Mostly pretending they get the character of Peter Parker because they've been told by youtubers that in the comics he's a 24/7 loser which didn't become a real thing until the story got hacky and very bad. Like. One More Day bad.
If this be my Destiny >Peter is trapped under some large debris >Needs to get out not only to save himself, but Aunt May too >Gets out through inner strength >Peter is triumphant
The tunnel >Peter is beaten up by Tombstone and tied up in some chains he should be able to break >Gets beaten up some more and begs Tombstone not to kill a neighborhood >Has to be let out of the chains by some recurring mook character >Still ends up being a ploy by Tombstone and Peter is tricked into helping him take over the Rose's turf >Peter is a fool
>Miles
Spider-Man Black Teenager is a long, long way away from replacing Peter. Miles may have a better reception now than when he was first introduced, but Marvel is nowhere near ready for that. They should just rip the bandaid off and stop making Peter Spidey altogether if they're really planning it.
I don't get why it's so fricking difficult.
Keep Pete-Spidey around for Avengers-level threats, and let him be happy with MJ.
Let Miles pick up the street level Spidey torch and run with it.
Keep Ben around for a Parker-luck punching bag.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Proof.
Yes. Self-inserters want spider-god.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Does a Miles comic sell as much as a Peter comic? Because if it doesn't sell at least as much, then it doesn't make sense to stop selling Peter comics any time soon.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nowhere near close
2 years ago
Anonymous
Zoomer characters never sell comics in the direct market because zoomers don't use the direct market
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Does a Miles comic sell as much as a Peter comic?
No and he never will. That's why legacy characters have never made sense outside of the Barbie toy argument. Peter as the primary Spider-Man will ALWAYS exist. I know Sony is trying to kill him off and make him an irresponsible manchild who can't move on as the status quo and stuff but the collective conciousness will always be drawn more to the original. We ain't dealing with shitters like Flash here.
2 years ago
Anonymous
we don't get real comic numbers since covid anymore
personally i doubt any comic is read by more then 50k people every week
2 years ago
Anonymous
Covid is a weak excuse used by everyone.
2 years ago
Anonymous
They should do a cobra kai style comic series with Peter being the Johnny Lawrence to Miles being Miguel. Peter has to balance his retirement with MJ and passing thr torch to miles and the other spider kid variants like Silk.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Frick no.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Never compared again Miguel with that abortion of spiderman.
And if it were like Cobra Kai, Kaine should be Miles trainer
2 years ago
Anonymous
Never compared again Miguel with that abortion of spiderman.
And if it were like Cobra Kai, Kaine should be Miles trainer
If it were like Cobra Kai, Peter would train his daughter likely Mayday and Eddie's son if Venom was his rival. The premise of Cobra Kai is that the iconic rival antagonist of the first movie becomes the main character, has a surrogate son while the hero takes care of his own and his rival's kid. Having Miles there would make no fricking sense unless he is supposed to become Venom.
2 years ago
Anonymous
How about you die.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Let Miles-
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Let Miles pick up the street level Spidey torch and run with it
Frick off, Milestard. The only thing he deserves is some Gobby dick in his mouth
2 years ago
Anonymous
Cinemaphile is consumed by gobbo tadger nuts.
2 years ago
Anonymous
no one wants to read Miles anything
2 years ago
Anonymous
They should do a cobra kai style comic series with Peter being the Johnny Lawrence to Miles being Miguel. Peter has to balance his retirement with MJ and passing thr torch to miles and the other spider kid variants like Silk.
The chains were literally compacting him if he tried to move, plus he was heavily beaten down by tombstone with a busted face and broken bones. Doomergays strike once again.
Was on the fence after the unmasking, omd ended any care I have about Spiderman.
Slott playing the make em angry game with his moronic morlun multiverse shit made me liking but disappointed to just
Hating Spiderman. I don't want to know this character anymore. It spit on a character Iiked and how it helped me through bad times as a kid.
I can't pick up or watch Spiderman anything anymore now.
And these people are so hard up for any ki d if clout with objectively just evil people in social media and want any kind of recognition that I honestly do t trust them with this character.
I quit.
Now I'm going go back to hiding any Spiderman anything thread.
Spider-sense doesn't automatically grant you the ability to operate complex machinery. Spider-sense is literally just a danger sense that senses danger and nothing more.
It's still stupid. He has amazing reflexes, insane dexterity, amazing mental reflexes and a high intellect, and is GREAT with mechanical machinery, and most importantly, is AMAZING with 3D maneuvering innately.
He should be an AMAZING pilot, and absoluitely incredible due to the Spider-sense. Writers just love shitting on Spiderman to raise their other characters up.
Spider sense is conditional prescience - basically one of the greatest possible powers to have and universal in its utility. Operating a plane is unlikely to be an issue for Peter given how intelligent he is. Would be be an ace? Perhaps not but he could at least brute force the basics. Saying he'd be a bad pilot is stupid. He could be but the base IQ give him a good chance of being otherwise.
That's fine, but advanced piloting is a combination of about 3 things in order of importance:
Ability to withstand multiple G's of force without passing out
Innate understanding of maneuvering and keeping track of target in a 3d environment
Reflexes
Spiderman has all 3 in spades. Not only that, he would have by far the strongest understanding of what movements impart what kind of forces on a planes wings, since his webslinging works entirely off of motion force he would easily intuit how much stress a turn would impart on a planes wings. NOT ONLY that, if he ever did try to turn too harshly, his precognition danger sense would fire and he could back off. Spidermans powerset is almost perfectly suited to being a fighter pilot, not to mention his intelligence, experience with machinery, and that he fricking has the web jet.
name me the last time a white man wasn't written as a idiot man child or weakling to make woman or blacks look good.
just show me one example of a page like this but with a white guy saying something like that to a woman/black guy.
Argh...
Granted that Spider-man of the 90s was still more mauture. JMS in 2005, wrote a pretty decent Peter Parker. His story arc has up and down, but Spider-man wasn't an idiot, he was very consistent andrespected.
This is a ,more acceptable exchange. Peter tries a few jokes, but immediately understands the situation.
It's from the Other if I'm remembering correctly. I wanna say this is the part where the Avengers realize Peter is "dying" so he goes around and asks for help from a bunch of other heroes.
Name one cape that doesn't have Bat in his name, that's more popular that Spider-Man.
If Spider-Man doesn't deserve special focus concerning everything, then are you suggesting that only Batman does? Or literally no one does ever?
Because analysing Spider-Man and Batman could probably teach a lot.
So do people want Spiderwank? Peter just jumps in and beats everyone with ease, acts like a badass, gets a girl, and then inspires everyone to be better?
>i want my superhero comic to feature an actual superhero who is cool and competent. and not a manchild idiot who get emasculated and belittled every storyline to push some far leftwing, white men bashing agenda
eh, yes. is that a controversial opinion? what do you think the "super" in superhero stands for?
No we want him to settle down and have his stories go from eternally down on his luck peter to stable trying to raise a family while being spider-man Peter and eventually Spider-Dad Peter
The fanboys brand loyalist who unironically keep buying and defending all this shit the writers pull with the character because of the mass popularity of the character.
This is why is better to just stop caring about spiderman at all, unless some extreme downfall hits the brand nothing will ever change for the character.
I honestly cant read long term American Superhero comics anymore. I just notice way too often discontinuity, abandoned storylines, recycled storylines, abandoned lore, constant story reframing, storylines cut-mid content during writer transitions... and worst of all, endless repetition. I can only take Spiderman suffering again, being reset to a shitty life, again, and having to rebuild a semblance of a decent life only to have the next writer do destroy everything and start again. Same thing with Iron Man, and so.
I just cant do it anymore. I dont know how you guys handle it. You read comics for 20 years and all you're left with is loathing for modern comics, but an inability to let go of something you loved.
It helps to let go of the ones that piss you off and try newer ones during that period, and repeat. Or just taking a long break from the genre completely and return when those writers are gone.
>first thing he does is make sure you get warned so you can get to safety or the villain's attack missed you >makes a joke AFTER
How did a fricking theme park ride of all things get it so right.
I LVOE MISERY PORN! SPIDER-MAN SHOULD BE MISERY PORN MY FAVOURITE E-CELEB TOLD ME THAT'S THE CORE OF HIS CHARACTER! CONSTANT MISERY BECAUSE HE'S A LOSER JUST LIKE MEEEEEEE
I mean the entire thing is that you pass if you believe that you are meeting the standards you hold yourself to.
So peter failing feels pretty inline with how he treats himself.
His "fans"
Not the real ones (who stopped buying D*sney product long ago) but the Mousecuck npcs who continue to purchase product to consoom, directly rewarding and legitimizing the ongoing rape of the character, the setting and entertainment media as a whole.
After like 3 straight mediocre runs of stagnation it's clear that Lowe is the common problem. Get rid of him. Then Peter might prosper in a similar way to Wally and Dick when Didio was kicked out.
Peter's life will get better once Gwen get revived the Mutants will see to that this will be his reward for all he has lost the Mutants owe him that much
Why the hell does the girl have the same hair and eyes as her then. Does the dude just have a fetish for red heads with green eyes. What fricking kid calls a random woman their mommy in six months
Because they wan't to frick with us as much as they can, before revealing that "haha, it's not her kids after all!".
I mean, remember Jackpot? Remember how many clues there were, that she's actually Mary Jane? And then came the revelation, that she's actually... A complet nobody! And now she's dead! Hope you liked it!
Ahh so I guess that means Norman banged MJ and not Gwen in reality he most likely made a illusion of him bangin Gwen With Mysterio's help since he probably though it wold be fun to mess with Peter's help, the real prostitute is MJ after all.
2 years ago
Anonymous
No Gwen still fricked Norrman and is judging Peter that he let it happen
2 years ago
Anonymous
>No Gwen still fricked Norrman and is judging Peter that he let it happen
Tsk tsk the Gwen which we will see in the ASM #10 is nothing but a celestial in order to throw fans off track, but I know better now the real Gwen will be revived by Mutans she will be back that's for certain but not as mutant but as a human.
2 years ago
Anonymous
No she wont
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes she will Mutans are now gods with the power to revive humans and their is no stopping that now besides this is something they owe Peter, And when it all over humanity will bow down before mutants.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nope that's just what Marvel wanted to you think it was MJ who banged Norman in reality and Peter is getting judged by a a celestial not the real Gwen it's just more smoke and mirrors from Marvel's half nothing more.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Sure budy lmao
2 years ago
Anonymous
Soon Norman bangin Aunt May in the Marvel 616 universe will become a reality anon May knows she can't resist Norman.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Norman and Otto fight fiht for May;s love
2 years ago
Anonymous
How about Norman and Otto both bang May together I want to see her experince the DP anon.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>3
That
s the mostt use she's had in 8 years
2 years ago
Anonymous
You still haven't found the Norman/MJ couple art to prop up your ship? Sad.
2 years ago
Anonymous
In all honesty I checked the internet but oddly enough I just can't seem to find that shit oh well you know what they say you win some you lose some.
The kid has her hair, her eyes and even her iconic smile dimples, you're being very dishonest if you continue to pretend this wasn't done on purpose.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's the point to make the reader believe one thing that explain it out to be something completely out of the left field. It's been done hundreds of times before
2 years ago
Anonymous
They played you homosexuals like a fiddle for 5+ years and you still haven't learnt anything
Comics are truly for morons
2 years ago
Anonymous
What is the name of that villain?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Kindred aka Harry but actually Gabriel AND Sarah Stacy but also clones but also demon spawn
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't really care about Spider-Man nowadays but I remember seeing an Evil Gwen Stacy with purple clothing and some weird scorpion tentacles a while ago. She looked pretty hot.
Yeah that was the character I was talking about. I will just ignore the clones and demon spawn thing and just think Kindred is an evil Gwen Stacy.
>How did she get kids in 6 months without some retconny magic bullshit
You forget that we don't how time much has passed since the end of the ASM Vol. 5 and the start of this vol for all we know more time had gone by then six months in reality.
>Six months. They even said so repeatedly
No we don't know how much time went by since the end of ASM Vol. 5 it ended with a cliffhanger remember I really don't why they bothered with that shit at all since it was obviously immediately forgotten.
All these spider-man threads are pointless and fricking stupid I should done this from the start still better later then never I suppose bye-bye thread.
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>Killing off Gwen Stacy was the beginning of the end for good Spider-Man writing, wasn't it
Which is is why she should never should died at all now look at the mess we are in today.
Yon still don't get do you Gwen has and always will be Peter's true love no matter what MJ never really mattered heck eveyone know that Peter And MJ only got serious after Gwen died Marvel knows that Gwen is Peter's true love in the end otherwise they never would botherd to undo Sins Past at all.
>Yon still don't get do you Gwen has and always will be Peter's true love
No it's Felicia but writers are too cowardly to accept the ideal cape pairing. A close second would be a threesome of Peter/MJ/Felicia. Gwen is just shit.
>Killing off Gwen Stacy was the beginning of the end for good Spider-Man writing, wasn't it
Which is is why she should never should died at all now look at the mess we are in today.
No one cares about your wife, Stan. MJ is Peter's true love and Gwen was never going to last. They made lemonade with her story though. Until clones at least.
Dan Slott Celebrates His Spider-Man Return and Ending the Spider-Verse
The Spider-Verse is coming to an end, and it's all Dan Slott's fault. The prolific writer is teaming up with artist Mark Bagley for a return to the Spider-Man franchise, after having penned a decade worth of stories for the web-slinger. Slott is kicking things off with a bang with Spider-Man #1, which kicks off "The End of the Spider-Verse." All of your favorite Spider heroes like Miles Morales and Ghost-Spider will take part in the story arc, along with new characters introduced in the Edge of Spider-Verse miniseries.
ComicBook.com spoke to Dan Slott about Spider-Man #1, collaborating with iconic Spidey artist Mark Bagley, the threat posed by villains Morlun and Shathra, creating new characters in Edge of Spider-Verse, and much more. We also have an exclusive look at Spider-Man #1, which goes on sale October 5th.
Returning to Spider-Man and Collaborating With Mark Bagley
ComicBook.com: What led you to come back to Spider-Man after you spent the last couple of years on Fantastic Four?
Dan Slott: I cannot quit this character. He is my favorite character in all of fiction. Suck it, Hamlet. What it really was like, people would ask me when I was leaving Amazing Spider-Man, "Will you ever come back to Amazing Spider-Man?" And my answer was always, "Never. I never want to do that again. I never want to do it twice a month." It was very much like if you've seen that clip or that GIF of Lucy from I Love Lucy at the chocolate factory.
The second you finish one issue, you're getting another one out. To do it that quickly, you always have to write stories out of sequence so the next artist can start their story. So you're always writing chapter one of this story, chapter four of that story, chapter two of that story. And I was like, "Gah!" I always said getting the gig was a monkey's paw.
>Dan Slott Celebrates His Spider-Man Return and Ending the Spider-Verse >All of your favorite Spider heroes like Miles Morales and Ghost-Spider will take part in the story arc
Burn all of capeshit down
You got your greatest wish, but not the way you want it. Being able to write adjectiveless Spider-Man, being able to write just Spider-Man and do it once a month, everything I've always wanted. This is kind of like coming back to Spidey on my own terms and going, "Oh, yeah. I could write one issue of Spidey for the rest of my life." Never want to do anything else. It's great. And I get to do it with Mark Bagley! That's insane.
Most people remember him for Carnage. For some generations, he's the guy who was there from Amazing, from Ultimate Spider-Man #1. And Ultimate Spider-Man, that came out like 18 issues a year for the longest time. And when you add that to his run on Amazing and all the other projects he's done, like the Chip Zdarsky book Life Story, you're just like, "Oh, my God." He is synonymous with Spider-Man. We've only worked together on a Spidey thing once or twice. We did my first ever 616 Spider-Man story in canon, from Venom Supersize #1 and that was with Mark.
It was like an eight or 10-page story. He'd just come back from the Secret Wars, and there was a whole running subplot of sometimes when Peter would go to sleep, the suit would take over his body. He was sleepwalking, having adventures. Mark and I told one of those, like an adventure that Peter would never remember he had because he was asleep the whole time.
And during Original Sin, we did a really quick two or three-page, J. Jonah Jameson story. And that's it. We never really worked together. He's had covers. He's done art that's graced the covers of books I've worked on, but this really is our first time working together on long-form Spider-Man stories. It's crazy.
Stress-Free Spider-Man
Since you mentioned Spider-Man just being monthly, have you noticed a difference as far as stress level, being able to just work on the monthly book compared to back when you were doing the twice-monthly Amazing?
Yes. Oh, my God. Y-E-S, capital exclamation point. It is a different world. We have the first issue at the printer. The second issue is already all drawn. The third issue, Mark is coming around the horn. We jumped ahead and did issue five ahead of time because of scheduling. We were waiting till we saw all the stories and designs that everyone was contributing to Edge of Spider-Verse. We wanted to make sure all that was locked down before we did it, but there was an issue. You'll see why when we get to issue five.
I'm really looking forward to that. Normally, I'd be talking about a book that would be a couple of weeks away, but this is a monthly book. It's like five months away. That blows my mind. And it's already in a drawer.
Edge of Spider-Verse
How involved were you in the creation of the new characters that the readers get to meet in Edge of Spider-Verse?
Obviously, I had a hand in the short stories that I've worked on personally, and so I have one in each issue. I came up with a lot of the concepts behind Spinstress. And there are some where it'd be like, "Oh, it would be fun to have this kind of a spider." And [editor] Nick Lowe would go off and pitch it to people like, "Who wants in on this?" I helped out Phil Lord with the creation of his character who will be in Edge of Spider-Verse #5.
But by me saying help out, that was more like me being a sounding board, like a little bit of a Robin to his Batman on that. It's all his ideas, but I'd be the one going, "Ooh, that's cool." That's the extent of my help. "Yeah, that's awesome. Do that. Do that, Lord."
Morlun And Shathra are obviously back. We saw them in the trailer for Spider-Man #1....
Don't watch the trailer. Go in blind. In fact, stop listening to this interview. Walk away.
So with Morlun, obviously he's fought Spider-Man and the Spider-Verse heroes with his family, and then Shathra's fought Spider-Man also. What's their dynamic working together as a pairing this time as the big threat looming over the Spider-Verse?
Well, this was always planned out as a trilogy. You don't do New Hope and then Empire Strikes Back, and then switch villains. That would be silly. Who are the Rebellion fighting? They're fighting the Klingons. What? No. The Empire. So what we're doing, this isn't the finale of all of this, of Spider-Verse into Spider-Geddon into End of the Spider-Verse. This is how it was always going to be. If I told you about the Morlun-Shathra dynamic now, it would ruin some of the fun.
That is interesting knowing that it was a trilogy. It just goes to show how long some of these plans had been in the making for so long.
That was always the intent because you have something like Spider-Verse and you go, "This is too much fun to have everyone show up all together, all the Spideys that you've ever seen anywhere." The original Spider-Verse was before the movie, before even Ultimate Spider-Man did an adaptation of it. So when you go back to the original Spider-Verse comics, we kind of knew there was something cool there of bringing in everybody, and that people would want to see more of that.
Spider-Man Guest Stars, Amazing Spider-Man Crossover?
Can fans expect many of these guest stars and some of the characters they met in Edge of Spider-Verse to pop up in your opening arc of Spider-Man?
Yes. If you have Spider-Verse favorites, they will show up. New characters we are all meeting in Edge of Spider-Verse will show up. It's all happening.
Is there going to be much crossover with your Spider-Man and the Amazing Spider-Man ongoing?
He's died a few times but never permanently. He's been in all three Spider-Verse events and has made a couple of appearances in between. Slott both established how he keeps coming back to life (clone bodies) and put an end to it, so his next death could be his last one (until they use another excuse to bring him back).
They're set in the same world, in the same continuity, at the same time, with the same character. So my running bit that I tell people is, if Zeb Wells gives Peter Parker a peanut allergy in Amazing, he will have it in Spider-Man.
Like when you first see Spider-Man showing up in our main book, he's got the [Norman] Osborne suit. It's clear the books are going to play off each other. The difference is you'll get Amazing Spider-Man twice a month.
End of Spider-Verse
Is the plan for your Spider-Man series to continue after the End of Spider-Verse?
The End of Spider-Verse does not mean the end of Spider-Man. So there are more that are coming.
Is the End of Spider-Verse planned for 2023 or for the end of this year?
It's the first arc of the book, and it will be a big arc. It's going to run six or seven issues.
Okay. I was thinking it was a separate event, like Edge of Spider-Verse.
No. Nope. No, Edge of Spider-Verse is a five-issue mini, and then it goes into the all-new, ongoing book, Spider-Man #1.
It all counts. So the things you're going to see the most are ... It's really going to lean on the first Spider-Verse, Spider-Geddon. And Jed MacKay did a series called Spider-Verse. There may be even some nods to Web Warriors, which was the team that lived on Loomworld, if you want to go deep diving into your Marvel Unlimited accounts. That said, you can jump into Amazing Spider-Man #1 clean.
You're perfectly fine jumping into Spider-Man #1. If you want to read Edge of Spider-Verse beforehand, and you can't find it because it's been sold out, issues one and two are going back to press, and issue three will be out soon. And you can read all five issues of Edge of Spider-Verse really in wherever you want. It's a big fun anthology. So feel free to jump in with issue three. But if you want issues one and two, they will be back on the stand soon. Thanks to you, everyone, for buying them.
I'm so excited. Coming up in Edge of Spider-Verse, I got to do my first-ever solo story with Spider-Mobile. I got to be re-teamed with my Batman Adventures pal Ty Templeton, who also did Spider-Man/Human Torch with me, and we did a solo story about Spider-Mobile that I love. You'll get to meet other characters from Peter Parkedcar's universe like J. Jonah Jalopy. That pretty much tells you everything you need to know for the tone.
Secret Spider-Verse Character
You're bringing back memories of your promotion for the first Spider-Verse, and I remember how you excited you were about all the different Spider-Man characters that you got to work, and bringing back some of the forgotten characters.
There is a Spider-Verse character that we've never seen before that is going to make me so happy when they show up. And I believe the first time you'll see them is in Spider-Man #4. It's just so wonderfully stupid. That's the fun of it. We also have the first appearance ever of Night-Spider coming up in Edge of Spider-Verse #3. She's the Spider hero from the world where Felicia Hardy got spider powers instead of Black Cat's bad-luck powers.
The artist Sumeyye Kesgin was wonderful. We get to tell Felicia's story, and she's going to do some fun stuff in The End of Spider-Verse. And with Edge of Spider-Verse #5, we're telling the story of the world where Kraven gets spider powers.
This has been one of those dream gigs. We got Bob McLeod who was the anchor on Kraven's Last Hunt and was the artist on New Mutants when I was growing up. Just to get him to draw Kraven was great. And J. M. DeMatteis came out and worked with me on the story and did the script, so it's going to sound right and sound like Kraven. Getting to see J. M. DeMatteis at work was a treat. There's a lot of cool stuff coming up. Oh, it's going to be so good. Everyone should pick up everything.
I feel like I’m the only one in these threads who gets to be happy because instead of dwelling on modern events or almost events, I take them and imagine how to incorporate them into my fanficy hypothetical Spider-Man adaptation cartoon.
Is it insane and include a bunch of extra heroes who might be unnecessary? Yes
Does it still follow the classic feel of Spider-Man, keep the spotlight on Peter as a tragic badass and run on pure fun? Also yes
Nope but you Normangaygs will be broken once Mutants do revive the real Gwen and we all know it's coming soon maybe not in the next issue but sometime soon it will happen, and when that does happen humanity will kneel before Mutants.
There is no point in denying that it will happen Mutants will use their power to bring back the dead and people will be grateful for that there is no stopping it now.
>can you stop shitting every spider-man thread? Go shit up x-men thread if you love muties so much
You shouldn't fight this on the contratary you should want this as much I do this will be super-heroes for all they have lost and suffered, if I had the power to bring back the dead then I would revive them in a heartbeat some people say “Sometimes dead is better" but it's really nothing but bullshit.
Because mutants have the power to do so and they will do it simply because they can do so they will do without it feeling any remorse or gulit, and they will simply do it because they have the power to do so it's that simple.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Do you smoke the marijuana when you prep yourself to get on 4 chan
I wish for Miles Morales and all legacy characters but Peter's biological children to frick off forever and to never receive a single piece of written, spoken or drawn media ever again.
No one but Peter Parker and his children. No clones. No diversity hires. No memes.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Unfortunately for you Teresa is not a meme, not a legacy, nor a diversity hire.
What she is is a mystery… and a possibly good concept handled poorly
2 years ago
Anonymous
Why unfortunately for me? I don't mind Peter having a sister or brother for that reason in another universe since it's actually something that could be interesting if done well.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Oh, I’m just used to most people disliking her. Sorry for assuming
Personally, beyond the obvious interactions, I’m most interested in why the two were separated. Who had so much beef with Richard or Mary that they decided to separate their kids
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not that anon. >What if Teresa was the older half-sister of Peter who was born out of Richard's previous marriage?
Pick your poison, divorce or death.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Divorce would probably explain why they never met before so probably that
Honestly I also wanna see how a mostly ordinary girl handles Parker luck
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah, I like it because it sounds very mundane and plausible.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah, honestly I hope one day we get an adaptation of Teresa Parker without any of the spy identity crisis secret chameleon nonsense
Just a regular girl from a previous marriage or something similar who just happens to be Richard Parker’s daughter called to discuss a matter with Peter and a lawyer after some new information comes to light.
Not even bad information, just new
2 years ago
Anonymous
You're not supposed to like the fanfic sibling.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Fanfic Mary Sue sister is a failed meme that Waid and Zdarski tried to force.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Shed be good if she wasn’t a Mary Sue, just a regular girl who happens to be his sister
2 years ago
Anonymous
She’d be annoying forced meme with no purpose but for the writer to leave a mark on the mythos. Drop sicrit sibling bullshit and just use Mary Jane’s family as supporting cast.
I think the damage has been done already and there is no redeeming to be made anymore ever since OMD at the latest. Spider-Man really needs a full on reboot but with writers who actually get the character and perhaps know a thing about the original Ditko/Romita/Lee run. That or just put the comics to rest.
>These two options are better than puppetting the corpse of a character who has been ruined time and time again
only for the fans the soulless corporation makes more money this way
I know Peter doesn't remember the Mephisto deal. but I still don't know why there hasn't been a storyline of him and the other spiders going to hell and kicking the shit out of him, hell other characters like Gwenpool have done it so why not?
>other spiders
Man frick the other spiders or ship them off to their own universes. They add nothing except coomer material when it comes to gwen and silk
>but I still don't know why there hasn't been a storyline of him and the other spiders going to hell and kicking the shit out of him
Not only that would cheapen a very personal journey, the "spiders", as in the cosplaying clowns shoved in our faces, have absolutely nothing to do with Peter. The ones that do, his brothers, are memory holed and ruined respectively.
Who has it worse, Peter or Morlun?
Morlun is permanently Slott's b***h, BUT he gets less misery screen time.
There's a trained stock of comic buyers who make their purchases entirely on reaction to familiar stimuli. Superman turns evil, Spider-man is shit on, Mutants and Avengers fight, Batman teeters on the edge of going too far, etc. etc.
Sales barely matter anymore. Why fight it? Stop expecting good stories from people who dont bother to try for them.
Stories need conflict. In his original.series he gets buried under a pile of rubble, how.is that any different?
I remember him being beaten by black tarantula in the 90s.
It's ironic that Marvel is trying to make Peter relatable to lower class Americans. It has been shown they're less likely to get married and Americans have been less likely to marry in general. The fans buying these comics are rich collectors so they won't find it relatable. Marvel elites it's buyers.
>marvel collectors are not reading comics anymore. They gonna die soon though and marvel and dc will crash hard
Yes I think you are right I think they wil both die soon, seriously it does seem rather silly that Mutans now have the power to revive the dead such a concept wil surely doom Marvel. Still there is nothing to be done about but simply accept it the bright side is that OG Captain Marvel will be brought back along with many others, cheer up mate they are worse ideas for comics you know.
I don't really care about Spider-Man nowadays but I remember seeing an Evil Gwen Stacy with purple clothing and some weird scorpion tentacles a while ago. She looked pretty hot.
It's so weird how Marvel makes a big deal about Gwen Stacy but she's never anything more than Peter's dead girlfriend that gives him guilt. So that explains her being brought up to make Peter feel bad but what about the mass of covers and stories about her while she was alive? Do they sell? I guess they do.
Why the frick would they hold back not bring her back? the line between life and death has been crossed over by mutans they are no more rules left anymore and morals do not exist for mutants after all. In the past certain they were certain rules and some lines never should have been crossed by all rights, but that time is over at least for DC and Marvel it is go blame the Marvel editoral and capeshit writers for this shit it's over mutants will rule over humanity eventually and there is nothing to be done about it they will be are gods.
>There's no reason to your racist butthole. Why you have to be a sexist about this too, You are the worst person imaginable infringing on womans rights
Calm down the people who will brought back by mutants will remain human after all but there is no escaping it now, besides DC showed that they don't give a shit about death that's why all those reboots happened and now Marvel is going in the same direction, it was bound to happen sooner or later you know. Did you really think Marvel would never cross the line sooner or late? if so then you are truly are a fool for thinking thay way anon.
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Why is Wells writtingf Peter as a weak rookie and has to be saved women against Morlun it's like tjey want him to be replaced
we've been over this before >Gwen comes back >Norman fricks her for real this time, gets her pregnant and makes an honest woman out of her >throws her off a bridge after he has his kids back
it's all there, stop denying the truth
Too late that since we all know Norman fricked MJ in reality I suspect those kids we saw in the current ASM belong to him, Paul is nothing but a smoke screen character hired by him.
I am Sure Paul And Norman will have a real good time with MJ body, she has always dreamed about experiencing the DP and thanks to them that dream will come soon true.
His shitty Spiderverse "fans"
What's with the Spiderverse fandom aside from all the Spider OCs on Pinterest?
Mostly pretending they get the character of Peter Parker because they've been told by youtubers that in the comics he's a 24/7 loser which didn't become a real thing until the story got hacky and very bad. Like. One More Day bad.
Do the writers have a reverse ryona fetish?
Editors for sure.
Tpbp
I too hate it when hack writers have spiderman trapped, beaten, and about to die.
Do not compare "If this be my destiny" to the schlock in Wells' book.
>Comparing kino with a humiliation fetish comic
If this be my Destiny
>Peter is trapped under some large debris
>Needs to get out not only to save himself, but Aunt May too
>Gets out through inner strength
>Peter is triumphant
The tunnel
>Peter is beaten up by Tombstone and tied up in some chains he should be able to break
>Gets beaten up some more and begs Tombstone not to kill a neighborhood
>Has to be let out of the chains by some recurring mook character
>Still ends up being a ploy by Tombstone and Peter is tricked into helping him take over the Rose's turf
>Peter is a fool
Man they're really doing Spidey dirty as of this past decade. Why does Marvel keep hiring shitheads to make slop?
>Why does Marvel keep hiring shitheads to make slop?
They want Peter gone and Miles in.
But they totally pussy to do it
>Miles
Spider-Man Black Teenager is a long, long way away from replacing Peter. Miles may have a better reception now than when he was first introduced, but Marvel is nowhere near ready for that. They should just rip the bandaid off and stop making Peter Spidey altogether if they're really planning it.
I don't get why it's so fricking difficult.
Keep Pete-Spidey around for Avengers-level threats, and let him be happy with MJ.
Let Miles pick up the street level Spidey torch and run with it.
Keep Ben around for a Parker-luck punching bag.
Proof.
Does a Miles comic sell as much as a Peter comic? Because if it doesn't sell at least as much, then it doesn't make sense to stop selling Peter comics any time soon.
Nowhere near close
Zoomer characters never sell comics in the direct market because zoomers don't use the direct market
>Does a Miles comic sell as much as a Peter comic?
No and he never will. That's why legacy characters have never made sense outside of the Barbie toy argument. Peter as the primary Spider-Man will ALWAYS exist. I know Sony is trying to kill him off and make him an irresponsible manchild who can't move on as the status quo and stuff but the collective conciousness will always be drawn more to the original. We ain't dealing with shitters like Flash here.
we don't get real comic numbers since covid anymore
personally i doubt any comic is read by more then 50k people every week
Covid is a weak excuse used by everyone.
They should do a cobra kai style comic series with Peter being the Johnny Lawrence to Miles being Miguel. Peter has to balance his retirement with MJ and passing thr torch to miles and the other spider kid variants like Silk.
Frick no.
Never compared again Miguel with that abortion of spiderman.
And if it were like Cobra Kai, Kaine should be Miles trainer
If it were like Cobra Kai, Peter would train his daughter likely Mayday and Eddie's son if Venom was his rival. The premise of Cobra Kai is that the iconic rival antagonist of the first movie becomes the main character, has a surrogate son while the hero takes care of his own and his rival's kid. Having Miles there would make no fricking sense unless he is supposed to become Venom.
How about you die.
>Let Miles-
>Let Miles pick up the street level Spidey torch and run with it
Frick off, Milestard. The only thing he deserves is some Gobby dick in his mouth
Cinemaphile is consumed by gobbo tadger nuts.
no one wants to read Miles anything
Please read the thread
before posting.
So stop doing this hack shit, have Peter retire and make Miles the main Spider-Man. I'd honestly prefer it to this shit.
The chains were literally compacting him if he tried to move, plus he was heavily beaten down by tombstone with a busted face and broken bones. Doomergays strike once again.
is a fool
Well, he is a straight white male, so it's to be expected.
>Lets repeat 200 more times only now there is nothing to be learned from
Modern writers forget that Spider-Man is supposed to stand up again after having been beaten no matter how difficult the challenge is.
He literally died.
Yeah. He's a loser.
He did, and beat the shit out of everyone in sight.
He jobbed to everyone on sight lmao
No he didn't.
He did. That's why he's dead and not breathing like the other Spider-Men.
Oh yeah, I forgot that Miles is the only Spiderman now that Peter is dead.
Because it's a story that has been overdone since the 60's
Man, I remember reading that as a kid. It feels so long ago…
Spider-Man series vary wildly in quality, it's an actual coinflip on whether he'll be handled well when handed to another team.
You still reading Spider-man's solos? Gave up on them after OMD/BND and never looked back.
Oh hey Lewis, so when's Power Rangers Ninja Storm getting reuploaded?
>It'll be out when it's out
And we like that, it'll be out when it's out. Great work ethic.
Don't you talk about me, you son of a b***h!
Was on the fence after the unmasking, omd ended any care I have about Spiderman.
Slott playing the make em angry game with his moronic morlun multiverse shit made me liking but disappointed to just
Hating Spiderman. I don't want to know this character anymore. It spit on a character Iiked and how it helped me through bad times as a kid.
I can't pick up or watch Spiderman anything anymore now.
And these people are so hard up for any ki d if clout with objectively just evil people in social media and want any kind of recognition that I honestly do t trust them with this character.
I quit.
Now I'm going go back to hiding any Spiderman anything thread.
>Now I'm going go back to hiding any Spiderman anything thread.
You're literally in one right now
>spider-man in any other book
you mean in chip zdarsky otherwise every other example have him as usual slott-bendis manchild
I get that Peter actually wouldn't be a very good pilot but why did they have to write it like this?
>I get that Peter actually wouldn't be a very good pilot
He has spider-sense, which is essentially being force sensitive, he'd be a great pilot.
Spider-sense doesn't automatically grant you the ability to operate complex machinery. Spider-sense is literally just a danger sense that senses danger and nothing more.
It's still stupid. He has amazing reflexes, insane dexterity, amazing mental reflexes and a high intellect, and is GREAT with mechanical machinery, and most importantly, is AMAZING with 3D maneuvering innately.
He should be an AMAZING pilot, and absoluitely incredible due to the Spider-sense. Writers just love shitting on Spiderman to raise their other characters up.
Spider sense is conditional prescience - basically one of the greatest possible powers to have and universal in its utility. Operating a plane is unlikely to be an issue for Peter given how intelligent he is. Would be be an ace? Perhaps not but he could at least brute force the basics. Saying he'd be a bad pilot is stupid. He could be but the base IQ give him a good chance of being otherwise.
That's fine, but advanced piloting is a combination of about 3 things in order of importance:
Ability to withstand multiple G's of force without passing out
Innate understanding of maneuvering and keeping track of target in a 3d environment
Reflexes
Spiderman has all 3 in spades. Not only that, he would have by far the strongest understanding of what movements impart what kind of forces on a planes wings, since his webslinging works entirely off of motion force he would easily intuit how much stress a turn would impart on a planes wings. NOT ONLY that, if he ever did try to turn too harshly, his precognition danger sense would fire and he could back off. Spidermans powerset is almost perfectly suited to being a fighter pilot, not to mention his intelligence, experience with machinery, and that he fricking has the web jet.
name me the last time a white man wasn't written as a idiot man child or weakling to make woman or blacks look good.
just show me one example of a page like this but with a white guy saying something like that to a woman/black guy.
Argh...
Granted that Spider-man of the 90s was still more mauture. JMS in 2005, wrote a pretty decent Peter Parker. His story arc has up and down, but Spider-man wasn't an idiot, he was very consistent andrespected.
This is a ,more acceptable exchange. Peter tries a few jokes, but immediately understands the situation.
>But you're in Africa. Maybe you'd like to do something unique to the region?
>Not really feeling up to a scrap with the Man-Ape.
Jesus Christ, Raimi.
What’s this from? Is this from the JMS run because I don’t remember it?
It's from the Other if I'm remembering correctly. I wanna say this is the part where the Avengers realize Peter is "dying" so he goes around and asks for help from a bunch of other heroes.
Am I the only one who liked the other? The prospect of peter having new powers seemed cool
That was vaguely 30 years old Peter. Current Peter is vaguely 20.
Don't say that to loud because the Spencer manchilds will seethe at you
>Peter confidently driving what is essentially a Fisher Price's toy carwheel
This is funny, though.
>You don't strike me as a very good pilot. He may not be a "good" pilot, but that spider sense will get you guys out of there alive.
Didn't he learn to fly during Paker Industries?
Out of every cape character, what makes Parker get the special focus concerning his rocky writing history and editorial meddling?
Name one cape that doesn't have Bat in his name, that's more popular that Spider-Man.
If Spider-Man doesn't deserve special focus concerning everything, then are you suggesting that only Batman does? Or literally no one does ever?
Because analysing Spider-Man and Batman could probably teach a lot.
Superman before 2011
Too big
The company in general for still letting this shit happen.
So do people want Spiderwank? Peter just jumps in and beats everyone with ease, acts like a badass, gets a girl, and then inspires everyone to be better?
Yes. Self-inserters want spider-god.
>i want my superhero comic to feature an actual superhero who is cool and competent. and not a manchild idiot who get emasculated and belittled every storyline to push some far leftwing, white men bashing agenda
eh, yes. is that a controversial opinion? what do you think the "super" in superhero stands for?
No we want him to settle down and have his stories go from eternally down on his luck peter to stable trying to raise a family while being spider-man Peter and eventually Spider-Dad Peter
Suffering is part of being the Spider-Man anon is just way its
Current editorial guarantees that not even a good writer will be allowed to really work their magic on Spider-Man.
The fanboys brand loyalist who unironically keep buying and defending all this shit the writers pull with the character because of the mass popularity of the character.
This is why is better to just stop caring about spiderman at all, unless some extreme downfall hits the brand nothing will ever change for the character.
His fans
I honestly dont care about MJ. I just prefer it when Peter never made a deal with the literal devil.
Lowe and Wells both.
I honestly cant read long term American Superhero comics anymore. I just notice way too often discontinuity, abandoned storylines, recycled storylines, abandoned lore, constant story reframing, storylines cut-mid content during writer transitions... and worst of all, endless repetition. I can only take Spiderman suffering again, being reset to a shitty life, again, and having to rebuild a semblance of a decent life only to have the next writer do destroy everything and start again. Same thing with Iron Man, and so.
I just cant do it anymore. I dont know how you guys handle it. You read comics for 20 years and all you're left with is loathing for modern comics, but an inability to let go of something you loved.
It helps to let go of the ones that piss you off and try newer ones during that period, and repeat. Or just taking a long break from the genre completely and return when those writers are gone.
I like this Peter the best. This specific ride version of him. Exclusively this one.
>you shouldn’t be out here
>with Doc Ock on the loose this could be the most dangerous night of my life…AND YOURS
Kino
>first thing he does is make sure you get warned so you can get to safety or the villain's attack missed you
>makes a joke AFTER
How did a fricking theme park ride of all things get it so right.
*or makes the villain's
Marvel Super Hero Island is such a cool time capsule. I hope they never take it down.
This suit looks like a combo of the WOS suit and Ultimate.
frick off gwendybawdcuck this isn't about corpse rape
tracy scoops chads is our turn take over spider-man scripts
Since this thread is going turn to shit soon, does any have pages of that guy's kids calling MJ mommy?
gwenbawdcuck so pa pathetic he can't use google
1: I'm not that loser.
2: Fair enough.
His fans.
Issue 10 spoilers Gwen doesn't judge Peter on her death but to what he did 6 months ago and he fails judgment and she leaves
It's another shill on Peter issue
Fans are gonna flip out if true.
why would they flip out?
L:owe said this issue made him cry
Miles passes and Peter fails.
Lowe cried after Superior too.
It sounds more like he wanted to hype the issue issue but sounds like a false advertisement asa he knows this run is failing
Lowe is a crier. That's his signature move.
Ah yes, the mistery box plotline.
Goddamn, what a bunch of hacks.
I LVOE MISERY PORN! SPIDER-MAN SHOULD BE MISERY PORN MY FAVOURITE E-CELEB TOLD ME THAT'S THE CORE OF HIS CHARACTER! CONSTANT MISERY BECAUSE HE'S A LOSER JUST LIKE MEEEEEEE
I mean the entire thing is that you pass if you believe that you are meeting the standards you hold yourself to.
So peter failing feels pretty inline with how he treats himself.
The over-exaggerated polar opposites of this image has meme potential.
spider-man is treated with zero respect in other books as well, he literally always loses every fight/argument against any woman
sorry no one wants to touch your pee pee, sad little incel
I hate this current run, why is he so weak? Was he de powered in an issue I missed?
His "fans"
Not the real ones (who stopped buying D*sney product long ago) but the Mousecuck npcs who continue to purchase product to consoom, directly rewarding and legitimizing the ongoing rape of the character, the setting and entertainment media as a whole.
Basically, have a nice day.
After like 3 straight mediocre runs of stagnation it's clear that Lowe is the common problem. Get rid of him. Then Peter might prosper in a similar way to Wally and Dick when Didio was kicked out.
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST HAVE A SUPERHERO BE PUT IN PERIL BY SUPERVILLAINS THEY MUST ALWAYS BE AN INVINCIBLE GARY STU!!
if they are woman you literally can't apparently
only white man for you know why.
Peter's life will get better once Gwen get revived the Mutants will see to that this will be his reward for all he has lost the Mutants owe him that much
i want to put that shitzo who says "are you the guy who does ..." in every thread in a straight jacket.
You've been "are you the guy who does"ed haven't you Squidward?
MJ is still a cheating prostitute.
How did she get kids in 6 months without some retconny magic bullshit
Becaue they not her kids
Why the hell does the girl have the same hair and eyes as her then. Does the dude just have a fetish for red heads with green eyes. What fricking kid calls a random woman their mommy in six months
Clones, Demons or they are differnent colors/race and it's acutually mind f ery going on
Because they wan't to frick with us as much as they can, before revealing that "haha, it's not her kids after all!".
I mean, remember Jackpot? Remember how many clues there were, that she's actually Mary Jane? And then came the revelation, that she's actually... A complet nobody! And now she's dead! Hope you liked it!
>Becaue they not her kids
Oh really then how come those kids look similar to her in that case? shit like that can't be faked you know.
>Update
100% yes it can. Look at Mysterio
Mysterio is so good memories of impregnating blonde prostitutes feel real.
Mysterio really has become a free get-out-of-jail card for this kind of shit.
Ahh so I guess that means Norman banged MJ and not Gwen in reality he most likely made a illusion of him bangin Gwen With Mysterio's help since he probably though it wold be fun to mess with Peter's help, the real prostitute is MJ after all.
No Gwen still fricked Norrman and is judging Peter that he let it happen
>No Gwen still fricked Norrman and is judging Peter that he let it happen
Tsk tsk the Gwen which we will see in the ASM #10 is nothing but a celestial in order to throw fans off track, but I know better now the real Gwen will be revived by Mutans she will be back that's for certain but not as mutant but as a human.
No she wont
Yes she will Mutans are now gods with the power to revive humans and their is no stopping that now besides this is something they owe Peter, And when it all over humanity will bow down before mutants.
Nope that's just what Marvel wanted to you think it was MJ who banged Norman in reality and Peter is getting judged by a a celestial not the real Gwen it's just more smoke and mirrors from Marvel's half nothing more.
Sure budy lmao
Soon Norman bangin Aunt May in the Marvel 616 universe will become a reality anon May knows she can't resist Norman.
Norman and Otto fight fiht for May;s love
How about Norman and Otto both bang May together I want to see her experince the DP anon.
>3
That
s the mostt use she's had in 8 years
You still haven't found the Norman/MJ couple art to prop up your ship? Sad.
In all honesty I checked the internet but oddly enough I just can't seem to find that shit oh well you know what they say you win some you lose some.
good
>MJ is the only redhead in Marvel
Deepest lore
The kid has her hair, her eyes and even her iconic smile dimples, you're being very dishonest if you continue to pretend this wasn't done on purpose.
That's the point to make the reader believe one thing that explain it out to be something completely out of the left field. It's been done hundreds of times before
They played you homosexuals like a fiddle for 5+ years and you still haven't learnt anything
Comics are truly for morons
What is the name of that villain?
Kindred aka Harry but actually Gabriel AND Sarah Stacy but also clones but also demon spawn
Yeah that was the character I was talking about. I will just ignore the clones and demon spawn thing and just think Kindred is an evil Gwen Stacy.
>How did she get kids in 6 months without some retconny magic bullshit
You forget that we don't how time much has passed since the end of the ASM Vol. 5 and the start of this vol for all we know more time had gone by then six months in reality.
Anon those kids aren’t newborns.
gwenbawdcuck says he's not the grave diddler and he posts shit later. lying c**t isn't slick.
Six months. They even said so repeatedly
>Six months. They even said so repeatedly
No we don't know how much time went by since the end of ASM Vol. 5 it ended with a cliffhanger remember I really don't why they bothered with that shit at all since it was obviously immediately forgotten.
It will be resolved soon. Wells seems to be leaving a couple of months after Dark Web
I'm not convinced that he is, and even if he is, I don't see things getting better after that.
>Spider-Man getting jobbed within an inch of his life
you act like this isn't normal
The editors.
They seem to have far more control over the title than any writer, also Nick Lowe somehow hasn't been fired after all this time
stop replying to shizo
He's just Mexican
Nope I am a Europe guy.
why did Peter do it?
Gwen was never really yours Norman.
so Peter did it out of jealousy? Sad!
>Peter barely gives a shit
even he's tired of Gwen
>It's been almost a year
>Still no Gwen Mysterio cosplay
All these spider-man threads are pointless and fricking stupid I should done this from the start still better later then never I suppose bye-bye thread.
Norman fricking Gwen is so funny I hate that they retconned it. Also hate that we didn't even get 1992 Harry back or whatever year he initially died.
See it like this. It's fanfiction of fanfiction. Spider-Man stopped being canon technically after Lee stopped being a writer.
the celestial judge's peter preview is up by the way
>https://www.cbr.com/spider-man-learns-gwen-stacy-resurrection-marvel/
So Peter is not on the outs with the avengers
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COVER BY JOHN ROMITA JR. (A/C)
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peter doesn't even care if it's gwen or not anymore kek
it should've been Harry
We just got Harry. It should have been Uncle Ben.
Killing off Gwen Stacy was the beginning of the end for good Spider-Man writing, wasn't it
>Killing off Gwen Stacy was the beginning of the end for good Spider-Man writing, wasn't it
Which is is why she should never should died at all now look at the mess we are in today.
Nah. She should have never existed in the first place.
Yon still don't get do you Gwen has and always will be Peter's true love no matter what MJ never really mattered heck eveyone know that Peter And MJ only got serious after Gwen died Marvel knows that Gwen is Peter's true love in the end otherwise they never would botherd to undo Sins Past at all.
>Yon still don't get do you Gwen has and always will be Peter's true love
No it's Felicia but writers are too cowardly to accept the ideal cape pairing. A close second would be a threesome of Peter/MJ/Felicia. Gwen is just shit.
They only undid sins past because Spencer wanted Kindred to undo something when editorial said no marriage.
>Norman's return was the beginning of the end for good Spider-Man writing, wasn't it
Fixed that for you.
No one cares about your wife, Stan. MJ is Peter's true love and Gwen was never going to last. They made lemonade with her story though. Until clones at least.
Oh boy we find out what Peter did all those months ago in an x-men tie in no less
I am 100% sure they're going to keep it vague even though Peter will be judged on what he did 6 months ago
Dan Slott Celebrates His Spider-Man Return and Ending the Spider-Verse
The Spider-Verse is coming to an end, and it's all Dan Slott's fault. The prolific writer is teaming up with artist Mark Bagley for a return to the Spider-Man franchise, after having penned a decade worth of stories for the web-slinger. Slott is kicking things off with a bang with Spider-Man #1, which kicks off "The End of the Spider-Verse." All of your favorite Spider heroes like Miles Morales and Ghost-Spider will take part in the story arc, along with new characters introduced in the Edge of Spider-Verse miniseries.
ComicBook.com spoke to Dan Slott about Spider-Man #1, collaborating with iconic Spidey artist Mark Bagley, the threat posed by villains Morlun and Shathra, creating new characters in Edge of Spider-Verse, and much more. We also have an exclusive look at Spider-Man #1, which goes on sale October 5th.
Returning to Spider-Man and Collaborating With Mark Bagley
ComicBook.com: What led you to come back to Spider-Man after you spent the last couple of years on Fantastic Four?
Dan Slott: I cannot quit this character. He is my favorite character in all of fiction. Suck it, Hamlet. What it really was like, people would ask me when I was leaving Amazing Spider-Man, "Will you ever come back to Amazing Spider-Man?" And my answer was always, "Never. I never want to do that again. I never want to do it twice a month." It was very much like if you've seen that clip or that GIF of Lucy from I Love Lucy at the chocolate factory.
The second you finish one issue, you're getting another one out. To do it that quickly, you always have to write stories out of sequence so the next artist can start their story. So you're always writing chapter one of this story, chapter four of that story, chapter two of that story. And I was like, "Gah!" I always said getting the gig was a monkey's paw.
>Dan Slott Celebrates His Spider-Man Return and Ending the Spider-Verse
>All of your favorite Spider heroes like Miles Morales and Ghost-Spider will take part in the story arc
Burn all of capeshit down
You got your greatest wish, but not the way you want it. Being able to write adjectiveless Spider-Man, being able to write just Spider-Man and do it once a month, everything I've always wanted. This is kind of like coming back to Spidey on my own terms and going, "Oh, yeah. I could write one issue of Spidey for the rest of my life." Never want to do anything else. It's great. And I get to do it with Mark Bagley! That's insane.
Most people remember him for Carnage. For some generations, he's the guy who was there from Amazing, from Ultimate Spider-Man #1. And Ultimate Spider-Man, that came out like 18 issues a year for the longest time. And when you add that to his run on Amazing and all the other projects he's done, like the Chip Zdarsky book Life Story, you're just like, "Oh, my God." He is synonymous with Spider-Man. We've only worked together on a Spidey thing once or twice. We did my first ever 616 Spider-Man story in canon, from Venom Supersize #1 and that was with Mark.
It was like an eight or 10-page story. He'd just come back from the Secret Wars, and there was a whole running subplot of sometimes when Peter would go to sleep, the suit would take over his body. He was sleepwalking, having adventures. Mark and I told one of those, like an adventure that Peter would never remember he had because he was asleep the whole time.
And during Original Sin, we did a really quick two or three-page, J. Jonah Jameson story. And that's it. We never really worked together. He's had covers. He's done art that's graced the covers of books I've worked on, but this really is our first time working together on long-form Spider-Man stories. It's crazy.
Stress-Free Spider-Man
Since you mentioned Spider-Man just being monthly, have you noticed a difference as far as stress level, being able to just work on the monthly book compared to back when you were doing the twice-monthly Amazing?
I hate the Spider-verse so much, it's insane
Name ONE editor and ONE writer and ONE artist who would fulfill your dream Spider-Man run
Yes. Oh, my God. Y-E-S, capital exclamation point. It is a different world. We have the first issue at the printer. The second issue is already all drawn. The third issue, Mark is coming around the horn. We jumped ahead and did issue five ahead of time because of scheduling. We were waiting till we saw all the stories and designs that everyone was contributing to Edge of Spider-Verse. We wanted to make sure all that was locked down before we did it, but there was an issue. You'll see why when we get to issue five.
I'm really looking forward to that. Normally, I'd be talking about a book that would be a couple of weeks away, but this is a monthly book. It's like five months away. That blows my mind. And it's already in a drawer.
Edge of Spider-Verse
How involved were you in the creation of the new characters that the readers get to meet in Edge of Spider-Verse?
Obviously, I had a hand in the short stories that I've worked on personally, and so I have one in each issue. I came up with a lot of the concepts behind Spinstress. And there are some where it'd be like, "Oh, it would be fun to have this kind of a spider." And [editor] Nick Lowe would go off and pitch it to people like, "Who wants in on this?" I helped out Phil Lord with the creation of his character who will be in Edge of Spider-Verse #5.
But by me saying help out, that was more like me being a sounding board, like a little bit of a Robin to his Batman on that. It's all his ideas, but I'd be the one going, "Ooh, that's cool." That's the extent of my help. "Yeah, that's awesome. Do that. Do that, Lord."
Morlun And Shathra are obviously back. We saw them in the trailer for Spider-Man #1....
Don't watch the trailer. Go in blind. In fact, stop listening to this interview. Walk away.
So with Morlun, obviously he's fought Spider-Man and the Spider-Verse heroes with his family, and then Shathra's fought Spider-Man also. What's their dynamic working together as a pairing this time as the big threat looming over the Spider-Verse?
Well, this was always planned out as a trilogy. You don't do New Hope and then Empire Strikes Back, and then switch villains. That would be silly. Who are the Rebellion fighting? They're fighting the Klingons. What? No. The Empire. So what we're doing, this isn't the finale of all of this, of Spider-Verse into Spider-Geddon into End of the Spider-Verse. This is how it was always going to be. If I told you about the Morlun-Shathra dynamic now, it would ruin some of the fun.
That is interesting knowing that it was a trilogy. It just goes to show how long some of these plans had been in the making for so long.
That was always the intent because you have something like Spider-Verse and you go, "This is too much fun to have everyone show up all together, all the Spideys that you've ever seen anywhere." The original Spider-Verse was before the movie, before even Ultimate Spider-Man did an adaptation of it. So when you go back to the original Spider-Verse comics, we kind of knew there was something cool there of bringing in everybody, and that people would want to see more of that.
Spider-Man Guest Stars, Amazing Spider-Man Crossover?
Can fans expect many of these guest stars and some of the characters they met in Edge of Spider-Verse to pop up in your opening arc of Spider-Man?
Yes. If you have Spider-Verse favorites, they will show up. New characters we are all meeting in Edge of Spider-Verse will show up. It's all happening.
Is there going to be much crossover with your Spider-Man and the Amazing Spider-Man ongoing?
fricking lowe
What's that from?
use your fricking eyes
>616 Peter
>The chosen one
FUUUUUUCK I HATE MARVEL
Soon.
Looks like cancer made only to have a costume for the next Spider-Man game.
Wait, Spider-man resurrects as a mutant?
No cap was first non mutant brought back so expect same for heroes only. One time only
>the chosen one
Morlun. That’s a name I haven’t read in years. Didn’t he die?
He's died a few times but never permanently. He's been in all three Spider-Verse events and has made a couple of appearances in between. Slott both established how he keeps coming back to life (clone bodies) and put an end to it, so his next death could be his last one (until they use another excuse to bring him back).
They're set in the same world, in the same continuity, at the same time, with the same character. So my running bit that I tell people is, if Zeb Wells gives Peter Parker a peanut allergy in Amazing, he will have it in Spider-Man.
Like when you first see Spider-Man showing up in our main book, he's got the [Norman] Osborne suit. It's clear the books are going to play off each other. The difference is you'll get Amazing Spider-Man twice a month.
End of Spider-Verse
Is the plan for your Spider-Man series to continue after the End of Spider-Verse?
The End of Spider-Verse does not mean the end of Spider-Man. So there are more that are coming.
Is the End of Spider-Verse planned for 2023 or for the end of this year?
It's the first arc of the book, and it will be a big arc. It's going to run six or seven issues.
Okay. I was thinking it was a separate event, like Edge of Spider-Verse.
No. Nope. No, Edge of Spider-Verse is a five-issue mini, and then it goes into the all-new, ongoing book, Spider-Man #1.
It all counts. So the things you're going to see the most are ... It's really going to lean on the first Spider-Verse, Spider-Geddon. And Jed MacKay did a series called Spider-Verse. There may be even some nods to Web Warriors, which was the team that lived on Loomworld, if you want to go deep diving into your Marvel Unlimited accounts. That said, you can jump into Amazing Spider-Man #1 clean.
You're perfectly fine jumping into Spider-Man #1. If you want to read Edge of Spider-Verse beforehand, and you can't find it because it's been sold out, issues one and two are going back to press, and issue three will be out soon. And you can read all five issues of Edge of Spider-Verse really in wherever you want. It's a big fun anthology. So feel free to jump in with issue three. But if you want issues one and two, they will be back on the stand soon. Thanks to you, everyone, for buying them.
I'm so excited. Coming up in Edge of Spider-Verse, I got to do my first-ever solo story with Spider-Mobile. I got to be re-teamed with my Batman Adventures pal Ty Templeton, who also did Spider-Man/Human Torch with me, and we did a solo story about Spider-Mobile that I love. You'll get to meet other characters from Peter Parkedcar's universe like J. Jonah Jalopy. That pretty much tells you everything you need to know for the tone.
Secret Spider-Verse Character
You're bringing back memories of your promotion for the first Spider-Verse, and I remember how you excited you were about all the different Spider-Man characters that you got to work, and bringing back some of the forgotten characters.
There is a Spider-Verse character that we've never seen before that is going to make me so happy when they show up. And I believe the first time you'll see them is in Spider-Man #4. It's just so wonderfully stupid. That's the fun of it. We also have the first appearance ever of Night-Spider coming up in Edge of Spider-Verse #3. She's the Spider hero from the world where Felicia Hardy got spider powers instead of Black Cat's bad-luck powers.
The artist Sumeyye Kesgin was wonderful. We get to tell Felicia's story, and she's going to do some fun stuff in The End of Spider-Verse. And with Edge of Spider-Verse #5, we're telling the story of the world where Kraven gets spider powers.
This has been one of those dream gigs. We got Bob McLeod who was the anchor on Kraven's Last Hunt and was the artist on New Mutants when I was growing up. Just to get him to draw Kraven was great. And J. M. DeMatteis came out and worked with me on the story and did the script, so it's going to sound right and sound like Kraven. Getting to see J. M. DeMatteis at work was a treat. There's a lot of cool stuff coming up. Oh, it's going to be so good. Everyone should pick up everything.
I feel like I’m the only one in these threads who gets to be happy because instead of dwelling on modern events or almost events, I take them and imagine how to incorporate them into my fanficy hypothetical Spider-Man adaptation cartoon.
Is it insane and include a bunch of extra heroes who might be unnecessary? Yes
Does it still follow the classic feel of Spider-Man, keep the spotlight on Peter as a tragic badass and run on pure fun? Also yes
gwenshizo is breaking
Nope but you Normangaygs will be broken once Mutants do revive the real Gwen and we all know it's coming soon maybe not in the next issue but sometime soon it will happen, and when that does happen humanity will kneel before Mutants.
I think you're having a mental breakdown lmao
There is no point in denying that it will happen Mutants will use their power to bring back the dead and people will be grateful for that there is no stopping it now.
can you stop shitting every spider-man thread? Go shit up x-men thread if you love muties so much
>can you stop shitting every spider-man thread? Go shit up x-men thread if you love muties so much
You shouldn't fight this on the contratary you should want this as much I do this will be super-heroes for all they have lost and suffered, if I had the power to bring back the dead then I would revive them in a heartbeat some people say “Sometimes dead is better" but it's really nothing but bullshit.
Why bring back a random dead teenager that makes no sense
Because mutants have the power to do so and they will do it simply because they can do so they will do without it feeling any remorse or gulit, and they will simply do it because they have the power to do so it's that simple.
Do you smoke the marijuana when you prep yourself to get on 4 chan
here's pity (you). Move on
BBC. Yum. Yum. Yum. .
They kissed there no evidence to support that they had sex all.
Is he the same guy who's been making mutant supremacy threads recently?
Wow what a let down of a preview for Miles last issue of hr current run
The hand on the Monkey's Paw will curl again and Miles will frick Mayday in a few years down the line.
>Normie will never curbstomp Miles and make Mayday his waifu
Normie is married and Mayday has a boyfriend.
>Mayday's bf
yawn
Normie has enough dick for two women
Mayday's Krakoa phase.
STAAAHP
I wish for Miles Morales and all legacy characters but Peter's biological children to frick off forever and to never receive a single piece of written, spoken or drawn media ever again.
You want to just discard Miguel like that?
Yes. A small price to pay for salvation
What about Ben and Kaine
No one but Peter Parker and his children. No clones. No diversity hires. No memes.
Unfortunately for you Teresa is not a meme, not a legacy, nor a diversity hire.
What she is is a mystery… and a possibly good concept handled poorly
Why unfortunately for me? I don't mind Peter having a sister or brother for that reason in another universe since it's actually something that could be interesting if done well.
Oh, I’m just used to most people disliking her. Sorry for assuming
Personally, beyond the obvious interactions, I’m most interested in why the two were separated. Who had so much beef with Richard or Mary that they decided to separate their kids
Not that anon.
>What if Teresa was the older half-sister of Peter who was born out of Richard's previous marriage?
Pick your poison, divorce or death.
Divorce would probably explain why they never met before so probably that
Honestly I also wanna see how a mostly ordinary girl handles Parker luck
Yeah, I like it because it sounds very mundane and plausible.
Yeah, honestly I hope one day we get an adaptation of Teresa Parker without any of the spy identity crisis secret chameleon nonsense
Just a regular girl from a previous marriage or something similar who just happens to be Richard Parker’s daughter called to discuss a matter with Peter and a lawyer after some new information comes to light.
Not even bad information, just new
You're not supposed to like the fanfic sibling.
Fanfic Mary Sue sister is a failed meme that Waid and Zdarski tried to force.
Shed be good if she wasn’t a Mary Sue, just a regular girl who happens to be his sister
She’d be annoying forced meme with no purpose but for the writer to leave a mark on the mythos. Drop sicrit sibling bullshit and just use Mary Jane’s family as supporting cast.
Eh, regardless I think she’s interesting
So when's new scan bro gonna leak the issue
No MJ. No scans.
Wow so Gwen it literally trash
But why not just say what happens in the issue
How old is Miles in this picture?
"All characters are depicted 18+" years old
I'm all for Tombstone getting more love but that story was the wrong way to do it
Amazing Spider-Man can only recover once Nick Lowe is no longer editor, he's doing more damage than any writer could
I think the damage has been done already and there is no redeeming to be made anymore ever since OMD at the latest. Spider-Man really needs a full on reboot but with writers who actually get the character and perhaps know a thing about the original Ditko/Romita/Lee run. That or just put the comics to rest.
>Spider-Man really needs a full on reboot
We aren't going full moron like DC. Reboots always go badly.
Then kill of the franchise. These two options are better than puppetting the corpse of a character who has been ruined time and time again
>These two options are better than puppetting the corpse of a character who has been ruined time and time again
only for the fans the soulless corporation makes more money this way
>wanting to end all spiderman comics
Can we end Batman too? He's WAY worse at this point.
I know Peter doesn't remember the Mephisto deal. but I still don't know why there hasn't been a storyline of him and the other spiders going to hell and kicking the shit out of him, hell other characters like Gwenpool have done it so why not?
>other spiders
Man frick the other spiders or ship them off to their own universes. They add nothing except coomer material when it comes to gwen and silk
>but I still don't know why there hasn't been a storyline of him and the other spiders going to hell and kicking the shit out of him
Not only that would cheapen a very personal journey, the "spiders", as in the cosplaying clowns shoved in our faces, have absolutely nothing to do with Peter. The ones that do, his brothers, are memory holed and ruined respectively.
Morlun is permanently Slott's b***h, BUT he gets less misery screen time.
The only good alternative Spider-Men are Noir, 2099 and Ultimate.
Noir sucks, and I'm gonna assume you began to like Miguel from his modern books going by Ultimate being there, so I must ask you: How?
Then who's the babby Hobogoblo was holding in that page JRJR let slip?
I like those three because of Shattered dimensions.
>cosplaying clowns shoved in our faces
I'd rather call them Barbie toys because there nothing more to them
I’d read a book about Peter and Ben trying to fight Mephisto
There's a trained stock of comic buyers who make their purchases entirely on reaction to familiar stimuli. Superman turns evil, Spider-man is shit on, Mutants and Avengers fight, Batman teeters on the edge of going too far, etc. etc.
Sales barely matter anymore. Why fight it? Stop expecting good stories from people who dont bother to try for them.
Got to have my Batman.
Marvel draws MJ more and more like a cheap prostitute still that's no suprise since she was a prostitute from the start.
I get it your mom was a hooker and sold you as a baby to make ends meat . How was it. How was it being as a part of Americans failed foster system
There is no escape from Gwen she will always be there to haunt Peter for all time.
The only prostitute is MJ
So does Peter pass judgment for Gwen dying and Peter working for Norman?
Stories need conflict. In his original.series he gets buried under a pile of rubble, how.is that any different?
I remember him being beaten by black tarantula in the 90s.
It's ironic that Marvel is trying to make Peter relatable to lower class Americans. It has been shown they're less likely to get married and Americans have been less likely to marry in general. The fans buying these comics are rich collectors so they won't find it relatable. Marvel elites it's buyers.
marvel collectors are not reading comics anymore. They gonna die soon though and marvel and dc will crash hard
>marvel collectors are not reading comics anymore. They gonna die soon though and marvel and dc will crash hard
Yes I think you are right I think they wil both die soon, seriously it does seem rather silly that Mutans now have the power to revive the dead such a concept wil surely doom Marvel. Still there is nothing to be done about but simply accept it the bright side is that OG Captain Marvel will be brought back along with many others, cheer up mate they are worse ideas for comics you know.
Why hate when they're clueless and have no idea what they're doing?
Psssst, gwenschizo
I will hate editorial until otto and norman are gay
What woke you up from your ten-thousand-year slumber, janny?
Which volume is the second panel
I don't really care about Spider-Man nowadays but I remember seeing an Evil Gwen Stacy with purple clothing and some weird scorpion tentacles a while ago. She looked pretty hot.
sounds hot, but can't remember it
>old good new bad
Why are Spider-Man fans like this?
>old good new bad mindset
Why are simpleton like this?
So does gwebbcglocklover997 fail Peter for being a pissy ass b***h this week or not
It's so weird how Marvel makes a big deal about Gwen Stacy but she's never anything more than Peter's dead girlfriend that gives him guilt. So that explains her being brought up to make Peter feel bad but what about the mass of covers and stories about her while she was alive? Do they sell? I guess they do.
>d
They didn't even the release of her full mini which was 10 us dol hairs undersold
her covers sell, comics about her perform terribly. Basically blame old fart collectors as usual
Then what does Gwen do in this issue ASM 10 besides be non existent
Oh I am sure they will figure something to do with Gwen once she gets revived by mutants they have had years to come up with stories about her.
Keep dreaming Jamal Hussain
Why the frick would they hold back not bring her back? the line between life and death has been crossed over by mutans they are no more rules left anymore and morals do not exist for mutants after all. In the past certain they were certain rules and some lines never should have been crossed by all rights, but that time is over at least for DC and Marvel it is go blame the Marvel editoral and capeshit writers for this shit it's over mutants will rule over humanity eventually and there is nothing to be done about it they will be are gods.
There's no reason to your racist butthole. Why you have to be a sexist about this too, You are the worst person imaginable infringing on womans rights
>There's no reason to your racist butthole. Why you have to be a sexist about this too, You are the worst person imaginable infringing on womans rights
Calm down the people who will brought back by mutants will remain human after all but there is no escaping it now, besides DC showed that they don't give a shit about death that's why all those reboots happened and now Marvel is going in the same direction, it was bound to happen sooner or later you know. Did you really think Marvel would never cross the line sooner or late? if so then you are truly are a fool for thinking thay way anon.
Why is Wells writtingf Peter as a weak rookie and has to be saved women against Morlun it's like tjey want him to be replaced
The more attention you give him, the more he will seek.
yeah cause he's a white supremist
I like Morlun.
Isn't he for some reason going full on villain to a good guy now? Thats just weak af. he needs to go back to eating eye again what a pushover
Last time I saw Morlun it was when he killed Spider-Man Noir,so I don't know what you're talking about.
He was in Sinistrer Wars living in the sewers as a b***h
Who has it worse, Peter or Morlun?
He was fine at the beginning of JMS' run, but he should've died for good there.
Dude worked as a force of nature that needed to be killed. Now he is back every couple of years just for spiderverse bullshit
we've been over this before
>Gwen comes back
>Norman fricks her for real this time, gets her pregnant and makes an honest woman out of her
>throws her off a bridge after he has his kids back
it's all there, stop denying the truth
Too late that since we all know Norman fricked MJ in reality I suspect those kids we saw in the current ASM belong to him, Paul is nothing but a smoke screen character hired by him.
>t.gwenschizoid headcanon
And I thought marykekprostitute was delusional until I found this post
I am Sure Paul And Norman will have a real good time with MJ body, she has always dreamed about experiencing the DP and thanks to them that dream will come soon true.
I hate Queseda the msot, so I guess editors.
Looks l.ike Lowe was lying that this was a sad story this week and we find out what Peter did and Paul is the new hobgonlin Paul Kingsley
Pauly Kingsly
They can't even give ned his 15 min of fame back and even after he gave Betty a fake baby
Sex with Norman Osborn.
>0
Mysterio you sly dog
Sex with Gwen Stacy (but evil)
Hot, steamy threesome with Gwen and Norman!
(Married) Sex is evil. Good people can't have it. We've reclaimed it.
This is why I hate editorial.
Peter/Norman is the superior ship.
>Norma.
Stan Lee says Peter can't be gay by contractual obligation.
But where is Stan Lee now?
alive and well
Sigh.
I have no hate. Only disappointment and apathy.
bumping because I refuse to let this thread die when a Milesthread is alive
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