In this thread we talk about lesser known DC/Marvel characters.
I'd never heard of Jack Monroe until I was browsing a super soldier list.
>A former sidekick to Captain America, Jack Monroe abandoned his mentor when he became disillusioned with the hero's lack of finite action against the super-villains they fought. He later became the notorious serial killer known as Scourge.
I followed some of Nomad's solo series a hundred years ago. It was painfully "ripped from the headlines" to the point it had an arc where someone was running around public bathrooms at the beach INJECTING PEOPLE WITH AIDDDDDDDS!!!!1!
I seem to remember them killing him off as a big ugly joke not too many years back now. Really left a bad taste in my mouth.
>It was painfully "ripped from the headlines" to the point it had an arc where someone was running around public bathrooms at the beach INJECTING PEOPLE WITH AIDDDDDDDS!!!!1!
What the frick
Jack was hanging around with a lot of fringe people and outcasts and got caught up with a small clinic that was part of the underground network in Texas and starts going out with a woman there who was a nurse. Where the two of them have been, men are getting injected by dirty needles and infected with AIDS and it turns out to be Jack's girlfriend because she's mentally unbalanced due to an incident when she was a nurse where she unknowingly used a dirty needle on a kid. Story ends with her realizing how screwed up she is and injecting herself as Jack leaves her for the cops to deal with.
Nicieza is so fricking pretentious.
Jack was a pretty good character. He was basically Nicieza's pet character and I think he did a good job of making him work as an anti-hero in a cape setting in a way that someone like Punisher doesn't. Fundamentally good but very rough around the edges. A lot of his guns were more for show and to scare people/give him a mental edge than for killing. But he was angry and had no qualms about busting seriously injuring or killing scumbags if he felt he had to but the more extreme things like that were very rare. I think Nicieza did a really good job of portraying someone who was well meaning but deeply flawed in the same sort of way he did with Zemo (and not making either of them feel the same). Really sucks how Brubaker just casually killed him off so we could get Bucky and the lame-ass Winter Soldier shit.
His solo series is him running around with a baby girl who he basically kidnapped because the girl's mother was a drug addicted prostitute who he felt wasn't fit to raise her. It would have definitely qualified for being "woke" I guess because Jack pals around with bums, prostitutes and other people living on the fringes and it deals with shit like racial tensions (there's an issue or two that are about Rodney King and the L.A. Riots), homophobia in the south, AIDS and other social issues.
Speaking of AIDS, I think Mia Dearden's only shown up like once or twice since the reboot and has been effectively replaced by Emiko Queen both in the Arrow Family and teen hero pantheon. I guess because DC doesn't like the idea of one of their more prominent teen heroes being an underage prostitute with AIDS.
Is it not stunning and brave enough for em
Williamson recently brought her back at least.
Why does every character need a token brown sidekick
That's Connor Hawke I assume who's been around since the mid-90s.
>DEI character has been around that long
shame
For a while some artists even forgot that he was supposed to be Blasian with blond hair, and it got the tumblrbutts extra rustled.
>DEI
Opinion Discarded
>t. DEI
Yes anon. Token minority characters have been around at least since the 70s. Half a century ago. Stop pretending it's new.
The rot runs deep.
What does the N stand for?
[email protected]
>NaziStomper6969
You're Whiter than I expected
No Mad as in you can't make him angry and he always knows how to reply to something without sounding mad.
Andrea Sterman from the current Moon Knight stuff first showed up in Jack's original miniseries. She was another pet character of Nicieza's because he used her as a supporting character in that and the ongoing, the Citizen V mini, and then his Thunderbolts run. I think MacKay is the first person besides him to use her.
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Andrea_Sterman_(Earth-616)
What an in depth wiki page.
Who the hell is this and how did she get in the Justice League?
French hero who was actually twins sharing the role who was added when the JLI added a European spinoff. One of them was killed in Justice League Europe in 1995 and the other was killed a few years later in Starman.
He needs to be in more things.
Like Fabius Bile Jr.
Fauna Faust, obscure Outsiders villain from the mid-'90s, daughter of Felix Faust and a lesbian. Something about her look is neat.
>and a lesbian.
Nice.
She was part of Strike Force Kobra in the one issue it appeared in. Her lover was her teammate Syonide who died telling Looker that she would have been nice in a threesome with her and Fauna.
What a way to go.
Specifically she said it and was then strangled by the hulking bear-man in that image who was in love with Looker.
>he was so threatened by it he had to kill her
She won
They really make no bones about it being a coomer team.
You left out the girlfriend also killed Halo.
Different Syonide. '90s Syonide had died in her first and only appearance (I had it wrong, it was Eradicator who killed her) but then randomly showed up alive again in the Stuart Moore/Jamal Igle Firestorm run.
Halo's whole thing is just obtuse. She's an alien being inhabiting the body of a dead girl named Violet Harper. Then in the '90s series she's killed alongside another woman named Marissa (the ex-wife of one of the Outsiders members) and she gets put into her body while Kobra resurrects the Violet body as part of Strike Force Kobra presumably to mess with them. Then every time she's appeared since the end of the '90s series she's been in the Violet body again because I guess artists are lazy and just assume she looks like she did in the '80s.
Presumably she just transferred back into Violet's body.
The Marissa Halo appeared in some things like Wonder Woman heroines mega fight, but it was around Infinite Crisis when they put her back to the Violet look. Superboy Prime punch or laziness.
bad time for the outsiders since Looker and technocraft both died in Infinite Crisis. And then got retconned back to life but never got a speaking part again
I'm having a giggle at Batman stopping Katana from attacking Halo's parents.
Ghosts and her Soul/ghost sword?
Kek
>I'm the only parent she needs!
>They were her parents first.
>Doesn't count!
>Your daughter calls me mommy too
good cover
Who are the other coombait villains?
>redhead with whip
Syonide, lesbian and Fauna's girlfriend.
>blue chick
Spectra, Halo's original body revived by Kobra.
>blonde
Windfall, probably the saddest and most miserable heroine in comics. Only there because she thinks Spectra is Halo and Halo is her best friend.
>snake armor girl
Lady Eve, lover of Kobra's leader.
>loose looking brown chick
Dervish, a Quraci woman who had been part of a team called the Jihad. Had a rough alliance with the Outsiders for a bit because they promised to help her find her lover (her teammate Manticore) until she turned on them one of the members revealed that he had accidentally killed Manticore. I don't think she's showed up past that series.
I think Spectra was supposed to be the woman whose body halo was in. She had some lines that alluded to that like "wanting her body back"
That's what I mean. Spectra was the Violet Harper body and possibly personality as IIRC it was established at one point in the original run that the real Violet Harper was actually a giant b***h unlike Halo/Gaby.
I thought the implication was that she was Marissa, the mob wife whose body halo was in at the time?
Yeah, there was also some background setting where if Gaby used the violet aura it'd give Violet back control of the body (because VIOLET).
I guess somehow the soul/persona survived and then the body being reanimated as Spectra gave Violet that control. I do remember Spectra went missing and was never killed or captured, so they did leave her out there as some dangling thread.
Alas she died in her first storyline and nobody cares about that run. Like nobody ever brings back Technomage either.
She got blown up by her father but then he brought her back a few issues later and she was alive and free to live her life after Felix was defeated. If she and Felix were actually used I could see them being basically DC's Daimon Hellstorm and Satanna.
But I do like that her and Syonide get a moment of what looks like genuine and sweet affection in their brief appearance together. It's the kind of thing you rarely see from villains.
Did he bring back Syonide too?
No but like I said, she randomly showed up alive again in an issue of the 2000s Firestorm series. Fauna showed up in an issue of Wolfman's Raven solo from a couple of years back but had a generic personality, worse look and was killed in the same issue.
I wonder why DC loves killing lesbians. They had Shimmer and Scream Queen be in love in a Suicide Squad issue and killed both of them off in the same issue in the most unnecessary way possible
Kitrina Falcone, aka Catgirl, one of the characters that haven't showed up post-Flashpoint.
>Native representation
>Is an actually cool character
It's been like 20 years since his last appearance as far as I know.
he showed up in Agents of Wakanda but he was just set dressing in that book along with most of the cast, he is also the star in a Marvel voices story which doesn't really work in 616 but was competent enough which makes it one of the best story written for one of those books
Phantasm I don't think we've seen much
cool look
Never really had much of a point. Same reason she was never used in the DCAU after Mask of the Phantasm beyond the cameo in Epilogue (which was originally intended to tbe the final DCAU episode).
He was probably based on The Reaper.
Nope.
Which is the cheap copy
Phantasm was based on Reaper from Batman: Year Two. If you mean DC's Reaper vs. Grim Reaper from Marvel, then Grim Reaper precedes Reaper by almost 20 years.
>If you mean DC's Reaper vs. Grim Reaper from Marvel, then Grim Reaper precedes Reaper by almost 20 years.
yes that.
Also nice trips.
literal who
yes, that is the point of the thread
N-Word man.
he IS...going to say it.
he ISN'T going to turn down his car stereo around certain people.