This. It's astoundingly amateurish writing.
The Dark Knight ending is one of the most iconic moments in all of cape movies, while The Batman is already forgotten as a whole.
This. It's astoundingly amateurish writing.
The Dark Knight ending is one of the most iconic moments in all of cape movies, while The Batman is already forgotten as a whole.
Seriously, I mean wtf even is this. > The City is angry, Scarred, Like me. > Our scars could destroy us. Even after the physical wounds have healed.
Like what even is the point of the last sentence? Yeah, no shit we know what you mean when you say scars. It doesn't even have poetic utility there. It's pointless and just fucks up the flow of thd speech.
It's really stilted writing, overextending to try and get some message across. I was already cringing at the beginning at lines like "Two years of nights have turned me into a nocturnal animal." Who talks like that? You could tell Reeves was a bad writer from the third Apes movie. It was just an embarrassing disaster full of plot holes and awkward moments.
The "ready to strike like snakes" was worse. I was transported to the good old days of reading fanfics on fanfiction.net. But it could've been worse. An earlier version of the scene > Two years of nights have turned me into a nocturnal animal ... My senses are heightened now..I can
almost smell them ...
>> Our scars could destroy us. Even after the physical wounds have healed.
I actually laughed in the theater. It's the kind of shit that's so bad that you instantly know pseuds on reddit should be going "uhhh you don't get it, it's MEANT to feel stilted bc uhhh it uhhh reflects Bruce's uhhh"
https://www.reddit.com/r/batman/comments/t98qmw/the_batman_ending_monologue > This is the greatest line of dialogue ever uttered in a live action Batman film. Sums up the character and the message of the movie. Can’t wait for the sequel.
>Don't even care about the message if the prose is poor.
This shit is not talked about enough. It's actually baffling when you compare similar scenes. Look at the "You're not my father" scene from Batman Begins and this. Matt Reeves does it in the most hackneyed and clichéd way possible. It's shocking that these people get paid millions to write this shit.
>It's Halloween night, and the crowds are out in force. Heavy rain batters the streets and the people gathered to celebrate. The element of criminality is hidden in the chaos, waiting to pounce like a predatory creature of the night. But so am I. These last few years have molded me into a nocturnal predator. I must be careful when choosing my targets. This city is a big place, and I can't be in two places at once. So now there's a signal, used to call on me. But when the light hits the sky, it's not just a call, but a warning. Fear is a tool. They think I'm hiding in the shadows. No, I am the shadows.
the batman fucked up that ending, it's way too soon into his story for batman to already think like that, and it's just not written as well as the dark knight speech. Remember, brevity is the soul of wit
Aesthetically The Batman is much better that Nolan's Batman, and I say that as someone who knows those movies from bottom to top and loves them, but the suit, gadgets, even the city all looked really generic. Actually Begins had a much better aesthetic in that regard, whilst Knight toned it down, too many daylight scenes, too much generic architecture. It looks like Chicago, not gothic, dirty New York. However the writing is way, way ahead of Reeves. Even in Begins which was weaker in that department. I really wish we had something that had the look of The Batman, but the writing and pacing of Nolan's dark knight.
Eh...The Batman isn't all that great looks wise. Burton is still the best in that regard. What hurts The Batman is that too much time is spent in the fucking Iceberg lounge. What's the point of all that world building if so much of the plot happens at a night club and dilapidated building.
I was thinking the same actually, in that yes Burton does have the most aesthetically strong and defined version of Gotham, you could really see that Gotham in the Burton dulogy really defined what a twisted, gothic New York full of broken down industry and eternally towering buildings all cloaked in perpetual night really would look like. But at the same time I feel that it is a little to out there, as with most Burton movies. Whereas The Batman strikes a more balanced approach with realism. It still looks like it could be real, whereas Burton with the curved buildings and sprawling giant factoies and The Warriors style gangs is a lot more artistic and fantastical.
I don't know if the bottom one is from Pattinson Batman or Affleck Batman because I haven't seen either of their movies, but the second part of the speech there reads awkwardly. Would probably be better if he didn't spell out that he's not talking about physical scars, seems like that much is already pretty obvious.
It's sad isn't it? The dialogue is poetic in many areas but that hardly went into the evaluation of this movie.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It honestly just utterly filtered the 110 IQ journo goobers that had to review it. Theatrical missing 30 minutes of runtime didn't help.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
No, the actual shocking part is people acting offended that it was trying to be poetic and profound. I remember a critic specifically mocking the opening and the sentiment can be summed up to "lol, why is this capeshit trying to be poetic and shieet?" Like they were offended that it was trying to be more than generic fun.
any speech in any movie sounds stupid, people don't talk like that unless they're on some public event and even there people just skim through it and clap
TDK by a lightyear. The scars shit is like the magnum opus of Matt Reeves' dorkiness. It's why TDKs ending is still remembered around the world as one of the greatest and most impactful endings in all of cinema while the only people that even bring up reeves' shit are dorks like him on social media that will never get over their inferiority complexes. These people enjoy being dunked on by older brother figures as if they had a fetish for it.
He is friends with JJ Abrams, WB signed up Abrams to give them ideas for movies and shows and paid him millions upfront, the only thing coming from it all is a batman cartoon WB had to sell to amazon.
Because WB/Geoff Johns basically forced Ben Affleck out of the project and after the Josstice League fiasco he was over it anyways and started drinking heavily again. So WB were desperate to find a director and people dick rode Reeves mediocre ape movies so they went with him.
>Which was the better speech?
This is like asking which was the better film between Goodfellas and John Travolta's Gotti. TDK has one of the best movie endings of all time. Meanwhile, the Batman's entire third act is dogshit.
>gritty capeshit is better! >nooo zoomer gritty capeshit is better >nooooo you midwits le underperforming sadboy capeshit is better
i seriously hope you capeshitters are still teenagers because i can't imagine you lot being adults without hurling my guts
Weren’t you just chimping out over capeshit in general? Why would conversing with him about the subject matter more to you if he was Britbong like yourself, an American or a Swede with good English education?
The cowardice is amusing. I'd have respected you more if you had actually posted a list even if it was underwhelming.
Watch how the capeshit swarthoids recoil when discovered. "I've been found out!"
I didn’t recoil. I asked you a question. You were just criticizing superhero movies in general and now you’re saying you’ll actually entertain a conversation if someone proves they’re white? Why? What do you gain from that other than a headache? Why not just leave the thread and find one that interests you? Answer me you son of a mother whore bitch
Weren’t you just chimping out over capeshit in general? Why would conversing with him about the subject matter more to you if he was Britbong like yourself, an American or a Swede with good English education?
OK I'll give you an answer. 90% of capeshitters (especially snyderfags) you encounter are swarthy indians or sudacas. These subhumans drastically lower board quality by spamming mindless capeshit company wars and shilling eceleb social media accounts. Call them out and they throw hissy fits. By making them post their hand I make them acknowledge their brown skin, which they loathe.
>you son of a mother whore bitch
you basterd bich bhenchod i fuck your mother
I didn’t recoil. I asked you a question. You were just criticizing superhero movies in general and now you’re saying you’ll actually entertain a conversation if someone proves they’re white? Why? What do you gain from that other than a headache? Why not just leave the thread and find one that interests you? Answer me you son of a mother whore bitch
Hello anon, I'm Indian and I can guarantee I have better taste and a better grasp over cinema than you do.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yet you're in a capeshit thread talking with other autists here..what does that say about you?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Capeshit is almost like any other genre. There's good and there's trash. I say almost because the nature of capeshit and the amount of money involved means the ratio of good to trash is pretty bad. Still, TDK is as good as any other action epic(Braveheart, The Matrix, Gladiator, Terminator 2). The only reason I clicked this thread.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
bhak saale, bada aaya kinosseur
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
yeah? why has india never once won an oscar for best foreign language film? name one indian director who has a shred of the talent that fellini or tarkovsky or ozu or scorsese or godard showed.
Oi, I can’t believe it either! It’s a sad thing innit? These poor buggers would prefer talking about Batman than talking to a bird. Sad state of affairs, o right.
Feel bad for Pattinson because he’s a good actor, but the writing and the editing were just poor overall. It’s already forgotten. The idea of rewatching that three hour movie does not interest me at all.
Even in those lines right there: >Vengeance won’t change the past.
Ok >mine or anyone else’s.
Redundant >I have to become more.
Ok >People need hope.
Ok >To know someone’s out there for them.
Redundant and has nothing to do with the first line “vengeance can’t change the past”
“Vengeance can’t change the past. I have to become more.” Then finish with something like “to show people the future is worth fighting for.”
>“Vengeance can’t change the past. I have to become more.” Then finish with something like “to show people the future is worth fighting for.”
That's a decent solution.
The worst thing is that many of the themes that are dealt with here have already been explored in previous films. Hope, fear, being a symbol of justice. All of this made it so much better. Batman Begins
The Batman looked like someone took scenes and themes from other Batman movies and stitched them together. Idk if a movie has ever felt more clunky to me either. The pacing of the final action scene is so bad. The thing that really got me was him electrocuting himself instead of just throwing that Batarang. Silly in the context of the character.
>The thing that really got me was him electrocuting himself instead of just throwing that Batarang
Tbf, it's not a batarang. It's just a knife. This Batman doesn't have Batarangs.
>Tbf, it's not a batarang. It's just a knife. This Batman doesn't have Batarangs
Ah, well if that is the case that's even worse.
No Batarangs and no Batman pocket knife.
That's cuz The Batman is literally a retard. They took "the world's greatest detective" and turned him into a complete idiot. He didn't solve any of the Fiddler's stuff properly and was 2 steps behind the entire time.
This was my biggest problem with the movie. Batman was a complete retard. That whole “Rata Alada" segment was ridiculous. Even Riddler was like "Huh? You haven't figured it out?". Strange way to characterize Batman when this was supposed to be the most detective Batman movie ever made.
I could’ve sworn I saw critics and moviegoers alike praising The Batman for bringing Bruce back to his detective roots. I haven’t seen the movie myself yet but was that just easily impressed idiots that would’ve been happy with any “detective scenes” they threw in?
He literally doesn't figure out the Riddler's plan at any point and has to have important stuff explained to him. He's an idiot.,
2 weeks ago
TheBatmanFan
What does he have explained to him?
Batman never figures out who the killer is in Long Halloween. Year Two Batman sometimes fails.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The Long Halloween is a terrible comic, and so is Dark Victory and Hush.
Jeph Loeb is a terrible comic writer. Every comic of his is a dumb thriller/mystery that serves as nothing but an excuse to throw several of the known villains as mere cameos so fanboys can be giddy about their appearances, and then an asspull ending that doesn't make any sense where the main killer/villain is some random guy.
2 weeks ago
TheBatmanFan
I think it's a great comic, so do most Batman fans, so I guess it comes down to us disagreeing on that.
Anyway, what did Batman need told to him?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Most Batman fans are fucking idiots that enjoy terrible. Actually, most comic readers and fucking idiots.
2 weeks ago
TheBatmanFan
I disagree, but okay.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Jeph Loeb? SHIT. Tom King? Scott Snyder? SHIT. Chuck Dixon? SHIT.
One is written as a true resolution to the story at play, the other is a diary entry by a dork trying to fit his incongruous ideas together in the most hamfisted way possible.
Dark Knight may have its faults, but it sure as shit isn’t the ending writing/denouement.
The bottom, absolutely.
Fits the character perfectly, is beautifully structured, and a perfect ending to a masterful character arc.
TDK's is a bit too pretentious sadly, and too redundant, whereas Reeves takes each new line to extrapolate on an idea.
TDK is great, but The Batman is perfect.
The bottom one has clunky writing and doesn't even flow well. Don't even care about the message if the prose is poor.
This. It's astoundingly amateurish writing.
The Dark Knight ending is one of the most iconic moments in all of cape movies, while The Batman is already forgotten as a whole.
Seriously, I mean wtf even is this.
> The City is angry, Scarred, Like me.
> Our scars could destroy us. Even after the physical wounds have healed.
Like what even is the point of the last sentence? Yeah, no shit we know what you mean when you say scars. It doesn't even have poetic utility there. It's pointless and just fucks up the flow of thd speech.
It's really stilted writing, overextending to try and get some message across. I was already cringing at the beginning at lines like "Two years of nights have turned me into a nocturnal animal." Who talks like that? You could tell Reeves was a bad writer from the third Apes movie. It was just an embarrassing disaster full of plot holes and awkward moments.
The "ready to strike like snakes" was worse. I was transported to the good old days of reading fanfics on fanfiction.net. But it could've been worse. An earlier version of the scene
> Two years of nights have turned me into a nocturnal animal ... My senses are heightened now..I can
almost smell them ...
fucked up the quote.
> Two years of nights have turned me into a nocturnal animal ... My senses are heightened now..I can almost smell them ...
>I was transported to the good old days of reading fanfics on fanfiction.net
This
>> Our scars could destroy us. Even after the physical wounds have healed.
I actually laughed in the theater. It's the kind of shit that's so bad that you instantly know pseuds on reddit should be going "uhhh you don't get it, it's MEANT to feel stilted bc uhhh it uhhh reflects Bruce's uhhh"
https://www.reddit.com/r/batman/comments/t98qmw/the_batman_ending_monologue
> This is the greatest line of dialogue ever uttered in a live action Batman film. Sums up the character and the message of the movie. Can’t wait for the sequel.
>Don't even care about the message if the prose is poor.
This shit is not talked about enough. It's actually baffling when you compare similar scenes. Look at the "You're not my father" scene from Batman Begins and this. Matt Reeves does it in the most hackneyed and clichéd way possible. It's shocking that these people get paid millions to write this shit.
Snyder movies are literally made for stupid people to feel smarter than they really are, like most mutts
None of this is from Snyder, you embarrassing midwit.
>Snyder
Rent free.
The writing in BvS shits on The Batman because it was written by Chris Terrio, an actual writer, unlike hack Reeves.
The second one is dreadful.
>It's Halloween night, and the crowds are out in force. Heavy rain batters the streets and the people gathered to celebrate. The element of criminality is hidden in the chaos, waiting to pounce like a predatory creature of the night. But so am I. These last few years have molded me into a nocturnal predator. I must be careful when choosing my targets. This city is a big place, and I can't be in two places at once. So now there's a signal, used to call on me. But when the light hits the sky, it's not just a call, but a warning. Fear is a tool. They think I'm hiding in the shadows. No, I am the shadows.
There, I did a quick rewrite for Reeves.
I think this post is great, which is another way of saying that it is very good.
Pretty good anon
the batman fucked up that ending, it's way too soon into his story for batman to already think like that, and it's just not written as well as the dark knight speech. Remember, brevity is the soul of wit
Aesthetically The Batman is much better that Nolan's Batman, and I say that as someone who knows those movies from bottom to top and loves them, but the suit, gadgets, even the city all looked really generic. Actually Begins had a much better aesthetic in that regard, whilst Knight toned it down, too many daylight scenes, too much generic architecture. It looks like Chicago, not gothic, dirty New York. However the writing is way, way ahead of Reeves. Even in Begins which was weaker in that department. I really wish we had something that had the look of The Batman, but the writing and pacing of Nolan's dark knight.
Eh...The Batman isn't all that great looks wise. Burton is still the best in that regard. What hurts The Batman is that too much time is spent in the fucking Iceberg lounge. What's the point of all that world building if so much of the plot happens at a night club and dilapidated building.
I was thinking the same actually, in that yes Burton does have the most aesthetically strong and defined version of Gotham, you could really see that Gotham in the Burton dulogy really defined what a twisted, gothic New York full of broken down industry and eternally towering buildings all cloaked in perpetual night really would look like. But at the same time I feel that it is a little to out there, as with most Burton movies. Whereas The Batman strikes a more balanced approach with realism. It still looks like it could be real, whereas Burton with the curved buildings and sprawling giant factoies and The Warriors style gangs is a lot more artistic and fantastical.
Begins had a good Halloween aesthetic. I don't know why Nolan gave up on it.
I prefer The Batman over The Dark Knight
the cinematography is better
I don't know if the bottom one is from Pattinson Batman or Affleck Batman because I haven't seen either of their movies, but the second part of the speech there reads awkwardly. Would probably be better if he didn't spell out that he's not talking about physical scars, seems like that much is already pretty obvious.
Pattinson. Affleck is "Men are still good".
For a such a reviled movie, it has some pretty good monologues. The 1 percent speech was also good.
Terrio is a good writer.
I like
It's sad isn't it? The dialogue is poetic in many areas but that hardly went into the evaluation of this movie.
It honestly just utterly filtered the 110 IQ journo goobers that had to review it. Theatrical missing 30 minutes of runtime didn't help.
No, the actual shocking part is people acting offended that it was trying to be poetic and profound. I remember a critic specifically mocking the opening and the sentiment can be summed up to "lol, why is this capeshit trying to be poetic and shieet?" Like they were offended that it was trying to be more than generic fun.
any speech in any movie sounds stupid, people don't talk like that unless they're on some public event and even there people just skim through it and clap
TDK by a lightyear. The scars shit is like the magnum opus of Matt Reeves' dorkiness. It's why TDKs ending is still remembered around the world as one of the greatest and most impactful endings in all of cinema while the only people that even bring up reeves' shit are dorks like him on social media that will never get over their inferiority complexes. These people enjoy being dunked on by older brother figures as if they had a fetish for it.
>dorkiness
Perfect.
Why did matt reeves get batman in the first place?
He is friends with JJ Abrams, WB signed up Abrams to give them ideas for movies and shows and paid him millions upfront, the only thing coming from it all is a batman cartoon WB had to sell to amazon.
>JJ Abrams
Yuck.
Without irony I prefer James gunn to take care of the dcu than jj Abraham and matt Reeves
Because WB/Geoff Johns basically forced Ben Affleck out of the project and after the Josstice League fiasco he was over it anyways and started drinking heavily again. So WB were desperate to find a director and people dick rode Reeves mediocre ape movies so they went with him.
>Which was the better speech?
This is like asking which was the better film between Goodfellas and John Travolta's Gotti. TDK has one of the best movie endings of all time. Meanwhile, the Batman's entire third act is dogshit.
Pattinson's monologues were awful. It sounded like those poems you write with refrigerator magnets.
>meanwhile zack snyder can't even form proper sentences
Zack Snyder didn't write BvS fucking dipshit
You don’t get it. Pattinson’s version of the character is literally a moron. That’s why he sounds so stilted, redundant and says little of value.
>I don't wear hockey pants.
>gritty capeshit is better!
>nooo zoomer gritty capeshit is better
>nooooo you midwits le underperforming sadboy capeshit is better
i seriously hope you capeshitters are still teenagers because i can't imagine you lot being adults without hurling my guts
Post your favorite flicks, So I can laught it.
i will only if you post hand with timestamp so i know you're not a Hispanic or pajeet
>I'm 100 IQ but at least I'm white
Sad.
t. 100% white anon
Watch how the capeshit swarthoids recoil when discovered. "I've been found out!"
I didn’t recoil. I asked you a question. You were just criticizing superhero movies in general and now you’re saying you’ll actually entertain a conversation if someone proves they’re white? Why? What do you gain from that other than a headache? Why not just leave the thread and find one that interests you? Answer me you son of a mother whore bitch
Weren’t you just chimping out over capeshit in general? Why would conversing with him about the subject matter more to you if he was Britbong like yourself, an American or a Swede with good English education?
OK I'll give you an answer. 90% of capeshitters (especially snyderfags) you encounter are swarthy indians or sudacas. These subhumans drastically lower board quality by spamming mindless capeshit company wars and shilling eceleb social media accounts. Call them out and they throw hissy fits. By making them post their hand I make them acknowledge their brown skin, which they loathe.
>you son of a mother whore bitch
you basterd bich bhenchod i fuck your mother
also meant for
>people in India are Indian
Shocking
Hello anon, I'm Indian and I can guarantee I have better taste and a better grasp over cinema than you do.
Yet you're in a capeshit thread talking with other autists here..what does that say about you?
Capeshit is almost like any other genre. There's good and there's trash. I say almost because the nature of capeshit and the amount of money involved means the ratio of good to trash is pretty bad. Still, TDK is as good as any other action epic(Braveheart, The Matrix, Gladiator, Terminator 2). The only reason I clicked this thread.
bhak saale, bada aaya kinosseur
yeah? why has india never once won an oscar for best foreign language film? name one indian director who has a shred of the talent that fellini or tarkovsky or ozu or scorsese or godard showed.
Easy, M. Night.
The cowardice is amusing. I'd have respected you more if you had actually posted a list even if it was underwhelming.
Oi, I can’t believe it either! It’s a sad thing innit? These poor buggers would prefer talking about Batman than talking to a bird. Sad state of affairs, o right.
Feel bad for Pattinson because he’s a good actor, but the writing and the editing were just poor overall. It’s already forgotten. The idea of rewatching that three hour movie does not interest me at all.
Even in those lines right there:
>Vengeance won’t change the past.
Ok
>mine or anyone else’s.
Redundant
>I have to become more.
Ok
>People need hope.
Ok
>To know someone’s out there for them.
Redundant and has nothing to do with the first line “vengeance can’t change the past”
“Vengeance can’t change the past. I have to become more.” Then finish with something like “to show people the future is worth fighting for.”
>“Vengeance can’t change the past. I have to become more.” Then finish with something like “to show people the future is worth fighting for.”
That's a decent solution.
The worst thing is that many of the themes that are dealt with here have already been explored in previous films. Hope, fear, being a symbol of justice. All of this made it so much better. Batman Begins
The Batman looked like someone took scenes and themes from other Batman movies and stitched them together. Idk if a movie has ever felt more clunky to me either. The pacing of the final action scene is so bad. The thing that really got me was him electrocuting himself instead of just throwing that Batarang. Silly in the context of the character.
>The thing that really got me was him electrocuting himself instead of just throwing that Batarang
Tbf, it's not a batarang. It's just a knife. This Batman doesn't have Batarangs.
>Tbf, it's not a batarang. It's just a knife. This Batman doesn't have Batarangs
Ah, well if that is the case that's even worse.
No Batarangs and no Batman pocket knife.
That's cuz The Batman is literally a retard. They took "the world's greatest detective" and turned him into a complete idiot. He didn't solve any of the Fiddler's stuff properly and was 2 steps behind the entire time.
He also had to be told what happened to his parents when all the clues were there. He had to just look into more than not at all
This was my biggest problem with the movie. Batman was a complete retard. That whole “Rata Alada" segment was ridiculous. Even Riddler was like "Huh? You haven't figured it out?". Strange way to characterize Batman when this was supposed to be the most detective Batman movie ever made.
12-year-old Bruce Wayne in "Gotham" was a better detective than The Retard.
I could’ve sworn I saw critics and moviegoers alike praising The Batman for bringing Bruce back to his detective roots. I haven’t seen the movie myself yet but was that just easily impressed idiots that would’ve been happy with any “detective scenes” they threw in?
I disagree. He's quite smart, and it falls in line with The Long Halloween well.
>He's quite smart
He literally doesn't figure out the Riddler's plan at any point and has to have important stuff explained to him. He's an idiot.,
What does he have explained to him?
Batman never figures out who the killer is in Long Halloween. Year Two Batman sometimes fails.
The Long Halloween is a terrible comic, and so is Dark Victory and Hush.
Jeph Loeb is a terrible comic writer. Every comic of his is a dumb thriller/mystery that serves as nothing but an excuse to throw several of the known villains as mere cameos so fanboys can be giddy about their appearances, and then an asspull ending that doesn't make any sense where the main killer/villain is some random guy.
I think it's a great comic, so do most Batman fans, so I guess it comes down to us disagreeing on that.
Anyway, what did Batman need told to him?
Most Batman fans are fucking idiots that enjoy terrible. Actually, most comic readers and fucking idiots.
I disagree, but okay.
Jeph Loeb? SHIT. Tom King? Scott Snyder? SHIT. Chuck Dixon? SHIT.
One is written as a true resolution to the story at play, the other is a diary entry by a dork trying to fit his incongruous ideas together in the most hamfisted way possible.
Dark Knight may have its faults, but it sure as shit isn’t the ending writing/denouement.
People still remember the ending of TDK. Nobody cares about The Batman anymore.
The bottom, absolutely.
Fits the character perfectly, is beautifully structured, and a perfect ending to a masterful character arc.
TDK's is a bit too pretentious sadly, and too redundant, whereas Reeves takes each new line to extrapolate on an idea.
TDK is great, but The Batman is perfect.
Why does his armor look like he have tits?
Hey! You're back.
Remember when you got BTFO'd?
That was a good thread.
Pattinson Batman is such a pussy.
I disagree. He was pretty damn tough.
Man took a bomb to the face without damage. Man walked away from a crash perfectly fine.
the emo-batman quote sounds better but I didn't get to see in the movie because it had me fallen asleep at that point