>People wanting this to be referenced in some fashion since Shocker had a fairly decent role in the first game >Instead kill him and over half of the other villains off because Insomniac can’t be fucked to make boss fights around them
Scorpion’s death was all the audience needed to get the point across Kraven is not to be trifled with. On a meta level it works too cause Scorpion was the first “anti-spider-man” character. Such a strange and frankly, dumb decision to kill off the rest of the Sinister Six offscreen
How could you forget such iconic characters like the Frost Pharaoh? Or Selim? (Miles's evil clone, get it? Selim is Miles backwards!) What about Hightail? Everyone likes the newest speedster!
> Ultimatum > Frost Pharoah > The Assessor > Rabble
He got villains
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Anonymous
Why would they do Rabble when she's already just Phin. Ultimatum wouldn't work either
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Anonymous
>by the end of SM2
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Anonymous
They can introduce them retard he has only been active for 2 years he will obviously get more villains or did peter just start out with a huge fucking roster
Why would they do Rabble when she's already just Phin. Ultimatum wouldn't work either
They already confirmed this is part of spider-verse you could just have him fight a prowler-miles acting as ultimatum
1 month ago
Anonymous
>They already confirmed this is part of spider-verse
They have two conflicting Spider-Verses in this world and it's retarded
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Spider-Verse
The Spider-Verse is already a stupid concept, the second movie ruined the Marvel multiverse
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Anonymous
>> Ultimatum
It is practically impossible to put this character in the game. Furthermore, he only works in the comic canon.
>People wanting this to be referenced in some fashion since Shocker had a fairly decent role in the first game >Instead kill him and over half of the other villains off because Insomniac can’t be fucked to make boss fights around them
I kind of sped past that part. I know Shocker, Scorpion and Vulture died but Rhino too?
Rhino is not confirmed, but a glitched room in Kraven’s hideout shows his helmet mounted on a wall. Realistically they could bring him back because it’s not said in game
I imagine they didn’t want the game to feel bloated with all these villains running around, but past Spider-Man games have managed to handle it just fine so Insomniac doesn’t really have that as an excuse. They’re not great at designing boss fights, for fucks sake the Miles game had you fight Rhino 3 different times.
They could have just been chilling in prison, or just in hiding after the breakout biding their time. I’d have incorporated Shocker as well because of
and because two people have taken the Shocker in Spidey canon irrc, so just kill one of em. Also, Shocker could have been a good symbiote boss fight considering the sound weakness.
In my head, I would have written the sequence like: > Kraven is now hunting Shocker > Shocker does something to really piss off Pete (maybe attack F.E.A.S.T) > he says the meme > chase mission > boss fight > Pete wins > Shocker gets away > Kraven kills/kidnaps Shocker when he thinks he’s in the clear
Anon, that’s a pretty good idea for a sequence in the game. Unfortunately it can not be included due to money constraints. We have to spend it making the symbiote suits look super fucking wet, please understand.
That’s actually a really good point. The first game may not have had a lot of interactions with the most of the bad guys, but what is there (Electro, Shocker, even fucking Tombstone) showed an oddly friendly air that Spidey does have with some of his villains. It would have been great to see his animosity towards Kraven really start once he learns about their deaths, especially Shocker since the guy really wasn’t all that bad, just a super genius who used his tech to rob people. God the more I think about this game the worse it gets.
Spectacular and TAS. TAS did it so well that it forever became a part of Spidey’s lore. Spectacular did a great job expanding the ideas and really making the descent feel natural, topped off with a reality check by Flash of all people.
I don’t play video games, but everything I hear about the game seems like crap. Kraven is a great way to go and he should actually fit well in a Symbiote arc, but it just seems like they handled it poorly.
It’s because they want peter and his characters out of the way for miles and his amazing villains anon
>Uncle >Miles but bad
Who else does he even have? 2099 and Mayday at least have a gallery.
Why would we want to play against the same bosses in the second game? We got brand new boss fights that are way better in the second game. I can clearly tell who did and who didn't play the games.
You’re gonna look me in the eye and tell me the Grizzly boss fight was better than the Shocked fight. Great job on Insomniac using the same Lab location for a boss fight twice btw, who wants to fight around NYC?
Just because it’s the same character doesn’t mean the fight can’t be updated to be better. I was hoping we’d have some solo fights with the Sinister Six rather than the duo battles we got in the first game. It’s just wasted potential on Insomniacs part but what’s done is done.
I’m still more annoyed about Harry being Agent Venom, just have him be fucking Venom if you have to but don’t go and give him Flash’s stuff while also taking Eddies.
I feel like the (new?) writers don't know or care about Flash as a character. In the first game it's implied that Peter and Flash have gone through their respective developments and become friends, but literally every single mention of him in the sequel is about how much of an asshole he is and how he was a big bully to Peter and Harry
Which is gay because Flash and Peter's relationship is great. For years they were just massive cocks to each other because they were forced to interact due to being in the same friend group, Flash goes to war gets PTSD causing Pete to step back a bit with the bantz and they end up becoming genuine friends and even live together for a bit
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Anonymous
I bitch about it all them time but I fucking hate how Peter barely has a supporting cast in the games. Besides Miles, Peter's only other friend that we actually see is MJ. We get a bit of Robbie through phone dialog (which can be given to Miles too so does it really count?) and we get one flashback scene with Peter and Jonah (who is relegated to MJ's crap everywhere else).
Outside of that one card in the first game there's no mention of Flash, Betty, Gloria, or Liz. They are completely underutilized and it would be easy to at least give a side quest for each one. Harry only shows up specifically so he can be the main bad guy for easy drama.
What makes this all fucking worse is that Miles actually has a relatively large supporting cast in the games. He has Rio, Aaron, Ganke, and Hailey plus the people in Harlem who know him PLUS Albert and Cindy now. Seeing the ending where Miles sits down with his family for his side of the ending, then Peter's ending also being him sitting down with Miles's family because he has no friends was depressing as fuck
They keep referring to him as that high school bully afterwards though, all the way up until the final boss even.
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Anonymous
Well Harry wasn’t around for that and it might be nostalgia clouding Peter’s brain. But yeah it is weird you’d think he’d tell Harry him and Flash are cool now
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Anonymous
I mean, he should've been around for that. I don't see why he wouldn't have been. Harry was only gone for two years and theoretically they would've buried the hatchet in college. I remember the writers being different between the games so maybe the new ones don't care about comic stuff and so they don't know or care about Flash's development
It wasn’t referenced in the game anon, the fact they you bendisfags have to resort to lying about what miles adds EVERY TIME has shown you for the likes you are.
Spectacular and TAS. TAS did it so well that it forever became a part of Spidey’s lore. Spectacular did a great job expanding the ideas and really making the descent feel natural, topped off with a reality check by Flash of all people.
I don’t play video games, but everything I hear about the game seems like crap. Kraven is a great way to go and he should actually fit well in a Symbiote arc, but it just seems like they handled it poorly.
[...] >Uncle >Miles but bad
Who else does he even have? 2099 and Mayday at least have a gallery.
Yeah, his amazing villains like… uh.
He’s got that evil probably white guy, and uhhhhhhhh maybe a clone?
Spectacular Spider-Man had the best build up with the symbiote and sinister six and also the birth of venom. I think (I can’t remember it’s been a while) the show started sucking and then got canceled but for the most part SSM was dope
i heard the bird and the worm by the used on the radio on my way to see spider-man 3 in the theater back in the day. i was in my emo phase so i really liked both. i think about this every time either one comes up (this happens frequently because i'm still in my emo phase and i still like both)
What I like about the game version is that it isn't just making Peter aggressive, it's fucking with his mind like it's a drug. It makes him think he needs the symbiote
Spectacular obviously
Spider-Man 3. Any other answer is wrong.
Shalom correct anon
>People wanting this to be referenced in some fashion since Shocker had a fairly decent role in the first game
>Instead kill him and over half of the other villains off because Insomniac can’t be fucked to make boss fights around them
Scorpion’s death was all the audience needed to get the point across Kraven is not to be trifled with. On a meta level it works too cause Scorpion was the first “anti-spider-man” character. Such a strange and frankly, dumb decision to kill off the rest of the Sinister Six offscreen
It’s because they want peter and his characters out of the way for miles and his amazing villains anon
Yeah, his amazing villains like… uh.
The Maker by proxy due to Hickperson. That's it.
How could you forget such iconic characters like the Frost Pharaoh? Or Selim? (Miles's evil clone, get it? Selim is Miles backwards!) What about Hightail? Everyone likes the newest speedster!
>Miles and his amazing villains
Miles has literally no villans by the end of SM2, except maybe Screwball if she's out.
> Ultimatum
> Frost Pharoah
> The Assessor
> Rabble
He got villains
Why would they do Rabble when she's already just Phin. Ultimatum wouldn't work either
>by the end of SM2
They can introduce them retard he has only been active for 2 years he will obviously get more villains or did peter just start out with a huge fucking roster
They already confirmed this is part of spider-verse you could just have him fight a prowler-miles acting as ultimatum
>They already confirmed this is part of spider-verse
They have two conflicting Spider-Verses in this world and it's retarded
>Spider-Verse
The Spider-Verse is already a stupid concept, the second movie ruined the Marvel multiverse
>> Ultimatum
It is practically impossible to put this character in the game. Furthermore, he only works in the comic canon.
I kind of sped past that part. I know Shocker, Scorpion and Vulture died but Rhino too?
His head is in a part of kravens collection
Rhino is not confirmed, but a glitched room in Kraven’s hideout shows his helmet mounted on a wall. Realistically they could bring him back because it’s not said in game
It's very possible that Rhino died in Miles's game
I imagine they didn’t want the game to feel bloated with all these villains running around, but past Spider-Man games have managed to handle it just fine so Insomniac doesn’t really have that as an excuse. They’re not great at designing boss fights, for fucks sake the Miles game had you fight Rhino 3 different times.
They could have just been chilling in prison, or just in hiding after the breakout biding their time. I’d have incorporated Shocker as well because of
and because two people have taken the Shocker in Spidey canon irrc, so just kill one of em. Also, Shocker could have been a good symbiote boss fight considering the sound weakness.
In my head, I would have written the sequence like:
> Kraven is now hunting Shocker
> Shocker does something to really piss off Pete (maybe attack F.E.A.S.T)
> he says the meme
> chase mission
> boss fight
> Pete wins
> Shocker gets away
> Kraven kills/kidnaps Shocker when he thinks he’s in the clear
Anon, that’s a pretty good idea for a sequence in the game. Unfortunately it can not be included due to money constraints. We have to spend it making the symbiote suits look super fucking wet, please understand.
I just wonder why Peter wasn't more mad about it, especially guys he has tried to help.
That’s actually a really good point. The first game may not have had a lot of interactions with the most of the bad guys, but what is there (Electro, Shocker, even fucking Tombstone) showed an oddly friendly air that Spidey does have with some of his villains. It would have been great to see his animosity towards Kraven really start once he learns about their deaths, especially Shocker since the guy really wasn’t all that bad, just a super genius who used his tech to rob people. God the more I think about this game the worse it gets.
Spectacular and TAS. TAS did it so well that it forever became a part of Spidey’s lore. Spectacular did a great job expanding the ideas and really making the descent feel natural, topped off with a reality check by Flash of all people.
I don’t play video games, but everything I hear about the game seems like crap. Kraven is a great way to go and he should actually fit well in a Symbiote arc, but it just seems like they handled it poorly.
>Uncle
>Miles but bad
Who else does he even have? 2099 and Mayday at least have a gallery.
Why would we want to play against the same bosses in the second game? We got brand new boss fights that are way better in the second game. I can clearly tell who did and who didn't play the games.
You’re gonna look me in the eye and tell me the Grizzly boss fight was better than the Shocked fight. Great job on Insomniac using the same Lab location for a boss fight twice btw, who wants to fight around NYC?
Just because it’s the same character doesn’t mean the fight can’t be updated to be better. I was hoping we’d have some solo fights with the Sinister Six rather than the duo battles we got in the first game. It’s just wasted potential on Insomniacs part but what’s done is done.
I’m still more annoyed about Harry being Agent Venom, just have him be fucking Venom if you have to but don’t go and give him Flash’s stuff while also taking Eddies.
I feel like the (new?) writers don't know or care about Flash as a character. In the first game it's implied that Peter and Flash have gone through their respective developments and become friends, but literally every single mention of him in the sequel is about how much of an asshole he is and how he was a big bully to Peter and Harry
So there just isn’t ANYTHING to look forward to besides Pete’s bitch death huh?
Which is gay because Flash and Peter's relationship is great. For years they were just massive cocks to each other because they were forced to interact due to being in the same friend group, Flash goes to war gets PTSD causing Pete to step back a bit with the bantz and they end up becoming genuine friends and even live together for a bit
I bitch about it all them time but I fucking hate how Peter barely has a supporting cast in the games. Besides Miles, Peter's only other friend that we actually see is MJ. We get a bit of Robbie through phone dialog (which can be given to Miles too so does it really count?) and we get one flashback scene with Peter and Jonah (who is relegated to MJ's crap everywhere else).
Outside of that one card in the first game there's no mention of Flash, Betty, Gloria, or Liz. They are completely underutilized and it would be easy to at least give a side quest for each one. Harry only shows up specifically so he can be the main bad guy for easy drama.
What makes this all fucking worse is that Miles actually has a relatively large supporting cast in the games. He has Rio, Aaron, Ganke, and Hailey plus the people in Harlem who know him PLUS Albert and Cindy now. Seeing the ending where Miles sits down with his family for his side of the ending, then Peter's ending also being him sitting down with Miles's family because he has no friends was depressing as fuck
To be fair it was a flashback to before all that
They keep referring to him as that high school bully afterwards though, all the way up until the final boss even.
Well Harry wasn’t around for that and it might be nostalgia clouding Peter’s brain. But yeah it is weird you’d think he’d tell Harry him and Flash are cool now
I mean, he should've been around for that. I don't see why he wouldn't have been. Harry was only gone for two years and theoretically they would've buried the hatchet in college. I remember the writers being different between the games so maybe the new ones don't care about comic stuff and so they don't know or care about Flash's development
The game writers not even knowing enough to reference this shows you how little love went into this game
The fact that you don't even know it was referenced shows how little you know about the game.
It wasn’t referenced in the game anon, the fact they you bendisfags have to resort to lying about what miles adds EVERY TIME has shown you for the likes you are.
He’s got that evil probably white guy, and uhhhhhhhh maybe a clone?
He went hard
tpbp
Christopher Daniel Barnes
>>>I don't care
Spectacular Spider-Man had the best build up with the symbiote and sinister six and also the birth of venom. I think (I can’t remember it’s been a while) the show started sucking and then got canceled but for the most part SSM was dope
What is wrong with wearing black clothes?
I finger blasted my ex while watching Spider Man 3
These are the only times Pete acts anywhere close to his original depiction. The guy ain’t a nice guy.
Be kinda cool but never gonna happen to have not make him angry like how in the old comics it didn't but he still has to remove it.
Spectacular but Ben Jordan is so fucking hot.
The ones that didn't need his diversity replacement to save him.
Stop it Peter! You aren’t Steve Jobs!
i heard the bird and the worm by the used on the radio on my way to see spider-man 3 in the theater back in the day. i was in my emo phase so i really liked both. i think about this every time either one comes up (this happens frequently because i'm still in my emo phase and i still like both)
Insomniac’s Peter felt tame next to their take on Harry/Venom. Kraven even underscores that when he begs Peter to go deeper
1994 animated series was so much better than the rest adaptations, its not even funny
“You fill out that costume nicely.”
“You can web me up anytime.”
He has more rizz and live action
I hate Insomniac's Nu-Peter so much. What a terrible design for Pete.
Spectacular. Other two rush the fuck out of the progression to get to venom
Miles, THE BLACK SPIDER-MAN
What I like about the game version is that it isn't just making Peter aggressive, it's fucking with his mind like it's a drug. It makes him think he needs the symbiote
Spectacular did that too though, and it did it much better than the game did