of your favorite heroes just because.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I will never get over the fact that someone at marvel thought this page was cool and that multiple other people had to have looked at this page and agreed it was okay to publish

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          At least with this image we have the ultimate visual interpretation of the term "jumping the shark"

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Supposedly it was supposed to be Talbot, but the writer changed it to Ross at the last second because readers were able to figure the clues he was leaving.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Loeb was definitely planning on it being Ross, he just tried to put in some swerves to throw readers off after they had it figured out by like issue 7

            It wasn't like Bendis with Ronin where it was very clearly supposed to be Daredevil with clues to it being Daredevil before he changed it to Echo because he was pissed people figured out it was Daredevil

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >It wasn't like Bendis with Ronin where it was very clearly supposed to be Daredevil with clues to it being Daredevil before he changed it to Echo because he was pissed people figured out it was Daredevil

              I don't think it was because of that. I think it was because he forgot that he couldn't have Daredevil be Ronin if he was sending him to prison in the Daredevil comic

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Someone has that image of Batman Who Laughs getting his ass kicked by Judge Death?

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who was the Red Hulk again?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ross, but not really, but then really.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    wait, i only read the first couple issues that red hulk was around. Did they frick him up later?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes but he kept coming back for a while until he became an antihero in the worst Thunderbolts line-up ever (before MCU anyway)

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the worst Thunderbolts line-up ever
        Rossbolts was okay. The major problem is that it was the first run without Songbird.

        It's still better than every other boltbook after it.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Red hulk was fun and better than WW hulk and planet hulk but batkek ? Batman hasn't been good since the New 52

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is Batkek so stupid that he loops back around to being fun?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's not fun and it's never going to be fun. Early alternative versions of the joker like batman lobo joker are actually funny

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. Listen to everybody crying about 'muh wank'. It's just antifunf'ags.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >muh
        >fun
        >gays

        Shill spotted

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no, he's so stupid you start questioning the validity of 'so stupid its fun' as a concept

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love how much Batkek makes everybody seethe over a silly comic book character. He's my absolute favorite of all time.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You probably started reading comics fairly recently.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        1983, exactly.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's just normies.
        I get the hate if only because he's the comic equivalent of the Ultramarines or Three Days Grace. I don't think that makes him bad, he's just mediocre and popular which leads to a natural loathing of him.
        People who think he's le so deep are gay
        People who power scale him are gay
        The women (who are less than people) who've made him some weird social symbol for male trauma and insist stories "unpack" it are gay.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >killing the joker always releases a toxin that turns someone else into the joker

    How is Red Hulk worse than that?

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think they should soft retcon Red Hulk to keep the mustache at some point but Kekman is infinitely worse.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The one made by AIM kept his

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Rulk was stupid and over stayed it's welcome but it was nowhere near as bad as Batkek was. Rulk was just a shit character rather than a whole shit event.

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