>the moon was one of the diciding factors in jumpstarting life so our moon is pretty based
Pretty naive, think about it we have to deal with Trump country because of the moon.
Moons as big as ours (relative to the body they orbit) are stupidly rare. Most moons are basically invisible from the surface of the planet they orbit.
A moon still has a planet anon, it being a dwarf doesn't stop the moon being described in respect of its own planet. Dwarf is the classification of 6 major bodies
Pluto is absolutely a planet. A bunch of Redditors voting at a fake astronomer convention doesn't change that. Anything that orbits a star and has enough gravity to circularize itself is a planet. Pluto is actually best characterized as a binary planet with Charon.
>so there's like 15 planets then?
Yes. The only sensible definition of planet is: 1. Something that orbits a star and 2. Has sufficient mass to circularize itself.
That's it. No other definition works.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Has sufficient mass to circularize itself.
circles are 2D moron. hit the books, niel
2 years ago
Anonymous
A sphere is a type of circle, anon. Specifically, a 3D circle.
2 years ago
Anonymous
the earth isnt a perfect sphere moron. does that make it not a planet?
2 years ago
Anonymous
A lot of science is about avoiding autism. Only an autist would say Earth isn't spherical. Earth absolutely is a sphere on the scale of planetary physics.
not by the current definition or we would have 15 planets right now. every random rock we discover in space is not a planet. definition can change in the future so lookout for that
>not by the current definition or we would have 15 planets right now
Redditors voting at a fake astronomer convention doesn't produce a valid definition, anon. By your logic a bunch of r/Chemistry homosexuals could meet up and vote Hydrogen off the Periodic Table.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>vote Hydrogen off the Periodic Table
It's time those 2 electron having homosexuals get what's coming to them
>Moon
Orbits a star.
Has enough mass to circularize itself.
Ergo it's a planet. Before you say it orbits the earth and not the sun, the sun-moon gravitational force is stronger than that of the earth-moon.
>everything else is round so we theorized that the earth is round >there are no such thing as flat planets but we are supposed to believe in flat earth
Space is so fricking gay. Sci-fi should focus on Earth and should be allegorical to the socio-economical problems that plague humankind like climate change or racism or class inequality.
I was just thinking about this recently, I think I agree. Space exploration doesn’t interest me really. Star Trek is okay and I like Cowboy Bebop but that’s about it. Prefer things to be more grounded, figuratively and literally.
"space exploration" scifi is entirely built on having "no imagination" and wanting to bring everything down to "your level." space-columbus takes his space-boat to other space-continents to meet space-indians. oh maybe we can have a cold war with space russians in space, or a space plague, or a space religion and space feudalism, or maybe space world war 2 or a space detective solving space murder mysteries. it's all about rehashing shit you've seen a million times but everyone's wearing moronic outfits. least creative genre in the world.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You just described every genre you space tard, including litterature.
I was just thinking about this recently, I think I agree. Space exploration doesn’t interest me really. Star Trek is okay and I like Cowboy Bebop but that’s about it. Prefer things to be more grounded, figuratively and literally.
I want all women and gays off my board and I want them gone NOW! Space and Cinemaphile are for MEN
>set the movie on Quadrant 3's Gamma Epsilon 13 >"wow cool" >set the movie on Callisto >NASA probe launched five years later disproves everything about the movie
Here is the surface of Titan. It's from a side mission of the fabulous Cassini-Huygens mission around Saturn, I recommend the documentary, which is very Cinemaphile related and super comfy.
>he fell for the silicon meme
Silicon a shit. Its electrons are farther from the nucleus than ours, so they have way less energy and it needs high, steady temperatures to link with other elements. Silicon-based lifeforms would fall apart if they entered a slightly warmer or colder room.
>Titan has lakes actually, so frick those boring ass ice rocks
fricking lakes and rivers of liquid methane and ethane with a cryovolcano here and there.
It actually has a weather cycle based around liquid carbohydrates like water on earth.
There might be spacefish down there.
>There might be spacefish down there.
That's Europa, the one that is a giant ocean with10-30km ice sheath that acts like continental mass to liquid water being magma on Earth.
I’ll drop some of my ideas for a sci fi setting in my novel
>Mars is partially terraformed, with some oceans near the poles. Most of the planet is still freakishly hot during the day and way below freezing at night. Imperialists live in the northern hemisphere, a religious cult lives in the near-inhospitable deserts along the equator, and southern Mars is in a war for control >Venus is home to a floating sky academy where the elite students of earth can choose to study, prisoners mine a rare element on the acidic surface >moon has been terraformed into a paradise for the wealthy rulers of earth >earth is a globohomosexual overpopulated bureaucracy, with a one world government divided into sectors ruling over them from the moon
It's actually way worse than it should be. John Carpenter making a movie with Pam Grier and Jason Statham set on Mars should be absolute kino, instead it's very underwhelming.
It’s not a gas giant. It’s actually a tennis ball sized black hole in FAR orbit. That’s why it’s incredibly hard to find but fricks up gravity enough that we know something exists.
It's actually the overall gravitational effect of the Oort Cloud. There is no Planet 11. The only planets we have are the Classic 6 plus Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, and Eris.
There's a lot of pie in the sky talk about eventually terraforming Mars, increasing the atmospheric pressure, creating an artificial ozone equivalent, etc. There's a lot more issues to deal with than just temperature, but the planet is also our best bet at terraforming in our solar system.
Gravity would correct itself with introduction of atmosphere, as well as fixing the oxygen and temperature problems. The problem is creating a planetary atmosphere by hand is pretty much impossible
>Gravity would correct itself with introduction of atmosphere
lol what?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Mass would cease to freely exit the planet, meaning a very slow growth of the planets size, leading to an eventual increase in gravitational pull
2 years ago
Anonymous
Umm no. That's not how atmospheres work, for many, many reasons. Earth's atmosphere actually lessens gravity. The gravity of the atmosphere is pulling you upwards.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The mass of the atmosphere should have basically no effect on you (assuming spherical earth and atmospheric density determined uniquely by elevation). Shell theorem. The air above you is offset by all thr atmosphere on the other side of you.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>The air above you is offset by all thr atmosphere on the other side of you.
False. Gravity is an r to the minus 2 force. The air over China isn't pulling me as hard as the air over me because it's further away.
2 years ago
Anonymous
But there's more of it. This is the shell theorem and it's high school physics.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Sorry buddy, but you have no idea what you're talking about. The atmosphere's gravitational effect pulls up on objects at the surface of the Earth. It's negligible but it is there.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Only because the two conditions I mentioned (spherical earth and constant density when radius is held constant) aren't true, which could go any direction in terms of the atmosphere's collective gravitational pull on you. Again, this is exactly the shell theorem and it's a straightforward derivation. Stop skipping lectures.
Many physicists thought sustained manned flight was impossible. Until they did it.
An engineering impossibility or a scientific impossibility?
how does it work though? would the planet/bodies be bent too which comes in the path?
It doesn't. "Bending space" a la an Alcubierre drive or whatever the hot buzztech is would still run into issues of violating causality or relativity if it lets you get from point A to point B in some inertial frame quicker than light does.
>terraforming is literally magic to us as of now.
False. We have all the tech needed to do it on Mercury, Venus, the Moon, Mars, possibly Ceres, Pluto, and Eris. We would just rather spend our money on subhuman welfare recipients.
>Also you're missing the most important thing 'Gravity'. humans can't really live permanent in 1/3g.
Absolutely false.
>False. We have all the tech needed to do it on Mercury, Venus, the Moon, Mars, possibly Ceres, Pluto, and Eris. We would just rather spend our money on subhuman welfare recipients.
ok then why don't we do it on earth? like terraform deserts etc
Mass would cease to freely exit the planet, meaning a very slow growth of the planets size, leading to an eventual increase in gravitational pull
what are you on about? how will the mass grow? where would it come from?
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's almost like rocks in space constantly bombard other planets. We rarely notice because our fully functional atmosphere burns 99% of them up
2 years ago
Anonymous
you know if you combine all of the asteroids in the astroids belt it'd only make up of 1% of Mars's current mass. planets are fricking huge
2 years ago
Anonymous
It if you combine the ones we don't know
Checkmate
2 years ago
Anonymous
>ok then why don't we do it on earth? like terraform deserts etc
Because it's illegal. It would kill endangered desert animals and plants. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endangered_Species_Act_of_1973
Dumbass.
2 years ago
Anonymous
ok why not do just do it for like a square km, just for the demo?
It if you combine the ones we don't know
Checkmate
Today I saw a methhead lady get into her van with her chihuahua, only to find that she had 4 small children in there waiting for her. It looked like they lived in there. Another guy walked by wearing jeans that were almost to his knees, and you could see the feces running down his pants.
That’s who we’re supporting instead of exploring new worlds.
>but the planet is also our best bet at terraforming in our solar system.
Venus is almost the same size as Earth and would have the same gravity. It would just need a lot of terraforming to do something about the high pressure and heat.
>Venus is almost the same size as Earth and would have the same gravity. It would just need a lot of terraforming to do something about the high pressure and heat.
Benis is pretty simple. Put orbital shades around it until it cools and the atmosphere precipitates. The problem is turning sulfuric acid snow into something useful.
>Gas planets are like half of all planets. Other than that, ice and ocean worlds are presumed to be pretty common.
Bullshit. There are ten planets and only four are gas planets.
>there are 8 planets 4 of which are gas planets
Umm nope. There are 10 planets:
1. Mercury
2. Venus
3. Earth
4. Mars
5. Jupiter
6. Saturn
7. Uranus
8. Neptune
9. Pluto
10. Eris
The "clear the orbit" nonsense is obviously bullshit. You're telling me that if Jupiter's orbit was a bit messy with asteroids Jupiter wouldn't be a planet?
>The "clear the orbit" nonsense is obviously bullshit. You're telling me that if Jupiter's orbit was a bit messy with asteroids Jupiter wouldn't be a planet?
that's not how gravity works moron
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Anonymous
Of course gravity works that way in the right system. Jupiter was only able to clear its orbit because of serendipitous outside features of this solar system. There are plenty of solar systems in junky areas of the cosmos where Jupiter-type planets are never able to clear their orbits.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>There are plenty of solar systems in junky areas of the cosmos where Jupiter-type planets are never able to clear their orbits.
you made this up wannabe spaceBlack person
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not all solar systems are in clean areas, tard. Plenty of gas giants have junky orbits in junky areas and in young solar systems. Do you think Jupiter's orbit was always clear from day one?
And guess what? Eventually, on a long enough time scale, Ceres, Pluto, Eris, and a couple other objects will clear their orbits. We just aren't there yet.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Eventually, on a long enough time scale, Ceres, Pluto, Eris, and a couple other objects will clear their orbits. We just aren't there yet.
LOL this eternally BTFOs the Pluto-isn't-a-planet homosexuals
2 years ago
Anonymous
post 10 examples of these exo systems. you are confusing a junky system with a planetary disk right now. >Eventually, on a long enough time scale, Ceres, Pluto, Eris, and a couple other objects will clear their orbits. We just aren't there yet.
not they wont god damn you are dumb
2 years ago
Anonymous
>post 10 examples of these exo systems. you are confusing a junky system with a planetary disk right now.
I can't because I'm not an autistic homosexual who memorizes the name and location of every single alleged exoplanet. And I'm not confusing anything. There are plenty of reasons a system could have a gas giant with an unclear orbit:
1. Youth
2. Junky area
3. Unusual gravitational configuration of the entire system
4. Resonating binary/multinary star cluster with planets in a gravitationally stable non-circular orbit
The "cleared the neighborhood" thing was always fake and gay. The astronomers who decided it were observational amateurs with zero physics credentials who do not understand planetary physics at all. Actual planetary physicists still consider Pluto a planet, they just don't advertise because of R*ddit/Twitter cancellation.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I can't
of course you cant because you made shit up pretending to be smart. ill give you a freebee. all star systems are believed (notice i didnt say confirmed) to have planetoids (comets and asteroids for your moronic brain) and an oort cloud
2 years ago
Anonymous
Anon, you can understand planetary science without memorizing the details of all new exoplanet discoveries. I quit following all that after Trappist-1. And none of the equipment we currently have discovering these things is likely to identify a junky-orbit Jupiter because the local area would be too photonically garbled for the telescope to resolve.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>And none of the equipment we currently have discovering these things is likely to identify a junky-orbit Jupiter because the local area would be too photonically garbled for the telescope to resolve.
so you just made up the whole junky orbit thing then and claimed it as fact?
You include all the known dwarves or none at all, moron.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>You include all the known dwarves or none at all, moron.
Well, anything not capable of gravitationally binding a non-trivial atmosphere is not a planet. That's higher level than this thread deserves, but in truth Pluto/Eris are about as low as you can go.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Makemake me stop then homosexual
2 years ago
Anonymous
Makemake is some gay leftist shit. I call it Easter.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>leftist
You people are mindbroken
2 years ago
Anonymous
Anon, it is undisputed that Makemake is a stupid-ass name picked by a leftist to suck up to dumbass South Pacific islanders who haven't even discovered the wheel.
>You're telling me that if Jupiter's orbit was a bit messy with asteroids Jupiter wouldn't be a planet?
Yes, because then Jupiter would've been the size of Pluto or something. The reason there's no debris in its orbit, is because it was massive enough to clear it. But of course you knew this.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Yes, because then Jupiter would've been the size of Pluto or something. The reason there's no debris in its orbit, is because it was massive enough to clear it. But of course you knew this.
Except that's not correct. There are plenty of scenarios where a large object (Mars size or larger) would be unable to clear its orbit of asteroid-type objects. There are Jupiters out there who exist in Ceres-type orbits because of the local gravitational neighborhood.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Prove it
2 years ago
Anonymous
>And none of the equipment we currently have discovering these things is likely to identify a junky-orbit Jupiter because the local area would be too photonically garbled for the telescope to resolve.
so you just made up the whole junky orbit thing then and claimed it as fact?
Prove what, that some stars exist in areas with lots of junk, and therefore planets around them can't clear their orbits?
LOL why would I need to prove something that anyone with a modicum of knowledge of celestial physics knows?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>There are Jupiters out there who exist in Ceres-type orbits because of the local gravitational neighborhood. >Provides examples >Cannot provide evidence
2 years ago
Anonymous
im laughing my ass off at his cope too. he doesnt deserve the (You)'s anymore
2 years ago
Anonymous
when stars actually become stars their solar wind pushes all the "junk" away. this happens in the first 10 million years of a 10 billion year lifespan
Um, sweetie, we have to land a Woman and a Person of Color on the moon first (not asian). Old privileged white men made Women of Color do all the work to get to the moon in the first place, and they took all the credit.
Birds can’t really sustain flight for long and they’re very light. It’s not comparable to a plane. Nothing natural flies like a jet.
2 years ago
Anonymous
jets don't break laws or physics or causality
2 years ago
Anonymous
Many physicists thought sustained manned flight was impossible. Until they did it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
When the first project manhattan tests were prepared scientists were making bets if an explosion this hot will ignite the atmosphere.
The roll was something like 54-46 to no.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>steals ur enterprise >flies back to when your grandpa who built the enterprise was born >kills him
WHAT NOW, SMARTASS?
2 years ago
Anonymous
that is nothing compared to FTL travel
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Birds can’t really sustain flight for long
Umm...
Eventually we'll probably figure out some kind of FTL travel. That doesn't mean it will be feasible to colonize space though. There's probably things like the time dilation that occurs from your relative speed on whatever planet you go to that prevents it. Humanity would basically have to go there and stay in isolation because the relative time between it and Earth would get too far out of alignment.
don't care about some homosexual going to andromeda if I can't know about it for 5 million years
2 years ago
Anonymous
Then why do you go yourself homosexual? 11 years of five million the world is still advancing without you.
2 years ago
Anonymous
lol imagine leaving for andromeda and meanwhile earth got so advanced, those homosexual that left after you were already there when you reach just to make fun of you
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Look who FINALLY came out of his light speed travel
Kek
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Look who FINALLY came out of his light speed travel
Kek
You don't necessarily he to be going the speed of light. Something like warp travel might be possible to get around the effects of time dilatation, but who knows how feasible it would be to actually use it like say being in a warp bubble messes up your physiology or something. Just that whatever body you land on is going to have it's own relative speed and thus time may be faster or slower there compared to Earth.
What happens when you hit something going at the speed of light? Space is too full of random debris to travel like that
Space is very empty, but there's logistical things you can figure out. Map all the major bodies and use AI to help with navigation and such.
Maybe eventually there'll be a way to fold space like in Dune or some kind of portal like Stargate.There's also issues with communication over such long distances.
Or it just breaks relativity and we keep causality. FTL, causality, and relativity are incompatible as a group though. Probably FTL is the one to scrap.
it really feels like a grand conspiracy theory given how many millions of things would have to go exactly right to have life on this planet. Almost like someone did this this deliberately.
This thought is one I have had many times, usually when it's dark and I'm trying to get to sleep but cannot. I don't know if I'd ever go into space even if I had the option bros.
>mfw a CERND physicist smashes random electrons and neutrons together for 0.00000000000000001 nanoseconds before it decays and calls it a new element and collects €1m dollar nobel prize
the ever-changing Lagrange points interlocking corridors between sufficiently gravitational celestial objects, planetary or less
kys, tripgay
that's literally gundam tho
Earth bros...
Why are we such moonlets?
Supposedly the tide produced by the moon was one of the diciding factors in jumpstarting life so our moon is pretty based when you think about it.
>the moon was one of the diciding factors in jumpstarting life so our moon is pretty based
Pretty naive, think about it we have to deal with Trump country because of the moon.
>286 posts
>anon mentions "trump country"
rent free
Didn't someone once say that if the moon was any bigger we would be getting tectonic activity with the orbit instead of just waves?
>getting tectonic activity with the orbit
???
i mean it would manipulate our crust, and not just our oceans, if the moon were bigger
no.
Moons as big as ours (relative to the body they orbit) are stupidly rare. Most moons are basically invisible from the surface of the planet they orbit.
Has anyone been in another planet to look at the moon? No. So shut the frick up with your made up science.
Pluto disagrees. Also we have incredibly small sample size since we can't see exomoons yet.
moonlets? there are only 20 round moons and ours is the fifth largest; only pluto's charon is larger in comparison to its planet
pluto isnt a planet moron
A moon still has a planet anon, it being a dwarf doesn't stop the moon being described in respect of its own planet. Dwarf is the classification of 6 major bodies
Pluto is absolutely a planet. A bunch of Redditors voting at a fake astronomer convention doesn't change that. Anything that orbits a star and has enough gravity to circularize itself is a planet. Pluto is actually best characterized as a binary planet with Charon.
>I can use the binary classification
>but I can't use the dwarf classification
Cope
Pluto isn't a dwarf. It's a proper size for planets in that region of the solar system.
Face it Redditor, your stupid definition of planet doesn't work and most people reject it.
Pluto is a dwarf. You've been coping for 16 years now.
so there's like 15 planets then?
>so there's like 15 planets then?
Yes. The only sensible definition of planet is: 1. Something that orbits a star and 2. Has sufficient mass to circularize itself.
That's it. No other definition works.
>Has sufficient mass to circularize itself.
circles are 2D moron. hit the books, niel
A sphere is a type of circle, anon. Specifically, a 3D circle.
the earth isnt a perfect sphere moron. does that make it not a planet?
A lot of science is about avoiding autism. Only an autist would say Earth isn't spherical. Earth absolutely is a sphere on the scale of planetary physics.
i'd circularize your moms pussy with my dick lmao
not by the current definition or we would have 15 planets right now. every random rock we discover in space is not a planet. definition can change in the future so lookout for that
>not by the current definition or we would have 15 planets right now
Redditors voting at a fake astronomer convention doesn't produce a valid definition, anon. By your logic a bunch of r/Chemistry homosexuals could meet up and vote Hydrogen off the Periodic Table.
>vote Hydrogen off the Periodic Table
It's time those 2 electron having homosexuals get what's coming to them
who knows this much about the reddit lmao
I still haven't forgiven it for the Hindenburg.
>Moon
Orbits a star.
Has enough mass to circularize itself.
Ergo it's a planet. Before you say it orbits the earth and not the sun, the sun-moon gravitational force is stronger than that of the earth-moon.
bros...
>Why are we such moonlets?
We aren't you absolute brainlet.
We have the best moon. Nobody has a moon as great as ours. Our moon is--every other moon is a shithole compared to ours. Really great moon.
This is unironically true. First step to space exploration is a self sustained Lunar colony
its like the 4th largest in the solar system
We literally have one of the bigger and nicest moons there is. It's huge.
Watch The Expanse
>grey drama in space starring unlikable people #85464
No thanks
at least 3 of the 6 seasons are full of sovl, which is more you can say of most sci-fi tv-shows.
It’s fricking trash
>space is...LE FAKE!!!
Space is just a theory.
Evolution is just a theory.
Round earth is just a theory.
What isn’t a theory, oh wise one? The Bible?
A game theory
Christianity is just a fairy tale.
Vaccines aren't, albeit.
Your ability to procreate is just a theory.
>everything else is round so we theorized that the earth is round
>there are no such thing as flat planets but we are supposed to believe in flat earth
>Space is just a theory.
False.
Evolution is just a theory.
True.
>Round earth is just a theory.
False. Earth has been indisputably proven to be a slightly bumpy slightly oblate spheroid.
>space is just a theory
you're not actually this moronic right?
maybe, but your mom is a fact
say hi from me
Uranus
Space is so fricking gay. Sci-fi should focus on Earth and should be allegorical to the socio-economical problems that plague humankind like climate change or racism or class inequality.
thats been done to death though, i need a rom com at proxima centauri
I was just thinking about this recently, I think I agree. Space exploration doesn’t interest me really. Star Trek is okay and I like Cowboy Bebop but that’s about it. Prefer things to be more grounded, figuratively and literally.
Not surprising, only white men have that kind of inherent interest in exploring beyond our limits.
I’m white, anon. I appreciate space exploration irl and I think it’s very important, I just think it’s not very interesting in fiction.
You have no imagination and you only want to bring down fiction to your level.
Lol okay dork.
"space exploration" scifi is entirely built on having "no imagination" and wanting to bring everything down to "your level." space-columbus takes his space-boat to other space-continents to meet space-indians. oh maybe we can have a cold war with space russians in space, or a space plague, or a space religion and space feudalism, or maybe space world war 2 or a space detective solving space murder mysteries. it's all about rehashing shit you've seen a million times but everyone's wearing moronic outfits. least creative genre in the world.
You just described every genre you space tard, including litterature.
Worst post I've seen in 15 years
I want all women and gays off my board and I want them gone NOW! Space and Cinemaphile are for MEN
I want to strangle you for writing that
Hook, line and sinker
>science fiction
>climate change, racism and class inequality
glad we can agree
>racism HAS to be a science fiction concept
no
>Sci-fi movie
>The Moon is called Luna
Like it should be
A distant world with completely alien fauna in the style of H.R.Giger paintings. Biomechanical with a splice of directed and natural evolution.
i dont remember these from interstellar
Callisto cause it looks cool
Europa or Titan
A Niven ringworld
>tfw sci fi movie writers would rather make up Xi Omicron Scorpii E or "Xandarine" instead of showing us kino on Ganymede or something.
>set the movie on Quadrant 3's Gamma Epsilon 13
>"wow cool"
>set the movie on Callisto
>NASA probe launched five years later disproves everything about the movie
>This film is scientifically authentic...it is only one step ahead of present reality!
Kino.
Oy beratna. You earter-sebakas are no betta than the welwalla Martians sassake?
Here is the surface of Titan. It's from a side mission of the fabulous Cassini-Huygens mission around Saturn, I recommend the documentary, which is very Cinemaphile related and super comfy.
which doku
Tons of docus in fact, this one is good.
Fun fact these are not rocks, it's some kind of frozen gas.
gay lol
We didn't ask for your gender anon.
wow, such beautiful...rocks
There's actually a horror movie called the Titan find. It's a big budget rip of alien, but the sets were pretty comfy
whoa that's cool, check out this photo of the surface of Titan that was just released:
What point do you think you’re making in that confused little brain of yours
Titan has lakes actually, so frick those boring ass ice rocks
I think they were lucky to not land in one of those deadly lakes, or else there wouldn't be any picture at all.
the probe was designed to float for that reason
There might be spacefish down there.
>life evolving in liquid methane
>He fell for the only carbon-based lifeforms propaganda
I'm pretty sure any life evolving in liquid methane would be organic, by definition.
>he fell for the silicon meme
Silicon a shit. Its electrons are farther from the nucleus than ours, so they have way less energy and it needs high, steady temperatures to link with other elements. Silicon-based lifeforms would fall apart if they entered a slightly warmer or colder room.
>Titan has lakes actually, so frick those boring ass ice rocks
fricking lakes and rivers of liquid methane and ethane with a cryovolcano here and there.
It actually has a weather cycle based around liquid carbohydrates like water on earth.
>There might be spacefish down there.
That's Europa, the one that is a giant ocean with10-30km ice sheath that acts like continental mass to liquid water being magma on Earth.
What's in the white spots???!
I’ll drop some of my ideas for a sci fi setting in my novel
>Mars is partially terraformed, with some oceans near the poles. Most of the planet is still freakishly hot during the day and way below freezing at night. Imperialists live in the northern hemisphere, a religious cult lives in the near-inhospitable deserts along the equator, and southern Mars is in a war for control
>Venus is home to a floating sky academy where the elite students of earth can choose to study, prisoners mine a rare element on the acidic surface
>moon has been terraformed into a paradise for the wealthy rulers of earth
>earth is a globohomosexual overpopulated bureaucracy, with a one world government divided into sectors ruling over them from the moon
Terraforming the moon is a pretty absurd idea unless your setting has magic or something. Stick to something like building habitat cities.
Terraforming tech was a revolutionary technology in the fictional timeline. It’s set hundreds of years in the future.
But they worship the ancient Martian race so they’re kind of based.
>religious cult
dropped
I need more space kinos.
>Hardmode: No George Clooney, no meteors, no 2010 snoozefest.
most of these are fricking shit lol
2010 and Solaris are shit I'm sorry man. There has to be some entertainment value.
holy adhd
>no europa report
Apollo 13
Salyut 7
The Age of Pioneers
This movie is way better than it should be. I don't know how, or why.
It should be a B-movie but it somehow became a GOOD Doom movie.
It's actually way worse than it should be. John Carpenter making a movie with Pam Grier and Jason Statham set on Mars should be absolute kino, instead it's very underwhelming.
While technically not on the moon mostly, the dead space animated movies are worth watching
Enceladus, 100% has some kind of life forms swimming under the ice.
>inceladus
>has some kind of life forms swimming under the ice.
oh I wonder what
phobos
How fricked are we if there really is a gas giant planet 9?
not at all? why would we be?
There are theories that as the planet orbit enters the Kuiper belt it could fling asteroids into the inner solar system
It’s not a gas giant. It’s actually a tennis ball sized black hole in FAR orbit. That’s why it’s incredibly hard to find but fricks up gravity enough that we know something exists.
It's actually the overall gravitational effect of the Oort Cloud. There is no Planet 11. The only planets we have are the Classic 6 plus Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, and Eris.
Pretty sure a tennis ball sized black hole would have next to zero affect on the surrounding celestial bodies unless one accidentally ran into it.
A tennis ball black hole would be much greater than Earth itself in gravity terms
That's wholly dependant on it's mass.
The proposal theory is mass 5–15 MEarth (Earth masses).
Nope
Just calculated it. A tennis ball sized black hole would be about 4 Earth masses.
Size it's not the same as mass
Could there actually be another gas giant this far out?
I always found Io really gross, something about the colors and all those zit looking craters. Would be an interesting setting.
So Earth to Saturn is the range viable for settlements right? Rest are too hot or cold.
Isn't Mars like -100F on surface? How is that habitable?
There's a lot of pie in the sky talk about eventually terraforming Mars, increasing the atmospheric pressure, creating an artificial ozone equivalent, etc. There's a lot more issues to deal with than just temperature, but the planet is also our best bet at terraforming in our solar system.
yes but it's not habitable (for humans at least) without tech
with tech you could live in a vacuum and if you want to call that habitable then yea I guess
The heat death of the sun would probably occur before Mars could be terraformed
4b years anon until expansion
terraforming is literally magic to us as of now. Also you're missing the most important thing 'Gravity'. humans can't really live permanent in 1/3g.
Gravity would correct itself with introduction of atmosphere, as well as fixing the oxygen and temperature problems. The problem is creating a planetary atmosphere by hand is pretty much impossible
You can't really adjust the core of Mars.
Oh, and it would solve radiation issues and allow the sediment on Mars to stop being powdered daggers and actually erode into usable soil
>Gravity would correct itself with introduction of atmosphere
lol what?
Mass would cease to freely exit the planet, meaning a very slow growth of the planets size, leading to an eventual increase in gravitational pull
Umm no. That's not how atmospheres work, for many, many reasons. Earth's atmosphere actually lessens gravity. The gravity of the atmosphere is pulling you upwards.
The mass of the atmosphere should have basically no effect on you (assuming spherical earth and atmospheric density determined uniquely by elevation). Shell theorem. The air above you is offset by all thr atmosphere on the other side of you.
>The air above you is offset by all thr atmosphere on the other side of you.
False. Gravity is an r to the minus 2 force. The air over China isn't pulling me as hard as the air over me because it's further away.
But there's more of it. This is the shell theorem and it's high school physics.
Sorry buddy, but you have no idea what you're talking about. The atmosphere's gravitational effect pulls up on objects at the surface of the Earth. It's negligible but it is there.
Only because the two conditions I mentioned (spherical earth and constant density when radius is held constant) aren't true, which could go any direction in terms of the atmosphere's collective gravitational pull on you. Again, this is exactly the shell theorem and it's a straightforward derivation. Stop skipping lectures.
An engineering impossibility or a scientific impossibility?
It doesn't. "Bending space" a la an Alcubierre drive or whatever the hot buzztech is would still run into issues of violating causality or relativity if it lets you get from point A to point B in some inertial frame quicker than light does.
>position magnetic dipole shield at Mars L1 Lagrange point, thus creating an artificial magnetosphere
>solar wind and radiation no longer a problem
NASA proposed this idea around 5 years back
>terraforming is literally magic to us as of now.
False. We have all the tech needed to do it on Mercury, Venus, the Moon, Mars, possibly Ceres, Pluto, and Eris. We would just rather spend our money on subhuman welfare recipients.
>Also you're missing the most important thing 'Gravity'. humans can't really live permanent in 1/3g.
Absolutely false.
>False. We have all the tech needed to do it on Mercury, Venus, the Moon, Mars, possibly Ceres, Pluto, and Eris. We would just rather spend our money on subhuman welfare recipients.
ok then why don't we do it on earth? like terraform deserts etc
what are you on about? how will the mass grow? where would it come from?
It's almost like rocks in space constantly bombard other planets. We rarely notice because our fully functional atmosphere burns 99% of them up
you know if you combine all of the asteroids in the astroids belt it'd only make up of 1% of Mars's current mass. planets are fricking huge
It if you combine the ones we don't know
Checkmate
>ok then why don't we do it on earth? like terraform deserts etc
Because it's illegal. It would kill endangered desert animals and plants. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endangered_Species_Act_of_1973
Dumbass.
ok why not do just do it for like a square km, just for the demo?
your mum is not an asteroid anon
Today I saw a methhead lady get into her van with her chihuahua, only to find that she had 4 small children in there waiting for her. It looked like they lived in there. Another guy walked by wearing jeans that were almost to his knees, and you could see the feces running down his pants.
That’s who we’re supporting instead of exploring new worlds.
>but the planet is also our best bet at terraforming in our solar system.
Venus is almost the same size as Earth and would have the same gravity. It would just need a lot of terraforming to do something about the high pressure and heat.
Just turn the heater off
>Venus is almost the same size as Earth and would have the same gravity. It would just need a lot of terraforming to do something about the high pressure and heat.
Benis is pretty simple. Put orbital shades around it until it cools and the atmosphere precipitates. The problem is turning sulfuric acid snow into something useful.
The problem is it has no magnetic field
So grow on
-100F isn't really that bad. We have permanent antarctic stations that are able to handle that kind of temperature.
>99% of planets in the universe are desert planes like tattooine or rocky moons.
I'm tired of sand
Gas planets are like half of all planets. Other than that, ice and ocean worlds are presumed to be pretty common.
>Gas planets are like half of all planets. Other than that, ice and ocean worlds are presumed to be pretty common.
Bullshit. There are ten planets and only four are gas planets.
4 out of 10 sure does sound like basically half mate.
>4 out of 10 sure does sound like basically half mate.
If a political candidate wins 60-40, it's a giant landslide. Not "basically half."
Our system is really rare from our current understanding
there are 8 planets 4 of which are gas planets
I bet he counts Ceres and Pluto
he counted naptune and uranus which are not exactly gas giants
Counting Neptune and Uranus makes 8 and nobody mentioned gas giants
What?
>there are 8 planets 4 of which are gas planets
Umm nope. There are 10 planets:
1. Mercury
2. Venus
3. Earth
4. Mars
5. Jupiter
6. Saturn
7. Uranus
8. Neptune
9. Pluto
10. Eris
The "clear the orbit" nonsense is obviously bullshit. You're telling me that if Jupiter's orbit was a bit messy with asteroids Jupiter wouldn't be a planet?
Ridiculous.
>The "clear the orbit" nonsense is obviously bullshit. You're telling me that if Jupiter's orbit was a bit messy with asteroids Jupiter wouldn't be a planet?
that's not how gravity works moron
Of course gravity works that way in the right system. Jupiter was only able to clear its orbit because of serendipitous outside features of this solar system. There are plenty of solar systems in junky areas of the cosmos where Jupiter-type planets are never able to clear their orbits.
>There are plenty of solar systems in junky areas of the cosmos where Jupiter-type planets are never able to clear their orbits.
you made this up wannabe spaceBlack person
Not all solar systems are in clean areas, tard. Plenty of gas giants have junky orbits in junky areas and in young solar systems. Do you think Jupiter's orbit was always clear from day one?
And guess what? Eventually, on a long enough time scale, Ceres, Pluto, Eris, and a couple other objects will clear their orbits. We just aren't there yet.
>Eventually, on a long enough time scale, Ceres, Pluto, Eris, and a couple other objects will clear their orbits. We just aren't there yet.
LOL this eternally BTFOs the Pluto-isn't-a-planet homosexuals
post 10 examples of these exo systems. you are confusing a junky system with a planetary disk right now.
>Eventually, on a long enough time scale, Ceres, Pluto, Eris, and a couple other objects will clear their orbits. We just aren't there yet.
not they wont god damn you are dumb
>post 10 examples of these exo systems. you are confusing a junky system with a planetary disk right now.
I can't because I'm not an autistic homosexual who memorizes the name and location of every single alleged exoplanet. And I'm not confusing anything. There are plenty of reasons a system could have a gas giant with an unclear orbit:
1. Youth
2. Junky area
3. Unusual gravitational configuration of the entire system
4. Resonating binary/multinary star cluster with planets in a gravitationally stable non-circular orbit
The "cleared the neighborhood" thing was always fake and gay. The astronomers who decided it were observational amateurs with zero physics credentials who do not understand planetary physics at all. Actual planetary physicists still consider Pluto a planet, they just don't advertise because of R*ddit/Twitter cancellation.
>I can't
of course you cant because you made shit up pretending to be smart. ill give you a freebee. all star systems are believed (notice i didnt say confirmed) to have planetoids (comets and asteroids for your moronic brain) and an oort cloud
Anon, you can understand planetary science without memorizing the details of all new exoplanet discoveries. I quit following all that after Trappist-1. And none of the equipment we currently have discovering these things is likely to identify a junky-orbit Jupiter because the local area would be too photonically garbled for the telescope to resolve.
>And none of the equipment we currently have discovering these things is likely to identify a junky-orbit Jupiter because the local area would be too photonically garbled for the telescope to resolve.
so you just made up the whole junky orbit thing then and claimed it as fact?
You missed five others moron
No I didn't.
Yes you did.
You include all the known dwarves or none at all, moron.
>You include all the known dwarves or none at all, moron.
Well, anything not capable of gravitationally binding a non-trivial atmosphere is not a planet. That's higher level than this thread deserves, but in truth Pluto/Eris are about as low as you can go.
Makemake me stop then homosexual
Makemake is some gay leftist shit. I call it Easter.
>leftist
You people are mindbroken
Anon, it is undisputed that Makemake is a stupid-ass name picked by a leftist to suck up to dumbass South Pacific islanders who haven't even discovered the wheel.
>dude Reddit and leftists!
>planetary nomenclature is never political
Umm...
>Pluto
>Eris
not planets, simple as
>You're telling me that if Jupiter's orbit was a bit messy with asteroids Jupiter wouldn't be a planet?
Yes, because then Jupiter would've been the size of Pluto or something. The reason there's no debris in its orbit, is because it was massive enough to clear it. But of course you knew this.
>Yes, because then Jupiter would've been the size of Pluto or something. The reason there's no debris in its orbit, is because it was massive enough to clear it. But of course you knew this.
Except that's not correct. There are plenty of scenarios where a large object (Mars size or larger) would be unable to clear its orbit of asteroid-type objects. There are Jupiters out there who exist in Ceres-type orbits because of the local gravitational neighborhood.
Prove it
Prove what, that some stars exist in areas with lots of junk, and therefore planets around them can't clear their orbits?
LOL why would I need to prove something that anyone with a modicum of knowledge of celestial physics knows?
>There are Jupiters out there who exist in Ceres-type orbits because of the local gravitational neighborhood.
>Provides examples
>Cannot provide evidence
im laughing my ass off at his cope too. he doesnt deserve the (You)'s anymore
when stars actually become stars their solar wind pushes all the "junk" away. this happens in the first 10 million years of a 10 billion year lifespan
>Ganymede
More like Gaymede
Istvaan V
All tomorrow's as a series where each Era is its own short season.
>it’s a fa/tv/irgins try to Cinemaphilepost episode
Stay in your lane morons.
Frick you Black person, you dorks had your chance and we still don't have moonbases or Mars colonies. We need a doer not a thinker now egghead.
Um, sweetie, we have to land a Woman and a Person of Color on the moon first (not asian). Old privileged white men made Women of Color do all the work to get to the moon in the first place, and they took all the credit.
The future is female, Black, and queer, sweetie.
There is currently a woman destroying decades of work on the ISS
Source? Curious about this if true
Basically this but blacker
>one of the 5 Cinemaphile posters is getting uppity
Kek
So jupiter's core. I know we theorize it has a solid core, but do we have any idea how big that core is?
I think it's liquid solid.
Assuming you could stand the pressure it's probably very fluid as a core goes. You wouldn't notice going though compared to halfway in the planet.
we would never colonize exoplanets
we would never reach the nearest star
we would never colonize planets
we would never leave our solar system
best we could hope for is a moon colony. that's the reason we don't see fricking aliens around because we're all doomed to be a single planet species.
Whether you think you can, or you think you can’t—you’re right.
not really in this case. space is huge and there are laws of physics
>it’s impossible to fly around the world. The sky is huge and there are laws of physics.
birds could fly, does anything travel faster than light?
Birds can’t really sustain flight for long and they’re very light. It’s not comparable to a plane. Nothing natural flies like a jet.
jets don't break laws or physics or causality
Many physicists thought sustained manned flight was impossible. Until they did it.
When the first project manhattan tests were prepared scientists were making bets if an explosion this hot will ignite the atmosphere.
The roll was something like 54-46 to no.
>steals ur enterprise
>flies back to when your grandpa who built the enterprise was born
>kills him
WHAT NOW, SMARTASS?
that is nothing compared to FTL travel
>Birds can’t really sustain flight for long
Umm...
>zone of no resistance
>put any amount of force exertion to one side
>get propelled forever
Just don't hit anything on the way and you can go anywhere
>In a spaceship you can go anywhere you want, he said to himself out loud.
Kek need an edit of that now.
>there could be Martians here
>I've never been in this planetary environment before
Eventually we'll probably figure out some kind of FTL travel. That doesn't mean it will be feasible to colonize space though. There's probably things like the time dilation that occurs from your relative speed on whatever planet you go to that prevents it. Humanity would basically have to go there and stay in isolation because the relative time between it and Earth would get too far out of alignment.
If we could travel 99.9999% of speed of light we could reach Andromeda in 11 years factoring all the time dilation.
Dilate
>11 years
yea for those on board ship
rest of humanity wouldn't know for 2 million years
exactly
don't care about some homosexual going to andromeda if I can't know about it for 5 million years
Then why do you go yourself homosexual? 11 years of five million the world is still advancing without you.
lol imagine leaving for andromeda and meanwhile earth got so advanced, those homosexual that left after you were already there when you reach just to make fun of you
>Look who FINALLY came out of his light speed travel
Kek
imagine getting space travel cucked KEK
>I can't talk about it on Twitter!!!!
So?
5 million*
The solution is obviously figuring out teleportation instead of light speed travel
that seems like the only solution
It really is. Bending space itself is the only way; spacetime relativity means traveling FTL (if it’s even possible) will make it pointless
how does it work though? would the planet/bodies be bent too which comes in the path?
>mfw physics teacher tried explaining time dilation to me
Sure Mr.Wizard so I could just fricking zipzap between The sun and Alpha Centauri and live for 100000000000000000000000000000 years
yeah It do be like that tho
You don't necessarily he to be going the speed of light. Something like warp travel might be possible to get around the effects of time dilatation, but who knows how feasible it would be to actually use it like say being in a warp bubble messes up your physiology or something. Just that whatever body you land on is going to have it's own relative speed and thus time may be faster or slower there compared to Earth.
Space is very empty, but there's logistical things you can figure out. Map all the major bodies and use AI to help with navigation and such.
Maybe eventually there'll be a way to fold space like in Dune or some kind of portal like Stargate.There's also issues with communication over such long distances.
FTL would break causality no matter how it's done
Or it just breaks relativity and we keep causality. FTL, causality, and relativity are incompatible as a group though. Probably FTL is the one to scrap.
What happens when you hit something going at the speed of light? Space is too full of random debris to travel like that
>Space is too full of random debris
Space is fricking enormous anon. There are hundreds of miles between each rock
Watch this and thank me later.
And to answer OP, Io.
Its Sol and Luna.
No one will ever call it The Sun and The Moon.
>Luna
*Selene
Wait where's Pluto?
>people in this thread believing that space is real
it really feels like a grand conspiracy theory given how many millions of things would have to go exactly right to have life on this planet. Almost like someone did this this deliberately.
does anybody have this podcast available for free? He's paywalled it
callisto
its outside of Jupiters major radiation, but has resources to build with, likely one of the first major hub of the jovian area when we move into space
Imagine lurking this thread being such an moron that you can't even confidently contribute.
Bums me out that we can't even go say hi to the neighbours.
what are the red stars outside of Barnard's orbit
These aren't stars. These are eyes. And they are coming closer
analog horror gay stfu
for u
more red stars
some wise stars
Where is Wolf 359
farther than those wise ass stars
post the most kino website space map/engine, I use this.
https://www.solarsystemscope.com/
The size of the universe unnerves me. Imagine being out there with just a space suit while you see your spaceship slowly drift out of reach
This thought is one I have had many times, usually when it's dark and I'm trying to get to sleep but cannot. I don't know if I'd ever go into space even if I had the option bros.
If it makes any better you are constantly falling through space on a big rock.
At least the rock is big enough to have an atmosphere and a couple of places to go to
I'd go to space but I will never EVER leave the spaceship. I'll just stay inside and get drunk in zero G
Look at this planetlet and laugh
So what's in the middle?
Supermassive ultragigablack hole with accretion disk brighter than a bajillion suns, and a wormhole to another universe?
Just a big, stable black hole.
Black holes are just wormholes to another universe. Simple as
It's the best onahole in all of space
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress
>sci-fi movie
>the moon is called "Lunar"
The biggest asspull I've ever heard and will never believe is Antimatter.
"Dark matter" is just a broad term for something we don't understand; there being a discrepancy between mass and its gravity.
Dark matter is real.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flyby_anomaly
we already dont understand gravity around earth and the planets
Antimatter =/= Dark Matter
we can create Antimatter, in fact its one of the main things that is happening in CERN
>mfw a CERND physicist smashes random electrons and neutrons together for 0.00000000000000001 nanoseconds before it decays and calls it a new element and collects €1m dollar nobel prize
>NOO YOU CAN'T JUST MAKE MONEY FROM SMASHING THINGS TOGETHER IN WHAT'S BASICALLY A BILLION DOLLAR TUBE
Admit it, you are just upset
Living the dream
Antimatter and dark matter are different. You can go to any major regional hospital and find devices that use antimatter.
Darks don't matter
dark matter hands are behind this post
>You will never make a green star
The sun's peak hf output is green.
Not visable
I thought there was only 9 planets. Wtf is this bullshit
There are 10. Eris is #10.
it's called Iris you nimrod
reddit
There are four rocky planets, four gas planets, six dwarf planets and nearly 200 moons.
Have you heard of a moon?